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Post by wright1978 on Feb 17, 2017 16:22:07 GMT
But her own service history already makes her an appealing candidate, so she wouldn't need any stupid daddy favour plot You do realize the two are not mutually exclusive? Or that we can go full conspiracy theory and say her entire service history was achieved according to his design? Not sure why you're so on about this. I mean I would hate any connection because I'm just tired of TIM and Cerberus. But if you had to have one, this is the way I'd go because it's something different and it betters the character of TIM posthumously. It does not detract from Cora one iota. I don't like it because it's completely redundant plot point due to her own desire and competence to be part of the project. All it does is casts a shadow of doubt over that competence. It doesn't also do anything for me in terms of TIM. He wants to protect his daughter from everything he believes in and conveniently she just as much wants to get away. It doesn't do much storywise either for me. Either she's the innocent waif who uncovers who daddy really was.(which plays badly to both character (She being too stupid/lacking in curiosity to discover truth, him so scummy to deprive her of any truth about him) or she knows and fled(smacks very much of Miranda's story). Personally if she is his daughter then i actually think a real Cerberus connection as an actual representative of Cerberus' goals in Andromeda is far more potential in terms of story.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Feb 17, 2017 17:25:33 GMT
You do realize the two are not mutually exclusive? Or that we can go full conspiracy theory and say her entire service history was achieved according to his design? Not sure why you're so on about this. I mean I would hate any connection because I'm just tired of TIM and Cerberus. But if you had to have one, this is the way I'd go because it's something different and it betters the character of TIM posthumously. It does not detract from Cora one iota. I don't like it because it's completely redundant plot point due to her own desire and competence to be part of the project. All it does is casts a shadow of doubt over that competence. It doesn't also do anything for me in terms of TIM. He wants to protect his daughter from everything he believes in and conveniently she just as much wants to get away. It doesn't do much storywise either for me. Either she's the innocent waif who uncovers who daddy really was.(which plays badly to both character (She being too stupid/lacking in curiosity to discover truth, him so scummy to deprive her of any truth about him) or she knows and fled(smacks very much of Miranda's story). Personally if she is his daughter then i actually think a real Cerberus connection as an actual representative of Cerberus' goals in Andromeda is far more potential in terms of story. Her being a Cerberus agent/representative seems like a rehashing of a story line. We already had two in the squad in previous games. Cerberus' story arc ran from ME1 to its conclusion in ME3. We saw it start out as a rogue Black Ops group, to an organization spanning the galaxy until its downfall as a result of Shepard's actions and TIM's indoctrination. Besides it would diminish her, she would not be joining based on her own merits but because her father put her there to further his belief of "humanity first".
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Post by DayusMakhina on Feb 17, 2017 17:28:50 GMT
Not sure if what we see there is Cora using Nova (?!) or just her melee?
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Feb 17, 2017 17:38:15 GMT
Not sure if what we see there is Cora using Nova (?!) or just her melee? Biotic charge paired with a sword... Cora my girl, lets ROCK!! Is it March 21st yet?
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Post by Panda on Feb 17, 2017 17:46:17 GMT
Swords? One of twins is definitely going to assassin build!
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 17, 2017 18:23:29 GMT
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Post by Vall on Feb 17, 2017 18:43:27 GMT
Not sure if what we see there is Cora using Nova (?!) or just her melee? Looks like MEA Nova animation to me.
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Post by JayKay on Feb 18, 2017 6:15:53 GMT
I was reading some ME2-3 fanfiction and it got me thinking about the Tempest and the pathfinder's cabin. I think it would be great if Cora or all the love interests for that matter, moved into the cabin with Ryder once they moved beyond flirting and have established a relationship. Having that much room we better have something like that! It would be especially fun to tease our LI about it. "You're just sleeping with me for the bigger bed and the extra closet space, aren't you?" "No! ...Great bonus, though. " Let me throw this out there. What if TIM treated her as a daughter, and not a legacy or asset to be used? What if he actually showed her love, and kept all the Cerberus stuff hidden from her? Could she only know her father as Jack Harper and and not TIM of Cerberus? Maybe he even encouraged her to join the Asari commandos to see her better herself, and not simply as a chance for humans to advance in their understanding of Biotics? TIM was one of the few people who actually believed Shepard, and was making moves to prepare. What if Jack Harper encouraged her to join the Initiative because he knew what was coming, but keep his reason for that encouragement secret? What if Jack Harper and Alec Ryder do indeed know each other from the War, and Jack(not TIM in a sense) asks Alec to offer his daughter an opportunity she would be unlikely to pass up to get her out of reach of the Reaper threat? It would put TIM in a whole new light and show a human side to his character. I know I first proposed the idea of her and Tim having some type falling out in my first posts in this thread, but I find the idea of using Cora as a lens to see another side of TIM appealing while she still stands as a strong character on her own. What could be really interesting is it is only the player who knows the connection between Jack Harper and TIM, and the rest of the characters only know Jack Harper as a loving supportive father from what Cora shares. Edit: And let me clarify in regards to the player knowing. I mean you or me, not Ryder. Within the game's story no one knows Jack Harper is TIM. The only way that backstory would be even better is if we find this out from an audio message between Alec and TIM, and we get Martin Sheen to briefly reprise the character. Even if we can't get with her as a female Ryder, I'm sure there's going to be some good interactions between the two. Like, how did they put it in Citadel in the friendship scene with Femshep and Miranda? "Troubleshooting Space Divas?" Yes, that please.
