Evanuris, Spirits and the Elves:Random Thoughts and Theories
Sept 2, 2016 19:09:27 GMT
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 2, 2016 19:09:27 GMT
The ones that were banished by the Evanuris were the FORBIDDEN ONES. They refer to them as Xebenkeck and her ilk. We have already met three of them in game, Gaxkang in DAO; Xebenkeck in DA2 and Imshael in DAI. That just leave the Formless One, if the old codex about them is correct and there were just four. We know the three we have met are definitely just powerful demons, although as the Evanuris suggest, they are capable of holding form when let lose in the physical world, as evidenced by Imshael. The old codex in DA2 (I think) also suggested that it was these four that taught blood magic to humans. Yet that is also attributed to the Old Gods. Clearly these three that we have met are not the equivalent of Old Gods, so I think it more likely that blood magic was taught at an earlier date and the Forbidden Ones just reminded people of it.
Geldauran, Daern'thal and Anaris are the only names we have been given for the FORGOTTEN ONES. They could be from the same group as the Forbidden Ones, hence Geldauran saying that though he had been forgotten, once the Evnauris were consumed by their pride (Solas?), he would usurp their place. Adding the Forgotton Ones to the Forbidden Ones would certainly give 7 "gods", just as we have 7 Old Gods but there hasn't really been any suggestion up to now that the Forbidden Ones are anything but demons, so I sort of rule that one out.
The other thing to consider is the possibility that the dragons that arise as archdemons are not the earthly manifestation of the Old Gods that spoke to the Tevinter mages from the Fade. That priest was said to have recognised the first archdemon but he could never have met him before in the flesh, so was only going by pictures. PW definitely confirmed that many of the ruins of the elves were repurposed by the early humans and all images that looked like elves were altered. The Neromenians also revered dragons. So they could have found pictures of dragons being worshipped, which were actually either the shapeshifted forms or split soul of the Evanuris. If the priests then said to Dumat (Geldauran), etc, are these pictures of you? The response would have been, yes, because the Forgotten Ones' aim was to get revenge on the Evanuris and ultimately find and infect their dragon forms. Once this had been achieved, Dumat stopped speaking because Geldauran had achieved his aims, but everyone else thought it was because Dumat had been infected with the Blight and then slain.
Whatever the case, the dragons that rise as archdemons are connected to the ancient elves in some way because Solas knows about them and likely who they are. I doubt he would have that amount of interest or concern in simply corrupted dragons.
Geldauran, Daern'thal and Anaris are the only names we have been given for the FORGOTTEN ONES. They could be from the same group as the Forbidden Ones, hence Geldauran saying that though he had been forgotten, once the Evnauris were consumed by their pride (Solas?), he would usurp their place. Adding the Forgotton Ones to the Forbidden Ones would certainly give 7 "gods", just as we have 7 Old Gods but there hasn't really been any suggestion up to now that the Forbidden Ones are anything but demons, so I sort of rule that one out.
The other thing to consider is the possibility that the dragons that arise as archdemons are not the earthly manifestation of the Old Gods that spoke to the Tevinter mages from the Fade. That priest was said to have recognised the first archdemon but he could never have met him before in the flesh, so was only going by pictures. PW definitely confirmed that many of the ruins of the elves were repurposed by the early humans and all images that looked like elves were altered. The Neromenians also revered dragons. So they could have found pictures of dragons being worshipped, which were actually either the shapeshifted forms or split soul of the Evanuris. If the priests then said to Dumat (Geldauran), etc, are these pictures of you? The response would have been, yes, because the Forgotten Ones' aim was to get revenge on the Evanuris and ultimately find and infect their dragon forms. Once this had been achieved, Dumat stopped speaking because Geldauran had achieved his aims, but everyone else thought it was because Dumat had been infected with the Blight and then slain.
Whatever the case, the dragons that rise as archdemons are connected to the ancient elves in some way because Solas knows about them and likely who they are. I doubt he would have that amount of interest or concern in simply corrupted dragons.
