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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Feb 12, 2017 0:52:57 GMT
I tend to disagree, because from what they've shared, Vetra seems not to be someone used to military discipline. She's someone from the world of smugglers with "street smarts". I'd expect that initially at least there will be some friction and disagreement over the approach necessary in certain situations, although with time they may grow to trust each other. Some interesting stuff came up from this thread that was made just now: "Based upon your dialogue choices, there can be tensions in the team." bsn.boards.net/thread/26/effect-andromeda-twitter-discussion-thread?page=689I think you're right that they'll have tactical disagreements and judging by this, what we say can affect the relationships between the squad. Yeah I saw that. Obviously there is also a great deal of scope for tension between a military woman like Cora and a "free spirit" like PeeBee, which could be magnified depending on how they choose to play Cora's history with the Asari vs PeeBee's rejection of their culture.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 0:56:52 GMT
Yeah I saw that. Obviously there is also a great deal of scope for tension between a military woman like Cora and a "free spirit" like PeeBee, which could be magnified depending on how they choose to play Cora's history with the Asari vs PeeBee's rejection of their culture. Maybe PeeBee even has a history with these asari commandos that Cora worked with as well as Cora herself. Would be an interesting dynamic to play the mediator or instigator like in the trilogy between Miranda/Jack. I can also see them having the same interactions as Aveline/Isabela where Cora tries to be serious, but peeBee deflects her seriousness with humor.
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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Feb 12, 2017 1:14:29 GMT
Yeah I saw that. Obviously there is also a great deal of scope for tension between a military woman like Cora and a "free spirit" like PeeBee, which could be magnified depending on how they choose to play Cora's history with the Asari vs PeeBee's rejection of their culture. Maybe PeeBee even has a history with these asari commandos that Cora worked with as well as Cora herself. Would be an interesting dynamic to play the mediator or instigator like in the trilogy between Miranda/Jack. I can also see them having the same interactions as Aveline/Isabela where Cora tries to be serious, but peeBee deflects her seriousness with humor. I liked how in DA2 Isabela and Aveline grew to respect each other in the end. Something similar happened with Cassandra and Sera in DAI, especially in Trespasser. It will be interesting to see to what extent the player's choices really have an impact on how such relationships play out in MEA...
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Post by GannayevOfDreams on Feb 12, 2017 4:34:39 GMT
Maybe PeeBee even has a history with these asari commandos that Cora worked with as well as Cora herself. Would be an interesting dynamic to play the mediator or instigator like in the trilogy between Miranda/Jack. I can also see them having the same interactions as Aveline/Isabela where Cora tries to be serious, but peeBee deflects her seriousness with humor. I liked how in DA2 Isabela and Aveline grew to respect each other in the end. Something similar happened with Cassandra and Sera in DAI, especially in Trespasser. It will be interesting to see to what extent the player's choices really have an impact on how such relationships play out in MEA... I could totally see Cora and Peebee being the next iteration of that. Though, Peebee may have competition for that role from Vetra. Vetra seems like she plays very loose with the rules with her tagline being "making deals for the stuff you want, shooting the stuff you don't". Typically that kind of attitude is associated with shifty underground types that skirt the very edge of the law. Which would naturally clash with Cora's more lawful based inclinations.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 4:44:07 GMT
Maybe PeeBee even has a history with these asari commandos that Cora worked with as well as Cora herself. Would be an interesting dynamic to play the mediator or instigator like in the trilogy between Miranda/Jack. I can also see them having the same interactions as Aveline/Isabela where Cora tries to be serious, but peeBee deflects her seriousness with humor. I liked how in DA2 Isabela and Aveline grew to respect each other in the end. Something similar happened with Cassandra and Sera in DAI, especially in Trespasser. It will be interesting to see to what extent the player's choices really have an impact on how such relationships play out in MEA...One thing I liked about DAI was how we could involve ourselves in some of our companions' banter. I don't know if MEA would implement that system for the banter that we have just by exploring, but it would be one method they could implement for us to affect relationships between squad members, including Ryder. I mean aside from some forced lines that would be delivered depending on certain decisions or situations you made such as romancing a character, the mass Effect trilogy didn't really allow us to involve ourselves with banter that would occur outside the ship. The support/don't support stuff that we got is a start, but I think if you were walking with your squad and, for example, Drack and Cora were talking about something that your character would likely not dismiss, you can opt to bring up the wheel and click on a response.
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Post by Crim on Feb 12, 2017 5:11:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 5:17:04 GMT
*kneels* Forgive me Cora, I have sinned for not giving your thread the fanart it deserves every page. I shall try to post fanart next page.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 5:18:50 GMT
How did we get off the topic of her hair?