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Post by davkar on Feb 18, 2017 7:29:42 GMT
Cora would be the second daughter TIM lost. The other one was Jack. She had his name too, was a biotic and used shotguns. In his grief he picked a new name, nay a persona!, and dedicated his life to a cause. He failed his daughters, but he won't fail humanity! It's true, you'll see. I would never dream of...mockery. I like to speculate about games and movies I enjoy. And it helps promote discussion while eagerly awaiting the game's release. Mock me all you want. I take it you are not a Mordin fan.
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Post by wright1978 on Feb 18, 2017 10:06:15 GMT
I don't like it because it's completely redundant plot point due to her own desire and competence to be part of the project. All it does is casts a shadow of doubt over that competence. It doesn't also do anything for me in terms of TIM. He wants to protect his daughter from everything he believes in and conveniently she just as much wants to get away. It doesn't do much storywise either for me. Either she's the innocent waif who uncovers who daddy really was.(which plays badly to both character (She being too stupid/lacking in curiosity to discover truth, him so scummy to deprive her of any truth about him) or she knows and fled(smacks very much of Miranda's story). Personally if she is his daughter then i actually think a real Cerberus connection as an actual representative of Cerberus' goals in Andromeda is far more potential in terms of story. Her being a Cerberus agent/representative seems like a rehashing of a story line. We already had two in the squad in previous games. Cerberus' story arc ran from ME1 to its conclusion in ME3. We saw it start out as a rogue Black Ops group, to an organization spanning the galaxy until its downfall as a result of Shepard's actions and TIM's indoctrination. Besides it would diminish her, she would not be joining based on her own merits but because her father put her there to further his belief of "humanity first". We had 2 when the focus was on a Cerberus ship. It's like saying it's a rehash that we've got former alliance or that n7's are in andromeda. the basis behind Cerberus, which was how does dynamic of human and aliens play out, certainly isn't played out as an idea. don't see it at all diminishing if she's there with her eyes wide open as the person trusted to independently represent their interest/philosophy.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 18, 2017 10:17:04 GMT
What do you think Cora's melee weapon will be? Considering her asari training I think it's likely she has an asari sword.
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Post by DayusMakhina on Feb 18, 2017 10:19:21 GMT
What do you think Cora's melee weapon will be? Considering her asari training I think it's likely she has an asari sword. God I hope not. She's supposed to be a powerful biotic... why waste your time with a sword when you can hit someone like a truck with a biotic punch?
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 18, 2017 10:29:55 GMT
What do you think Cora's melee weapon will be? Considering her asari training I think it's likely she has an asari sword. God I hope not. She's supposed to be a powerful biotic... why waste your time with a sword when you can hit someone like a truck with a biotic punch? I don't think they'll make a squadmate with both a biotic punch and nova, if she truly has the latter. I just think she'd have that based on her background and training.
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Post by Kaazmiin on Feb 18, 2017 13:58:42 GMT
Finally finished my first digital painting, drawing hard lines with a mouse is still somewhat impossible for me lol but Cora was very patient. She is a beautiful model! Source
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 18, 2017 18:23:25 GMT
On Gaf, shinobi said companions have alternate outfits like in ME2/ME3. What other type of armour would you like Cora to have?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 18:46:12 GMT
On Gaf, shinobi said companions have alternate outfits like in ME2/ME3. What other type of armour would you like Cora to have? Her own unique asari commando armor.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 18, 2017 18:48:14 GMT
On Gaf, shinobi said companions have alternate outfits like in ME2/ME3. What other type of armour would you like Cora to have? Her own unique asari commando armor. I'd like that.
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Post by wright1978 on Feb 18, 2017 18:52:56 GMT
On Gaf, shinobi said companions have alternate outfits like in ME2/ME3. What other type of armour would you like Cora to have? Her own unique asari commando armor. Shiala's ME1 look would be me fine.
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Post by thesupremedarkone on Feb 19, 2017 1:06:08 GMT
I see dat ass is still magnificent
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 1:09:52 GMT
Hope the next briefing we get will be voiced by Cora again. Her voice is just amazing.
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Post by Vall on Feb 19, 2017 1:21:54 GMT
Hope the next briefing we get will be voiced by Cora again. Her voice is just amazing. Booo, we already had Cora, I want one with Dad. Or maybe Liam
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 1:24:30 GMT
Hope the next briefing we get will be voiced by Cora again. Her voice is just amazing. Booo, we already had Cora, I want one with Dad. Or maybe Liam Or maybe Jall for no reason whatsoever. Talk about an official voice reveal lol but srsly tho Cora's voice is smooth. Hope every squadmate has thw same great sense of realism in their voice
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Post by Vall on Feb 19, 2017 1:27:15 GMT
Booo, we already had Cora, I want one with Dad. Or maybe Liam Or maybe Jaal for no reason whatsoever. Talk about an official voice reveal lol but srsly tho Cora's voice is smooth. Unlikely. Both dad and Liam are more likely than Jaal.
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