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Post by Ravenfeeder on May 16, 2024 22:06:09 GMT
I really liked the way pause worked in Greedfall, though it was the first pc game ever where I gave up on kb/m and plugged in a controller. I've never managed to learn to use a controller, so it's always kb/m for me. That Witcher 2 boss was a pita ... Those Quick Time Events really messed me up. After uncountable tries I got lucky and finally beat Kayran. Never got past that. I'd button mashed that far, but wasn't enjoying it, then I got to that and couldn't get past something obviously designed for controllers not kb/m.
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Post by githcheater on May 17, 2024 0:29:24 GMT
I really liked the way pause worked in Greedfall, though it was the first pc game ever where I gave up on kb/m and plugged in a controller. I've never managed to learn to use a controller, so it's always kb/m for me. That Witcher 2 boss was a pita ... Those Quick Time Events really messed me up. After uncountable tries I got lucky and finally beat Kayran. Never got past that. I'd button mashed that far, but wasn't enjoying it, then I got to that and couldn't get past something obviously designed for controllers not kb/m. I was exclusively using kb/m back in late 2013 and somehow got through Witcher 2 on Easy mode. In 2017, I was "forced" to buy a controller because the kb/m controls for the FFX remaster were atrocious. The 2D maps were diagonally oriented and I was forced to walk in a zig-zag fashion using the wasd keys, because the map could not be rotated with a mouse. Because I cannot use kb/m without constantly peeking at the keyboard to locate the appropriate keys, I now use a controller for action games, and can now concentrate on the screen without searching for the correct button because the controller becomes reflexive. I still use KB&M for Pause & Play or turn based games. Later I did try DAMP with a keyboard, but I was totally lost and ineffective. The controller improved me to "slightly incompetent" so I could enjoy DAMP with my coworker for several years.
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Post by mrobnoxiousuk on May 19, 2024 0:14:56 GMT
My expectation is for it to have the Dark fantasy feel of the original Dragon age origins without the tedium that was the deep roads and fade while also having good visuals and haunting soundtrack.
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Post by Hrungr on May 19, 2024 4:02:37 GMT
1) Will you be judging the final product of Dragon Age Dreadwolf against the time that specific version of the game has had for development? Or the entirety of the time between the release of Trespasser and the release of Dreadwolf?And 2) Assuming Dreadwolf is the most action oriented entry in the series, is that automatically "points deducted"? 1. Given the tumultuous development on this one - reboots, creative director/game director shuffles, staff cuts, etc, I've been keeping my expectations in check. That said, the recent rumors from Jeff Grubb of BW being quite happy with the game is definitely a good sign. We all want them to knock it out of the park. 2. The move to being a more Action-Oriented game is not a detriment (for me). I'm just hoping it'll be as fun and polished as AC Odyssey/Valhalla & GoW. Companion AI (which they're going to have to rely on more) will be the real test.
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Post by Beerfish on May 21, 2024 0:02:47 GMT
I'm worried about a few potential aspects of this game. (Which I can't get into for political type reasons).
They are going to have to be absolute wizards in how they handle the whole solus thing. I greatly dislike knowing the antagonist too early in games. I fear a Saren or T.I.M. like thing where you battle tooth and nail against his machinations all game and at the last second you sweet talk him into changing his mind.
The games just has to be a usual good bioware game with really good companions.