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Post by GannayevOfDreams on Feb 12, 2017 5:20:16 GMT
I think that's been posted in this thread before. Not that I mind seeing it again, it's pretty awesome. We do need more fanart regardless.
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Post by Crim on Feb 12, 2017 5:24:27 GMT
I think that's been posted in this thread before. Not that I mind seeing it again, it's pretty awesome. We do need more fanart regardless. It has, but it doesn't hurt to see it again, pretty sweet piece. Haven't seen any new Cora stuff lately, lots n' lots of Vetra around tho.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 5:30:16 GMT
I think that's been posted in this thread before. Not that I mind seeing it again, it's pretty awesome. We do need more fanart regardless. It has, but it doesn't hurt to see it again, pretty sweet piece. Haven't seen any new Cora stuff lately, lots n' lots of Vetra around tho. Yea with Cora being confirmed a LI for Scott I would have figured there would be some ScottxCora art going around and even some Saraxcora stuff from people hoping she's bi.
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Post by GannayevOfDreams on Feb 12, 2017 5:41:11 GMT
I think that's been posted in this thread before. Not that I mind seeing it again, it's pretty awesome. We do need more fanart regardless. It has, but it doesn't hurt to see it again, pretty sweet piece. Haven't seen any new Cora stuff lately, lots n' lots of Vetra around tho. It has, but it doesn't hurt to see it again, pretty sweet piece. Haven't seen any new Cora stuff lately, lots n' lots of Vetra around tho. Yea with Cora being confirmed a LI for Scott I would have figured there would be some ScottxCora art going around and even some Saraxcora stuff from people hoping she's bi. Unfortunately... Cora has the misfortune of just being a boring ol' human. Jaal is a new interesting alien, and Vetra is the first female Turian squadmate. An exclusive distinction amongst an already rare breed.
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Post by Crim on Feb 12, 2017 5:45:09 GMT
It has, but it doesn't hurt to see it again, pretty sweet piece. Haven't seen any new Cora stuff lately, lots n' lots of Vetra around tho. Yea with Cora being confirmed a LI for Scott I would have figured there would be some ScottxCora art going around and even some Saraxcora stuff from people hoping she's bi. If (lol I won't be holding my breathe) Cora is confirmed for Bi tho, tumblr will then be bountiful with new pieces. F/F is far and away the more popular with ships over there. I suppose Vetra and Jaal have more people curious tho, both are pretty shiny, can't blame em.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 5:45:10 GMT
It has, but it doesn't hurt to see it again, pretty sweet piece. Haven't seen any new Cora stuff lately, lots n' lots of Vetra around tho. Yea with Cora being confirmed a LI for Scott I would have figured there would be some ScottxCora art going around and even some Saraxcora stuff from people hoping she's bi. Unfortunately... Cora has the misfortune of just being a boring ol' human. Jaal is a new interesting alien, and Vetra is the first female Turian squadmate. An exclusive distinction amongst an already rare breed. That's true. I guess until people can learn whether she's interesting or not in game the only thing that sticks out is her last name, the fact that she's worked with asari commandos, and the fact that she has biotic charge is the only thing that makes her stick out but imo her having biotic charge should be enough Some art with her biotic charging into a group of enemies would be really cool.
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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Feb 12, 2017 10:17:50 GMT
I could totally see Cora and Peebee being the next iteration of that. Though, Peebee may have competition for that role from Vetra. Vetra seems like she plays very loose with the rules with her tagline being "making deals for the stuff you want, shooting the stuff you don't". Typically that kind of attitude is associated with shifty underground types that skirt the very edge of the law. Which would naturally clash with Cora's more lawful based inclinations. Yes that's what I was alluding to in my previous post. There's definitely room for friction in that relationship, too, given the character descriptions we've been given. I get the impression from the trailer that she will almost have a big-sister role in her relationship with Liam. I don't think we can really predict much about Drack yet beyond Krogan stereotypes, and Jaal... Well maybe she likes his monocle? One thing I liked about DAI was how we could involve ourselves in some of our companions' banter. I don't know if MEA would implement that system for the banter that we have just by exploring, but it would be one method they could implement for us to affect relationships between squad members, including Ryder. I mean aside from some forced lines that would be delivered depending on certain decisions or situations you made such as romancing a character, the mass Effect trilogy didn't really allow us to involve ourselves with banter that would occur outside the ship. The support/don't support stuff that we got is a start, but I think if you were walking with your squad and, for example, Drack and Cora were talking about something that your character would likely not dismiss, you can opt to bring up the wheel and click on a response. I really hope that they manage to implement a more dynamic system of companion interaction, but on the other hand we must recognise that each time they branch a story, they're adding a whole load of writing, VA work and possibly cinematics that many people won't see, and they only have a certain amount of resources to play with. That said, Fryda Wolff and Tom Taylorson have certainly hinted that they did huge amounts of work, which augurs well, and as we've discussed, there's certainly potential for interesting interactions between Cora, PeeBee and Vetra.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Feb 12, 2017 13:15:32 GMT
Speaking of fan art I am waiting for someone to make Cora's armor look like Captain Marvel's costume, similar to what an artist did on deviantart art with Shepard's armor having a Captain America theme. First time I saw Cora I immediately thought of this:
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Ugh, Captain Marvel... Civil War 2 did her character no favours with her Minority Report antics.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 16:32:02 GMT
Just had a thought when I remembered Neil's tweet:
What if Cora is one of these people that joined the initiative to get away from the Milky Way? She is described as someone who would sometimes bend the rules if necessary. Maybe she felt like she couldn't do anything in the Milky Way with all the red tape and decided a fresh start was needed.
