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Post by Chiantirose on Jul 7, 2017 15:14:08 GMT
Voted me too and handed out some exp (whatever that does) I'm surprised there hasn't been a "Lol, Liam sucks, no one cares" post.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 15:30:44 GMT
Voted me too and handed out some exp (whatever that does) I'm surprised there hasn't been a "Lol, Liam sucks, no one cares" post. Looks like random internet trolls are lazy today...really surprised that there is no hate comment there yet. I doubt our effort will actually change something, but at least we can say we tried it. Kitsumi I think I understand your explanation. Thank you for that...I actually feel less dumb now, which is awesome Idioms in my language can ´ t be translated into English properly too
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Post by Chiantirose on Jul 7, 2017 16:14:45 GMT
Voted me too and handed out some exp (whatever that does) I'm surprised there hasn't been a "Lol, Liam sucks, no one cares" post. Looks like random internet trolls are lazy today...really surprised that there is no hate comment there yet. I doubt our effort will actually change something, but at least we can say we tried it. Kitsumi I think I understand your explanation. Thank you for that...I actually feel less dumb now, which is awesome Idioms in my language can ´ t be translated into English properly too Especially if this really was the last patch like it's rumored by some. Usually they let us know right away when they started a new patch. I haven't heard anything yet.
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Post by Kaidan Fan on Jul 7, 2017 17:01:08 GMT
Kitsumi I visited the thread and voted "me too" and then gave some exp. I also commented. I love this thread and the people in it. The passion for Liam shared by all is pretty great! I'm going to try and focus on the good stuff from now on though about his romance and if it's fixed that is wonderful, if not, I still have Liam . ashoken I would LOVE to see some DLC for this game as well. I would love for it to have more Liam and I hope he gets better treatment in it. Hopefully Ian will let them know that Liam does have fans that care about him.
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Post by Chiantirose on Jul 7, 2017 17:22:27 GMT
*Sigh* Why I am not surprised by this at all? Really don ´ t know what went wrong and why exactly...I have my theories, but I think it ´ s best to keep them to myself. Here's the gif with the modded Cora's scene, this happened to me when testing with my custom Ryder, remember this face? No expression at all and eyes open, but they still animate their entire body but not their face. I forgot to connect their face bones file to the models right so they don't animate their face. That's because it's a separated skeleton for the entire model and their face so I suspect this happens with our scene, they didn't connect their face bones right. So it's a bug like a house (something we said in my language but it doesn't sound that good in English ). So if I understand this correctly, there could be a chance that we actually have nice kissing animation in our love scenes, they're just bugged?
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Post by snuggels on Jul 7, 2017 17:23:56 GMT
Morning all! How are you doing today? *Hugs for all*. I posted here about Liam ending kiss answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/Liam-kiss-scene-wide-open-eyes/td-p/6147840 it was an existing post created tonight, can you enter and click the "Me Too" button and add some comment if you like?. Maybe they'll notice if we are many with the problem , I'll be happy if they fix the ending kiss at least... Done :kiss:
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Post by Kitsumi on Jul 7, 2017 17:41:34 GMT
So if I understand this correctly, there could be a chance that we actually have nice kissing animation in our love scenes, they're just bugged? Not exactly because for a proper kiss they have to animate it manually but with the bones attached they should at least make some gesture and move their eyes with a base animation which doesn't happen at all now. I hope this is not the last patch.. . Kaidan Fan Yeah, I'll always love Liam no matter what but I'll make everything I can for him with modding, posting or whatever . snuggels Thanks to you too !
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Post by Gilsa on Jul 7, 2017 19:21:38 GMT
Kitsumi -- Thank you for creating that report. You have a much better understanding of why that ending kiss doesn't look good (and thanks for that GIF of your Ryder and Liam, it helped me to understand much better what was creating the problem in the face) and you provided better evidence. I bookmarked it so I can go back and "grant XP" to the positive responses. I'm not sure what that actually does, but hey. A couple of other issues that I've seen discussed on the forums: 1. Liam mistakenly calling Ryder a jerk even though the player did not choose the dialogue to create that outcome. I have not personally encountered this so I would not be sure how to report this. If anyone has a better understanding and is willing to report it with their experiences, share the link here and I will upvote it and support it so it gets attention. 2. Liam stands too close to protagonist (glitch) if he is not in party for Eos.I had no idea about this until I saw that thread. (Might as well report it so it's one less thing for the non-fans to quibble about.) 3. The repeatable beer thing.I'm not sure if it's a bug anymore. After the patch yesterday, I loaded up different saves to see if there were any changes to Liam scenes. I had gone to the start of Liam's loyalty mission where he's all "oh hey, what's up, um, I got something I need to talk to you about." After that conversation ended, I clicked on him again (instead of going to the bridge to start the mission) and noticed that the "let's have a beer" was in the dialogue wheel. So I think it's always there, but will only show up if he's actually in the room. He's clearly on other parts of the ship for the banters so it would be odd to have a beer with him and then he's allllll the way back on top level if you wanted walk up there to have another beer again. Thoughts?
