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Post by azarhal on Sept 12, 2024 14:36:00 GMT
It's not like Solas would have warned him about it. But he did warn them about the ritual. They asked Solas if it was safe, and he told them it's as safe as they make it. During the ritual, Solas asked, repeatedly, for Nadia to kindly shut up, and for Elio to focus on the ritual and not his squealing girlfriend. Neither of them listened and, predictably, things appeared to go sideways. I think he did his best to keep things from falling apart, but apparently there is only so much ineptitude even he can compensate for. As for the collapse, they all knew the danger they were walking in to. They wanted the coin more than their safety. The ritual probably worked as intended, Solas never said what the end result would be or even what it would do. All he says is "more or less" to "will it fix this?" and Elio was saying something is wrong before Solas say to keep focus and all was intended. Just like he never told his diggers what they were digging for. He didn't even tell them they could stop once he got what he wanted. He just left. Greer was the only one with a brain among that bunch thought, but still. Also, not sure they got paid in advance...
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Post by azarhal on Sept 12, 2024 14:37:07 GMT
Does anyone know who voices the intro and credits? Brandon Gill based on the credits.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Sept 12, 2024 14:54:17 GMT
To continue playing devil's advocate... He never properly explained what's this ritual about and he never mentioned the possibility of getting trapped in the Fade. Elio never asked. Elio had no idea what he was getting himself into. And yet he agreed to it, and was confident in his abilities. What reason did Solas have to doubt him?
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Post by Reznore on Sept 12, 2024 14:58:03 GMT
The ritual probably worked as intended, Solas never said what the end result would be or even what it would do. All he says is "more or less" to "will it fix this?" and Elio was saying something is wrong before Solas say to keep focus and all was intended. Just like he never told his diggers what they were digging for. He didn't even tell them they could stop once he got what he wanted. He just left. Greer was the only one with a brain among that bunch thought, but still. Also, not sure they got paid in advance... I won't be listening cos I have zero patience but my armless Inquisitor thinks it does sounds very much like Solas.
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Post by roselavellan on Sept 12, 2024 14:59:47 GMT
I'm impressed how hard you defend a narcissic who has no issues to let his hired helpers die at work because he didn't care to tell them to stop working after he got what he wanted because he really really needs to destroy the world. I really wouldn't base your character assessment of Solas on this podcast. It is full of plot holes and even more annoying for its contrivances than the Missing. Knowing what you do of Solas and his reluctance to share knowledge with anyone, plus he isn't a total idiot, do you really think he would trust any of these individuals with something important to his future plans? So, don't take it seriously and just hope that the narrative of the Veilguard is better than this. Yeah, I understand these to be little scenes to introduce the new companions and characters, and maybe set the stage a little for DAV. I'm listening in sporadically just to hear their voices tbh.
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 12, 2024 15:05:57 GMT
You're saying this as if Inquisitor didn't delegate or outsource missions that turned out to have had cost in human life, regardless of what we did? Even elven gods may not be able to be everywhere all at once. And Thedas is quite big. And considering he's quite convinced he's trying to save the world (and, judging what we saw in what was reveal already - he may be on to something) it's quite likely important (from his perspective) matters may have kept him very busy elsewhere. Maybe he even tries to do something about that Elio situation, which is why Nadia keeps getting those strange seizures. I'm impressed how hard you defend a narcissic who has no issues to let his hired helpers die at work because he didn't care to tell them to stop working after he got what he wanted because he really really needs to destroy the world. It's really impressive. The only thing impressive here is trying to pretend that we (people who are this deep intro story and lore) don't know already that Solas plan ain't as simple as "destroying the world" The other impressive thing is trying to infer how "he had no issues to let his hired helpers die" based on second-hand accounts - we only know that someone who titled himself Dread Wolf hired miners and vanished right before the miners got attacked, nothing else. Like, we can't infer from this what you're trying to infer, sorry.
