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Post by fraggle on Sept 7, 2024 11:59:56 GMT
A nice reminder why I don't venture out into the internet so often outside of this forum (game-wise) and pay not much mind to such people Some things and people have become unbearable and I'm too old for such BS, haha. I am always happy for people to play the game how they want, and if they want a companion pair to become a thing that is all fine, but to each their own and they shouldn't bother people for making other decisions or romancing one of said companions. They don't have the right to say what I or other people are doing is the "right or wrong" way to play. Each playthrough and how people interact with companions is unique and each person's own world. Tiny rant over
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Post by MeadKnight on Sept 7, 2024 12:07:26 GMT
I mean... They are eyeing each other up quite a bit lol Seriously?! Emmrich was giving his take on the murals in the Lighthouse and had the attention of both Bellara and Lucanis. Then Lucanis makes a suggestion, which puts attention onto him, so Emmrich turns his head to look at him and would appear to react surprised he would say that. That's it. Emmrich is said to be a gentleman. That means you are courteous and give other people your full attention when they are speaking. Lucanis is an assassin where it pays to give full attention to other speakers in case you learn something to your advantage or perceive a threat. How is that supposed to be eyeing each other up romantically? I was just joking around 🥹
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Post by Syv on Sept 7, 2024 12:13:52 GMT
Someone on the internet start to pair Lucanis with Emmrich after they saw companion trailer I mean... They are eyeing each other up quite a bit lol Yeah this is why a lot of folks are already predicting a big thing between Lucanis and Emmerich. I think now this couple Emmerich / Lucanis has become a bit popular on twitter ! happened with DA2 and Anders. Now I've seen people suggesting we should steer clear of Harding and Taash for the same reason! At this rate, if everyone hooks up with someone else and that puts them off limits, Rook is really going to have a difficult time romancing anyone. To be honest. The fact that they stated so soon that Taash and Harding could have a thing without Rook, while I don't even have the game in my hands, still waiting to play it, already made it almost official and canon in my head lol. Thanksfully I'm a guy who know what he wants, and If that's the one, I won't hesitate, but yeah I could see why some folks might behave like that. I could also understand folks, with Dorian and bull. Their flirt together in the party kept coming and it was sometime err, very sexual lol. Like maybe we should leave you two alone... Personally, I'd rather the companions show their interest at the same time as Rook and it could create potential intimate conflits. I'd love that. At least it adds some interesting personal drama in the story of our protagonist and it would be like in real life. I mean, from my point of view fighting over the same girl you are attracted to between guys when you hang out, especially friends, nothing more realistic than that, It happens all the time. So I'd be okay with that, that wouldn't change anything. Even my own girlfriend, when I met her the first time, my best friend who came to join me later, showed strong interest too, trying to captivate the same girl as me while she had yet her friend at her side, while he totally knew I was attracted to her and we were actually having a very fun discussion for a while before he came... Didn't stop him, that wasn't my girlfriend, she was free and she could change her mind lol. He tried his best. Too bad, he was too late, god rewards the most daring people. He didn't have the balls to approach ladies sitting at their table, and refused to accompany me and let me do it alone until he saw me remaining with two persons. 15 minutes discussing with her was enough for her to not be able to see anyone else anymore, she was attracted to me as much I was attracted to her. I still had to be careful to never let her alone with him until the end of the night lol, you never know. I think that sort of thing in a game is better and more fun than " if you don't do anything, this couple happens and no proof whatsoever it might be the case if you start flirting, so you are the problem that prevents two folks to love each other. " But I totally see why It would be difficult to do this in a video game.