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Post by Kitsumi on Jul 7, 2017 20:32:58 GMT
I did it since the first day but thanks for spreading the word !. Gilsa I didn't start the report but helped with posting and my gifs and spread the word where I can, so the report for the ending kiss is done, what about the others? we should wait and see if they listen to us with this first?. Liam called my Ryder a jerk in my Jaal romance playthrough but I was nice with him all the time so no idea how that bug trigger, it's a mystery. I discovered that bug when he stands too close by testing things (because I always pick him for Eos anyways) but I thought it was nice you know lol and that repeatable beer option should appear in every place of the ship yep.
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Post by yeah rip on Jul 7, 2017 20:42:29 GMT
Kitsumi -- Thank you for creating that report. You have a much better understanding of why that ending kiss doesn't look good (and thanks for that GIF of your Ryder and Liam, it helped me to understand much better what was creating the problem in the face) and you provided better evidence. I bookmarked it so I can go back and "grant XP" to the positive responses. I'm not sure what that actually does, but hey. A couple of other issues that I've seen discussed on the forums: 1. Liam mistakenly calling Ryder a jerk even though the player did not choose the dialogue to create that outcome. I have not personally encountered this so I would not be sure how to report this. If anyone has a better understanding and is willing to report it with their experiences, share the link here and I will upvote it and support it so it gets attention. 2. Liam stands too close to protagonist (glitch) if he is not in party for Eos.I had no idea about this until I saw that thread. (Might as well report it so it's one less thing for the non-fans to quibble about.) 3. The repeatable beer thing.I'm not sure if it's a bug anymore. After the patch yesterday, I loaded up different saves to see if there were any changes to Liam scenes. I had gone to the start of Liam's loyalty mission where he's all "oh hey, what's up, um, I got something I need to talk to you about." After that conversation ended, I clicked on him again (instead of going to the bridge to start the mission) and noticed that the "let's have a beer" was in the dialogue wheel. So I think it's always there, but will only show up if he's actually in the room. He's clearly on other parts of the ship for the banters so it would be odd to have a beer with him and then he's allllll the way back on top level if you wanted walk up there to have another beer again. Thoughts? I don't know, if the beer thing isn't a bug, then it's at least very weirdly implemented. I didn't even know that scene existed until way into my second/third paythrough and I only discovered it by accident. I did the headbump thing with him because it always gives me fuzzies and I saw the beer option when I came back to talk to him. But since I wasn't actually going to romance him, I reloaded the whole segment and did the friend route and since I wanted to drag out the tempest dialogues a bit, I didn't pick the beer thing and went on to do some story stuff and that option was gone forever. I only learned that you could only trigger it in his room when I was at the point of the game where he wouldn't be going to his room at all anymore. I don't think it was meant to be that hard to get, because players like me who choose to stretch out the dialogues for RP reasons might not know about this option at all.
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Post by lulu on Jul 7, 2017 20:46:09 GMT
Hello guys! I've been silently reading this thread for a while now but I avoid writing in forums because I'd hate to accidentally be involved in any internet dramas. I decided to say hi today because reading your thoughts makes me feel much better that I am not alone. That I am not the only one who absolutely adores Liam's character and would definitely like to see improvements in his romance animations. I clicked the "me too" as Kitsumi suggested to at least try to show Bioware that there are indeed people who LIKE Liam and want to at least see a proper kiss! By the way, I hadn't been in any social media much before I finished the game because I wanted to stay spoiler-free, so I was in for a really big shock when I found out there was so much hate for Liam. I am really disappointed with the lack of content compared to other romances (why do I always have to fall for the less popular characters?? ). I was hoping that there would at least be some DLC with more Liam. Now with all those rumors of no DLCs it's hard to stay positive, but your screenshots guys and Kitsumi's awesome stuff help a lot!
