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Post by Iakus on Nov 10, 2016 1:42:52 GMT
Well, at least tech being inconsistent with the lore is in itself consistent with the franchise. And that's the saddest fact of all...
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Post by Ahriman on Nov 10, 2016 7:41:11 GMT
BTW Is 2176 year apparently gone from MEA timeline now? Are they retconning their retcon? What's going on?
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Post by Xerxes52 on Nov 10, 2016 9:21:55 GMT
Personally, I wouldn't mention or bring up Cerberus at all in ME:A. However when you're playing the game, there will be small things: A small Cerberus logo on a laptop or space crate, white/gold/black color schemes in some areas, some armor or equipment with Cerberus-like designs, etc. Just very minor hints that something is off.
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Post by The Twilight God on Nov 11, 2016 20:07:38 GMT
BTW Is 2176 year apparently gone from MEA timeline now? Are they retconning their retcon? What's going on? Huh?
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Post by shechinah on Nov 11, 2016 20:38:31 GMT
BTW Is 2176 year apparently gone from MEA timeline now? Are they retconning their retcon? What's going on? Oh, it hasn't been retconned. We just no longer talk about it.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Nov 12, 2016 3:45:12 GMT
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Nov 12, 2016 5:32:10 GMT
Not a good start for ME:A's story when you create massive plot holes in it before it is even released.
There are more then enough ways to be vague enough not to be forced to pick an official canon ending to ME Trilogy. And yet have it's logical place after the trilogy to make the extra galactic trip logical.
A scroll text opening like in ME 1 saying something like:
2186 the galaxy faced a threat far beyond their technological capabilities. The war cost billions of lives but eventually it was ended. The races of the galaxy banded together to rebuild the galaxy. Utilizing the technology of the Reapers the galaxy advanced far beyond their imaginations. Using their new advanced technology the races of the galaxy banded together to form the Andromeda Initiative. It's goal to send colonists distances never before attempted by any known race. To send them to an entirely new galaxy.....
-Cut scene showing the Ark flying by-
Andromeda
All 3 endings support that because in all 3 the potential to learn from the Reapers is there. Be it salvaging the technology from their broken hulls, to having it given to them by AI Shep or Synthesis Reapers. The glowing from Synthesis ending can just be called an exaggeration to show the change that took place. The only thing they would have to compromise on would possibly being Genophage being cured. To explain the Krogans still being around. And even then that can be explained away by the Krogan willingly accepting a genetic alteration that out right reduces the number of young produced. Rather then having thousands of miscarriages a Krogan female now only gives birth to 2 or 3 at a time.
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Post by theflyingzamboni on Nov 12, 2016 6:23:30 GMT
Not a good start for ME:A's story when you create massive plot holes in it before it is even released. There are more then enough ways to be vague enough not to be forced to pick an official canon ending to ME Trilogy. And yet have it's logical place after the trilogy to make the extra galactic trip logical. A scroll text opening like in ME 1 saying something like: 2186 the galaxy faced a threat far beyond their technological capabilities. The war cost billions of lives but eventually it was ended. The races of the galaxy banded together to rebuild the galaxy. Utilizing the technology of the Reapers the galaxy advanced far beyond their imaginations. Using their new advanced technology the races of the galaxy banded together to form the Andromeda Initiative. It's goal to send colonists distances never before attempted by any known race. To send them to an entirely new galaxy..... -Cut scene showing the Ark flying by- Andromeda All 3 endings support that because in all 3 the potential to learn from the Reapers is there. Be it salvaging the technology from their broken hulls, to having it given to them by AI Shep or Synthesis Reapers. The glowing from Synthesis ending can just be called an exaggeration to show the change that took place. The only thing they would have to compromise on would possibly being Genophage being cured. To explain the Krogans still being around. And even then that can be explained away by the Krogan willingly accepting a genetic alteration that out right reduces the number of young produced. Rather then having thousands of miscarriages a Krogan female now only gives birth to 2 or 3 at a time. That would present immediate problems, which have been discussed often. Besides the problem of accounting for the Genophage, they would also have to cut off the possibility of including Quarians, because they could be extinct. And even if they were willing to do that, they'd have to have characters acknowledge major events from the trilogy in conversation, which would require multiple lines to account for all choices, adding to the budget. You want to talk about plot holes, imagine if the Reaper War had happened before they left, and no one ever spoke of it. That's the only way they'd be able to avoid making something canon without consuming their word budget on all those dialogue variants and references. Sure, you could be vague, but it would be terrible. Also, the glowing synthesis textures. Basically, pre-Reaper War remains, as it has always been, the best way to continue the series.