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Post by illuminated11 on Sept 7, 2024 12:15:23 GMT
happened with DA2 and Anders. This was based on the fact that you only discover Karl was his lover if you romance him as a guy. I thought that was a bit weird. Why wouldn't he tell a female Hawke of his past relationship? However, some people seemed to take objection to the fact that his preference wasn't respected, which was hilarious considering in DAA he was constantly going on about the attractiveness of women and never mentioned men at all. In fact he even said something how his dream was to settle down with a good woman (or something like that) because when I tried the version with the Orlesian Warden I had her point out that the good woman was standing right there. Perhaps he was over compensating or something. We had the whole thing with Dorian and Iron Bull and people saying they wouldn't romance either of them because they didn't want to get in the way of such a beautiful relationship, when I seem to recall even DW said it was a bit messed up if Bull was still in the Qun and that was before what happened in Trespasser. But boy were the writers pushing the relationship if he went Tal'Vashoth. Way more screen time devoted to their relationship in the epilogue than the one between Dorian and the Inquisitor. I was more miffed about that. Now I've seen people suggesting we should steer clear of Harding and Taash for the same reason! At this rate, if everyone hooks up with someone else and that puts them off limits, Rook is really going to have a difficult time romancing anyone. I wonder what companion doesn’t have a natural ‘pair’ though, since there’s an odd number of them? I hope it’s not that they all hook up except the one Rook romances, that would feel myopic and unprofessional. I don’t mind companions getting together, but I’d rather they not all pair off with each other over the course of one playthrough.
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Post by illuminated11 on Sept 7, 2024 12:24:07 GMT
I mean... They are eyeing each other up quite a bit lol Yeah this is why a lot of folks are already predicting a big thing between Lucanis and Emmerich. I think now this couple Emmerich / Lucanis has become a bit popular on twitter ! Now I've seen people suggesting we should steer clear of Harding and Taash for the same reason! At this rate, if everyone hooks up with someone else and that puts them off limits, Rook is really going to have a difficult time romancing anyone. To be honest. The fact that they stated so soon that Taash and Harding could have a thing without Rook, while I don't even have the game in my hands, still waiting to play it, already made it almost official and canon in my head lol. Thanksfully I'm a guy who know what he wants, and If that's the one, I won't hesitate, but yeah I could see why some folks might behave like that. I could also understand folks, with Dorian and bull. Their flirt together in the party kept coming and it was sometime err, very sexual lol. Like maybe we should leave you two alone... Personally, I'd rather the companions show their interest at the same time as Rook and it could create potential intimate conflits. I'd love that. At least it adds some interesting personal drama in the story of our protagonist and it would be like in real life. I mean, from my point of view fighting over the same girl you are attracted to between guys when you hang out, especially friends, nothing more realistic than that, It happens all the time. So I'd be okay with that, that wouldn't change anything. Even my own girlfriend, when I met her the first time, my best friend who came to join me later, showed strong interest too, trying to captivate the same girl as me while she had yet her friend at her side, while he totally knew I was attracted to her and we were actually having a very fun discussion for a while before he came... Didn't stop him, that wasn't my girlfriend, she was free and she could change her mind lol. He tried his best. Too bad, he was too late, god rewards the most daring people. He didn't have the balls to approach ladies sitting at their table, and refused to accompany me and let me do it alone until he saw me remaining with two persons. 15 minutes discussing with her was enough for her to not be able to see anyone else anymore, she was attracted to me as much I was attracted to her. I still had to be careful to never let her alone with him until the end of the night lol, you never know. I think that sort of thing in a game is better and more fun than " if you don't do anything, this couple happens and no proof whatsoever it might be the case if you start flirting, so you are the problem that prevents two folks to love each other. " But I totally see why It would be difficult to do this in a video game. Oh, I could see people hating that, haha. You make a good point though. At the very least, I’m hoping for the option to flirt with a romanced Lavellan while Solas seethes in the background.
