Late to the party: I should be all over this since I graduated from uni with Japan Studies as a major but I really don't care about samurai. AT ALL. The Yasuke gameplay completely put me off the game. The slow brutality is not my cup of tea. Maybe if I ignore him completely and focus on the stuff that actually makes sense for AC, ninja assassin...
Also, there goes my chance of playing a Japanese male character. Sigh. Of course they picked the obscure black historical figure to be "cool" and earn diversity points. As if that's the only group of people need representing these days, ugh!
Granted, this is purely selfish but Asian male is the most underrepresented minority in all of Western media. And now we have a game set in friggin Japan and we still don't have one! I have a huge thing for Japanese men and this just blows on the eye candy front, not gonna lie.
I loved Odyssey because Kassandra had an amazing VA but didn't really much care for the time period nor the plot. But sure was a beautiful game. And I did like a lot of the side quests. My fav AC game is still Origins. Loved Bayek and the plot around his son. Adored the setting. So maybe I can enjoy Shadows just for the beautiful landscapes if nothing else... At some point for 10 bucks max.
Btw is Mirage that bad? I skipped Valhalla but was going to buy Mirage because I dig the setting. Then I saw the lukewarm reviews.
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Late to the party: I should be all over this since I graduated from uni with Japan Studies as a major but I really don't care about samurai. AT ALL. The Yasuke gameplay completely put me off the game. The slow brutality is not my cup of tea. Maybe if I ignore him completely and focus on the stuff that actually makes sense for AC, ninja assassin...
Also, there goes my chance of playing a Japanese male character. Sigh. Of course they picked the obscure black historical figure to be "cool" and earn diversity points. As if that's the only group of people need representing these days, ugh!
Granted, this is purely selfish but Asian male is the most underrepresented minority in all of Western media. And now we have a game set in friggin Japan and we still don't have one! I have a huge thing for Japanese men and this just blows on the eye candy front, not gonna lie.
I loved Odyssey because Kassandra had an amazing VA but didn't really much care for the time period nor the plot. But sure was a beautiful game. And I did like a lot of the side quests. My fav AC game is still Origins. Loved Bayek and the plot around his son. Adored the setting. So maybe I can enjoy Shadows just for the beautiful landscapes if nothing else... At some point for 10 bucks max.
Btw is Mirage that bad? I skipped Valhalla but was going to buy Mirage because I dig the setting. Then I saw the lukewarm reviews.
Well, the diversity thing has backfired as there is a large backlash (a 30,000+ signature petition) re the male protagonist not being Japanese and some of the history:
Well, the diversity thing has backfired as there is a large backlash (a 30,000+ signature petition) re the male protagonist not being Japanese and some of the history:
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That petition seems so dumb. It's not like they are going to scrap years of work and remake the game.
I think choosing Yasuke over a Japanese protagonist was a mistake. It's not like western entertainment media is overflowing with Asian male representation. They'll say they wanted to have an outsider's perspective for one of their protagonists, and that this was the only reason they chose Yasuke. Someone might even believe that.
In the end, it doesn't matter. Yasuke will be a cool character, well acted, etc... In this particular case, any hamfisted decision-making behind the scenes isn't going to meaningfully impact the game. Whether it's good or disappointing, it won't be because we're playing Yasuke instead of a Japanese samurai.
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Well, the diversity thing has backfired as there is a large backlash (a 30,000+ signature petition) re the male protagonist not being Japanese and some of the history:
Backfired? This looks more like a big PR win for Ubisoft. More drama, more controversy, more free spotlight.
I meant only in that if they were using the character from a Diversity perspective it has annoyed some people, so hence backfired in that regard.
I agree re that it has just generated more publicity.
My opinion is even if it was a Japanese character that would have been just as much of a controversy as well for people, so I don't think it would have any change either way. For if playing a Japanese character is so important to people there is one in the game, but I bet they are being overlooked due to gender.
I think choosing Yasuke over a Japanese protagonist was a mistake. It's not like western entertainment media is overflowing with Asian male representation. They'll say they wanted to have an outsider's perspective for one of their protagonists, and that this was the only reason they chose Yasuke. Someone might even believe that.
I would be less frustrated if it was switched and the black character was the woman. Purely out of selfish interest as a woman to see a cool and attractive Japanese male protagonist. Asian male is really the forgotten minority in Western media. Always has been. Especially in games.
If having a black protagonist is so important these days, make a game set in a region of Africa where they are native and I'll happily play that. This way I just feel robbed of a cool male Japanese protagonist.
Obviously this doesn't keep me awake at night with anger. It's just really disappointing for me on a completely superficial level. Well that and the brutal combat that goes with the Yasuke character but I can just not play him when I maybe get the game on a deep sale in 3 years.
The only thing with the protags that concerns me right now is if they turn out to be boring, ultra-serious characters, with little room for charm or humour.
The only thing with the protags that concerns me right now is if they turn out to be boring, ultra-serious characters, with little room for charm or humour.
I am thinking it might be worse than that with both of them being bland and generic outside of anything that is specific to each character, so they don't have to account for which character you are playing at that time. I am still disappointed that they didn't learn from Syndicate where a lot of the complaints I saw were based on how they handled the two protagonist aspect of the game.
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