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Post by Kitsumi on Jul 7, 2017 20:57:50 GMT
Hello guys! I've been silently reading this thread for a while now but I avoid writing in forums because I'd hate to accidentally be involved in any internet dramas. I decided to say hi today because reading your thoughts makes me feel much better that I am not alone. That I am not the only one who absolutely adores Liam's character and would definitely like to see improvements in his romance animations. I clicked the "me too" as Kitsumi suggested to at least try to show Bioware that there are indeed people who LIKE Liam and want to at least see a proper kiss! By the way, I hadn't been in any social media much before I finished the game because I wanted to stay spoiler-free, so I was in for a really big shock when I found out there was so much hate for Liam. I am really disappointed with the lack of content compared to other romances (why do I always have to fall for the less popular characters?? ). I was hoping that there would at least be some DLC with more Liam. Now with all those rumors of no DLCs it's hard to stay positive, but your screenshots guys and Kitsumi's awesome stuff help a lot! Hey! Welcome to the thread and the forum, don't be shy and post all you want, we all love Liam here and want the best for him. Thank you so much for click the "me too" button, it helps a lot, let's see if this going to something but I'm optimistic . We are used to those haters but the best is to not pay much attention to them you know . Despite him being neglected in some departments he's awesome and we love him so much so we won't give up with him, we have nothing to lose for trying it. It's hard to stay positive but we have to try it, for him . A big welcome again and thanks for show your support, it's nice to see new faces here and all the love for him, I'm really happy for that .
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Post by ashoken on Jul 7, 2017 21:03:50 GMT
Hello guys! I've been silently reading this thread for a while now but I avoid writing in forums because I'd hate to accidentally be involved in any internet dramas. I decided to say hi today because reading your thoughts makes me feel much better that I am not alone. That I am not the only one who absolutely adores Liam's character and would definitely like to see improvements in his romance animations. I clicked the "me too" as Kitsumi suggested to at least try to show Bioware that there are indeed people who LIKE Liam and want to at least see a proper kiss! By the way, I hadn't been in any social media much before I finished the game because I wanted to stay spoiler-free, so I was in for a really big shock when I found out there was so much hate for Liam. I am really disappointed with the lack of content compared to other romances (why do I always have to fall for the less popular characters?? ). I was hoping that there would at least be some DLC with more Liam. Now with all those rumors of no DLCs it's hard to stay positive, but your screenshots guys and Kitsumi's awesome stuff help a lot! Welcome lulu to #LiamEffect. Everyone's pretty nice here, even in the face of disappointment and internet trolls. We all love Liam and he's worth loving. He's a fantastically written character with personal growth who doesn't need the Pathfinder to define him. I could go on and on about why Liam is perceived as less popular, but it would turn into a rant. And I'd rather give you a Liam! Heels over head that you're here!
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Post by cmoe on Jul 7, 2017 21:04:00 GMT
Hello guys! I've been silently reading this thread for a while now but I avoid writing in forums because I'd hate to accidentally be involved in any internet dramas. I decided to say hi today because reading your thoughts makes me feel much better that I am not alone. That I am not the only one who absolutely adores Liam's character and would definitely like to see improvements in his romance animations. I clicked the "me too" as Kitsumi suggested to at least try to show Bioware that there are indeed people who LIKE Liam and want to at least see a proper kiss! By the way, I hadn't been in any social media much before I finished the game because I wanted to stay spoiler-free, so I was in for a really big shock when I found out there was so much hate for Liam. I am really disappointed with the lack of content compared to other romances (why do I always have to fall for the less popular characters?? ). I was hoping that there would at least be some DLC with more Liam. Now with all those rumors of no DLCs it's hard to stay positive, but your screenshots guys and Kitsumi's awesome stuff help a lot! Welcome! I love new people to the thread. Especially if they decide they want to share screenshots.