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Post by Syv on Sept 7, 2024 12:33:29 GMT
Yeah this is why a lot of folks are already predicting a big thing between Lucanis and Emmerich. I think now this couple Emmerich / Lucanis has become a bit popular on twitter ! To be honest. The fact that they stated so soon that Taash and Harding could have a thing without Rook, while I don't even have the game in my hands, still waiting to play it, already made it almost official and canon in my head lol. Thanksfully I'm a guy who know what he wants, and If that's the one, I won't hesitate, but yeah I could see why some folks might behave like that. I could also understand folks, with Dorian and bull. Their flirt together in the party kept coming and it was sometime err, very sexual lol. Like maybe we should leave you two alone... Personally, I'd rather the companions show their interest at the same time as Rook and it could create potential intimate conflits. I'd love that. At least it adds some interesting personal drama in the story of our protagonist and it would be like in real life. I mean, from my point of view fighting over the same girl you are attracted to between guys when you hang out, especially friends, nothing more realistic than that, It happens all the time. So I'd be okay with that, that wouldn't change anything. Even my own girlfriend, when I met her the first time, my best friend who came to join me later, showed strong interest too, trying to captivate the same girl as me while she had yet her friend at her side, while he totally knew I was attracted to her and we were actually having a very fun discussion for a while before he came... Didn't stop him, that wasn't my girlfriend, she was free and she could change her mind lol. He tried his best. Too bad, he was too late, god rewards the most daring people. He didn't have the balls to approach ladies sitting at their table, and refused to accompany me and let me do it alone until he saw me remaining with two persons. 15 minutes discussing with her was enough for her to not be able to see anyone else anymore, she was attracted to me as much I was attracted to her. I still had to be careful to never let her alone with him until the end of the night lol, you never know. I think that sort of thing in a game is better and more fun than " if you don't do anything, this couple happens and no proof whatsoever it might be the case if you start flirting, so you are the problem that prevents two folks to love each other. " But I totally see why It would be difficult to do this in a video game. Oh, I could see people hating that, haha. You make a good point though. At the very least, I’m hoping for the option to flirt with a romanced Lavellan while Solas seethes in the background. Oh, don't worry, I could totally see people hating that too. Haha I love your idea with the romanced Lavellan.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 7, 2024 13:17:18 GMT
Personally, I'd rather the companions show their interest at the same time as Rook and it could create potential intimate conflits. I'd love that. At least it adds some interesting personal drama in the story of our protagonist and it would be like in real life. I think that sort of thing in a game is better and more fun than " if you don't do anything, this couple happens and no proof whatsoever it might be the case if you start flirting, so you are the problem that prevents two folks to love each other. " But I totally see why It would be difficult to do this in a video game. Well we've had that in Bioware games. Way back with BG2 it was noticeable that Haer'Dalis was flirting with Aerie. Never got more serious than that even if I didn't go with her myself but there was that little bit of underlying tension there. Then there was Isabella and Fenris in DA2. She was clearly flirting with him, making sexual innuendo and the like, until we finally got together, which in the case of my first run took the entirety of Act 2. Then, of course, I discovered that if I didn't romance either of them, they end up in a sort of friends with benefits arrangement. This also seems true of Iron Bull and Dorian. I don't think all the sexual innuendo only begins once you've definitely opted for someone else but it changes to obvious references to recent activities once you do. So, the flirting between companions and potential hooking up is nothing new. I have to admit if they get together because Rook takes too long about expressing their interest, that would be amusing. Bit like your friend missing out because he was too reticent about making the first move but you weren't. May be it would be a case of them checking first to make sure you're okay with it but it doesn't have to be that way. I have to admit it is odd they should bring it up at all in view of what has happened in previous games but perhaps the information is for new players who aren't familiar with how they do things.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 7, 2024 13:34:48 GMT
Yeah this is why a lot of folks are already predicting a big thing between Lucanis and Emmerich. I think now this couple Emmerich / Lucanis has become a bit popular on twitter ! Oh and ignoring the context or the fact that Lucanis is smiling whilst making his comment before Emmrich even looks round at him or that Bellara is also looking at him but just screen shot at precisely that moment so it looks as though they are gazing into each other's eyes longingly, and missing that I think Emmrich actually raises his eyebrows in surprise at the suggestion about finding Solas' weaknesses and Lucanis could be baiting him because of Emmrich's relationship with spirits and the fact that Lucanis may have a special relationship too. Since it cuts off straight after, for all we know Emmrich could have ended up reacting quite differently. Anyway, what about Lucanis and Bellara? They apparently bond over cooking. To be honest, since I'm interested in both of them that could introduce way more complications where my Rook is concerned.
