Smudboy throws another stone: ME:A Failing at the Premise (link inside)

I'll judge the Ai fully when we'll have all the details (which will likely be after the game'a release), but I'm quite sure there'll be things that will not make much sense (and there'll be stuff like this probably regardless of the initiative, like the seemingly orbital fall of Ryder).
I doubt the situation would've been much different for whatever choice they'd have made to accomodate all the endings, or picking a canon.

The lore is not only about the technicalities of FTL travel...  We are told this initiative launches between the defeat of Sovereign and the main invasion.  While the Reapers aren't there yet, their indoctrinated agents are everywhere.  You don't think they would pick up on a call to the general public to join the Andromeda expedition, its purpose and destination?  And you don't think it likely for Harbinger to send another Reaper on that trail and insure those species targeted for harvesting do not escape?

"That sounds exactly like the thinking of a machine to me!" ~Morpheus

Well first off you didn't get a lot of the whole reaper controlled people (outside of Collectors) till ME3 and THAT was due to an event that happened after ME2, just prior to ME3 specifically with Cerberus. As far as the Collectors no, no I don't think they would fly to earth and other homeworlds to try and attack directly because they'd get seriously fucked up. ME2 was all about them swooping in (swooping, is, bad...) far off human colonies. Very specifically because, well they needed/wanted humans and it allowed them to do so with out being targetted directly.

And send what Reaper? There was only 1 Reaper 'in' the Milky Way and we killed it at the end of ME1. ALL the other Reapers are out in deep space. That's entirely what the last DLC of ME2 was about, we blew up the closest relay to delay them a few months before they could get to the next closest one and start hopping around all willy nilly. So no I don't think they would send an actual Reaper as they frankly didn't  have that as an option.

The only other thing is... they're leaving the Milky Way, mostly unaware of the Reapers (im sure secretly theres some Reaper knowledge and that informs the launch time to some extent but still). The fact the Reapers haven't bothered with any other galaxy so far should be kind of telling considering how fast they could get to one. But also consider how they actually deal with the Milky Way. It's not 'we're so super all powerful nothing stops us' that's just the bullshit they spew out at Shepard.

Everything is calculated, all of it is a trap designed to give them as big of an advantage as possible so the chances of their failure to harvest is as small as it can be. And all of it revolves around organics falling into the same patterns as the previous cycle. They don't care about Andromeda because they have no information on Andromeda. No Citadel to lure the galaxy into a position for them to take advantage of. Going over there with 0 information for them to data crunch comes up with nothing but infinite outcomes nothing their robotic brain can act on.

That or they just 'assume' it's all evil robots and no organics could possibly exist over there since that's what there entire reasoning behind fucking up the Milky Way on a cycle is. Oh Robots will eventually take over if we don't hit the reset button. Guh I hate Reaper logic it just bugs me, all circular and shit. Anyway point is, if we run off the Andromeda I doubt they would bother following. Both because they lack the information to act, or because all simulations result in us arriving in a place filled with death robots that wiped out organics a long time ago.

I'm certain their agents (think of the 'faithfull geth') would report in as soon as the invasion is underway.  That is when I imagine Harbinger would detach 1 or more of his kind to investigate this trail, and possibly overtake the arks, once their 'destination based on their last known trajectories' is discovered.



You may have a point there.  The Reapers appear entirely bound by the imperatives of the mandate given to them by Starbrat, as he himself was instructed by the Leviathans.  At which point it could be a 'out of scope - out of mind' decision.

Yeah, issue is how or when do they get the time for that. Well screw getting the time, 'how' do they do that? That would require that information being stored somewhere and them finding it. I mean it's not like ships leave extremely distinct trails that linger for months on end they'd be able to follow. I'm sure they could come up with some way for the 'Faithful Geth' to of been spying on it and keeping track of that maybe?

I dunno, that one seems like it would have to be something they'd do after they finished off earth and had things more under control which could take awhile. And ultimately never happens cause ME3 happens. I guess at that point you could say ME3 stopped that from happening if it would of. But if they could your right on them overtaking. There nearly 3 times as fast as the Arks lol. Even if they waited 2 years, that'd just be 2 years outa the 600 year journey. Reaps would catch up to em in about 1 full year at that point.

hmm, now I'm wondering if we use any relays to get closer to the Rim, and which part of the rim would make most sense for leaving to get to Andromeda. I mean if we go from Earth straight to the rim directly away from the center we're looking at... 6.22 years of travel time LOL. Shit that's even think about things like it's all a 2D plane. I know galaxies tend to be swirly discs, but for all I know we're not even going towards the outer rim to get towards Andromeda you know?

Really makes me wonder, and i doubt we'll ever actually learn the exact path out of the galaxy to get to the next.

Ahriman Now that... that is a very logical way to look at things. Yeah, they obviously don't since they didn't bother.

Mass Effect Andromeda is like the previous ME, fantasie land with sometimes ennoying plotholes. However that does not deter me from its main purpose = enjoyment.

Would I have taken some off the routes the writers took in the Mass effect series? No, but simple truth is "creations from others" will never be yours and whining about that will not change that fact.

Think the product is not going to suit your needs. Fine, move on....

As far as I know our real technological abilities is that we can bearly fly to the moon on a oil based product. Cosmologist can't even agree on what the cosmos consist of allthough the gravity modell is favored. Acting if we are a space faring people with a real science to back it up is taking it a step to far in my opinion.

All I saw in that video is ego stroking.

Hence why I quipped with that Vador quote from ESB.  If a Relay was used then the Reapers could read it like a traffic controller reads his charts - and from there extrapolate the likeliest  destinations. 

Oh well we'll never know...  *Perhaps* I'll give this a shot once it's out.  We'll see what the buzz around it is.

Primary relays only link to one other relay, but they are extremely long range, hundred of light years. Secondary relays can link to several others, but have much shorter ranges.

Expeditions to find and explore the other side of dormant relays makes much more sense that flying off to a completely unknown ad RELAYLESS galaxy for S&Gs

Agreed! But just because it makes more sense doesn't mean going to Andromeda isn't a likely idea someone would have. Someone with the funds and desire to make it happen.

Shit theres people who want to visit North Korea. I find that far, far more crazy then a buncha people wanting to travel to Andromeda and leave all the milky way non-sense behind.

Yeah, and it very well may. But the project wasn't done till and ready till ME2. Cars didn't revolutionize the world before the first one was finished. Granted theres no game showing it but still. I feel like the Ark tech actually makes fixing those relays less of an impossible task. Cause that's how the ending of ME3 felt like.

Well, the ORIGINAL ending blew up the whole galaxy. But there directs cut ending just 'broke' the relays which means you need ships capable of traveling those distances just to re-activate them. Control/Syth worked cause you had Reapers to do it for us. Blowin' up the reapers though would require fixing up existing ships/making new ones for that.

I guess what I'm saying is just because we're in Andromeda doesn't mean that tech 'isnt' causing a new wave of colonization in the MW.