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Post by sjsharp2010 on Sept 4, 2024 12:13:37 GMT
Is this a bad quality video or the game is just slightly blurry ? The nicest thing I can say about Youtube's video compression is that it isn't very flattering to the videos themselves. Yea hgenerall ywhen playin ggames things look muc hbetter in person.Things never look tha great throug hyoutube even games like Fifa/FC at times can look a littl eoff.
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Post by Sartoz on Sept 4, 2024 12:19:59 GMT
I admit that I've not read 11 pages of comments on this thread, at work so can't slack off too long - so apologies if it was answered elsewhere, but how 'spoilerish' is this video?
Depends who answers. To some the sky is falling To others meh.. others still.... what spoilers?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Sept 4, 2024 12:21:16 GMT
Ngl, the way they decided to showcase mage was really weird. In Q&A Corinne said that it's possible to play without a tank in your team, but you need to plan for it and they clearly didn't in the the video. They even had Neve in the party but i don't think they used her time slow ability, which was mentioned in Q&A? They also didn't use any runes, which is very odd. Like, Corinne (i think it was her who played) spent 60% of the time dodging and trying to survive rather than attacking the enemies. Another thing is that the Darkspawn is resistance to necro damage, so Bioware decided to bring Rook who dealt necro damage for the most part  Honestly, after the warrior showcase which was really good, i'm completely baffled by this one. Yeah i tseems the ylike showing us how no tto play the gam erather nhow to pla yit. A tleas t the warrior gamepla yshowed things off bette rthqan hte mag eon edid as I woul dhav elikel yhad Taash wi hme o rDavrin I wouldn' thav ebrough t 2 ranged characters a tleast on eof them woul dhav estayed home. I suppose you could ge ta way wi thi tif you'er an experienced player an dwantt otry something different as tha tca nb efun bu tit clearly wasn' tworking here. You d oneed t ob emore prepared t odo that if you'er goin gt oand I don't think the ywere here
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Post by Sartoz on Sept 4, 2024 12:24:41 GMT
I think this is a problem of Frostbite and not of BG3 spoilt us. I think in the new ME on a different engin it will get better. Animation quality has nothing to do with the graphics engine, in this case Frostbite. Models and animations are usually created using third party tools like 3ds Max or Maya and then exported to the graphics engine. If the looks and animations aren't good it's all on the art department, it's not a software failure of some kind.
The buck stops at Bio, regardless..... and the animation is a bit off... nothing earth shattering. I'd think nothing of it after playing the game for an hr or two.
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Post by Sartoz on Sept 4, 2024 12:26:32 GMT
Is this a bad quality video or the game is just slightly blurry ? The nicest thing I can say about Youtube's video compression is that it isn't very flattering to the videos themselves.
LOL! You saying it's Youtube's fault?
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 4, 2024 12:30:56 GMT
Well, I'm glad the UI at least is customizable. It's looking like a *very* busy (visually) game across the board, for all that they've streamlined. From the UI, ability wheel, to icons artwork and overkill VFX... honey, that battle field was a clusterduck. Chaos. You're looking at three seizures per gaming session. Massive downgrade coming from DAI's more clean and tasteful visual elements. There *is* such a thing as too much, turns out... I actually quite like it, and find it much more to my taste than Inquisition UI (and font choice for it) - if I was designing UI elements for a fantasy game, the decorative side of it would probably look about the same. Whoever's done it has similar aesthetic sense to mine, and I actually enjoy the fact that they didn't go full minimalism - they keep the layout and color scheme fairly simple, while putting some love even to loading screen icons  (also, the font is so much better) With that said, I'm curious what we'd be able to customize? Corinne mentioned that even the healthbar can be hidden.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Sept 4, 2024 12:33:42 GMT
The nicest thing I can say about Youtube's video compression is that it isn't very flattering to the videos themselves.
LOL! You saying it's Youtube's fault?
In som ecases it is though I'v eplayed gamestha tlook gorgeous when playing in person bu twatchin git on youtube things cabn look somewhat off.
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Post by Sartoz on Sept 4, 2024 12:38:43 GMT
Yeah youtube compression issues are notorious. People are also saying they played on PS5 which might've been a factor, not sure.