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Post by merane on Sept 7, 2024 15:34:27 GMT
Yeah this is why a lot of folks are already predicting a big thing between Lucanis and Emmerich. I think now this couple Emmerich / Lucanis has become a bit popular on twitter ! Oh and ignoring the context or the fact that Lucanis is smiling whilst making his comment before Emmrich even looks round at him or that Bellara is also looking at him but just screen shot at precisely that moment so it looks as though they are gazing into each other's eyes longingly, and missing that I think Emmrich actually raises his eyebrows in surprise at the suggestion about finding Solas' weaknesses and Lucanis could be baiting him because of Emmrich's relationship with spirits and the fact that Lucanis may have a special relationship too. Since it cuts off straight after, for all we know Emmrich could have ended up reacting quite differently. Anyway, what about Lucanis and Bellara? They apparently bond over cooking. To be honest, since I'm interested in both of them that could introduce way more complications where my Rook is concerned. I feel like Dragon Age Veilguard could be renamed Dragon Age The Young and the Restless* (or any soap opera). Save the world? Repair the veil? Nah, I have to cook with Lucanis before Emmerich steals it from me. Otherwise I'm not bothered by the fact that the companions have their own romantic life, as long as everyone is not concerned. It would be really weird. I hope we can find some interactions like in DAO, with Wynne who comments on your relationship and gives advice, jealousy, misunderstandings... I know some people didn't like it but I find that it makes the relationships more real and alive. And it can reveal other information about the characters.
I'm really looking forward to finding out the relationship between these two and I wonder what kind of scenes involving foods and cooking we'll have.
* the french title has absolutely nothing to do with the original title, it's really disturbing, Les feux de l'amour which translates to The fires of love .
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Post by roselavellan on Sept 7, 2024 16:07:31 GMT
Anyway, what about Lucanis and Bellara? They apparently bond over cooking. I like this idea! A little more than Emmrich and Lucanis, personally. Apparently Bellara has some tragedy in her past, right? And she's also a cheerful optimist, from what I can tell. So with a bubbly personality which complements his quiet one, and an understanding of personal trauma, she can perhaps help Lucanis heal from his past trauma. And my Rook can see Lucanis blossoming in a relationship while she herself romances Emmrich. Or Neve.
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Post by illuminated11 on Sept 7, 2024 18:42:41 GMT
Emmerich is older than the other characters, so pairing him with any of them feels a little weird. It'd be like pairing Wynne and Alistair; even though they're a little playful-flirty in the Return to Ostagar DLC, it was mostly tongue-in-cheek.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Sept 7, 2024 19:30:58 GMT
Then Lucanis better brace himself, because Emmrich is hung like a horse, I’m convinced. I don’t know why, but I just know it’s humongous and his lovers walk funny for a day or two. 🤷♀️
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Post by witchcocktor on Sept 7, 2024 20:09:04 GMT
Emmerich is older than the other characters, so pairing him with any of them feels a little weird. It'd be like pairing Wynne and Alistair; even though they're a little playful-flirty in the Return to Ostagar DLC, it was mostly tongue-in-cheek. Emmrich is romanceable by the Rook, who has no canon age, so I think it's a bit late to be clutching our pearls if Lucanis is down to chow down on some silver fox meat.
