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Post by Milady on Nov 13, 2016 19:02:18 GMT
He said that it was based on a true story.
Somehow that makes me think about Europe colonizing America? Aka the Spaniards, English and the Dutch. (before that the Vikings)
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Post by Natashina on Nov 13, 2016 22:14:14 GMT
Mac Walters seems like a genuinely nice guy. I liked his sense of humor. Anyway, a few things that stood out.
--A trilogy isn't confirmed. Yet I have to ask, was Origins or ME1 stated to be the start of a trilogy for DA and ME? I agree with other posters that say that BioWare is just being cautious right now. Considering how ME3 went down with some very angry fans, I think they are doing the right thing and playing it by ear.
--DLC companions: That should have been a no right there. The only reason why I can see that happening is if they didn't have enough time prior to launch to finish the character. Shale (DA:O,) Sebastian (DA2) and Javik are all results of this. I just hope they don't make me pay for it. I can understand needing a Day One DLC to get the character in, but I don't want to pay for it. I've already paid for the game, so I don't want to pay for their delay this time.
Otherwise, it's looking pretty good. My curiosity is piqued again.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 13, 2016 23:18:30 GMT
Did they volunteer for this mission? - Yes. Except that one guy. LOL One of contractors building the Hyperion mistook a cryopod for a regular sleeping bunk... (Seriously Cole, didn't you learn not to sleep on the job during the attack on Eden Prime?) Not Cole, Powell, but definitely the right guy. Who else could it be? He was just looking to grab 40 winks...
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 13, 2016 23:31:45 GMT
Mac Walters seems like a genuinely nice guy. I liked his sense of humor. Anyway, a few things that stood out. --A trilogy isn't confirmed. Yet I have to ask, was Origins or ME1 stated to be the start of a trilogy for DA and ME? I agree with other posters that say that BioWare is just being cautious right now. Considering how ME3 went down with some very angry fans, I think they are doing the right thing and playing it by ear. --DLC companions: That should have been a no right there. The only reason why I can see that happening is if they didn't have enough time prior to launch to finish the character. Shale (DA:O,) Sebastian (DA2) and Javik are all results of this. I just hope they don't make me pay for it. I can understand needing a Day One DLC to get the character in, but I don't want to pay for it. I've already paid for the game, so I don't want to pay for their delay this time. Otherwise, it's looking pretty good. My curiosity is piqued again. I disagree about Javik being put in as DLC because of being initially unfinished. Javik felt like a cash grab. I'm not one to generally say that, but he really did. He was intricately woven throughout the plot. I'm pretty sure the choice to make him paid DLC was a financial one. Otherwise, I agree with the above. I made a post concerning my feelings about Mac in the Twitter thread. He's a great guy, and has always handled himself with great dignity under harsh, largely unwarranted criticism from the social media-enabled fanbase. That shows his character. I'm glad he's still around, making sure the newbies get it right.
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 13, 2016 23:43:11 GMT
I agree with Element Zero. We also know from the leak his role was supposed to be much bigger and related to the Crucible plot. I'm not sure if the role change was because of him becoming a dlc, but it sure made it easier cutting him from the main game.
I think Walter is basically (maybe even officially by now) the lead writer of MEA/ME serie, other then the Creative Director.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 13, 2016 23:47:19 GMT
Javik was part of the main game until he was cut and put in a dlc.
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Post by pdusen on Nov 13, 2016 23:48:04 GMT
I disagree about Javik being put in as DLC because of being initially unfinished. Javik felt like a cash grab. I'm not one to generally say that, but he really did. He was intricately woven throughout the plot. He really wasn't at all, in his final form. Nearly all of his content is isolated from the rest of the game. Remove him and the game really isn't affected.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 13, 2016 23:52:51 GMT
I disagree about Javik being put in as DLC because of being initially unfinished. Javik felt like a cash grab. I'm not one to generally say that, but he really did. He was intricately woven throughout the plot. He really wasn't at all, in his final form. Nearly all of his content is isolated from the rest of the game. Remove him and the game really isn't affected. I could say the same thing about James and Garrus. He had content written for nearly every mission in the game. (He was fully integrated into everything post-Palaven.) It was clear that he was ready by launch.