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 12, 2024 15:16:40 GMT
I'm impressed how hard you defend a narcissic who has no issues to let his hired helpers die at work because he didn't care to tell them to stop working after he got what he wanted because he really really needs to destroy the world. I really wouldn't base your character assessment of Solas on this podcast. It is full of plot holes and even more annoying for its contrivances than the Missing. Knowing what you do of Solas and his reluctance to share knowledge with anyone, plus he isn't a total idiot, do you really think he would trust any of these individuals with something important to his future plans? So, don't take it seriously and just hope that the narrative of the Veilguard is better than this. I wouldn't all those plot holes - this podcast is written specifically to give us an impression that Solas is a pretty straightforward villain, while keeping a lot of information away from both the audience and especially the heroes of this story; most of them aren't clued into anything Solas does at all. They're just trying to piece things together from what they know, or what they seem to know, and we - the clued-in audience - should take this into account. But - at this point in time - neither us nor them know much of anything about what magical hijinks going on around them (for example, we have no clue what's caused the quakes - including the quake that killed most miners. And we really don't know what the ritual conducted by Solas and Elio was supposed to accomplish - and whether it did or not).
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Post by Andrew Waples on Sept 12, 2024 15:25:36 GMT
Does anyone know who voices the intro and credits? Brandon Gill based on the credits. Guess I wasn't paying attention...
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 12, 2024 17:38:08 GMT
I wouldn't all those plot holes - this podcast is written specifically to give us an impression that Solas is a pretty straightforward villain, while keeping a lot of information away from both the audience and especially the heroes of this story; most of them aren't clued into anything Solas does at all. They're just trying to piece things together from what they know, or what they seem to know, and we - the clued-in audience - should take this into account. That's what I find puzzling. It doesn't really give enough information about Solas to be of use to people totally new to Thedas to really appreciate what is going on and it seems odd to people who are already familiar with him. In Tevinter Nights he did have other people working for him but the motives were easy to understand, although perhaps less so to people who hadn't played the games. Still, trying to escalate the Qunari/Tevinter war at the same time as destroying the Qunari magical research facility did make sense. Trying to track down and recover the idol again made sense and initially he was using proxies rather than doing it himself but probably decided to step in personally when their efforts didn't succeed. Naturally, when he heard there was a "secret" meeting of people interested in his affairs, he attended it himself in disguise because he probably didn't want to entrust such a vital mission to anyone else. In the Missing it seemed to me that if he hadn't wanted to be followed he wouldn't have left so many clues. Now we know about the Lighthouse, what was that supposed "secret" hideout in the Deep Roads? Why wasn't it warded against entry unless he wanted certain people to find it and follow his clue? Then, after telling Varric to stop following him, somehow he and Harding knew to seek Solas in Minrathous. Presumably they got a message from someone. Very conveniently they had to choose to help some runaway slaves which allowed him to give them the slip again. I honestly think that elf was one of his agents. However, I find it hard to understand why Solas isn't more discrete in his movements. It is almost as though he is setting them up to find him when he wants them to. However, the podcast plot is contrived. What was that ritual meant to achieve? Why did it require that particular mage? It is not as though Solas probably doesn't have plenty of his own to call upon. If the mage was that important to the ritual, together with the artifact, why not approach him direct instead of risking them not successfully stealing it, getting killed along the way, etc? As Nadia said this episode, if she had said yes to marriage instead of going off in a strop she would never have taken on the job, so would never have stolen the artifact and Elio would never have been placed in the position he was. So, how did Solas know that she would refuse? He didn't. Subsequent episodes mostly seem to involve a lot of shouting and running but nothing really of substance. I think it would have benefited from having a narrator to describe the location and the journey in between the dialogue. As I've said in my previous post, I really don't understand what we are meant to gain from listening to it. I am enthused for the locations we are going to visit by the recently released video footage. They have told us plenty about the companions to encourage us to want to get to know them. So, what was the purpose of this podcast really?