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Post by colfoley on May 21, 2024 0:30:29 GMT
I'm worried about a few potential aspects of this game. (Which I can't get into for political type reasons). They are going to have to be absolute wizards in how they handle the whole solus thing. I greatly dislike knowing the antagonist too early in games. I fear a Saren or T.I.M. like thing where you battle tooth and nail against his machinations all game and at the last second you sweet talk him into changing his mind. The games just has to be a usual good bioware game with really good companions. I think there is some chance of that, though at the end to I thought they did OK with the Saren aspect on that but not so much on the TIM aspect. Like us talking them down resulted in each one committing suicide so it wasn't that huge of a thing and the thing about TIM though I felt like it was just a copy cat of the Saren stuff, amongst other issues. Now this A. does not really gurantee they'll do this well and B. TIM also really wasn't the main bad guy in ME 3 either...though he kinda was. But I do suspect we are goign to have a loaded bad guy plate at times more then just Solas. If they do good writing then the game should resolve around Solas, where pretty much all of the bad guys also have some connection to him, either hunting him down or what not, especially given the title...but the Qunari promise to be their own force seperate in the game and we also have whoever 'the voice' belongs to as a potential big antagonist. Which despite the title the curious thing is just how much they balance those aspects of the game out, given the title, but also having these other antagonistic forces/ factions/ characters. My point is though that its possible the game will be helped in this regard by offering more for us to chew on then just Solas which may then give them room to manuver in writing Solas's charcter with some nuance.
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Post by our_lady_of_darkness on May 22, 2024 5:17:07 GMT
1) Will you be judging the final product of Dragon Age Dreadwolf against the time that specific version of the game has had for development? Or the entirety of the time between the release of Trespasser and the release of Dreadwolf?And 2) Assuming Dreadwolf is the most action oriented entry in the series, is that automatically "points deducted"? For context, before he departed from BioWare, Mark Darrah was responding to a post from someone about hoping Dragon Age returned to its 'tactical gameplay' roots, and he said that it was unlikely, and if anything they'd probably "skew further in the opposite direction" i.e. towards more action oriented gameplay, like The Witcher, or God of War. 1) Considering all the internal perturbations Bioware went through I think it's only fair to judge the game on the basis of its current timeline, as disappointed I am for having to wait 10 years. 2) No, not at all. My first time playing DAO many years go was a bit painful because the tactical combat was so challenging for me. But in my case narrative is more significant than gameplay - as ancient as I am, I even took time to learn D&D rules just to play BG3, because I got invested in the story. In short, no prejudice on my part in any case.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on May 22, 2024 8:36:32 GMT
1) Will you be judging the final product of Dragon Age Dreadwolf against the time that specific version of the game has had for development? Or the entirety of the time between the release of Trespasser and the release of Dreadwolf?
- Neither. No reason to. At all.
2) Assuming Dreadwolf is the most action oriented entry in the series, is that automatically "points deducted"?
- No. The ones waiting for it to be a Origins kind of turns-to-play game are going to have a bad time, as the time marches forward, not stayting still. As long as it is not a crap fighting like in Witcher 3 or the Elden../whatever those dying simulators are.
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Post by FiendishlyInventive on May 28, 2024 17:16:50 GMT
So you don't want it to be like a good action videogame and you don't want it to be like a good RPG videogame
Just more Bioware mediocrity we have got over the last decade plus.
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Post by 10k on May 31, 2024 0:29:15 GMT
1. For me Development time doesn't matter, as long as the game is good. So I won't be judging the game on the development time at all, but rather the content it offers.
2. Like my first answer, this doesn't matter to me. I will judge the game based on how enjoyable the content is. Though I won't lie and say I'll miss how it was. I generally hate pause and play, or I guess RTS with pause. I enjoy turn-based games more.
I am more worried about how this game will actually present itself. Will BW go back to the serious tones of DAO or will they stick with the flippant presentation of Inquisition. That's really the deal breaker for me. I want a game like Origins not Inquisition.
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Post by colfoley on May 31, 2024 1:08:05 GMT
1. For me Development time doesn't matter, as long as the game is good. So I won't be judging the game on the development time at all, but rather the content it offers. 2. Like my first answer, this doesn't matter to me. I will judge the game based on how enjoyable the content is. Though I won't lie and say I'll miss how it was. I generally hate pause and play, or I guess RTS with pause. I enjoy turn-based games more. I am more worried about how this game will actually present itself. Will BW go back to the serious tones of DAO or will they stick with the flippant presentation of Inquisition. That's really the deal breaker for me. I want a game like Origins not Inquisition. Where was Inquisition flippant? I mean keep in mind to that Origins did have a scene where you had multiple party members pretend to be a traveling clown trope and Inquisition also had several scenes of body horror involving red lyrium. I didn't find the tones that different.
