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Post by RageUnderFire on Nov 11, 2016 0:45:20 GMT
Now that we know they left between 2 & 3 and heard Shepard narrating one of the trailers.
What's the chances that Big Boss N7 Thundervag was aware of the AI?
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Post by drrotinaj on Nov 11, 2016 3:09:49 GMT
It's definitely possible that Shepard knew about it. Hell I'd go as far as saying they most likely knew about it but never talked about it because it was never relevant.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 11, 2016 3:22:15 GMT
I hope not. With all that is wrong about this initiative, I want Shepard having nothing to do with it.
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Post by jediguardian on Nov 11, 2016 4:21:55 GMT
Shepard should know. Thay why S/he gave that speech to AI.
and I dont see the problem if they talk about this in game, some mention to ME Shepard will be great to hear.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Nov 11, 2016 4:28:06 GMT
It's definitely possible that Shepard knew about it. Hell I'd go as far as saying they most likely knew about it but never talked about it because it was never relevant. I disagree, I think it was relevant to bring up in many conversations during the 3rd game. For instance, any time Shepard was showing their resolve weakening, it would have made a lot of sense to say something like "Well, even if we fail, at least we know that we have people on their way to Andromeda who can rebuilt and continue on. That's something." Because I don't know about you, but if I was the spearhead of the resistance against the Reapers, I'd sure as hell feel as though an unfathomably large weight had been lifted if I knew I (and the resistance) actually wasn't the last hope of the Milky Way. The stakes are still incredibly high, but they aren't extinction. That right there is why it doesn't make sense for Shepard to either know or not know about the Initiative, and right now it's looking like they did know and the send-off is canon.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Nov 11, 2016 5:03:53 GMT
It's definitely possible that Shepard knew about it. Hell I'd go as far as saying they most likely knew about it but never talked about it because it was never relevant. I disagree, I think it was relevant to bring up in many conversations during the 3rd game. For instance, any time Shepard was showing their resolve weakening, it would have made a lot of sense to say something like "Well, even if we fail, at least we know that we have people on their way to Andromeda who can rebuilt and continue on. That's something." Because I don't know about you, but if I was the spearhead of the resistance against the Reapers, I'd sure as hell feel as though an unfathomably large weight had been lifted if I knew I (and the resistance) actually wasn't the last hope of the Milky Way. The stakes are still incredibly high, but they aren't extinction. That right there is why it doesn't make sense for Shepard to either know or not know about the Initiative, and right now it's looking like they did know and the send-off is canon. I see your point. It would be the most appropriate execution, but I can live with Shepard knowing but never mentioning it on the game. Maybe it was top-secret in order to avoid spreading the information in case he/someone got indoctrinated. Could work if the Ai was indeed confidential for some reason. I'm not sure they would justify Shepard's awareness like something along these lines, though. Lots of room.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 11, 2016 5:25:30 GMT
My Shepard knew about it. The Andromeda Initiative asked her if she would be interested in going. She declined, but recommended dad Ryder.
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Post by Sartoz on Nov 11, 2016 5:41:55 GMT
,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
Shep's too busy gallivanting about the galaxy to get involved in a privately funded and possibly wacko Andromeda Initiative project. The only involvement was with that send-off message. So, how did he get involved?
Well, the Alliance military have a moon base. I can reasonably speculate that the construction of super size ships above the base would get noticed. The Alliance military have every right to ask questions and got the answers. Jen had nothing to hide anyway.
It is reasonable, therefore, that when the shyte hit the fan, Shep was asked to send the message.
