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Post by mikaelnovasun on Feb 8, 2017 15:49:23 GMT
Hmm... what if despite Cora's speculated ultra-loyalty to Alec, it isn't necessarily returned? And that's why he chooses one of his children for Pathfinder instead (assuming he chooses us, rather than it being due to some unforeseen circumstance). Maybe he does discover a family connection between her and Jack Harper, and while the evidence isn't compelling enough to get rid of her as second-in-command, it is worrying enough to give him pause when it comes to passing on his fancy implant to her. But... plot twist: Cora doesn't actually know that she's TIM's daughter/niece whatever. Or there's some other reason he questions whether she can truly be trusted. But to her, assuming his doubts are unfounded, whatever they might be, it just looks she's been passed over. Regardless, I imagine Cora would be at least a little resentful at the turn of events (whether it's coincidental or not), but I could see her putting the mission first and being professional about it. So maybe we don't actually know that's how she feels until that point in our relationship where we've either proven ourselves to her, or not, and she admits it. I wouldn't mind if there was that bit of tension in the beginning of our working with her, as long as we can move past it. And though I'm not interested in romancing her myself, that dynamic could make things interesting in that regard too. I don't think Alec will have any say in who is the next pathfinder. I think he goes missing, or leaves under mysterious circumstances and finding out what happened to him and what his motives are is part of the main story line. Also why would he worry about Cora's family connection when TIM will have been dead for a very long time. It was a 600 year journey to Andromeda in stasis.
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Post by fialka on Feb 8, 2017 16:02:03 GMT
I don't think Alec will have any say in who is the next pathfinder. I think he goes missing, or leaves under mysterious circumstances and finding out what happened to him and what his motives are is part of the main story line. Also why would he worry about Cora's family connection when TIM will have been dead for a very long time. It was a 600 year journey to Andromeda in stasis. Even if TIM will be dead, it doesn't mean he won't question Cora's motives if he suspects she has Cerberus ties. Being in the Alliance, it's not out of the question he would have crossed paths with them at some point, especially with them gaining notoriety thanks to Shepard during the events of ME2. And I agree that it's more likely Alec won't have a say in who replaces him as Pathfinder, but there's no way to know for sure. He could even have programmed some sort of fail safe in SAM prior (since he likely had at least a hand in developing it) to make sure it goes to one of his kids should something happen to him. Or maybe, Ellen did... Again, I'm just theorizing at this point. Us getting the implant instead of Cora could well be by accident, or through SAM's doing. But if it is Alec's, or even Ellen's, perhaps it has something to do with Cora specifically.
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Post by Iakus on Feb 8, 2017 16:40:28 GMT
In her bio on the website, she's described as professional and 'loyal.' Loyal to Alec Ryder maybe, and that's why she tagging along? I wonder if she's been with Alec Ryder for a while as part of his team. Not talking a romantic relationship here (because Scott... yikes!) but something like how Joker tells Shepard he'd follow her into hell or an un-romanced but ultra-loyal Garrus would. But we know how Shepard earns that kind of loyalty. How did Alec? Did he help her with her daddy issues? I wonder if that loyalty is why she stays with the Pathfinder twin too - out of duty to our father as much as to the Initiative. Hmmm... Alec's bio says that he was a military attaché on the Citadel from the late 2160s, so since Cora was a young teenager if we guess her age to be 30-ish. If she served with him in some capacity it would seemingly have to be there. I suppose it's possible... If so, he could've used his contacts to get her a place on the Valkyrie Program, and maybe she's grateful to him for that opportunity. It could work as a plausible back story. Wouldn't that also make her Jaheira 2.0?
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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Feb 8, 2017 17:26:22 GMT
Hmmm... Alec's bio says that he was a military attaché on the Citadel from the late 2160s, so since Cora was a young teenager if we guess her age to be 30-ish. If she served with him in some capacity it would seemingly have to be there. I suppose it's possible... If so, he could've used his contacts to get her a place on the Valkyrie Program, and maybe she's grateful to him for that opportunity. It could work as a plausible back story. Wouldn't that also make her Jaheira 2.0? I wouldn't know as I've never played the Baldur's Gate games. That said, I rarely agree with such assertions as characters are pretty much always more complex than people give them credit for when finding story elements and personality traits that overlap and saying "Oh that's just the new X" usually followed by something along the lines of "lazy writing".