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Post by vit246 on Nov 12, 2016 7:23:12 GMT
Damn it what is so great about Cerberus that Bioware has to keep involving it in EVERYTHING? In ME1, they were fine as a rogue black ops with limited resources and on the verge of being crippled by Shepard. In ME2, they have infinite money and better tech than everyone else and they have connections to everything. In ME3 they are a galactic evil empire with a military on par with the combined Council Races. All in just 30 years they are better than alien races who had a headstart of thousands of years. Creativity is dead.
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Post by DannyC_pt on Nov 12, 2016 8:44:34 GMT
Two points.
First, BioWare would be out of their minds if they would transfer any of the choices of ME3 to Andromeda. It was bad enough that we got to discuss destroy-vs-control-vs-synthesis for years, as if it had ever been of any concern while we were playing the trilogy (and having fun). Now, they would carry that discussion for the years to come? Obviously, no. Lets face it, BioWare is running away from it all, 2.5 million light years away and 600 years into the future, to be precise. So, there's your answer.
Second, it's too much speculation to say that Cerberus is behind it all. It's much more likely that BioWare is purposefully being misleading about the context of the Andromeda Initiative, for obvious storytelling reasons.
Now, personally, I would have preferred if BioWare would just choose a canon ending and keep moving forward. But maybe we should accept Andromeda as a side-tour. Lets just give it a chance and see where it takes us...
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Nov 12, 2016 14:26:05 GMT
Not a good start for ME:A's story when you create massive plot holes in it before it is even released. There are more then enough ways to be vague enough not to be forced to pick an official canon ending to ME Trilogy. And yet have it's logical place after the trilogy to make the extra galactic trip logical. A scroll text opening like in ME 1 saying something like: 2186 the galaxy faced a threat far beyond their technological capabilities. The war cost billions of lives but eventually it was ended. The races of the galaxy banded together to rebuild the galaxy. Utilizing the technology of the Reapers the galaxy advanced far beyond their imaginations. Using their new advanced technology the races of the galaxy banded together to form the Andromeda Initiative. It's goal to send colonists distances never before attempted by any known race. To send them to an entirely new galaxy..... -Cut scene showing the Ark flying by- Andromeda All 3 endings support that because in all 3 the potential to learn from the Reapers is there. Be it salvaging the technology from their broken hulls, to having it given to them by AI Shep or Synthesis Reapers. The glowing from Synthesis ending can just be called an exaggeration to show the change that took place. The only thing they would have to compromise on would possibly being Genophage being cured. To explain the Krogans still being around. And even then that can be explained away by the Krogan willingly accepting a genetic alteration that out right reduces the number of young produced. Rather then having thousands of miscarriages a Krogan female now only gives birth to 2 or 3 at a time. That would present immediate problems, which have been discussed often. Besides the problem of accounting for the Genophage, they would also have to cut off the possibility of including Quarians, because they could be extinct. And even if they were willing to do that, they'd have to have characters acknowledge major events from the trilogy in conversation, which would require multiple lines to account for all choices, adding to the budget. You want to talk about plot holes, imagine if the Reaper War had happened before they left, and no one ever spoke of it. That's the only way they'd be able to avoid making something canon without consuming their word budget on all those dialogue variants and references. Sure, you could be vague, but it would be terrible. Also, the glowing synthesis textures. Basically, pre-Reaper War remains, as it has always been, the best way to continue the series. So you didn't actually read what I said did you? As for Quarian 2 out of 3 endings at Rannoch leaves them alive. So no specific ending is picked.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 14:27:09 GMT
Cerberus was itself "privately funded" ... so, there are people/organizations in the galaxy that have enough money to just donate some of it to Cerberus. There is nothing that precludes there being organizations out there - both human and multi-species that have more money than even Cerberus did. We did not even scratch the surface of what sort of resources an entire galaxy filled with billions and billions of people (as described in the Codices) might have... stuff that was not mentioned in any of the previous three games simply because the percentage of those billions and billions of people that we had contact with in those 3 games was astronomically small.