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Post by Sartoz on Nov 11, 2016 5:42:50 GMT
My Shepard knew about it. The Andromeda Initiative asked her if she would be interested in going. She declined, but recommended dad Ryder. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
Oh, lovely! Why didn't I think of it?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 11, 2016 5:48:47 GMT
I also think that the speech Shepard gives isn't meant for the people of AI, but was a meta thing and was for the fans.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Nov 11, 2016 6:05:17 GMT
I also think that the speech Shepard gives isn't meant for the people of AI, but was a meta thing and was for the fans. Confirmed on twitter to be the case. @thread we should probably accept that things won't make sense if you're trying to merge the Milky Way trilogy TL, with the Andromeda TL. So I'm hoping there's no mention at all of any Reapers, if there even is a mention of anything Shepard related at all. Because AFAIC this as an AU where there were no Reapers. But that's if the Arkships don't turn out to be a conspiracy to escape the Reapers, without telling the passengers. *Fingers crossed*
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Post by deadgoon on Nov 11, 2016 6:24:45 GMT
There's no reason other than fan service for Shepard to know about the arks given that between ME:2 & ME:3, Shepard was either an active member of Cerberus or being held incommunicado as a "guest" of Alliance military, & as a "guest" of Alliance military Shep wasn't even in the know with regards to Kaidens/Ashleys status, so there is no good reason for Shep to know about something like the arks.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Nov 11, 2016 6:25:00 GMT
I disagree, I think it was relevant to bring up in many conversations during the 3rd game. For instance, any time Shepard was showing their resolve weakening, it would have made a lot of sense to say something like "Well, even if we fail, at least we know that we have people on their way to Andromeda who can rebuilt and continue on. That's something." Because I don't know about you, but if I was the spearhead of the resistance against the Reapers, I'd sure as hell feel as though an unfathomably large weight had been lifted if I knew I (and the resistance) actually wasn't the last hope of the Milky Way. The stakes are still incredibly high, but they aren't extinction. That right there is why it doesn't make sense for Shepard to either know or not know about the Initiative, and right now it's looking like they did know and the send-off is canon. I see your point. It would be the most appropriate execution, but I can live with Shepard knowing but never mentioning it on the game. Maybe it was top-secret in order to avoid spreading the information in case he/someone got indoctrinated. Could work if the Ai was indeed confidential for some reason. I'm not sure they would justify Shepard's awareness like something along these lines, though. Lots of room. It could work if it was confidential, yes, but that has its own problems. We haven't had confirmation of how public the endeavour was yet, but it definitely doesn't appear to be a secret given they're building an Ark in Luna's orbit. The general tone also doesn't seem secretive. I also think that the speech Shepard gives isn't meant for the people of AI, but was a meta thing and was for the fans. Oh, it was definitely a meta thing, I agree, but I don't think it was only a meta thing. It was dual-purposed. I also think that the speech Shepard gives isn't meant for the people of AI, but was a meta thing and was for the fans. Confirmed on twitter to be the case.@thread we should probably accept that things won't make sense if you're trying to merge the Milky Way trilogy TL, with the Andromeda TL. So I'm hoping there's no mention at all of any Reapers, if there even is a mention of anything Shepard related at all. Because AFAIC this as an AU where there were no Reapers. But that's if the Arkships don't turn out to be a conspiracy to escape the Reapers, without telling the passengers. *Fingers crossed* Not disbelieving, but do you have a link? Phrasing can be all-too-important for these things. And I've been out of the loop. Oh, don't worry, I doubt they'll mention they Reapers. But it's not an alternate universe.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Nov 11, 2016 6:26:00 GMT
There's no reason other than fan service for Shepard to know about the arks given that between ME:2 & ME:3, Shepard was either an active member of Cerberus or being held incommunicado as a "guest" of Alliance military, & as a "guest" of Alliance military Shep wasn't even in the know with regards to Kaidens/Ashleys status, so there is no good reason for Shep to know about something like the arks. Again, that depends entirely on whether or not the project was secret.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Nov 11, 2016 8:26:02 GMT
I see your point. It would be the most appropriate execution, but I can live with Shepard knowing but never mentioning it on the game. Maybe it was top-secret in order to avoid spreading the information in case he/someone got indoctrinated. Could work if the Ai was indeed confidential for some reason. I'm not sure they would justify Shepard's awareness like something along these lines, though. Lots of room. It could work if it was confidential, yes, but that has its own problems. We haven't had confirmation of how public the endeavour was yet, but it definitely doesn't appear to be a secret given they're building an Ark in Luna's orbit. The general tone also doesn't seem secretive. I also think that the speech Shepard gives isn't meant for the people of AI, but was a meta thing and was for the fans. Oh, it was definitely a meta thing, I agree, but I don't think it was only a meta thing. It was dual-purposed. Confirmed on twitter to be the case.@thread we should probably accept that things won't make sense if you're trying to merge the Milky Way trilogy TL, with the Andromeda TL. So I'm hoping there's no mention at all of any Reapers, if there even is a mention of anything Shepard related at all. Because AFAIC this as an AU where there were no Reapers. But that's if the Arkships don't turn out to be a conspiracy to escape the Reapers, without telling the passengers. *Fingers crossed* Not disbelieving, but do you have a link? Phrasing can be all-too-important for these things. And I've been out of the loop. Oh, don't worry, I doubt they'll mention they Reapers. But it's not an alternate universe. Sorry no. But I was served with the link after I tried saying Shepard must have been alive because of vid. I think it was Aaryn Flynn who knocked it down. It's nothing more than a final goodbye to fans from Shep.