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Post by illuminated11 on Sept 7, 2024 21:58:46 GMT
Lucanis can do whatever he wants, he's a grown man lol, it's just not a pairing I'm interested in. In that regard, the Alistair comparison is a little unfair since he's like 18 or something. That said, I am curious how age is going to factor into Emmrich's romance, or more specifically the fact that Rook has no real canon age and that changes the dynamic in subtle ways, but that's more to do with Emmrich than Lucanis.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 8, 2024 7:35:06 GMT
That said, I am curious how age is going to factor into Emmrich's romance, or more specifically the fact that Rook has no real canon age and that changes the dynamic in subtle ways, but that's more to do with Emmrich than Lucanis. Corinne says that Emmrich referred to her PC as "my dear" during fights as in "well done, my dear." I couldn't imagine him saying that to Lucanis somehow. Well, certainly not Lucanis appreciating it. To be honest, I hope it doesn't sound too patronising when he uses it to Rook. Having spent much of my life looking much younger than my years, when I was in my twenties I found people referring to me as "dear" just a tad annoying because it implied they thought I was just a kid and needed patting on the head (metaphorically speaking) and being reassured I had their approval. Not that I'm going to have that problem with Emmrich because I've already said he reminds me too much of my late father for it not to be off putting.
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Post by Syv on Sept 8, 2024 7:52:30 GMT
Personally, I'd rather the companions show their interest at the same time as Rook and it could create potential intimate conflits. I'd love that. At least it adds some interesting personal drama in the story of our protagonist and it would be like in real life. I think that sort of thing in a game is better and more fun than " if you don't do anything, this couple happens and no proof whatsoever it might be the case if you start flirting, so you are the problem that prevents two folks to love each other. " But I totally see why It would be difficult to do this in a video game. Well we've had that in Bioware games. Way back with BG2 it was noticeable that Haer'Dalis was flirting with Aerie. Never got more serious than that even if I didn't go with her myself but there was that little bit of underlying tension there. Then there was Isabella and Fenris in DA2. She was clearly flirting with him, making sexual innuendo and the like, until we finally got together, which in the case of my first run took the entirety of Act 2. Then, of course, I discovered that if I didn't romance either of them, they end up in a sort of friends with benefits arrangement. This also seems true of Iron Bull and Dorian. I don't think all the sexual innuendo only begins once you've definitely opted for someone else but it changes to obvious references to recent activities once you do. So, the flirting between companions and potential hooking up is nothing new. I have to admit if they get together because Rook takes too long about expressing their interest, that would be amusing. Bit like your friend missing out because he was too reticent about making the first move but you weren't. May be it would be a case of them checking first to make sure you're okay with it but it doesn't have to be that way. I have to admit it is odd they should bring it up at all in view of what has happened in previous games but perhaps the information is for new players who aren't familiar with how they do things. I don't think we have had actually. What you are refering to, is still something evasive, a little vague.. it's something that happens on the sidelines, without the protagonist being confronted with the reality of the situation and its ambiguous awkwardness, without having any possibility to react. Without him having to deal with the chosen romance and his rival. Wiithout any intimate conflict. Was Fenris receptive to Isabela's advances even though your Hawk was already flirting with him and they had a sort of thing ? Was he also actively flirting with Isabela ? Or was he just responding nicely to her, because when someone flirts with you, you don't have to respond unkindly, you can also accept the compliment, without trying anything with the person, because you already have someone in your head. (Hawk) Also it seems to me, that in DAII, actually, the flirts in act 1 were totally meaningless and led to not much. With Merril and Isabela, at least totally useless. Merril doesn't even aknowledge you are hitting on her, It totally went over her head., but then I could understand, Hawk wasn't really good at that moment to make his point lol. Honestly, it really starts in Act 2. The inquisitor fighting with lord Otranto over Josephine is one example of a true rivalry romance you cannot escape. The player can't pretend dismissing that, can't pretend it didn't happen with vague rumors or things he learned here and there without even being sure of the information. The protagonist is fairly impacted and has to act to destroy his opponent over his love like my own inquisor took pleasure to do. Having the upper hand in the end in a triangle in a video game is less satisfying than in real life, but it is still a great feeling lmao. I was thinking about that sort of thing I'd rather see happen for more possibilities to flest out our character and his relationships with his companions. ----- As for the couple Lucanis and Bellara. My thoughts. On one hand I don't think that that sort of couple : "Two tortured folks who have trauma from their past", really work. It could lead to disaster and actuallly it often leads to disaster. It's like a date between two very very social awkward and shy folks, you would think that since they are both socially awkward and share the same personality, it could only give marvelous results, that they would easily understand each other, and yet it's often the total opposite actually, and the date is a total disaster, with one of them who finally can't handle the awkwardness of the situation, and the embarassment, deciding to find an excuse like " oh sorry, my friend has broken her leg, I need to see her immediately, i'm sorry, we'll try another date, I promise " and leave the person behind. And of course, that person won't ever answer anymore to the SMS lol. On the other hand Lucanis needs to learn to trust against, and since Bellara seems a very gentle and romantic girl, they are both team cooking, it could yes lead to something. The relationship could grow over time, very slowly. But I'm not very sold on that couple, I don't see them together personally.