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Post by azarhal on Sept 12, 2024 17:54:06 GMT
Why did it require that particular mage? Based on what Solas said in the episode. He needed Elio because he was a descendant of the person who made the Eye and Elio formed a bound with the Eye a the dock.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 12, 2024 18:10:47 GMT
Based on what Solas said in the episode. He needed Elio because he was a descendant of the person who made the Eye and Elio formed a bound with the Eye a the dock. I know what it said. That's what I meant about the plot being contrived because of how so many aspects depended on things that only happened in a certain way because of what occurred between Elio and Nadia at the beginning. If Elio hadn't proposed and Nadia hadn't refused him, she would never have left and gone back to her old haunts where she took on the job (remember she was semi-retired as a professional thief). Then Neve, apparently not working for Solas, alerted Elio to what Nadia was doing. So, he went to the archive to stop her. She still stole the item even after he told her to put it back because of course he was now in trouble with the law, so she figured they would need money. Then on the dock he used magic (there was no knowing he would do this in advance) which caused the Eye to bond with him (was Solas lying about this?) So, they rendezvous with Solas to get their payment and, how coincidental, it turns out he needed both Elio and the artifact and Nadia surmises he employed her specifically because of her connection to Elio. How did she arrive at that conclusion? She only decided to steal it that morning having had an argument with Elio. As she said this episode, if she hadn't refused his offer of marriage, she would never have stolen the artifact and everything else that happened as a result would not have occurred. So Solas would have been screwed. There is no way he could have planned it to occur as it did. It was just a series of contrived coincidences that enabled these things to happen.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 12, 2024 18:30:19 GMT
I will admit there is something interesting in this episode concerning Davrin. It may be nothing but this strikes me as odd: When Nadia says she is hunting the Dread Wolf, Davrin suddenly takes more interest and says the following:
DAVRIN: There's a legend among my kind, the story of Fen'Harel. He who hunts alone and the Lord of Tricksters. He's an Elven god that betrayed the ancients. He's a harbinger of chaos and rebellion. If this one speaks the truth, then something much bigger is going on and the Wardens need to get to the bottom of it.
Okay, so those highlighted passages strike me as odd. How does he know this? Presumably word has reached him of what the Inquisitor discovered but are we to assume that no matter what race they were, the information was conveyed to the Dalish? If so, Davrin could not have been a Warden very long because he should have broken all ties with his clan when he did. Plus he speaks as though all those aspects are part of the legend of his people. Well, that's not true because none of the lore we previously had from the Dalish mentioned that Fen'Harel hunted alone or that he was associated with chaos and rebellion.
Then later when they discover some mosaics with wolves on them and an eluvian he says the following:
DAVRIN: Ah, see those small wolf totems? Those are just like the ones the Dalish place in their camps in Arlathan. They're for the Dread Wolf.
Notice how he does't say "My clan used to place them in their camp...." but the Dalish as though he isn't one. Also it is not just the Dalish in Arlathan that place them in their camps but all Dalish. Also, how does he know what the Dalish in Arlathan do because, again, I thought the Dalish had only just returned there?
Also, he seems devoted to Andruil (hardly surprising as a hunter) but he gives them the blessing of the goddess to their journey: "May Andruil guide you on your path". However, the Dalish goddess of navigation and journeys is Ghilan'nain. Now there is another "Dalish", allegedly formerly a city elf from Starkhaven, who is devoted to the goddess Andruil and that is Strife. He is based over in Arlathan. Coincidence?
So, either Davrin is suspicious or the writers have once again been messing with the lore concerning what the Dalish believe and passed this on to the writers of the podcast.
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Post by azarhal on Sept 12, 2024 18:42:46 GMT
I will admit there is something interesting in this episode concerning Davrin. It may be nothing but this strikes me as odd: When Nadia says she is hunting the Dread Wolf, Davrin suddenly takes more interest and says the following:
DAVRIN: There's a legend among my kind, the story of Fen'Harel. He who hunts alone and the Lord of Tricksters. He's an Elven god that betrayed the ancients. He's a harbinger of chaos and rebellion. If this one speaks the truth, then something much bigger is going on and the Wardens need to get to the bottom of it.