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Post by Ahriman on Nov 11, 2016 8:55:41 GMT
I also think that the speech Shepard gives isn't meant for the people of AI, but was a meta thing and was for the fans. Confirmed on twitter to be the case. @thread we should probably accept that things won't make sense if you're trying to merge the Milky Way trilogy TL, with the Andromeda TL. So I'm hoping there's no mention at all of any Reapers, if there even is a mention of anything Shepard related at all. Because AFAIC this as an AU where there were no Reapers. But that's if the Arkships don't turn out to be a conspiracy to escape the Reapers, without telling the passengers. *Fingers crossed* Pretty sure that's the case. Flynn or Walters slipped it out with " most of Ark inhabitats aren't aware of Reapers". So we'll be able to find out about them in game if we ask right person right question. Though it will be some minor background info at that moment. Since they keep tweaking MEA timeline, I wouldn't be surprised if departure will end up in 2186 with last Orientation video being like - Since all our ships are finally ready for the expedition... *one of tubes falls off in background* - ... we've decided to depart without further delay.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Nov 11, 2016 9:20:15 GMT
Confirmed on twitter to be the case. @thread we should probably accept that things won't make sense if you're trying to merge the Milky Way trilogy TL, with the Andromeda TL. So I'm hoping there's no mention at all of any Reapers, if there even is a mention of anything Shepard related at all. Because AFAIC this as an AU where there were no Reapers. But that's if the Arkships don't turn out to be a conspiracy to escape the Reapers, without telling the passengers. *Fingers crossed* Pretty sure that's the case. Flynn or Walters slipped it out with " most of Ark inhabitats aren't aware of Reapers". So we'll be able to find out about them in game if we ask right person right answer. Though it will be some minor background info at that moment. Since they keep tweaking MEA timeline, I wouldn't be surprised if departure will end up in 2186 with last Orientation video being like - Since all our ships are finally ready for the expedition... *one of tubes falls off in background* - ... we've decided to depart without further delay. Lol'd.
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Post by traks on Nov 11, 2016 10:23:55 GMT
Shepard's involvement? None.
Did Shep know about it? Sure, very likely. As players we were aware of just a very small piece of Shep's knowledge.
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Post by SofNascimento on Nov 11, 2016 10:52:44 GMT
Shepard didn't know because there were no Arks in his trilogies. That came latter.
Also, although the Arks are privately funded, there are clearly Alliance dreadnoughts guarding or helping to build it. So it's not like the Alliance didn't even care about the absolute greatest project the Milk Way races ever built.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Nov 11, 2016 11:11:25 GMT
I really don't think we should read too much into that trailer, seems like an out of story thing for fans, like Varric's keep narration of dao events he wasn't there for.
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Post by ravenous on Nov 11, 2016 13:43:07 GMT
I whole heartedly believe that Shepard s\he most definitely knew about the AI but chose to keep quite because it is not relevant to s \he at all.
In my canon my shepard he most definitely knew and was offered a chance to join the AI but refused because he has work to do dealing with the collectors and the Reapers and it wouldn't be right to just up and leave
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Post by RageUnderFire on Nov 11, 2016 13:50:33 GMT
I wouldn't let Shepard into the party.
He's at high risk for indoctrination.
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Post by deadgoon on Nov 11, 2016 14:13:26 GMT
There's no reason other than fan service for Shepard to know about the arks given that between ME:2 & ME:3, Shepard was either an active member of Cerberus or being held incommunicado as a "guest" of Alliance military, & as a "guest" of Alliance military Shep wasn't even in the know with regards to Kaidens/Ashleys status, so there is no good reason for Shep to know about something like the arks. Again, that depends entirely on whether or not the project was secret. If it wasn't secret then the whole galaxy will know, & if the galaxy knows then the reapers will know, & if that's the case then our Andromeda bound travelers are going to get seriously unwelcome visitors 600+ years down the line.
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Post by Obliviousmiss on Nov 11, 2016 14:41:34 GMT
I wouldn't let Shepard into the party. He's at high risk for indoctrination.
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Post by Dario on Nov 11, 2016 15:59:29 GMT
Now that we know they left between 2 & 3 and heard Shepard narrating one of the trailers. What's the chances that Big Boss N7 Thundervag was aware of the AI? To me, this cannot be: WE ARE Shepard, he knows what we knows... It is ok, though, if other character of the trilogy knew of the Ark and didn't tell us/Shep.
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