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Post by ProbeAway on Feb 8, 2017 22:41:28 GMT
What if Cora simply isn't around when Ryder becomes Pathfinder? There is a snippet of footage from Dec 1 that shows what I think is the first world, and Liam is the only squadmate. Perhaps Cora is missing when Ryder unofficially takes the lead, and respects him/her enough not to rock the boat when she rejoins the team.
Or maybe she's happier as 2IC and just doesn't want the gig.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 8, 2017 22:46:25 GMT
What if Cora simply isn't around when Ryder becomes Pathfinder? There is a snippet of footage from Dec 1 that shows what I think is the first world, and Liam is the only squadmate. Perhaps Cora is missing when Ryder unofficially takes the lead, and respects him/her enough not to rock the boat when she rejoins the team. Or maybe she's happier as 2IC and just doesn't want the gig. I'm thinking they are going to maybe do what they did with Cassandra and the Inquisitor, where for part of the game Cora is the Pathfinder and then after we prove ourselves or something she steps down and serves as our XO.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 8, 2017 22:58:42 GMT
What if Cora simply isn't around when Ryder becomes Pathfinder? There is a snippet of footage from Dec 1 that shows what I think is the first world, and Liam is the only squadmate. Perhaps Cora is missing when Ryder unofficially takes the lead, and respects him/her enough not to rock the boat when she rejoins the team. Or maybe she's happier as 2IC and just doesn't want the gig. The shot is almost surely from when the crash happens and Liam is probably the first squadmate we encounter.
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Post by Walter Black on Feb 8, 2017 23:08:42 GMT
How many people even knew Jack Harper became the Illusive Man? I don't think anyone used that name in the actual games, not to mention the theory that "Jack Harper" was just an alias. Myself, I have no problem with potential Humanity First types (though preferably with more complexity than "space Nazis" ), I would prefer the organization itself make no actual appearance in Andromeda. That, and Harper name being just another Smith and Jones.
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Post by GannayevOfDreams on Feb 8, 2017 23:27:54 GMT
I don't think it was ever used in-game. Unless it was in the Codex, I never really studied that thing too deeply. Cora's name might just be a coincidence played up as an easter egg.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 8, 2017 23:33:56 GMT
I don't think it was ever used in-game. Unless it was in the Codex, I never really studied that thing too deeply. Cora's name might just be a coincidence played up as an easter egg. That, and trolling with the fanbase, since they knew a lot of people would've thought of TIM .
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Post by ProbeAway on Feb 9, 2017 0:51:43 GMT
What if Cora simply isn't around when Ryder becomes Pathfinder? There is a snippet of footage from Dec 1 that shows what I think is the first world, and Liam is the only squadmate. Perhaps Cora is missing when Ryder unofficially takes the lead, and respects him/her enough not to rock the boat when she rejoins the team. Or maybe she's happier as 2IC and just doesn't want the gig. The shot is almost surely from when the crash happens and Liam is probably the first squadmate we encounter. Agreed, I just wonder if maybe that incident renders Cora MIA or puts her out of action temporarily.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 9, 2017 0:53:08 GMT
The shot is almost surely from when the crash happens and Liam is probably the first squadmate we encounter. Agreed, I just wonder if maybe that incident renders Cora MIA or puts her out of action temporarily. I personally don't think it's either, and there's specific reason for Ryder to become the new Pathfinder, but we'll see.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 9, 2017 0:54:01 GMT
The shot is almost surely from when the crash happens and Liam is probably the first squadmate we encounter. Agreed, I just wonder if maybe that incident renders Cora MIA or puts her out of action temporarily. Maybe, though I think more likely the Tempest comes at the end of the mission and she and Alec step out to save you and Liam as well as any other possible survivors from the shuttles.
