Unreal Engine 4 or 5?

www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/mass-effect-4-will-apparently-use-unreal-engine-5-3121715

This is really old news. Not sticking with Frostbite, using UE and probably 5 but I don't have any news for confirmation of 4/5.

Terrible news. Their Frostbite games were better in every way, shape, and form.

It is assumptions at this time, BioWare hasn't made an official statement about the engine they are using for the next Mass Effect, but they have stated the Dragon Age: Dreadwolf will be on Frostbite. They have looked for people with Unreal experience and said they aren't ruling anything out, but no confirmation one way or the other.

Personal view is that I don't care what engine that is used for I think there are going to be problems with using either one.  What I hope for is that whatever they are doing keeps costs lower so sales expectations aren't so high that it is impossible to sell enough to keep making more games in the IP.

Yeah, pretty much. However, some engines are purpose built while others are made to be "general".


Uh, ok?

I am also an unhappy person, but finding your daily dose of ragebait here isn't good for you or anyone else.

So I remember about a decade ago people were talking about the advantages Western game developers had over Japanese game developers, and a core advantage that was cited for the Western game developers was that they didn't have to spend time building an engine. They could license an engine from a company that pours all its time into doing only that and that engine would work and they can just get on with their day. Obviously there are examples where an in house engine is wonderful but when you have an alternative that you can just use out of the box and it works fine for what it does, I have no idea why Bioware went through such pains through Inquisition and Andromeda when Unreal was sitting right there the whole timmmmmmmmme.

If like Cyberstrike said you can't tell the difference between Frostbite and Unreal, then I don't see why they spent years fiddling with Frostbite trying to get it to work for RPGs :S

Me? I don't care if its Frostbite, UE4, UE5, heck it can be UE1 I'm not tired of waiting for the next game, I'm getting too old waiting for the next game

"No matter how many people were involved, one thing about Frostbite would always remain consistent, as it did on Dragon Age: Inquisition and Mass Effect: Andromeda: It made everything take longer than anyone thought it should. “We’re trying to make this huge procedural world but we’re constantly fighting Frostbite because that’s not what it’s designed to do,” said one developer. “Things like baking the lighting can take 24 hours. If we’re making changes to a level, we have to go through another bake process. It’s a very complex process.”

kotaku.com/how-biowares-anthem-went-wrong-1833731964

While Bioware had problems with Andromeda, Inquisition, and Anthem, the use of Frostbite made every problem bigger due to the time it took to do everything. As I said above a core reason why Western Devs have a big advantage is they don't have to spend the time developing an internal engine while also building the game. It's fine if you're your own publisher like Bethesda, you can set your own time limits, but if you have a publisher breathing down your neck to release your game in certain windows, trying to develop and engine at the same time as developing your game is a major problem. Bioware's "magic" used to be to crunch your way to release and believe eveything will work out at the last minute. Frostbite's nature of making everything take longer actively works against this "magic", there is no last minute rush to success when everything takes a god awful amount of time.

Which version of UnReal engine will be the cats ass in, oh, say about 5 years?

By the time next ME arrives its gonna be on UE8

All I want/hope is that

• this time there is actual proper tool support for the devs from whomever makes the game engine
• the game engine and toolset is a known commodity for a majority of devs
• the major toolset bugs are already ironed out as well as their core functions are fully available

"One of its major features is Nanite, an engine that allows for high-detailed photographic source material to be imported into games.[116] The Nanite virtualized geometry technology allows Epic to take advantage of its past acquisition of Quixel, the world's largest photogrammetry library as of 2019. The goal of Unreal Engine 5 was to make it as easy as possible for developers to create detailed game worlds without having to spend excessive time on creating new detailed assets"