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Post by 10k on May 31, 2024 5:03:25 GMT
Where was Inquisition flippant? I mean keep in mind to that Origins did have a scene where you had multiple party members pretend to be a traveling clown trope and Inquisition also had several scenes of body horror involving red lyrium. I didn't find the tones that different. Well that's just down to a difference of opinion, that I've argued many times over. I personally find Origins has a much darker tone and touched on subject matter that wouldn't be acceptable to depict in today's media that helped pull together the theme, which Inquisition wouldn't dare touch on. Characters like Logan were more complexed in pursuit of their goals, than corypheus who was just the standard big bad who was thwarted at every turn. Yes, the companions in Origins have their silly moments, and that's okay, but they were all complexed as well. Whereas Inquisition only had Dorian, who had multiple layers which made him feel like a real person. Everyone else just felt sanitized or were just carry overs from the previous game. Origins overall story was about struggle and sacrifice, which I thoroughly enjoyed. Though like I said this is all a matter of opinion. You probably disagree, and enjoyed Inquisition more, and that's fine.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 31, 2024 5:53:31 GMT
Where was Inquisition flippant? I mean keep in mind to that Origins did have a scene where you had multiple party members pretend to be a traveling clown trope and Inquisition also had several scenes of body horror involving red lyrium. I didn't find the tones that different. Well that's just down to a difference of opinion, that I've argued many times over. I personally find Origins has a much darker tone and touched on subject matter that wouldn't be acceptable to depict in today's media that helped pull together the theme, which Inquisition wouldn't dare touch on. Characters like Logan were more complexed in pursuit of their goals, than corypheus who was just the standard big bad who was thwarted at every turn. Yes, the companions in Origins have their silly moments, and that's okay, but they were all complexed as well. Whereas Inquisition only had Dorian, who had multiple layers which made him feel like a real person. Everyone else just felt sanitized or were just carry overs from the previous game. Origins overall story was about struggle and sacrifice, which I thoroughly enjoyed. Though like I said this is all a matter of opinion. You probably disagree, and enjoyed Inquisition more, and that's fine. There are things here you said that aren’t a matter of opinion but just objectively wrong. Most of the DAI cast had multiple layers that made them feel like real people, while in comparison Origins had a few that were just tropes. And I’d argue the Origins equivalent to Corypheus is the Archdemon, which is obvious less complex, while characters like Calpernia or Samson are more akin to Loghain and are equal.
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Post by colfoley on May 31, 2024 7:23:59 GMT
Where was Inquisition flippant? I mean keep in mind to that Origins did have a scene where you had multiple party members pretend to be a traveling clown trope and Inquisition also had several scenes of body horror involving red lyrium. I didn't find the tones that different. Well that's just down to a difference of opinion, that I've argued many times over. I personally find Origins has a much darker tone and touched on subject matter that wouldn't be acceptable to depict in today's media that helped pull together the theme, which Inquisition wouldn't dare touch on. Characters like Logan were more complexed in pursuit of their goals, than corypheus who was just the standard big bad who was thwarted at every turn. Yes, the companions in Origins have their silly moments, and that's okay, but they were all complexed as well. Whereas Inquisition only had Dorian, who had multiple layers which made him feel like a real person. Everyone else just felt sanitized or were just carry overs from the previous game. Origins overall story was about struggle and sacrifice, which I thoroughly enjoyed. Though like I said this is all a matter of opinion. You probably disagree, and enjoyed Inquisition more, and that's fine. My main focus and what I narrowed in on was the usage of the term 'flippant'. For me flippant is a specific brand of...I just figured it out...kind of an apathetic, rejecting authority, brand of sarcasm. If we stretch the definition enough I only really think that DA 2 and MEA could probably even come close to having flippant tones that BioWare has ever done. And while it is certainly true that Origins was the overall darker in its overall presentation still think Inquisition touched on a lot of the same subject matter and even in the same way, expanding on what Origins started. Sure certain gratutious scenes were cut and the presentation is different but that really does not really effet something's overall tone per se, imo.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on May 31, 2024 7:40:59 GMT
There are things here you said that aren’t a matter of opinion but just objectively wrong. Most of the DAI cast had multiple layers that made them feel like real people, while in comparison Origins had a few that were just tropes. And I’d argue the Origins equivalent to Corypheus is the Archdemon, which is obvious less complex, while characters like Calpernia or Samson are more akin to Loghain and are equal. It is funny that this same thing repeats on many games and gamers, who have thought the first instance of series was the best ever and nothing can top it, never want to acknowledge the new/latest does something so much better. Oh well.