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Post by ProbeAway on Feb 9, 2017 1:03:42 GMT
Agreed, I just wonder if maybe that incident renders Cora MIA or puts her out of action temporarily. Maybe, though I think more likely the Tempest comes at the end of the mission and she and Alec step out to save you and Liam as well as any other possible survivors from the shuttles. I've been assuming that the initial accident is where Alec is lost. If he comes back to save you then there would have to be some subsequent incident he is involved in.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 1:05:44 GMT
Wonder what kind of biotic implants Cora has. Maybe L2 like kaidan?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 9, 2017 1:19:07 GMT
Wonder what kind of biotic implants Cora has. Maybe L2 like kaidan? L2 or maybe L3 I would have thought. L£ would be more likely as I remember Chakwas said that most biotics had changed to L3 by the time of ME1 and that Kaidan was one of the few still using L2's.
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Post by bshep on Feb 9, 2017 2:06:16 GMT
Wonder what kind of biotic implants Cora has. Maybe L2 like kaidan? Since she looks older than Scott maybe she did also trained at BAaT when the L2 implants were still being used by the Alliance. That could also explain why she was accepted to work with Asari commandos since Kaidan (a L2) is reportedly as having biotic power on par with them.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Feb 9, 2017 2:41:05 GMT
Wonder what kind of biotic implants Cora has. Maybe L2 like kaidan? Probably prototype/custom implants that were designed by Dr Ellen Ryder. Given that the implant used to interface with SAM is a biotic neural implant that was designed by Ellen in conjunction her husband's development of the artificial intelligence.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 2:51:53 GMT
Wonder what kind of biotic implants Cora has. Maybe L2 like kaidan? She needs better B implants for sure
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Post by Mihura on Feb 9, 2017 2:57:03 GMT
Wonder what kind of biotic implants Cora has. Maybe L2 like kaidan? She needs better B implants for sure
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Post by glitch89 on Feb 9, 2017 3:05:37 GMT
Wonder what kind of biotic implants Cora has. Maybe L2 like kaidan? She needs better B implants for sure
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Post by bshep on Feb 9, 2017 3:27:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 3:33:47 GMT
Wonder what kind of biotic implants Cora has. Maybe L2 like kaidan? Since she looks older than Scott maybe she did also trained at BAaT when the L2 implants were still being used by the Alliance. That could also explain why she was accepted to work with Asari commandos since Kaidan (a L2) is reportedly as having biotic power on par with them. Yea, she certainly seems like she would have biotic power on par with commandos and battlemasters like wrex. We have not seen too many vanguard characters in Mass Effect and the ones we have seen were respected to some extent. Considering that she worked with asari commandos her biotics must have been somewhat considerable beforehand so I think she got them early on which is why L2 implant seem like the likely ones that she would have. Hoping that Drack is a biotic so we can perhaps have some conversations between them about their experiences with biotics. PeeBee also has biotics so maybe they'll compare their experiences as well, Cora I imagine is more disciplined and more concentrated like Miranda with her biotics while PeeBee I imagine did not go through any official training and was self taught.
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Post by JayKay on Feb 9, 2017 5:49:45 GMT
Heheh, I just had an amazing idea. Since Cora is the first squadmate who can actually use biotic charge...I don't know if it would be even possible in the regular game, but what if for her loyalty mission, which will undoubtedly put us against a whole bunch of people, what if the game measures how many points into biotic charge your character has, and if you have enough, both you and Cora biotic charge the bad guy together! Can you imagine that? Poor fucker would probably end up as soup.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 5:59:34 GMT
Heheh, I just had an amazing idea. Since Cora is the first squadmate who can actually use biotic charge...I don't know if it would be even possible in the regular game, but what if for her loyalty mission, which will undoubtedly put us against a whole bunch of people, what if the game measures how many points into biotic charge your character has, and if you have enough, both you and Cora biotic charge the bad guy together! Can you imagine that? Poor fucker would probably end up as soup. Ragdolls would be beautiful, but all biotic users pale in comparison to this guy: ...however...Cora can ascend and become a biotic goddess.
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