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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Feb 12, 2017 16:48:51 GMT
Just had a thought when I remembered Neil's tweet: What if Cora is one of these people that joined the initiative to get away from the Milky Way? She is described as someone who would sometimes bend the rules if necessary. Maybe she felt like she couldn't do anything in the Milky Way with all the red tape and decided a fresh start was needed. I think that's a possibility. I hate to bring up TIM but it may be that she signed up to get away from him... Jen G @caravaggio4lyfe what does peebee find attractive in people 👀 Neil Pollner @neilpollner Open-mindedness. Self-reliance. Unconventionality. And I'm going to say asymmetry. Italian_Pathfinder @italiann791 *confused* Asymmetry? Is this about the personality or the appearance? Neil Pollner @neilpollnerI imagine in her world, oddity and incongruency are fascinating. Things that add up perfectly are suspicious. I was also thinking about this exchange that you posted a few days ago. If there's one person who's appearance is asymmetric, it's Cora. I'm now imagining some sort of rivalmance developing between them if you leave them to their own devices. Of course it seems as though he was talking about something deeper than looks (and also Jaal is asymmetric with his monocle on...)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 16:58:09 GMT
*snip* Jen G @caravaggio4lyfe what does peebee find attractive in people 👀 Neil Pollner @neilpollner Open-mindedness. Self-reliance. Unconventionality. And I'm going to say asymmetry. Italian_Pathfinder @italiann791 *confused* Asymmetry? Is this about the personality or the appearance? Neil Pollner @neilpollnerI imagine in her world, oddity and incongruency are fascinating. Things that add up perfectly are suspicious. I was also thinking about this exchange that you posted a few days ago. If there's one person who's appearance is asymmetric, it's Cora. I'm now imagining some sort of rivalmance developing between them if you leave them to their own devices. Of course it seems as though he was talking about something deeper than looks (and also Jaal is asymmetric with his monocle on...) Yeah, what i got from those adjectives was that Peebee admires acceptance/open-mindedness (one evidence that supports her bi orientation imo) and not judging people by their looks as well as also being creative and "down-to-earth." As for asymmetrical, it shows that she might be good at reading people and knowing exactly what will tick them off or make them feel good. Edit: I can see Cora having some decent intuition knowing when things are going to get bad, knowing when to involve herself in a situation, etc. As for her appearance, I think Cora fits the bills in some ways...but I think the mental/personality meaning is what Neil was getting at.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 17:51:28 GMT
I've made this argument in another thread but the playersexual route is actually the most efficient and resource-friendly way to give as many different people something they could get behind. "Playersexual" is a misnomer. If, over the course of multiple playthroughs, a character can enter a relationship with either gender, then they are bisexual. ... or pansexual. Unless you view each individual playthrough as an alternate universe. I think a lot of people tend to assume that apparent orientation == actual orientation, which is simply not so irl. There is a female mod on this board who is married to a man irl, and a lot of people who know her probably assume she is straight - but she isn't. And I think that DA2's Aveline is a pretty good example of people making assumptions about sexual orientation. As the game opens, Aveline is married to Ser Wesley, and later on marries Guardsman Donnic. I've seen a lot of people state that Aveline is straight - but I'm not convinced. Female Hawke can flirt up a storm with her, and she (Aveline) will eventually ask whether there was anything between them. Aveline will also plant a long kiss on Female Hawke in certain circumstances. I guess I just don't have much need to make assumptions about the sexual orientation of fictional characters. The only one of interest to me is the one my character is trying to romance, and if my character is turned down, it may be for reasons other than gender.
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Post by Panda on Feb 12, 2017 17:59:58 GMT
Speaking of fan art I am waiting for someone to make Cora's armor look like Captain Marvel's costume, similar to what an artist did on deviantart art with Shepard's armor having a Captain America theme. First time I saw Cora I immediately thought of this: Huh so I'm not only one who thought she looked bit like Captain Marvel
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