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Post by colfoley on May 31, 2024 7:47:09 GMT
There are things here you said that aren’t a matter of opinion but just objectively wrong. Most of the DAI cast had multiple layers that made them feel like real people, while in comparison Origins had a few that were just tropes. And I’d argue the Origins equivalent to Corypheus is the Archdemon, which is obvious less complex, while characters like Calpernia or Samson are more akin to Loghain and are equal. It is funny that this same thing repeats on many games and gamers, who have thought the first instance of series was the best ever and nothing can top it, never want to acknowledge the new/latest does something so much better. Oh well. For me I find a lot of time the second instalment of the series tends to be the best. At least in the case of BioShock, and ME. With God of War and Horizon, of which I am playing right now but the early results are good, it also kind of counts...also just realized the GoW is a game in a long running story but still full brand new storyline so I suppose it counts...regardless though both those game series second chapters were the best. Hmm think I liked Uncharted 2 the best of the 3 as well...maybe. Only real exception to this rule so far is Dragon Age, Inquisition is my favorite and the series has, imo, gotten better with each game, but Origins still has a lot to recommend it.
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Post by githcheater on May 31, 2024 18:40:02 GMT
There are things here you said that aren’t a matter of opinion but just objectively wrong. Most of the DAI cast had multiple layers that made them feel like real people, while in comparison Origins had a few that were just tropes. And I’d argue the Origins equivalent to Corypheus is the Archdemon, which is obvious less complex, while characters like Calpernia or Samson are more akin to Loghain and are equal. It is funny that this same thing repeats on many games and gamers, who have thought the first instance of series was the best ever and nothing can top it, never want to acknowledge the new/latest does something so much better. Oh well. Oh really? Do you have any other RPG examples other than Dragon Age? Each version of Baldur's Gate got better. Elder Scrolls got better. Witcher got better with each version. The 2nd version of Neverwinter Nights was better. Pathfinder improved as well. The 2nd version of Mass Effect was better. Divinity Original Sin got better. Final Fantasy got better.