Okay, so those highlighted passages strike me as odd. How does he know this? Presumably word has reached him of what the Inquisitor discovered but are we to assume that no matter what race they were, the information was conveyed to the Dalish? If so, Davrin could not have been a Warden very long because he should have broken all ties with his clan when he did. Plus he speaks as though all those aspects are part of the legend of his people. Well, that's not true because none of the lore we previously had from the Dalish mentioned that Fen'Harel hunted alone or that he was associated with chaos and rebellion.
Then later when they discover some mosaics with wolves on them and an eluvian he says the following:
DAVRIN: Ah, see those small wolf totems? Those are just like the ones the Dalish place in their camps in Arlathan. They're for the Dread Wolf.
Notice how he does't say "My clan used to place them in their camp...." but the Dalish as though he isn't one. Also it is not just the Dalish in Arlathan that place them in their camps but all Dalish. Also, how does he know what the Dalish in Arlathan do because, again, I thought the Dalish had only just returned there?
Also, he seems devoted to Andruil (hardly surprising as a hunter) but he gives them the blessing of the goddess to their journey: "May Andruil guide you on your path". However, the Dalish goddess of navigation and journeys is Ghilan'nain. Now there is another "Dalish", allegedly formerly a city elf from Starkhaven, who is devoted to the goddess Andruil and that is Strife. He is based over in Arlathan. Coincidence?
So, either Davrin is suspicious or the writers have once again been messing with the lore concerning what the Dalish believe and passed this on to the writers of the podcast.
Davrin was always suspicious. All those companions in Veilguard are sus!
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 12, 2024 18:52:32 GMT
I wouldn't all those plot holes - this podcast is written specifically to give us an impression that Solas is a pretty straightforward villain, while keeping a lot of information away from both the audience and especially the heroes of this story; most of them aren't clued into anything Solas does at all. They're just trying to piece things together from what they know, or what they seem to know, and we - the clued-in audience - should take this into account. That's what I find puzzling. It doesn't really give enough information about Solas to be of use to people totally new to Thedas to really appreciate what is going on and it seems odd to people who are already familiar with him. I don't really find it that puzzling, because I think I know what they're doing, from storytelling perspective - this isn't a podcast to introduce us to "what's going on in Thedas" or "to give us enough information about Solas", but introduce us to the companions and throw a bit of light on what kind of characters they are*, and make Solas look - at the very least - as a controversial figure that players will feel motivated to stop during the first hour of the story. To us, hardcore fans, Solas' portrayal and what's going on my feel a bit reductionist, but in this regard we're not the target audience, as we more-or-less know whether we want to redeem/kill Solas based on multiple other sources - to us this podcast is mostly about bits of information here and there (apparently magic portals are a thing, it's not just eluvians that can transport people at great distances. Also - path between sun and moon?) and, as mentioned already, the Veilguard companions. * (this episode was in large part what kind of character Davrin is: proactive, loyal, adventurous, and not shying away from his past as the Dalish or their beliefs, etc.)...But why are you comparing this "secret hideout" in the Deep Roads to lighthouse? There's a marked difference between plot/mission-relevant places (or bolt-holes, like in case of the hidden Deep Roads mural in Trespasser) and the main base of operations. Why assume that in a time as chaotic as it appears to be any warding would even work? We don't really know who or why they needed the portal - maybe they thought that none of the warding is needed, because even if the danger of the mine won't keep the people away, it's quite unlikely anyone would figure what they're even looking at, much less use it. Dreyden is established to be a very smart person, and ultimately it was Dreyden that figured what to do (with help from Nadia and Davrin) - all that, while we don't even know whether the portal has really led them to the same spot as a person who knew exactly what the portal was. We really are operating under very little information at this point. I mean... Varric and Harding are members of the organization that - for basically the whole decade - has dedicated itself to tracking him down. The fact