I'm expecting a demo played on a PC... real soon now.
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Post by Reznore on Sept 4, 2024 12:42:48 GMT
I'm not sure but it feels like the video on IGN site is better ? Seems sharper.
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Post by mattjamho on Sept 4, 2024 12:45:16 GMT
Overall it looks great, only a few things that I don’t think worked as well as they could:
1. I don’t think this was the wisest party setup to showcase mage combat with. Hard to show off how cool ranged casting can look while being mobbed in melee range, feels like they should have had a warrior in there to aggro the enemies more.
2. That Quanri Rook just looked off, I’m assuming you can make great looking quanri closer to what we’ve seen before.
Otherwise really looking forward to seeing more.
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Post by Sartoz on Sept 4, 2024 12:45:18 GMT
Ngl, the way they decided to showcase mage was really weird. In Q&A Corinne said that it's possible to play without a tank in your team, but you need to plan for it and they clearly didn't in the the video. They even had Neve in the party but i don't think they used her time slow ability, which was mentioned in Q&A? They also didn't use any runes, which is very odd. Like, Corinne (i think it was her who played) spent 60% of the time dodging and trying to survive rather than attacking the enemies. Another thing is that the Darkspawn is resistance to necro damage, so Bioware decided to bring Rook who dealt necro damage for the most part Honestly, after the warrior showcase which was really good, i'm completely baffled by this one. I do half wonder how much of this might have been deliberate. Given that one of the objectives here was to clearly show off that companions could revive you even after you died. Epler did make the comment of 'look at how dangerous this area is!' to...which I am sure it is but I also got the feeling, especially since Corinne's Rook was downed, that they were playing on a lesser difficulty to so they could talk and give commentary while playing the game. Not everyone is good at that believe me. So I think they basically went unoptomized so they could show off things that they wanted to while also still playing on an easy difficulty...which actually did look pretty easy given how close Corinne was to death a lot of times but was finished off just once. Edit: Plus keep in mind a lot of people have been asking given the new systems and companion synergies just how much you have to min/ max with this game in order to achieve results and the obvious answer is not alot. They deliberatley didn't optomize themselves and didn't have an optomized party set up and didn't take tactical options we've already seen and seen explained just to show what is possible with this game, at least on lower difficulties.
Explain the long range nonsense Corrine & co were talking about. Clearly it did not exist with the range setup.... unless Bio's definition of long range is just beyond the length of a longsword.
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 4, 2024 12:50:57 GMT
It seems that the power of factions needs much grinding. At 9:19, rook spent much resources to raise 50 power, while the maximum power is 3029. Why do you assume we'll need much grinding, when we don't know the drop rate yet?
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Post by azarhal on Sept 4, 2024 12:56:09 GMT
I'm not sure but it feels like the video on IGN site is better ? Seems sharper. Different player app. Looks like youtube compression is just turning everything blurry.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Sept 4, 2024 12:57:28 GMT
Ngl, the way they decided to showcase mage was really weird. In Q&A Corinne said that it's possible to play without a tank in your team, but you need to plan for it and they clearly didn't in the the video. They even had Neve in the party but i don't think they used her time slow ability, which was mentioned in Q&A? They also didn't use any runes, which is very odd. Like, Corinne (i think it was her who played) spent 60% of the time dodging and trying to survive rather than attacking the enemies. Another thing is that the Darkspawn is resistance to necro damage, so Bioware decided to bring Rook who dealt necro damage for the most part Honestly, after the warrior showcase which was really good, i'm completely baffled by this one. Yea hI think it's largely down t othe fac t the ydidn' thav ethe mos toptimized build an dsquad setup. Warrio rRook on the othe rhand other than no thaving a mage with them looked fine but tbh in th ewarrio rgasmepla ybased on ho wthey were fighting there it didn' tlook like the yneeded one. I tdefinitel looked lik ethe yneeded a warrior here though as they were getting their ass kicked
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Post by apollexander on Sept 4, 2024 13:21:19 GMT
It seems that the power of factions needs much grinding. At 9:19, rook spent much resources to raise 50 power, while the maximum power is 3029. Why do you assume we'll need much grinding, when we don't know the drop rate yet? Oh, I make assumptions based on what I see in the trailer. Is making assumption unacceptable in a forum?
