Tin Foil Skirt and Thigh-High Boots - Ashley Williams Thread

Why should she? Shepard is still in the Milky Way - she won't leave him

Now that I got my first two hours of Andromeda - I don't think the animations are that bad. Story also seems to be okay so far and dialogues seem to work out. It feels a bit like a mix of ME1 and ME2.

Cora appears to be a rough fit for Ashley, but it's too early to be sure.

True. However, Ashley never had anything against Asari in particular. Right from the beginning she didn't trust any alien species more than any other. Depending on how you put Shepard's influence on her, in the end Ash seems to care especially for the Quarians but doesn't outright dislike / hate any other species, including the Vorcha.
Given the fact most species did have a certain bias towards certain species (especially Krogans and Quarians), Ash seems to have a far less biased view in the end, which moves her closer to the more open members of Shepard's crew. Ppl simply dismiss her 'cuz of a handful of lines from first half of ME1, ignoring her development entirely.

It's been almost 10 years since ME1 and there are still lots and lots of people who think Ash is racist. Ironically, most of them seem to hate human characters.

Exactly. And I think it's one of the main reasons why Ash's infamous line about animals not working properly for some people.
"How dare you compare them to animals! They are huma... oh, well... They are proud individuals!"

It's different. You just have to see it as completely different from the ME Trilogy. The core of ME is still there, but a lot of other stuff is not the same. I think that is where some of the fire from the fanbase is coming from, most wanted a continuation of the Trilogy and not something new.

That said, it is still pretty close to what I love from the Trilogy. And I personally think Cora is a pretty close analogue for Ash.

I never had hate for ME3, sure the original ending wasn't exactly what I had hoped for but I just came up with my own "ending" I guess. And now I pretty much see the Citadel DLC as my ending, and fill in the rest mentally.

As for continuing the franchise, Andromeda was probably the "easiest/ best" choice to try and alienate as few fans as possible.



I didn't mean an exact copy, just basic outline I guess. Devoted soldier with a softer side (if you talk to her), who has some of her beliefs shaken and help her deal with that. So maybe a mix of Ash and Miranda?

Doesn't matter that much thought, cause we still have the Trilogy for those characters we love.

I gave the game 6/10.

One thing you could do is wait until EA/Biowre releases a game-of-the-year edition. It would contain the man game, dlc's and all upgrades. That's what they did for DAI. If they charge $60 it would be a good deal.

I'm part of that group as well. Though I believe there's a lot more people than you might believe that would like to have Shepard return
It would not be hard for Shepard to return. Its up to Bioware if they want to bring him/her back.

Recently I wanted to find the full leaked script for ME3. Not sure why, last time when I read it, it didnt end well for my psyche... (that Ashley's death scene was... a better word to describe it will be "sadistic"). Anyway,I can't seem to find it. Maybe it's for the best.
But I liked additional Ashley's dialogues and,turns out, they seem to exist only on couple of forums where I posted them a long time ago. I'll leave them here too.

After that freaking Coup

Ashley: Not exactly, Commander. I've been beached. I'm supposed to be "reassigned when an opportunity presents itself."
- Shepard: From what I heard, you didn't fail the Council, Ash. You took charge when their security team got wiped.
Ashley: They didn't say it, but it's pretty damn clear I failed them. Bodyguard, Spectre, whatever you call it, that career is over. And I don't want it, Skipper. If there's a place for me anywhere in this war, it's on the Normandy.

- Shepard: In the grand scheme of things, I don't think you're getting points off for being catty.
Ashley: Please, that's sugarcoating it. I of all people should have seen the ambushes coming. It was... it wasn't good.
- Shepard: You've been through a lot today, Ash. Combat stress, Udina, getting fired... I'm surprised you're still standing.
Ashley: I'm a Williams, sir. We may not always get it right, but we don't give up.

- Shepard: You look a little shaken. Are you going to be all right?
Ashley: Is it that obvious? Great. There's Udina, of course. I mean, I've dropped the hammer before, but... I knew the guy. I remember waiting in his office. And saying I hate politicians, that's... it comes off as bloodthirsty. I mean, everyone hates politicians, you don't just cap them.
- Shepard: Get your things and we'll find you a bunk. We'll be taking off soon.
Ashley: Aye-aye, Skipper. Uh... I'll be sleeping in the crew's quarters, right? Or is there a... never mind. Stupid question. Don't answer that.

- Shepard: Williams, you don't decide where you serve. In the case of the Normandy, I do. Let's review the 212 on Eden Prime, Horizon when the Collectors hit it, and what just happened to the Council security team. Death follows your units wherever you go, Ash. At some point we've got to acknowledge that fact.
Ashley: You're seriously... If I can speak freely, sir, you're making a huge mistake. You throw people out because they would drag a team down, sir. Or because they disobey orders or hamper combat readiness. Are you seriously going to toss out the second human Spectre because she's hard to kill?
Shepard: Just establishing parameters, Williams. I want you sharp when we enter combat, and I want your team coming home alive.

