Act 3 Story Discussion (including end of game) [Spoilers]

like the sixth sense but really stupid. Last time I watched that movie was a while ago but I'm pretty sure all the interaction with Bruce that is not the boy only seems like an interaction and is not really an interaction.

But I already came across instances where both rook and Harding are in Varric's room and Varric talks to Harding.

That on addition to the complete dumb idea that no one will mention varric is dead for the whole time the Veilguard is a thing.

it's pretty much the same as ME2 but poorly written. The ones you gain their loyalty and you put in a position that suit them in the final battle survive.

At least one dies no matter what and from what I've seen it's Darvin

It's been long enough that I'll reiterate.

The epilogue is the worst thing to happen to the series.

I could get over everything else that's wrong with Veilguard but this is 100% inexcusable.

It doesn't have to be Davrin. It can be Harding instead. So, either you choose the awakened dwarf or the Grey Warden with one of the last surviving griffons, because Assan dies too. Wonderful! It is also so contrived because the best assassin in Thedas misses his mark again.    I don't mind companions dying if it makes sense and it isn't totally contrived.   It was back to the bad old days of BG2 when no matter what time you set out to fight the vampires, you always arrived at the Graveyard after dark, so your LI gets kidnapped and then later killed.   However, at least with that story you did have the option to revive them.  

That choice against Ghilan'nain was terrible because it always results in someone's death no matter what you did before that.   That wasn't like ME2.   If you did all the companion quests, if you upgraded the Normandy and then you chose the right person for the job, everyone survived.   That was satisfying particularly when I learned after doing the suicide mission that it could go badly wrong if you failed with respect to any one of those conditions.  

It was what I was expecting in DAI.   All that collecting all the elf root and other materials to upgrade Skyhold would have really meant something if failure to do so had adverse consequences.   However, when I complained about it at the time, the ending to DAV was not what I was suggesting they should replace it with.

To be honest, I also think they relied too much on cinematic cut scenes to tell the story and not enough on meaningful scenarios and battles.   To date the best ending of the series for me was DAO after I had turned down Morrigan.   The whole sequence from King Alistair making the rousing Prince Hal speech, to the battle at the gates and they being cheered on as we went further into city.   I guessed that Riorden wouldn't make it but when I saw him go down, I really felt the slumped shoulders they put on the Warden at seeing it.   From then on I assumed I was fighting my way across the city to my death.   Then after downing the Arch-demon Alistair steps up and offers to take the final blow for the sake of friendship.   I'd made him king but he never wanted it and he said he would make a lousy king, which to be honest based off the evidence was probably true.   So I let him do the noble thing and sacrifice himself for his people and his country.    That ending just blew me away.    Not all sunshine and rainbows and I felt the sadness for my friend, yet somehow it did seem fitting.  No matter what they have done with the franchise, that ending will always stay with me.

I'm so glad I didn't buy DAV and play it because after spending so many hours I would have been really disappointed at the way their narrative played out.

I kind of like It, as It In no way says how much they are Involved. Maybe their agents whispered the thaig location to Bartrand. Maybe Arl Rendon Howe was their agent and Influenced Loghain. Maybe the agents that gave the orb to Corypheus worked for the Executors undercover, while working for Solas as well. Its open for Interpretation, thats why I don't mind.