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Post by azarhal on Sept 4, 2024 14:06:42 GMT
There is so many little secrets in that video. The area where we go to take the eluvian to the Hossberg wetlands, there are 4 Eluvians there and one cleary point to a Dwarven area: |
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 4, 2024 14:08:01 GMT
Why do you assume we'll need much grinding, when we don't know the drop rate yet? Oh, I make assumptions based on what I see in the trailer. Is making assumption unacceptable in a forum? It’s not - just like it’s not unacceptable to question an assumption and ask what is it based on. That’s how forums work. And it appears to be based on a number we saw, without even knowing how it’s gathered, or what’s its drop rate. |
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 4, 2024 14:09:17 GMT
There is so many little secrets in that video. The area where we go to take the eluvian to the Hossberg wetlands, there are 4 Eluvians there and one cleary point to a Dwarven area: I think I also saw an entrance to some dungeon? Or at least it seemed that way. |
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Post by flyingovertrout on Sept 4, 2024 14:24:12 GMT
The only thing that bothers me is Rook going through people like he's Patrick Swayze. Hope that's just a bug that will get day 1 patched.  |
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Post by Reznore on Sept 4, 2024 14:27:02 GMT
Big Story spoiler beware I assume there's no way to save Weisshaupt and there's no branching path ?
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 4, 2024 14:42:33 GMT
Yep, it doesn't sound good. I think we probably end up evacuating the place even if we do manage to stem the tide temporarily by our actions. Unless, of course, it was an either/or situation so by not going there immediately we saved somewhere else but it results in the fall of Weisshaupt.
I noticed that the storekeeper had a young girl with him whom I think is the same one Rook and Davrin are seen escorting through a building pursued by darkspawn in the release day trailer. Perhaps we escort her to safety when it is clear Weisshaupt is lost.
It is clearly linked to the Gloom Watcher or whatever it was called and we seem to have encountered it before the latest mission.
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Post by Reznore on Sept 4, 2024 14:50:09 GMT
Yep, it doesn't sound good. I think we probably end up evacuating the place even if we do manage to stem the tide temporarily by our actions. Unless, of course, it was an either/or situation so by not going there immediately we saved somewhere else but it results in the fall of Weisshaupt.
I noticed that the storekeeper had a young girl with him whom I think is the same one Rook and Davrin are seen escorting through a building pursued by darkspawn in the release day trailer. Perhaps we escort her to safety when it is clear Weisshaupt is lost.
It is clearly linked to the Gloom Watcher or whatever it was called and we seem to have encountered it before the latest mission. There's Davrin quest with the girl. Perhaps the broken sword we bring back is from a Gloom Watcher victim.
But there's also the siege of Weisshaupt, by Ghil and her dragon. Sounds like she succeeded.
Harding talks about WhateverName Pass, a place who also "fell".
Sounds like the Evanuris are busy destructive little bees.
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Post by Little Bengel on Sept 4, 2024 14:57:03 GMT
The nicest thing I can say about Youtube's video compression is that it isn't very flattering to the videos themselves.
LOL! You saying it's Youtube's fault?
It's not the first game I've seen where streams or youtube videos feature shit compression that makes it look worse.
Not the first, not the second, not the third.
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Post by azarhal on Sept 4, 2024 14:57:13 GMT
The only thing that bothers me is Rook going through people like he's Patrick Swayze. Hope that's just a bug that will get day 1 patched.  Looks like they removed body collisions to avoid body blocking since we can't control companions anymore to move them out of the way. Something that could happen in all 3 previous DA games. And that means combat works kind like GW2 combat. Atually, the gameplay is like the wierd child of AC Valhalla and GW2 to me.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 4, 2024 14:58:24 GMT
A couple of interesting things I noted concerning the items you can improve at the store. There is the Griffon's Talon a legendary longsword and something called Urthemiel's Ash, which is an elemental orb but made from the knot of a Ferelden oak tree! That surprised me as I thought orbs would be made from metal, stone or some rare crystal, not wood. Also, I assume only crafted subsequent to the 5th Blight because of the connection to Ferelden.
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