Happy N7 day 2022! Two years late, an analysis of the Mudskipper teaser image

I’m not sure we can say that conclusively though can we?

It says that destroy will eliminate all synthetic life. Even to the point of threatening Shepard due to them being partially synthetic themselves, yet you can have Shepard survive. Equally, although EDI and the Geth in the Sol system seem to cop it, there’s nothing that confirms that this wipes out ALL the Geth, or any other synthetic life. I’m not entirely sure how that would even be possible, particularly for life living beyond the immediacy of a mass relay.

It clearly doesn’t want you to pick the destroy option. I would guess that the effectiveness of the crucible in being able to wipe out all synthetic life was overplayed to that end.

Thing wanted the organic to choose the green. Look how much butter it used to convince the dumba** to choose it, if chosen. It's something that cannot be forced. Wrong dumb dumb. Shepard is forcing it if chosen.

Ah yes the wave of goodness being spread out all over the galaxy. If ems is low enough, the red wave scorches the Earth yet the unknown planet the SR2 is on looks pristine.

The fact that what is shown in blue or green doesn't mean crap. If the geth are destroyed in the red, why not show a few of the platforms falling over like the player sees in the geth fighter mission?

BioWare presumably retconned the apperance of the Protheans (if you have the opinion that the statues on Ilos represented them), to align Javik's apperance with the Collectors.

With this in mind it wouldn't surprise me if BioWare did further retcons/didn't align with lore expectations because of reasons.

Also for the sake of consistent narrative I would have preferred if Drew Karpyshyn remained the lead writer for the entire series. But I'm happy that he found pleasure in other ventures, like The Chaos Born Trilogy and Archetype Entertainment.

And there will inevitably be gaps - the Alpha relay is gone. The Mu relay is lost. Do the deactivated relays pass the signal? Non-gravitationally locked relays will have moved over time. I think the idea of total blanket coverage for the signal is optimistic tbh.



Agree. Although I wouldn’t call the solutions worthless. Destroying 95% of the Reaper fleet, or gaining control over 95% of it would be a much better option that trying to stop 100% of it.



The bulk of them probably were gone, but I doubt all of them, and if any survived then the Geth could and almost certainly would rebuild.



I’m sure some of the Geth at least would have been out of the Galaxy. We know they had an interest in dark space, and the Heleus Cluster. They could well have had expeditions or a Geth-type Ark heading out at the time.

That's a good point! I'm mainly bummed they changed the design because I adore Lovecraftian things. No hate against my bro Javik, though. I got to see some tentacles with the Adjutant enemies at least, which likely took inspiration from the Inusannon design.

I actually like the Collectors' design if I ignore the retcon part, I think their locust aesthetic fit them. But man seeing the Harbinger avatar as some bloated malformed Cthulhu beast would have been so cool!

Also the Protheans having a kinda insectile design is amusing to me when you consider Javik's line: "The lizard people evolved? They used to eat flies."

The Protheans evolved? They used to BE flies.

Just going to mention here that in the course of travelling around collecting resources, I obtained something that allowed me to target only Reaper tech. Unfortunately, the Geth only survive if you let Legion upload a Reaper program to the collective, which is why they are toast. It always bugged me that I was forced to do this, particularly as I had just completed the mission where I cleansed the Geth of Reaper programming, so it made no sense to me why I would agree to this. Clearly, it was the writers wanting to create a situation where it was impossible to destroy the Reapers and save the Geth.

Likewise, EDI originally came about through Reaper tech. However, she had already said she was happy to die in order to destroy the "vile" Reapers, so I felt I had her agreement that I should proceed with Destroy.

Bottom line is, the Geth and EDI had Reaper tech, so the Starkid was quite correct in saying that destroying the Reapers would also destroy them. However, if there were other AIs that did not have Reaper tech, including Geth not linked up to the main hive, then they would survive.

I seem to recall that years ago someone suggested that we might have a back-up version of EDI somewhere that could be re-installed at least into the Normandy, even if the EDI body no longer worked.

I've always wondered why so many people seem to be so fond of Legion, and of Geth by extension? I always found him to be the least interesting character and barely considered him a character, more like a representative of a weird synthetic race that humans can never truly understand. A great character for a scifi story for sure but not one I would want to keep "alive" no matter what. And choosing the fate of the entire galaxy based on how it will affect your loved ones (about a dozen people out of billions) and some individual, SYNTHETIC race is... abhorrent.

This is something I would like. BW's decisions here imply that being individual is "better". But why? What's wrong with a consensus? Why is it any more or less worthy of existing? I like the idea that they're different from beings that are individual. Gives them more of an alien quality that otherwise does not exist in this game.

A synthetic race is interesting, hence the idea of sacrificing them for the sake of billions of others makes me pause. So that makes it ok to not make that choice? Each to their own indeed. I said nothing about not hesitating but making that damn choice. 

Maybe I misunderstood. There are three potential choices and, for me, morality demands that I can't sacrifice an entire race in order to "defeat" the Reapers, especially when there are alternatives (lesser of three evils?). I got the impression that you were saying it would be abhorrent to take that into consideration when choosing the fate of the galaxy? Why should you be disgusted that someone wanted to make a choice to save the galaxy that didn't involve destroying an entire race?

All three of the choices are morally ambiguous. I don't think there's meant to be a right answer.