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As for the couple Lucanis and Bellara. My thoughts. On one hand I don't think that that sort of couple : "Two tortured folks who have trauma from their past", really work. It could lead to disaster and actuallly it often leads to disaster. It's like a date between two very very social awkward and shy folks, you would think that since they are both socially awkward and share the same personality, it could only give marvelous results, that they would easily understand each other, and yet it's often the total opposite actually, and the date is a total disaster, with one of them who finally can't handle the awkwardness of the situation, and the embarassment, deciding to find an excuse like " oh sorry, my friend has broken her leg, I need to see her immediately, i'm sorry, we'll try another date, I promise " and leave the person behind. And of course, that person won't ever answer anymore to the SMS lol. On the other hand Lucanis needs to learn to trust against, and since Bellara seems a very gentle and romantic girl, they are both team cooking, it could yes lead to something. The relationship could grow over time, very slowly. But I'm not very sold on that couple, I don't see them together personally. I agree that it wouldn't be easy to have two socially awkward people together, both working through their respective traumas. Not impossible, mind you, but it would not be easy. Which is why I thought Bellara's bubbly personality would be a good complement to Lucanis' reticence. Her personality seems to be the opposite of his, and her cheerfulness could perhaps draw him out of his shell. And I can see her appreciating a protective assassin by her side while she geeks around elven ruins. Also, the hints I read about her tragedy implied it was something she has worked through and come to terms with, maybe? So while a person's past becomes a part of them, I was thinking that if she herself has healed from it, she might have a depth of understanding that someone like, say, Taash (?) may not yet have. Of course, Emmrich, with his age and specific experience, would have a lot of understanding of tragedy as well. Of course we have our personal preferences, and yours is as valid as mine. And it's all just conjecture at this point anyway
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 8, 2024 8:50:01 GMT
Merril doesn't even aknowledge you are hitting on her, It totally went over her head., Oh really? Then why after making one flirtatious comment about her lovely eyes in Act 1 does she turn up in Act 3 thinking we are an item? The reason for this was the stupid friend/rivalry meter which meant the relationship couldn't advance any further until you were locked in on one direction or another. On that particular run she had hovered around the middle until the final confrontation with the demon in Act 3, after which clearly I had done enough to trigger the next stage. Except I had already reconciled with Fenris! I assume it had to be a bug on that particular run but it was confusing to have her turn up like that and then be disappointed if I turn her down, implying I led her on. With one comment?
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 8, 2024 8:52:16 GMT
On one hand I don't think that that sort of couple : "Two tortured folks who have trauma from their past", really work. It could lead to disaster and actuallly it often leads to disaster. You could say the same about Dorian and Iron Bull. Mind you, if he stayed in the Qun it did, so I suppose that proves your point.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Sept 8, 2024 8:57:12 GMT
Something I just remembered, Corinne said Lucanis went through some trauma and is relearning to trust people. Thing is, Lucanis doesn't strike me as having had many friends or people he trusted, to begin with. It was just him and his cousin.
Do we think that fool Illario could have betrayed Lucanis, tried to kill him (or succeeded, kinda) or helped Zara do whatever it is that she did - so he could be First Talon?