that Harding and Varric are able to get better info on Solas whereabouts (even if not enough to fully catch up to him) is therefore entirely unsurprising. I... uh. That's like saying that the book's plot is contrived after reading only 3 chapters and being surprised the whole plot of the book wasn't already spelled out The story is far from over yet (and we don't even know whether plot-points from it will be continued in the game or not). Please let it finish before you deem it contrived. Apparently because that particular relic was tied to that particular mage through direct descent. We know bloodlines and magic bound to it are a thing in that universe. And Elio bonding to the artifact while they were trying to escape assassins in Minrathous probably was a factor there too. Solas is a pretty good judge of character. He's been known for that ever since the time of Evauris. I've already made a claim that's where his pride (spirits of Pride are also excellent judges of character, btw.) is stemming from: he's so good, that sometimes he gets too overconfident. But it works in most cases - and it clearly worked here to (while Solas getting the artifact from Archives by some other means and then approaching Elio seems no less contrived, especially in a city full of people already looking for him). Heyyy, welcome to character-driven story that exist predominantly to introduce us to the roster of Veilguard's main cast - and give us a story that we can follow (and may even dig out some interesting tidbits from), but one that can't really go into too much detail so as to not to spoil the Veilguard too much.
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Post by jennica on Sept 12, 2024 18:53:01 GMT
Notice how he does't say "My clan used to place them in their camp...." but the Dalish as though he isn't one. Also it is not just the Dalish in Arlathan that place them in their camps but all Dalish. I think what he meant is that the totems of this particular design are used by the Dalish that live in Arlathan forest. I thought Strife's clan live near/in Arlathan forest, considering that they have detailed map of it? However, I'm too curious how Davrin knows about that.
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 12, 2024 19:13:10 GMT
I will admit there is something interesting in this episode concerning Davrin. It may be nothing but this strikes me as odd: When Nadia says she is hunting the Dread Wolf, Davrin suddenly takes more interest and says the following: Okay, so those highlighted passages strike me as odd. How does he know this? Presumably word has reached him of what the Inquisitor discovered but are we to assume that no matter what race they were, the information was conveyed to the Dalish? If so, Davrin could not have been a Warden very long because he should have broken all ties with his clan when he did. Plus he speaks as though all those aspects are part of the legend of his people. What do you mean "how does he know this"? He doesn't seem to be operating under any knowledge he has from Inquisition; he appears to be mostly basing his information on what he learned from his clan - he even states this verbatim: there's a legend among my kind (the Dalish elves). And it's true that he speaks mostly of Fen'Harel how he is understood by the Dalish.
If information came from Inquisition, I'm not sure they'd portray Fen'Harel exactly how Dalish portray him, but as Inquisition knows him.
Also - I really don't understand the "he should have broken all ties with his clan when he did"????? What do you mean? Breaking the ties with the clan doesn't mean ignoring information or culture they've been raised in; just that they leave the clan, don't hold any position in it and don't return to it. It does. Lanaya calls Fen'Harel "He Who Hunts Alone" during the "nature of the Beast" quest in DAO. I'm not entirely sure what is so surprising that Davrin tells to two non-Dalish people what are the traditions of the Dalish, by telling them that "the Dalish do this or that". I find nothing controversial here, as I myself sometimes use this turn of phrase when describing something from my country to folks not from here.
Also - it's likely that Davrin knows only of his clan or clans near Arlathan and doesn't know if other clans do it.
We also can't assume that "the Dalish only just returned to Arlathan". It's more than likely the Arlathan Dalish just didn't keep contact with the Dalish from distant South, which is wholly expected. Same way, the Dalish on the South couldn't really have known the state of the Dalish clan near Arlathan. Nadia and Dreyden are quite literally hunting Fen'Harel. It's not about navigation or journey - it's about finding the Dread Wolf. I really don't see here the things that you see. Most of the things you consider suspicious I don't really think are that suspicious.