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Post by colfoley on May 31, 2024 19:10:18 GMT
It is funny that this same thing repeats on many games and gamers, who have thought the first instance of series was the best ever and nothing can top it, never want to acknowledge the new/latest does something so much better. Oh well. Oh really? Do you have any other RPG examples other than Dragon Age? Each version of Baldur's Gate got better. Elder Scrolls got better. Witcher got better with each version. The 2nd version of Neverwinter Nights was better. Pathfinder improved as well. The 2nd version of Mass Effect was better. Divinity Original Sin got better. Final Fantasy got better. a lot of people do like the first ME the best and tend to have the same views and lament how the series fell from its roots.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on May 31, 2024 19:32:04 GMT
It is funny that this same thing repeats on many games and gamers, who have thought the first instance of series was the best ever and nothing can top it, never want to acknowledge the new/latest does something so much better. Oh well. Each version of Baldur's Gate got better. Elder Scrolls got better. Witcher got better with each version. The 2nd version of Neverwinter Nights was better. Pathfinder improved as well. The 2nd version of Mass Effect was better. Divinity Original Sin got better. Final Fantasy got better. Sure it is a generalization and an edgy one, but I also think I have old friends lol. My friends swear for BG1. Not even EE. I have no idea. I liked W2 best, could not continue past 10-20 hours on W3 being just tedious. I have no idea. I have no idea. Mass Effect 1 was best of the trilogy, so much I do not even play 2 or 3 anymore. Yeah I am one of those. I have no idea. Depends... a lot. So I guess the opinions differ etc. I also think MEA did almost everything much better etc. Anyway, sorry for driveby. Try not to do those.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on May 31, 2024 19:35:36 GMT
It is funny that this same thing repeats on many games and gamers, who have thought the first instance of series was the best ever and nothing can top it, never want to acknowledge the new/latest does something so much better. Oh well. For me I find a lot of time the second instalment of the series tends to be the best. At least in the case of BioShock, and ME. With God of War and Horizon, of which I am playing right now but the early results are good, it also kind of counts...also just realized the GoW is a game in a long running story but still full brand new storyline so I suppose it counts...regardless though both those game series second chapters were the best. Hmm think I liked Uncharted 2 the best of the 3 as well...maybe. Only real exception to this rule so far is Dragon Age, Inquisition is my favorite and the series has, imo, gotten better with each game, but Origins still has a lot to recommend it. Yeah I guess a lot of time it comes to "Hey I really liked the first one, but the second one was too alien/did something much differently" which happened for me with ME2. Some Fallout fans think Fallout 2 changed the map too much etc. I did like Bioshock 1 more too though but I liked the latest the best, though the DLC's did not work much for me. Some are really fanatic about Kotor 1 too...
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Post by Cyberstrike on May 31, 2024 21:35:18 GMT
I have no expectations for it too either greatest game of all of time, the worst POS in gaming history, or even somewhere in between and because I don't slavish follow every single hiring, firing, rumor, and theory about any game. So, I have zero expectations about what to expect to from it. This keeps me safe from over hype which IMHO is what destroys most games (and media in general), this also allows me if I like/love the game to enjoy the game more in a way that allows me more pure joy and fun, and if it don't like/hate it then I'm able to get over my anger and disappointment and move on with my life. That is how I dealt with games that I hated like Anthem and The Witcher 2.
I don't know anything about the game that hasn't been shown in the trailers, its title, and that it's from BioWare. Just give me the release date and confirm it's a third person perspective game. That is all I need and want to know at this time.
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Post by colfoley on May 31, 2024 23:18:52 GMT
I have no expectations for it too either greatest game of all of time, the worst POS in gaming history, or even somewhere in between and because I don't slavish follow every single hiring, firing, rumor, and theory about any game. So, I have zero expectations about what to expect to from it. This keeps me safe from over hype which IMHO is what destroys most games (and media in general), this also allows me if I like/love the game to enjoy the game more in a way that allows me more pure joy and fun, and if it don't like/hate it then I'm able to get over my anger and disappointment and move on with my life. That is how I dealt with games that I hated like Anthem and The Witcher 2. I don't know anything about the game that hasn't been shown in the trailers, its title, and that it's from BioWare. Just give me the release date and confirm it's a third person perspective game. That is all I need and want to know at this time. this is the perspective I aspire towards. Hard though since when it comes to hype I'm my own worse enemy but let's hope all the ways I've been keeping it in check work for the actual game.
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Post by TheEmptyRoad on Jun 4, 2024 15:37:19 GMT
1) Will you be judging the final product of Dragon Age Dreadwolf against the time that specific version of the game has had for development? Or the entirety of the time between the release of Trespasser and the release of Dreadwolf?