Or is she maybe referencing all the trauma from Lucanis' past, with Caterina and how she raised him and stuff? 🤔
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Post by jediguardian on Sept 8, 2024 9:55:30 GMT
I mean... They are eyeing each other up quite a bit lol Seriously?! Emmrich was giving his take on the murals in the Lighthouse and had the attention of both Bellara and Lucanis. Then Lucanis makes a suggestion, which puts attention onto him, so Emmrich turns his head to look at him and would appear to react surprised he would say that. That's it. Emmrich is said to be a gentleman. That means you are courteous and give other people your full attention when they are speaking. Lucanis is an assassin where it pays to give full attention to other speakers in case you learn something to your advantage or perceive a threat. How is that supposed to be eyeing each other up romantically? I like to give people full attention when I talk to them. And I also like when they give me back full attention too. So for me this is good impression to start relationship/friendship.
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Post by Liepsnele on Sept 8, 2024 11:46:06 GMT
Something I just remembered, Corinne said Lucanis went through some trauma and is relearning to trust people. Thing is, Lucanis doesn't strike me as having had many friends or people he trusted, to begin with. It was just him and his cousin. Do we think that fool Illario could have betrayed Lucanis, tried to kill him (or succeeded, kinda) or helped Zara do whatever it is that she did - so he could be First Talon? Or is she maybe referencing all the trauma from Lucanis' past, with Caterina and how she raised him and stuff? 🤔 I hope Illario hasn't betrayed Lucanis - they were like brothers, and Lucanis VA mentioned about drawing inspiration for their relationship from his own relationship with his brother. It would be heartbreaking (but compelling for the narrative ) it if it was ruined by a betrayal. In any event, TN left it quite ambiguous as to what may happen by describing Illario being cordial with Lucanis but concealing something "rotten" behind his honeyed words. Bioware also mentioned we will find out what happened to his parents, it sounds like they were victims of Antivan or Crow politics and finding out the truth could take its toll on Lucanis. That being said, relearning to trust people could simply mean that since Lucanis was abused by his own grandma, he thought that no one, not even his family and certainly not strangers could be trusted, and it will take a lot of time for him to open up and become friends with Rook and the rest of the companions.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 8, 2024 13:25:03 GMT
Or is she maybe referencing all the trauma from Lucanis' past, with Caterina and how she raised him and stuff? 🤔 Bioware also mentioned we will find out what happened to his parents, it sounds like they were victims of Antivan or Crow politics and finding out the truth could take its toll on Lucanis. Hopefully it has to do with this. May be he had a confrontation with Caterina over her desire for him to become First Talon and how he didn't want it, then she let something slip about what had happened to his parents, which likely involved her. So then he has to deal with the fact that not only did she treat abominably as a child but lied to him about what happened to his parents too. That would be hard to take. They also mentioned in another interview about how Bellara and Lucanis bond despite their different backgrounds, because both think family is important. So, I don't think Illario betrayed him or he might have rejected the notion of family loyalty altogether. As you say, his training by his grandmother probably conditioned him to trust no one, not simply because she abused him but because that is basically how life is as a Crow. You trust no one but yourself. Zevran encountered the same problem in view of his training and then how he had been lied to by Taliesin over his former love because she hadn't betrayed them (it was just a contract by the Crows because she was politically dangerous) and had to overcome it before he could fully commit to the Warden. What was so touching about his story was that if you do the ultimate sacrifice, he never loves again despite numerous offers, so I took that to mean he wouldn't even have casual sex out of respect for the memory of his former love. That was amazing and also why it was so annoying they allowed a bug in DA2 that had Zevran ignoring this and offering to sleep with Hawke and Isabella. They say Lucanis has a romantic side, so I guess he could ultimately be as devoted to Rook as Zevran was to the Warden. You just have to get past all that Crow conditioning (and possibly other complications).
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Sept 8, 2024 23:12:10 GMT
Question for Lucanis romancers: If he manifests the purple wings during 🦴ing, like when he climaxes - is that a turn-on, or a turn-off?
And what if he starts cawing like a crow? Is that weird? 🧐 #Science
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Post by Felya87 on Sept 9, 2024 5:47:12 GMT
I've played enought otome VNs with Tenguu LIs that I would just be "awww".
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