About Shepard's death(we all know this one, but there are some new lines)

Ashley: Hey Commander, I was just about to go look for you. I have a question for you.
Shepard: What's up?
Ashley: I wasn't sure...well, it's not exactly regulation.
Shepard: I'm curious. Shoot.
Ashley: Laying there in the hospital, I had a lot of time to think. Lots of stuff going on, lots to try and deal with.
Shepard: I understand. I've spent more time in hospitals then my own ship.
Ashley: ...and thanks for coming by. Hospitals always make me nervous. Something about shuffling off our mortal coil, y'know? I couldn't wait to get out of there. I hate hospitals. Hate the smell. Hate the colors. Hate the reminder of...the end, Y'know?
Shepard: You...had a question?
Ashley: Yeah...well, I guess I'll come out and ask; you were dead...weren't you? I mean...really dead. Right?
Shepard: So I heard. I couldn't say for sure, but I think so.
Ashley: {Long pause} What did you see? Bright light? Dark tunnel? Anything?
Shepard: That's a big question, Ash. I'm not sure the answer will be what you're looking for.
Ashley: It is what it is, Shepard. There's no right or wrong.
Shepard: I was wondering when you would come out and ask me. People haven't really asked.
Ashley: That's hard to believe. You died! You saw what's next. How can anyone not be curious about that?
Shepard: All right. I'll tell you what I know. The truth is...I don't remember much.
Ashley: What do you mean?
Shepard: I remember floating after an explosion in the Normandy pushed me out into space. There was a sharp pain in my chest. I couldn't breath but could feel air being leeched from my lungs. I struggled, tried to stop the air from leaking- all pointless...but it doesn't take long before it was all blackness.
Ashley: Did you see anything?
Shepard: I did see a light.
Ashley: Really?
Shepard: It was the Cerberus lab, Ash. Nothing else. I heard voices, muffled for a bit. The next time I woke up, I had to escape the facility.
Ashley: So you don't know.
Shepard: I don't know. I'm sorry.
Ashley: I guess the big question won't get answered today.
Shepard: I'm afraid not.
Ashley: Well, crap. You failed as my life-after-death inside source.
Shepard: I could dance for you.
Ashley: Please don't.

Shepard: To tell the truth, I don't remember anything.
Ashley: Nothing at all?
Shepard: Even with my experience, I don't think I should be answering questions about your beliefs. When I realized what had happened. What Cerberus had done to bring me back...I panicked. I shut down. I pushed the fear away just long enough to deal with the Collectors...but it didn't stay away. The time alone in Alliance lock-up I had to confront what I was.
Ashley: What are you afraid of?
Shepard: Ash, I don't know if I died and came back...or simply died.
Ashley: What do you mean?
Shepard: I don't know if this is the Shepard you knew, or some incomplete copy. I don't know.
Ashley: Does it matter?
Shepard: I don't know.

After Sanctuary

Ashley: Hey, Shepard. I heard what happened. I know she was...important to you. I just wanted to say something... I admit what she did was just about the gutsiest thing I've ever heard.
- Shepard: It's O.K. Ash. This is tough to navigate. I appreciate the thought. It cost her everything, but she handed us Cerberus and shut down that place at the same time.
Ashley: Miranda sounded like somebody I would have liked to get to know better.
- Shepard: Thanks. You and her were a lot alike. Strong, opinionated, always came through.
Ashley: Something in common with a genetically perfect super-woman? Remind me of that next time I spill ketchup down the front of my uniform.
Shepard: Heh. Her father might have given her perfect DNA, but she was just as human as the rest of us. After seeing that, it make me appreciate people like you Ash.
Ashley: Her father sounds like a real peach.
Shepard: You come from good, solid people. You see things that are wrong, and you try to make them right.

Ashley: That whole facility was designed to deceive people who had lost everything.
- Shepard: The part that haunts me is not knowing if he was indoctrinated. If he was, it might be easier to comprehend what we saw.
Ashley: Some things are just wrong. My survival means nothing if it's built on losing myself. I'm not sure we'll ever understand. I'm glad. Makes me feel human.
- Shepard: He was looking to give our side a fighting chance against an enemy that seemed invincible. I'm not saying I agree, I'm saying I can understand desperation.
Ashley: I can't believe you saw anything that remotely resembled sanity in there. I'd rather small hope of what's real than the ugly false hope of that place.
Shepard: Don't get me wrong, he wasn't doing it for that. Not really. He just used it as an excuse for his own twisted legacy.
- Shepard: The Crucible...the fleets were assembling...all of it, do you think it will be enough to stop the Reapers?
Ashley: I don't know. The odds seem impossible. But is any war different?
- Shepard: I mean if a place like Sanctuary did give us an edge to win this...would we use it, or allow ourselves to be destroyed?
Ashley: {Slight pause}No. If it comes to it, we are better dead then surrerending our soul.

My survival means nothing if it's built on losing myself Synthesis,anyone?

Thanks for finding that again saito. I was wondering if these would pop up again, I only ever saw the cut stuff on the old BSN.