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Post by Kitsumi on Jul 7, 2017 21:08:22 GMT
Welcome! I love new people to the thread. Especially if they decide they want to share screenshots. That's the first rule! Liam and Ryder pics flooding the thread !!!!. Oh my god I love that pic ashoken !!.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 21:08:48 GMT
Hello guys! I've been silently reading this thread for a while now but I avoid writing in forums because I'd hate to accidentally be involved in any internet dramas. I decided to say hi today because reading your thoughts makes me feel much better that I am not alone. That I am not the only one who absolutely adores Liam's character and would definitely like to see improvements in his romance animations. I clicked the "me too" as Kitsumi suggested to at least try to show Bioware that there are indeed people who LIKE Liam and want to at least see a proper kiss! By the way, I hadn't been in any social media much before I finished the game because I wanted to stay spoiler-free, so I was in for a really big shock when I found out there was so much hate for Liam. I am really disappointed with the lack of content compared to other romances (why do I always have to fall for the less popular characters?? ). I was hoping that there would at least be some DLC with more Liam. Now with all those rumors of no DLCs it's hard to stay positive, but your screenshots guys and Kitsumi's awesome stuff help a lot! Hi! *waves* Always good to see another Liam fan you are definitely not the only one who likes him...I think there ´ s a lot more people who like Liam, but are afraid to say so, because they don ´ t want to be a target of online trolls. And who could blame them, right? Before MEA, I was never part of any fan forum or anything like that, but when I saw how poorly this game and people, who work on it are treated, I decided to voice my support. But I totally understand people, who don ´ t want to get involved in all that. Haters will always find their target...I was mocked several times for liking Liam, so I am used to it. It just shows how short - sighted those people truly are. They don ´ t understand that when a FICTIONAL character doesn ´ t agree with everything they say or do, it doesn ´ t necessarily mean that he is a bad character. And yeah, it ´ s really hard to stay positive because all those rumors and speculations. But being here with people, who like MEA as much as I do, really helps sometimes. I hope we will get some new information soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 21:32:31 GMT
Welcome! I love new people to the thread. Especially if they decide they want to share screenshots. That's the first rule! Liam and Ryder pics flooding the thread !!!!. Oh my god I love that pic ashoken !!. *coughs* Did anyone say...screenshots? imgur.com/8PNSJfi.pngimgur.com/aNED2zm.png
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Post by lulu on Jul 7, 2017 21:35:08 GMT
Wow, thank you all for the warm welcome!! I was half-expecting that my post would go unnoticed! ashoken , love that screeshot! @cmoe20, wish I had any good screenshots to share with you.. I'll see what I can do stargazer , the fact that this fictional character made his own efforts (even if they weren't perfectly executed) is exactly what I liked about Liam. I agree, that definitely doesn't make him a bad character.
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Post by cmoe on Jul 7, 2017 21:42:59 GMT
*coughs* Did anyone say...screenshots? I did, I did! Thank you Star! lulu I hope you stick around. I lurked for months before speaking up but I haven't seen any drama here. I also made some great friends! As a bonus, we have some very talented people in this thread.
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Post by Kitsumi on Jul 7, 2017 21:47:01 GMT
That's the first rule! Liam and Ryder pics flooding the thread !!!!. Oh my god I love that pic ashoken !!. *coughs* Did anyone say...screenshots? I have the first pic in a different angle....... but I'll show you it via PM .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 21:59:14 GMT
*coughs* Did anyone say...screenshots? I have the first pic in a different angle....... but I'll show you it via PM . Oh...I wasn ´ t ready for THAT ...you are true miracle worker.
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Post by cmoe on Jul 7, 2017 22:01:41 GMT
I have the first pic in a different angle....... but I'll show you it via PM . Oh...I wasn ´ t ready for THAT ...you are true miracle worker. Wasn't it glorious!
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Post by Gilsa on Jul 7, 2017 22:05:19 GMT
I did it since the first day but thanks for spreading the word !. Gilsa I didn't start the report but helped with posting and my gifs and spread the word where I can, so the report for the ending kiss is done, what about the others? we should wait and see if they listen to us with this first?. Liam called my Ryder a jerk in my Jaal romance playthrough but I was nice with him all the time so no idea how that bug trigger, it's a mystery. I discovered that bug when he stands too close by testing things (because I always pick him for Eos anyways) but I thought it was nice you know lol and that repeatable beer option should appear in every place of the ship yep. I'm still reading through the SavetheQuarians thread. I am getting called away from my desk like crazy today. I'll get to it! And you're right, I misread your post and thought you started that report. Thanks for the heads up. Whoever is "Favourite_Store," thank you! =D And nah on wait and see. Go ahead and file the reports now and share your links. If nothing comes of them, at least we know that we stepped up to the plate and swung for the fences.
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