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Post by illuminated11 on Sept 12, 2024 23:41:24 GMT
Hmm yeah I'm definitely starting to get minor The Missing vibes from this, which is not a compliment. That said, like roselavellan mentioned, I'm mostly interested previewing the companions. Davrin's voice is smooth, and he seems fairly driven without necessarily being uptight.
For what it's worth, Solas has often been ruthless with his followers. RIP Felassan. He has serious trust issues and will absolutely bail on them in a heartbeat.
I really don't get the impression Nadia is an elf, by the way. Wouldn't someone have remarked on it by now? How did she get through Tevinter without once being referred to as a knife ear? Why would Davrin ask how she knows about Fen'Harel? I dunno, maybe it'll be made clear, but I'm not seeing it.
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 13, 2024 0:06:34 GMT
I really don't get the impression Nadia is an elf, by the way. Wouldn't someone have remarked on it by now? How did she get through Tevinter without once being referred to as a knife ear? Why would Davrin ask how she knows about Fen'Harel? I dunno, maybe it'll be made clear, but I'm not seeing it. I'd say they established quite firmly that she's not an elf, especially when she asked about an elf and the other characters were like "oh, so you have a thing for elves, haha". Also, I was wondering whether Drayden is a Qunari, but apparently not, because I don't think that creepy bastard would call Drayden 'little egg'.
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Post by illuminated11 on Sept 13, 2024 0:12:28 GMT
I really don't get the impression Nadia is an elf, by the way. Wouldn't someone have remarked on it by now? How did she get through Tevinter without once being referred to as a knife ear? Why would Davrin ask how she knows about Fen'Harel? I dunno, maybe it'll be made clear, but I'm not seeing it. I'd say they established quite firmly that she's not an elf, especially when she asked about an elf and the other characters were like "oh, so you have a thing for elves, haha". Also, I was wondering whether Drayden is a Qunari, but apparently not, because I don't think that creepy bastard would call Drayden 'little egg'. I couldn't tell if little egg thing about Drayden being trans or like... a hint Drayden is related to Solas somehow, lol. I found that whole sequence somewhat strange, although it was nice to see Nadia standing up for her friend. She was less irksome in this episode.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Sept 13, 2024 0:29:10 GMT
I'd say they established quite firmly that she's not an elf, especially when she asked about an elf and the other characters were like "oh, so you have a thing for elves, haha". Also, I was wondering whether Drayden is a Qunari, but apparently not, because I don't think that creepy bastard would call Drayden 'little egg'. I couldn't tell if little egg thing about Drayden being trans or like... a hint Drayden is related to Solas somehow, lol. I found that whole sequence somewhat strange, although it was nice to see Nadia standing up for her friend. She was less irksome in this episode. was it egg? I thought he said leg, and assumed that Drayden had attractive legs or something. Edit: checked the transcript and it does say egg, weird, but he uses it first when threatening him with getting "cracked" before being gross, so might just be a generic insulting name.