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Post by pdusen on Nov 14, 2016 0:49:39 GMT
He really wasn't at all, in his final form. Nearly all of his content is isolated from the rest of the game. Remove him and the game really isn't affected. I could say the same thing about James and Garrus. He had content written for nearly every mission in the game. (He was fully integrated into everything post-Palaven.) It was clear that he was ready by launch. Well sure, he was ready by day one, but that's a far cry from being ready by certification, or even by going gold.
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Post by Natashina on Nov 14, 2016 1:55:20 GMT
I disagree about Javik being put in as DLC because of being initially unfinished. Javik felt like a cash grab. I'm not one to generally say that, but he really did. He was intricately woven throughout the plot. He really wasn't at all, in his final form. Nearly all of his content is isolated from the rest of the game. Remove him and the game really isn't affected. That sounds like my experience. The first time I finished ME3 (in late May of 2014,) I didn't have Javik's DLC. I really wasn't missing anything. I picked it up and replayed ME3 with him in September of that year. I enjoy the flavor and perspective that Javik brings, but I didn't feel like the game was affected. Thessia is really the only place where I felt he added to the overall plot imho.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 14, 2016 3:29:20 GMT
He really wasn't at all, in his final form. Nearly all of his content is isolated from the rest of the game. Remove him and the game really isn't affected. That sounds like my experience. The first time I finished ME3 (in late May of 2014,) I didn't have Javik's DLC. I really wasn't missing anything. I picked it up and replayed ME3 with him in September of that year. I enjoy the flavor and perspective that Javik brings, but I didn't feel like the game was affected. Thessia is really the only place where I felt he added to the overall plot imho. I've never played the game without him, and that's likely coloring my perspective. He's no more essential than James or Garrus, as I mentioned above; but he is every bit as integrated into the game as either of them. Before the rewrite he was even more essential to the plot. Did this lead to his content being rewritten late in the process, and thus his being made DLC? I doubt it, since the whole story would've needed massive rewrites had this been the case. Also, they could've made him free DLC, had it been a matter of timing. I firmly believe the "Prothean companion" as Day 1 DLC was a cash grab. I'd bought the Collector's Edition, anyway, so I'd paid my luxury tax up front for that one.
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Post by Addictress on Nov 14, 2016 3:40:13 GMT
Companion's can't die? That takes away some of the tension. Surprised they revealed that. This the hell? :/
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Post by Addictress on Nov 14, 2016 3:41:53 GMT
This shit, pisses me off! No companion deaths. No continuous story. No continuous story basically = pointless loading saved games. No continuous story? I didn't hear that in the interview. Where does he say that? What does continuous story mean? WHAT IS IT???
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Post by General Aetius on Nov 14, 2016 3:45:25 GMT
Are we expected to believe any of this horseshit?
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Post by Addictress on Nov 14, 2016 3:46:36 GMT
I'm still very skeptical of the game. Knowing that no squaddies can die took it down one more notch. The big worry I have after the trailer and all that, is that I can't figure out where the drama in the game is going to be. I know where it CAN be, which is the first contact with other species, if the villain is good or if there's interpersonal conflicts aboard the arcs or perhaps believable family drama for the twins and their dad or even their yet unknown mom... but the thing is that neither the trailer nor the other released content really hints at any dramatic hook for the narrative, so it's just hard to get excited for anything but the "impressive" visuals or the novelty of having new races and whatnot. I'm not complaining -- I didn't know the dramatic hook for ME1 either until I played it, but it was very clear for ME2 and ME3 that Shepard's death or the Reaper war was going to stir up the pot in the plot (rhyme!) and with DA:I we at least knew there was this demonic rift and the goal was to close that (which happened before the plot even thickened lol). Dramaturgy was the biggest issue with DA:I, partly because of it's open-world elements taking up so much of the game-design. I feel there's plenty of reason to be skeptical about Andromeda for the same reasons, when they haven't exactly shown us yet what it is we should be so excited for. Reblog for truth. Mac's favorite installment was Mass Effect 2 so I'm surprised his team isn't aware of the importance of setting up proper drama and tension in a narrative.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 14, 2016 3:48:04 GMT
This shit, pisses me off! No companion deaths. No continuous story. No continuous story basically = pointless loading saved games. No continuous story? I didn't hear that in the interview. Where does he say that? What does continuous story mean? WHAT IS IT??? It's an overreaction. Zip had too much ryncol. Mac said that MEA is a stand alone story, complete in its own right. They did not design it as part one of a trilogy, though sequels haven't been ruled out as a possibility. Basically, they are approaching this conservatively. You can't blame them, after ME3. As to the "no companion deaths" thing, I think he just got blindsided by the question while being completely honest. I bet he wouldn't mind getting a do-over on that one. He did say that characters could die, just not squaddies.