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 12, 2016 15:26:09 GMT
gothpunkboy89 That'd still be a retcon, and the Synthetic path can't be in general be discounted as something minimal with no consequences. Control itself varies greatly depending on the morality system. And the Reapers' help in Control and Synthesis lead to a faster development compared to Destroy. Not to mention Reapers would definitely travel to Andromeda at least with Synthesis, probably Control as well. Plotholes,handwaving and retcons would've happened in your idea as well. It wasn't necessarily better at all.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Nov 12, 2016 15:56:31 GMT
gothpunkboy89 That'd still be a retcon, and the Synthetic path can't be in general be discounted as something minimal with no consequences. Control itself varies greatly depending on the morality system. And the Reapers' help in Control and Synthesis lead to a faster development compared to Destroy. Not to mention Reapers would definitely travel to Andromeda at least with Synthesis, probably Control as well. Plotholes,handwaving and retcons would've happened in your idea as well. It wasn't necessarily better at all. There is bad hand waving and good hand waving. Good hand waving is allowing the story to happen and advance logically by putting the Reaper War hundreds of years in the past at the launch of the ships. Then having them awaken 600 years in the future. Bad hand waving is having a private person spending trillions of credits, recruiting thousands of people. To be sent on a one way 600 year journey to colonize another galaxy for resources when their current galaxy isn't even fully explored or colonized yet. Even if they found massive supplies of resources they lack the technology to do anything but takes 1,200 years for a round trip. They don't even conceivably understand Mass Rely systems enough to be able to construct even a proto type of one that would allow the distance and time to be halved at least. There is some hand waving but not any plot holes or retcons. Because even the ME codex post Rannoch says the Quarians are scattered and in a super small population that they are effectively wiped out. That leaves plenty of wiggle room for the Quarians to exist in Andromeda as either the final population of them seeking a new home in another galaxy. Or a portion of the race that survived going to explore. The same with Krogan. The Genophage didn't prevent them from giving birth just caused 1 viable birth for every 1000 nonviable ones. All you need is a small portion of Krogan who didn't support either Wrev or Wrex in the war to allow them to exist. The just mumble something about the Krogan being genetically altered to keep their reproduction rate at an acceptable level by limiting how many young they give birth to at a time. Rather then allowing them to give birth to 1,000s at a time but only 1 being viable. They now only give birth to 1 or 2 young at a time every year or so.
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Nov 12, 2016 18:09:58 GMT
Two points. First, BioWare would be out of their minds if they would transfer any of the choices of ME3 to Andromeda. It was bad enough that we got to discuss destroy-vs-control-vs-synthesis for years, as if it had ever been of any concern while we were playing the trilogy (and having fun). Now, they would carry that discussion for the years to come? Obviously, no. Lets face it, BioWare is running away from it all, 2.5 million light years away and 600 years into the future, to be precise. So, there's your answer. Second, it's too much speculation to say that Cerberus is behind it all. It's much more likely that BioWare is purposefully being misleading about the context of the Andromeda Initiative, for obvious storytelling reasons. Now, personally, I would have preferred if BioWare would just choose a canon ending and keep moving forward. But maybe we should accept Andromeda as a side-tour. Lets just give it a chance and see where it takes us... I personally have no qualms about some form of Cerberus being onboard/involved: it's consistent with the lore and could add a bit of spice (I think the guy being dropped by the Krogan is a Cerberus operative, but that's another story for another time). I also feel that the sequel (or sequel sequel's) conclusion would be amazing if we somehow build the trade route/gateway between the Andromeda colonies with the now 600 years in the future humanity/races of the Milky Way: at that point, the earth clan would be back together, and humanity will have successfully fulfilled it's mission to link the 2 galaxies (roll credits). I'm feeling it fam, I'm feeling it
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Post by theflyingzamboni on Nov 12, 2016 19:10:36 GMT
That would present immediate problems, which have been discussed often. Besides the problem of accounting for the Genophage, they would also have to cut off the possibility of including Quarians, because they could be extinct. And even if they were willing to do that, they'd have to have characters acknowledge major events from the trilogy in conversation, which would require multiple lines to account for all choices, adding to the budget. You want to talk about plot holes, imagine if the Reaper War had happened before they left, and no one ever spoke of it. That's the only way they'd be able to avoid making something canon without consuming their word budget on all those dialogue variants and references. Sure, you could be vague, but it would be terrible. Also, the glowing synthesis textures. Basically, pre-Reaper War remains, as it has always been, the best way to continue the series. So you didn't actually read what I said did you? As for Quarian 2 out of 3 endings at Rannoch leaves them alive. So no specific ending is picked. I missed the part where you referenced synthesis. The rest I just disagreed with. Because it's not just a problem with the ending scene of the game. It's all the other choices you can make throughout it. Accounting for major events in dialogue, and ME:A's characters' responses to them, would require a non-trivial investment of time and resources better used elsewhere. And to have people be extremely vague or ignore these huge events that for them just recently occurred would be bizarre and immersion-breaking. And 2/3 isn't all, so I have no idea what you mean by "no specific ending is picked." They couldn't use the Quarians because of that 1/3. Also, I didn't address this before, but the Krogan explanation you offered is a bit silly. Krogan agreeing to be re-infected? Not believable. The potential differences between world states are non-trivial, and to handwave them as having similar outcomes that lead to one place is way more absurd than even the AI being launched in 9 years.