Judging the time it has taken? I mean, yeah. I'm going to be even harsher than most here, because I believe that Anthem was a complete waste of time and talent that could've been better spent on Mass Effect: Andromeda and what became Dragon Age: Dread Wolf. Anthem can't even be blamed on EA, from what I can recall it was BioWare themselves chasing trends (again).
Also, I'll be judging based on the time it's taken in a different way than what this question asks.
In the 10 years since DAI released my life situation, tastes, and expectations have changed dramatically. If this game had released in 2018 or even 2020 I might have bought it Day 1. Now? If the reviews are decent (by which I mean they reveal that the story isn't utter dogshit and the game is decently playable and relatively bug-free) and it's same price or lower than Baldur's Gate 3; I'll get it a day or two after release, maybe even same-day if the review embargo lifts early enough.
If they have the audacity to charge more than BG3 and especially if they include ANY sort of monetization with anything approaching a AAA price, I'll wait for a sale and watch playthroughs on YouTube in the meantime.
After 10 years, I'm a lot less tolerant of AAA studio BS.
Also, yes, I AM going to compare this game to BG3. I don't care if people don't think that's fair, they have had 10 fucking years and BG3 has been out for almost a year now. By the earliest time DA:D might release, it will have been a year and half since it released.
2) Assuming Dreadwolf is the most action oriented entry in the series, is that automatically "points deducted"?
That will depend on what exactly 'action oriented' means. If I can only control my main character, fine, but the companion AI better be up to snuff. Ideally, I'd like a Dragon Age II-esque system. II in my opinion had the best of both worlds, Inquisition went too far. Where II trimmed out the fat and bloat from Origins' admittedly clunky system, Inquisition's options for Mages in particular were dogshit compared to the other 2.
However, all the people saying that ARPG's are the future and BioWare needs to change or update their combat system every game by taking out more and more skill trees and making it more and more action-y I will simply point out that Baldur's Gate 3, a turn-based top-down(ish) CRPG is STILL in the Top 20 most played and concurrent players on Steam almost a year after its release. There IS a market for that. One that BioWare abandoned and studios like Larian and OwlCat have taken up the banner of.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 4, 2024 21:10:44 GMT
1) Will you be judging the final product of Dragon Age Dreadwolf against the time that specific version of the game has had for development? Or the entirety of the time between the release of Trespasser and the release of Dreadwolf? Judging the time it has taken? I mean, yeah. I'm going to be even harsher than most here, because I believe that Anthem was a complete waste of time and talent that could've been better spent on Mass Effect: Andromeda and what became Dragon Age: Dread Wolf. Anthem can't even be blamed on EA, from what I can recall it was BioWare themselves chasing trends (again). Also, I'll be judging based on the time it's taken in a different way than what this question asks. In the 10 years since DAI released my life situation, tastes, and expectations have changed dramatically. If this game had released in 2018 or even 2020 I might have bought it Day 1. Now? If the reviews are decent (by which I mean they reveal that the story isn't utter dogshit and the game is decently playable and relatively bug-free) and it's same price or lower than Baldur's Gate 3; I'll get it a day or two after release, maybe even same-day if the review embargo lifts early enough. If they have the audacity to charge more than BG3 and especially if they include ANY sort of monetization with anything approaching a AAA price, I'll wait for a sale and watch playthroughs on YouTube in the meantime. After 10 years, I'm a lot less tolerant of AAA studio BS. Also, yes, I AM going to compare this game to BG3. I don't care if people don't think that's fair, they have had 10 fucking years and BG3 has been out for almost a year now. By the earliest time DA:D might release, it will have been a year and half since it released. 