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Post by TheChosenOne on Nov 14, 2016 3:55:13 GMT
No continuous story? I didn't hear that in the interview. Where does he say that? What does continuous story mean? WHAT IS IT??? It's an overreaction. Zip had too much ryncol. Mac said that MEA is a stand alone story, complete in its own right. They did not design it as part one of a trilogy, though sequels haven't been ruled out as a possibility. Basically, they are approaching this conservatively. You can't blame them, after ME3. As to the "no companion deaths" thing, I think he just got blindsided by the question while being completely honest. I bet he wouldn't mind getting a do-over on that one. He did say that characters could die, just not squaddies. So ME is taking the DA route? Not sure if i like that...... One of the things I like most about the OT was how the story was branched out. DA is the story about Thedas so the one story per game makes sense while ME was the story of Shepard. I hope it's just Bioware just being cautious after 3. If I wanted to play DA I would play DA :/
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 14, 2016 4:03:46 GMT
It's an overreaction. Zip had too much ryncol. Mac said that MEA is a stand alone story, complete in its own right. They did not design it as part one of a trilogy, though sequels haven't been ruled out as a possibility. Basically, they are approaching this conservatively. You can't blame them, after ME3. As to the "no companion deaths" thing, I think he just got blindsided by the question while being completely honest. I bet he wouldn't mind getting a do-over on that one. He did say that characters could die, just not squaddies. So ME is taking the DA route? Not sure if i like that...... One of the things I like most about the OT was how the story was branched out. DA is the story about Thedas so the one story per game makes sense while ME was the story of Shepard. I hope it's just Bioware just being cautious after 3. If I wanted to play DA I would play DA :/ They haven't yet decided. He said that this story is self-contained, but that they could make a sequel if they wished. When asked if we would be importing saves from MEA into a new ME game, he repeated that this hadn't been determined. I think they are very much focused on getting MEA finished and seeing how the IP performs. This is a big game with four tie-in novels penned by high-profile authors. That indicates that it's still well regarded. I think they just need time to plot the course. The original trilogy suffered from poor planning, so I'm in favor of a more cautious approach.
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Post by TheChosenOne on Nov 14, 2016 4:10:01 GMT
So ME is taking the DA route? Not sure if i like that...... One of the things I like most about the OT was how the story was branched out. DA is the story about Thedas so the one story per game makes sense while ME was the story of Shepard. I hope it's just Bioware just being cautious after 3. If I wanted to play DA I would play DA :/ They haven't yet decided. He said that this story is self-contained, but that they could make a sequel if they wished. When asked if we would be importing saves from MEA into a new ME game, he repeated that this hadn't been determined. I think they are very much focused on getting MEA finished and seeing how the IP performs. This is a big game with four tie-in novels penned by high-profile authors. That indicates that it's still well regarded. I think they just need time to plot the course. The original trilogy suffered from poor planning, so I'm in favor of a more cautious approach. Nothing wrong with being cautious. Just hope they'll pull this off. ME:A already has a bad foot with me with that dumb excuse they left BEFORE 3 with Reapers not being the cause. Smh
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