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Post by hopeless on Nov 12, 2016 19:39:57 GMT
Nah, Jien Garson, from Orientation video. I was wondering about that! What if she cons the other races into thinking the Hyperion is being run by Cerberus to explain why it wanders off course and looks at the very least badly damaged? So rather than removing a pernicious thorn in their plans they give new life to Cerberus since their actions inspire a new generation for that group. I'm wondering if the Andromeda Initiative is because the other races having had access to the Crucible longer have figured out it can be used to open up a galactic spanning means of travel but they need to establish another Crucible within the Andromeda Galaxy to allow access to both of course no one realised that travel aspect was a key part of the Reapers original plan?! Still only a suspicion but maybe you can shed light on whether this might be the case?
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Post by Heimdall on Nov 12, 2016 20:06:52 GMT
Why are people so convinced Cerberus must be involved?
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Post by cloud9 on Nov 12, 2016 20:29:26 GMT
2175 CE Cerberus covertly contacts Michael Moser Lang, a political dissident on Earth, and provides him with funding to purchase weapons. Cerberus continues to monitor him after contact ends. One year later, Lang assassinates United North American States president Enrique Aguilar and Chinese People's Federation premier Ying Xiong. The resulting political shuffle benefits Cerberus' shell companies and plans for the Systems Alliance Parliament. 2176 CE The Andromeda Initiative, a privately-funded multi-species endeavor created to explore and colonize the Andromeda Galaxy, is founded. THE ANDROMEDA INITIATIVE Founded in 2176 and launched in 2185, the Andromeda Initiative is a civilian, multi-species project created to send scientists, explorers and colonists on a one-way trip to settle in the Andromeda Galaxy. With powerful benefactors lending their support, the program has grown substantially in scope since its inception. The Initiative’s ultimate goal is to establish a permanent presence on the seemingly resource-rich frontier of Andromeda, and eventually create a reliable route between it and the Milky Way Galaxy. Now let's think about this. A reliable route between Andromeda and the Milky Way??? A reliable 600 year route??? Or would it be a 1200 year route? How??? A project of this magnitude completed within nine years? What's the rush for a civilian funded project with no hope of any of its investors to ever hope to see any returns in their lifetime (that goes for the asari too)? They are literally flushing money, RESOURCES and personnel down the toilet. There is no guarantee that any human corporation would even still be around in 600+ years. And even if they were the people on the other would be the descendants of the original travelers. I mean, they'd be under no contractual obligation to do anything for the Milky Way. Humans join the greater galaxy less than 20 years prior. And humanity, the babies of the story, of all the species, is spearheading a multi-species coalition to leave the entire galaxy? Not more than 30 years after leaving their own solar system for the first time. Asari, Turians and Salarians have been at this for thousands of years and have only charted 1% of the galaxy, but they are all on board to get resources TWELVE HUNDRED HUNDRED FREAKING YEARS AWAY? For the Asari the long play makes the most sense (although still nonsensical), but it's not the Asari heading this. Bioware says the Andromeda Initiative has nothing to do with the Reaper threat. You know that's bullshit right? In other media it says they are looking for a new home world. IN ANOTHER FREAKING GALAXY?!?!?! You don't go to another galaxy in search of a new home world when the current galaxy is 99% unexplored (per the codex). And the current home world is still looking pretty. The Turians, Salarian and Asari want a new home world too. I'm sure the Krogan would love one. But again, there are much closer options. It would be equivalent to early European explorers skipping Africa, Asia, Australia, the Americas and going straight to colonize Saturn's moon Titan while the rest of the globe on Earth is unknown to them. The very notion is absurd. You know what's more cost effective than rich worlds in Andromeda? Rich worlds in the Milky Way. If you can see every planet in Andromeda you can see what's behind every relay in the Milky Way. The Andromeda Initiative has EVERYTHING to do with the Reaper threat even if the participates aren't informed. It makes absolutely no sense outside of the Reaper threat. The Reapers were known prior to ME1. There are people who've known about them since 2157 at the least. Possibly beforehand. The Illusive Man's origin story deals directly with Reaper issues. Cerberus was founded in part as a counter Reaper initiative. I wouldn't be surprised if Cerberus's name gets thrown in at some point. I don't expect them to be doing bad stuff or act as an antagonist organization per se, but they probably had something to do with the project and may have plants. The Ryders may even be a "Cerberus family", unbeknownst to the protagonist siblings. There was a mention about discovering the secrets of the Ryder family. Speculation for everyone. If you believe it has nothing to do with the Reaper threat; are you worried? You must be extremely worried, right? Because the writers would have to be in full on DERP MODE for it to have nothing to do with the Reaper threat. And if the writing is that caliber of garbage how can you be excited about ME:A? It's no wonder people left the company to go someplace else than work for them. And I don't blame them.........