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Post by illuminated11 on Sept 13, 2024 0:32:23 GMT
I couldn't tell if little egg thing about Drayden being trans or like... a hint Drayden is related to Solas somehow, lol. I found that whole sequence somewhat strange, although it was nice to see Nadia standing up for her friend. She was less irksome in this episode. was it egg? I thought he said leg, and assumed that Drayden had attractive legs or something. I double checked the transcript, it is egg: HARIG: You stay out of this, little egg, before you get cracked. NADIA: You need to mind your tone. 12:15 HARIG: And you need to make it up to me one way... ...or the other. NADIA: I'm afraid I don't catch your drift. 12:21 HARIG: Either give me your coin or give me some alone time with this sweet little egg so I can- 12:27 (METAL SLICES) (PATRONS GASP) NADIA: The next words you speak may be your last. So choose carefully. 12:33 DRAYDEN: Nadia, I appreciate the sentiment, but he's not worth it. Put the dagger away and let's just go.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 13, 2024 7:18:30 GMT
I really don't get the impression Nadia is an elf, by the way. Wouldn't someone have remarked on it by now? How did she get through Tevinter without once being referred to as a knife ear? Why would Davrin ask how she knows about Fen'Harel? I dunno, maybe it'll be made clear, but I'm not seeing it. Perhaps I missed it, but did anyone specifically mention Davrin was an elf until he reacted to what she said about Fen'Harel? It is possible that "knife ear" is a southern insult directed at city elves. Much of the antagonism against them there is based off Chantry propaganda following the war with the Dales. That didn't affect Tevinter where the Altus generally believe that everyone is beneath them (apart from the Ambassadoria dwarves), not just elves and the main distinction in socieity is generally between mages and mundanes. However, earlier in the episode when she is saying she is looking for an elf, one of the people speaking to her questions whether she has a thing for elves, like she wasn't one herself, so that would suggest she wasn't one. What I found strange was that the bounty notices for Nadia had reached as far as the Anderfels. I realise bounty hunters are likely all over Thedas but even so. I suppose that shows the Eye must have been a really important artifact.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 13, 2024 7:41:20 GMT
...But why are you comparing this "secret hideout" in the Deep Roads to lighthouse? There's a marked difference between plot/mission-relevant places (or bolt-holes, like in case of the hidden Deep Roads mural in Trespasser) and the main base of operations. Why assume that in a time as chaotic as it appears to be any warding would even work? I was referring to the hideout in the Missing specifically. There was no indication that any strange magical anomalies were occurring there. If what was contained in that bolt hole was important, normal practice would be to Ward it against entry, not just by sentient creatures capable of reading but anything that might disturb and destroy the contents. However, given he did have a main base of operations in the Lighthouse, it would make sense to store anything of importance there and destroy the rest. Solas is not some wet behind the ears outlaw with no experience of throwing off pursuit. He was the leader of a rebellion against tyrants in ancient times, when the last thing you would want to do is leave any trace you had been there unless you wanted it to be found. He would certainly not have left any sort of clue as to where he might have gone next. Both the story in the Missing and the podcast make him out to be an idiot and incompetent unless all his actions, including making no effort to hide his tracks, were deliberate. That is not the Dread Wolf that was feared by his enemies and revered by his allies. That is not the ancient Trickster who outwitted an entire pantheon of gods. Thus, unless the writers have no appreciation of how stupid this seems, I can only conclude that everything he did in both stories was deliberate because he wanted these clues to be found, either because he was laying a false trail to keep them occupied whilst he was off elsewhere, or because he wanted those involved to follow the clues in order to further his plans. I make this assertion out of respect I have for Solas/Fen'Harel as a character based off what has been previously been revealed in game. However, if those new to Thedas were only basing their impression on the Missing, the podcast and what occurs in the prologue, you'd have to think he was not particularly clever or devious if he kept leaving clues to his whereabouts, making it easy to track him down and then leaving his own eluvian network open for all and sundry to use. I would remind people that it used to be necessary to have either a key or a password to gain access. Not any more apparently, you just walk right through.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 13, 2024 8:09:16 GMT
Must say this episode was the best of the group. Of course its not always easy to pay complete attention to things so events sometimes fall through the cracks but yeah this episode had everything perfect going on. Lots of good dialogue, acting, and sound effects utilized here. Lightning round Nadia still reminds me of Miriam, Drayden is stealing the show so glad she is sticking around, Davrin is pretty cool, and finally the music is really catching on. The bit where they were travelling was pretty cool. Only one thing for further lore purposes which probably let this story stand more on its own: Davrin did mention Andruil and the prayer of her guiding Nadia. Just a coincedence or pointing to something more conspiratorial?
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 13, 2024 8:33:10 GMT
Only one thing for further lore purposes which probably let this story stand more on its own: I'm going to consider the whole implications of those references by Davrin on the Crazy Theory thread.
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