2) Assuming Dreadwolf is the most action oriented entry in the series, is that automatically "points deducted"? That will depend on what exactly 'action oriented' means. If I can only control my main character, fine, but the companion AI better be up to snuff. Ideally, I'd like a Dragon Age II-esque system. II in my opinion had the best of both worlds, Inquisition went too far. Where II trimmed out the fat and bloat from Origins' admittedly clunky system, Inquisition's options for Mages in particular were dogshit compared to the other 2. However, all the people saying that ARPG's are the future and BioWare needs to change or update their combat system every game by taking out more and more skill trees and making it more and more action-y I will simply point out that Baldur's Gate 3, a turn-based top-down(ish) CRPG is STILL in the Top 20 most played and concurrent players on Steam almost a year after its release. There IS a market for that. One that BioWare abandoned and studios like Larian and OwlCat have taken up the banner of. Honestly maybe we should look at BG III and the comparisons there in. Afterall I believe someone posted over in Schmooples that Jeff Gruhb mentioned that the game has been in dev for a pretty typical 4-5 years, well typical for its size. Now, I was surprised by this as my baseline has always been more in the vein of 2-3 years, but then look at the rest of the industry and big games. Look at how long its been between GTA V and VI? Between Elder Scrolls V and Elder Scrolls VI? Between Fallout IV and Fallout V? Heck look at what happened with the Witcher III and Cyberpunk? CDPR tried to release it pretty quickly, regularly, then took about 2 years to patch the game and restore their reputation. Which the other trend here is a lot of these companies have even been working on multiple games and side games during the time, GTA got a remaster, and Elder Scrolls and Fallout both got MMOs. So all this window dressing lets look at BG IIIs dev. Divinity Original Sin Released in 2017. Larian started dev on BG III after Wizard's of the Coast finally approved them doing so right around the same time. Source: link Larian started BG III in early access in September of 2020. It finally released in August of 2023. That is six years of dev time with three years of early access to have them help the community give them quality assurance checks and feed back. Anthem released in Feb of 2019. Only five years between there and now (assuming the theories are correct) will mean Dreadwolf will actually have released faster then BG III did. We'll see what the ultimate quality is but its not an accurate statement to say that the game has been in dev for ten years. Maybe a small team, off and on because they then sent them to work on Andromeda and Anthem, but not anywhere close. The Dev of the game probably began right around the 2018 Game Awards trailer which I do believe is something game companies do do from time to time...so taking that into account at most a six year dev cycle. Same as BG. Same as most of the other games I have mentioned. Game companies just seem to struggle making more then one game at a time and then, for those companies that still do it, throw in live service, post launch expansions, and a myriad of other issues...it is where we are.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 4, 2024 22:24:15 GMT
It is funny that this same thing repeats on many games and gamers, who have thought the first instance of series was the best ever and nothing can top it, never want to acknowledge the new/latest does something so much better. Oh well. For me I find a lot of time the second instalment of the series tends to be the best. At least in the case of BioShock, and ME. With God of War and Horizon, of which I am playing right now but the early results are good, it also kind of counts...also just realized the GoW is a game in a long running story but still full brand new storyline so I suppose it counts...regardless though both those game series second chapters were the best. Hmm think I liked Uncharted 2 the best of the 3 as well...maybe. Only real exception to this rule so far is Dragon Age, Inquisition is my favorite and the series has, imo, gotten better with each game, but Origins still has a lot to recommend it. Yeah that's kin do fho wI feel a swell that DA has go tbette rwit heach game all 3 games have things I lik eabout them though. I am looking forward to doing a run of the 3 games too befoere Dreadwol fcomes out. I coul dse emysel fthis winte rgetting prett ybusy doing multiple runs of the series much like when DAI came out. I can' tsay for sue rbut I'd love it if tha tdid hapen but given the fact th eend of the yea rcould be a littl eempt yfo rnew games for me a new Dragon Ag egam ecould be a good thing regardless of it's quality. At least that's kind of how I'm feeling towards it atm. Need to finis hm yactive DAI run firs tthough which I' mplanning t od oonce I' mdone wit hm ysports games that I'm currentl yplaying
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