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Post by Garo on Nov 12, 2016 21:10:50 GMT
Well I feel like the theme so far is just exploration, going beyond Milky Way, so officially it has nothing to do with the Reapers. But so what? If you watch all of the trailers you can see that they push this one agenda of going forward, which led humanity to joining Andromeda Initiative.
BUT different people could found and join this Initiative for different reasons! We don't know if this was a human idea to begin with, maybe we just had an option to join it and we did (probably Cerberus helped here, because they believed in Reapers) and we left with them. Maybe they invited us because of what Shepard did in first Mass Effect! I don't see the problem here. Bunch of rich space people for different reasons wanted to go to a different galaxy... Weird idea? Yes, but rich people are know for having eccentric ideas. Just open your mind a little!
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Post by The Twilight God on Nov 12, 2016 22:47:54 GMT
Not a good start for ME:A's story when you create massive plot holes in it before it is even released. There are more then enough ways to be vague enough not to be forced to pick an official canon ending to ME Trilogy. And yet have it's logical place after the trilogy to make the extra galactic trip logical. A scroll text opening like in ME 1 saying something like: 2186 the galaxy faced a threat far beyond their technological capabilities. The war cost billions of lives but eventually it was ended. The races of the galaxy banded together to rebuild the galaxy. Utilizing the technology of the Reapers the galaxy advanced far beyond their imaginations. Using their new advanced technology the races of the galaxy banded together to form the Andromeda Initiative. It's goal to send colonists distances never before attempted by any known race. To send them to an entirely new galaxy..... -Cut scene showing the Ark flying by- Andromeda All 3 endings support that because in all 3 the potential to learn from the Reapers is there. Be it salvaging the technology from their broken hulls, to having it given to them by AI Shep or Synthesis Reapers. The glowing from Synthesis ending can just be called an exaggeration to show the change that took place. The only thing they would have to compromise on would possibly being Genophage being cured. To explain the Krogans still being around. And even then that can be explained away by the Krogan willingly accepting a genetic alteration that out right reduces the number of young produced. Rather then having thousands of miscarriages a Krogan female now only gives birth to 2 or 3 at a time. That scenario has the same problem as the current one. Although, as I mention, I believe it is a Reaper motivated journey even if only Jien Garson, Papa Ryder and several ambiguous investors know it.
But in your version I have to ask: Why are they going to Andromeda if they already won the war???
