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There's something in her voice when she talks about the time she met Bastien and how starstruck she was that makes me feel like she was genuine and innocent in her initial infatuation with him. The fact she refuses the Inquisitor's flirts despite the fact it would be very advantageous for her to be associated romantically with them also shows her loyalty to Bastien and her personal quest is about trying to save his life from an illness. She has a very hard exterior and her hypocrisy is a massive turn off but, if you get an Inquisitor to be her friend, you can get a peek behind the curtain. She was a very good student of the Orlesian court but there is some genuineness to her.

She seemed genuinely sympathetic to my Lavellan in Trespasser if she romanced Solas which surprised me considering how crass and insensitive Varric and Cassandra were. (Ditto my Dorian romance for the last two). She also seemed genuine when she was concerned for Dorian in Trespasser. I also think she rather enjoyed her banter with him, probably because he could give as good as he got, and loved her response to the mage she corresponded with in Tevinter who was trying to get her to dish the dirt on his relationship with the Inquisitor. Yes, she was a social climber and snob but she did sort of grow on me and I think some of her attitude was just defensive; she had to survive in the Orlesian court when all is said and done.

I confess to never having encountered this particular issue 

Several items copied from various comments here of interest to me...



Et tu felis diabolis? I'm finding the trope that Inquisition wasn't impactful as a 'dark fantasy' because of the written codices less convincing than I used to. One is the fact that there were plenty of terrible things that you did witness directly instead of through written intermediary. Remember seeing what happened to some of the lesser mages in Redcliff village in the fractured future of In Hushed Whispers? How about the circus cages of slaves in Emprise? The Warden 'brothers' destroying their fellows at the Ritual Tower in the Western Approach (amid all the monuments to Warden brotherhood and sacrifice?) There are many others, but the point is that there was plenty of misery right in front of your eyes and only some that you could do anything about. When I look back through the game, I find the codex reasoning a bit more hollow. Second, some of the written items certainly had more punch when taken as a whole for me. Consider the quiet, leg-gnawing desperation of the people around the Fallow Mire as you bashed in barricaded doors to quiet their corpses. (and no one is convincing me that was a bright palette). The haunted house theatrics of the Chateau d'Onterre isn't what hits as you walk the damned halls. It is the notes in small drabs that show the devastation that a combination of fear of social shame, denial of the reality of a young woman, and the carelessness of charlatan (or worse) can unleash on a family. As a twice over GirlDad it probably hit me harder than some others. Sometimes, temporal distance just lets the wounds fester that much more. I will not deny that many here feel that Inquisition failed them somehow but I'm afraid I get further and further bridging the gap between my experience and yours/their's and I'm not a personality that can rest with that. Thanks for the example though. It is good eventhough it smacks more of a rushed feature (as does the lore 'payoff' in the temple) than as some kind of intentional lightening.



Is the best 'power fantasy' we can aspire to imitating drunken louts? Does your fantasy also include the inevitable consequences of these activities regardless of station or power? If this is your definition of rich RP, I've got to say I aim a bit higher than Homer Simpson and Al Bundy. Call me crazy.



Hey now! Most of us wear shoes and many even have more than one pair these days. No need to go hatin'

If Morrigan and Isabela are fanservice, then the girls got Alister, Sebastian, Anders, Fenris, Blackwall, and Cullen (oh how the girls squeed).

I don't think we can really say anything about DAV having good romances.  There are some decent looking options...and again I'd say the girls got the better end of the deal overall.

Yeah, I loathe the type of fanservice girl you show...and I no more want that in a DA game than I do Qunari Lurch.

There are some people who think Isabela design is.. better?

What does "better" mean? I'm asking for context and clarification. This isn't a useful term to provide insight. I can't even tell if you're one of the people who think Isabela is better and being sarcastic or you're confused and asking if there are people that think Isabela is designed better. So yeah, I can't read minds, that's why I asked fairdragon for some elaboration.

Oh yeah, it was climbing, wasn't it? I haven't played Genshin since very close to its launch so I'm fuzzy on things. I think I may have conflated the fact that you could possibly double jump while climbing to do it faster? Maybe that's why I associated the actions with her moaning. 

See, this is interesting, because the images you compared are completely different media ways of portraying both of these characters (figurine versus concept art). Camilla doesn't look exactly like that figurine in the game and Isabela doesn't look exactly like that concept art in the game. Camilla seems a bit better proportioned in the game and Isabela's breasts are larger in the game and I would say closer in size to Camilla (yeah, I know, I'm comparing breasts sizes right now, I understand the nitpickiness ). Isabela I also wouldn't say wears a dress, that's at most lingerie kept together by a corset (but again nitpickiness). That introduction clip for Camilla, though, yeah, not a fan of that portrayal.

Sounds like the real life bi's are the winners in this game.