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Nov 13, 2016 15:19:18 GMT
So you didn't actually read what I said did you? As for Quarian 2 out of 3 endings at Rannoch leaves them alive. So no specific ending is picked. I missed the part where you referenced synthesis. The rest I just disagreed with. Because it's not just a problem with the ending scene of the game. It's all the other choices you can make throughout it. Accounting for major events in dialogue, and ME:A's characters' responses to them, would require a non-trivial investment of time and resources better used elsewhere. And to have people be extremely vague or ignore these huge events that for them just recently occurred would be bizarre and immersion-breaking. And 2/3 isn't all, so I have no idea what you mean by "no specific ending is picked." They couldn't use the Quarians because of that 1/3. Also, I didn't address this before, but the Krogan explanation you offered is a bit silly. Krogan agreeing to be re-infected? Not believable. The potential differences between world states are non-trivial, and to handwave them as having similar outcomes that lead to one place is way more absurd than even the AI being launched in 9 years. Set 200 years in the future before the ship leaves the galaxy. Spends 400 years in stasis before arrival. The topic of were they came from would only need a few lines of dialogue. Hi we are Quarians we are the last remaining survivors of our race from the events of the Reaper war and we are trying to find a place to live in another galaxy because this one isn't safe anymore. or Hi we are Quarian explores from Rannoch who want to join you to explore and colonize a new galaxy for the Quarian people. All it needs is a slight line change. Then never talk about it again. The lack of Geth coming with you helps that out a lot. Re-infected? How is a genetic alteration to reduce the total number of births rather then just making it so only 1 in a 1000 are viable re-infecting anything? The unwillingness to pick cannon choices of ME3. And to avoid ME 3 so hard you would think ME3 killed and ate their dog in front of them will make ME:A absurd and stupid to start with. Privately funded venture to sends several massive ships containing thousands of people on a one way 600 year trip to the Andromeda galaxy for resources. When their own Milky Way hasn't been 100% explored or tapped out for resources yet. Which even if they got there and there was tons of resource heavy planets the act of shipping would be a 1200 year round trip journey. Not counting the fact that the Andromeda Galaxy should have races with technological capabilities similar to Leviathan or the Reapers. Because the time frame between when Leviathan was able to evolve on their home planet to the point of the galaxy in ME 2 is a couple billion years of time. Which would still account for evolution, technological development, several large scale interstellar wars and recovery and further growth. The equivalent of the races on the ARK armed with bows and arrows and the races of the Andromeda galaxy should be armed with AK-47's and tanks. The game's premise is already god damn absurd to the breaking point of suspension of belief because nothing about it makes any logical sense at all. At least with my set up there is some absurdity but suddenly everything fit together in at least a semi logical way.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Nov 13, 2016 15:20:20 GMT
Not a good start for ME:A's story when you create massive plot holes in it before it is even released. There are more then enough ways to be vague enough not to be forced to pick an official canon ending to ME Trilogy. And yet have it's logical place after the trilogy to make the extra galactic trip logical. A scroll text opening like in ME 1 saying something like: 2186 the galaxy faced a threat far beyond their technological capabilities. The war cost billions of lives but eventually it was ended. The races of the galaxy banded together to rebuild the galaxy. Utilizing the technology of the Reapers the galaxy advanced far beyond their imaginations. Using their new advanced technology the races of the galaxy banded together to form the Andromeda Initiative. It's goal to send colonists distances never before attempted by any known race. To send them to an entirely new galaxy..... -Cut scene showing the Ark flying by- Andromeda All 3 endings support that because in all 3 the potential to learn from the Reapers is there. Be it salvaging the technology from their broken hulls, to having it given to them by AI Shep or Synthesis Reapers. The glowing from Synthesis ending can just be called an exaggeration to show the change that took place. The only thing they would have to compromise on would possibly being Genophage being cured. To explain the Krogans still being around. And even then that can be explained away by the Krogan willingly accepting a genetic alteration that out right reduces the number of young produced. Rather then having thousands of miscarriages a Krogan female now only gives birth to 2 or 3 at a time. That scenario has the same problem as the current one. Although, as I mention, I believe it is a Reaper motivated journey even if only Jien Garson, Papa Ryder and several ambiguous investors know it.
But in your version I have to ask: Why are they going to Andromeda if they already won the war???
Because they want to explore and the technology they now have gives them the capability to do so.
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Post by hopeless on Nov 13, 2016 15:49:49 GMT
Hmm... I was wondering if they discovered a means to travel galactic distances using the Citadel but needed to establish a relay in the Andromeda Galaxy to allow two way travel.
Cerberus has limited use, I'm more thinking they got a few agents aboard but nowhere near as many as they would need to properly rebuild their organisation so they'd need some means of recruiting more help and a reason for it.
The Arks must have taken ages to build longer than the ten years between humanity finding the Mass Relay and joining the Council?
Clearly if this is really set between Mass Effect 2 & 3 did they have 5 Arks built in time for when they're launched and humanity was given one of them as a result of their joining the Council so its not because of the Reapers but an actual effort by the Council to repair ties as well as try to recruit someone as capable and reliable as Shepherd to improve their chances of success?
Nothing stopping them from having a DLC where we learn why Ryder Father was selected maybe a meeting with Shepherd and an adventure that's set some time after the end of Mass Effect 2 but before the Arks were launched... OH what if its set before the start of Mass Effect 2 maybe when the Normandy is attacked and Shepherd thought killed its because he was about to be assigned to the Andromeda Initiative and the Reapers intervened thinking that would curtail the program but all it did was switch to a fellow N7 candidate and they immediately launched once ready instead of hesitated any further as they didn't know who was responsible for Shepherd's assassination?
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