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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 21, 2017 5:41:19 GMT
Here are my tweets and yes let's hope. Never had to kiss up to someone on the internet this much to get a response SomebodyOfNobody @of_somebody @tibermoon who is Cora's face model? SomebodyOfNobody @of_somebody @tibermoon Cora looks great btw SomebodyOfNobody @of_somebody @tibermoon and if it helps get this answered you look great btw 😉 Lol you are laying on the compliments thick! Hopefully it works! I don't see why BioWare would take any issue with revealing to us who her face model is. It gives us something to do while we wait another month! It could be the face model doesn't want herself to be revealed for whatever reason and Bioware is honoring her wishes.
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Post by SKAR on Feb 21, 2017 5:50:15 GMT
With his qualifications, he makes the perfect Pathfinder. We don't know anything. No need for assumptions. I prefer to wait until we get the truth. What is suspect of him? Maybe there is something shady but the truth will come in due time. Maybe cerb, then again, maybe not. I would love to see Cora as TIM daughter but she'd have to come with daddy issues. I'm only suspicious of him because of the issues that happen with the Hyperion on route to Andromeda and how Alec Ryder quickly is taken out of the picture and his daughter/son is made the Pathfinder. Obviously, we don't have all the facts, but something seems to be really off about Alec Ryder. It somewhat reminds me of the opening of Jade Empire and how events rapidly unfold in that story. It's just speculation, but you have to admit it's a little strange that all these issues happen on his watch and then he just disappears from the scene. With his qualifications and everything he has done, it seems highly unusual things would deteriorate this quickly. I have asked ian frazier this and coupled it with a compliment. Let us see if we can't find out. Fantastic! Hopefully he'll give you a response so we can get a sense of how Cora is modeled after! Why does Cerberus have to be involved at all? Don't get me wrong, I'd accept Cerberus in Andromeda with open arms but it doesn't look that way. The way I see it, a rogue faction wanted power and got kicked off the station and killed people. That would explain the outlaw factions. Doesn't look like cerb to me. What motive would they have? Removed from time and space to the organization and the illusive man. Besides, they were focusing on Reapers. One of the devs mentioned on Twitter. Consider the fact that the Andromeda Initiative launches between ME1 and ME2. Cerberus had its hands in all affairs around the galaxy, and no doubt was TIM aware of the Andromeda Initiative in one way or another. I'm not necessarily suggesting Cerberus will have a huge role in the game, but I do think Cerberus will have a presence in some capacity. Don't forget that Cerberus had numerous projects, and that the reapers were just one of their interests. It wouldn't be that unreasonable to believe that TIM may have an interest in intergalactic travel and harnessing the power of other galaxy's for the benefit of humanity. TIM is an opportunist, so I can't see something like this merely being ignored by him. We'll see, but Cora's name is a clear suggestion that she may have a real connection to TIM. Alec certainly does something. Maybe he's looking for something on his own. He certainly doesn't die. He is gonna have a huge role, that much is clear. As for cerb, I doubt it. The main point of cerb was to keep humanity on top but ever since his experience with desolate he's been planning for the reapers and that is his main focus. But like I said, even if cerb has some involvement, I welcome it. As for the Nexus uprising, I think it's a power struggle.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 21, 2017 5:50:33 GMT
Lol you are laying on the compliments thick! Hopefully it works! I don't see why BioWare would take any issue with revealing to us who her face model is. It gives us something to do while we wait another month! It could be the face model doesn't want herself to be revealed for whatever reason and Bioware is honoring her wishes. I suppose that's true. Are you aware of any instances where that may have happened in the past? I'd be under the impression if the face model agreed to have her face used as a template to create a character, BioWare would at least have the right to disclose who it was to the public. I doubt any of these models are exactly doing this for free. I'm sure they are getting paid some sort of fee for BioWare using their likeness.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 21, 2017 5:55:00 GMT
It could be the face model doesn't want herself to be revealed for whatever reason and Bioware is honoring her wishes. I suppose that's true. Are you aware of any instances where that may have happened in the past? I'd be under the impression if the face model agreed to have her face used as a template to create a character, BioWare would at least have the right to disclose who it was to the public. I doubt any of these models are exactly doing this for free. I'm sure they are getting paid some sort of fee for BioWare using their likeness. Just because they are being paid by a company doesn't mean they want their identity being revealed before release. For example, I know that the moment that her face model is revealed she is going to receive a lot of messages from fans wanting to know about the game, just like what happens with the voice actors. Maybe she doesn't want to be pestered with countless questions before the game comes out. After the game comes out she may reveal herself since then those kinds of things won't happen.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 21, 2017 5:59:32 GMT
I'm only suspicious of him because of the issues that happen with the Hyperion on route to Andromeda and how Alec Ryder quickly is taken out of the picture and his daughter/son is made the Pathfinder. Obviously, we don't have all the facts, but something seems to be really off about Alec Ryder. It somewhat reminds me of the opening of Jade Empire and how events rapidly unfold in that story. It's just speculation, but you have to admit it's a little strange that all these issues happen on his watch and then he just disappears from the scene. With his qualifications and everything he has done, it seems highly unusual things would deteriorate this quickly. Fantastic! Hopefully he'll give you a response so we can get a sense of how Cora is modeled after! Consider the fact that the Andromeda Initiative launches between ME1 and ME2. Cerberus had its hands in all affairs around the galaxy, and no doubt was TIM aware of the Andromeda Initiative in one way or another. I'm not necessarily suggesting Cerberus will have a huge role in the game, but I do think Cerberus will have a presence in some capacity. Don't forget that Cerberus had numerous projects, and that the reapers were just one of their interests. It wouldn't be that unreasonable to believe that TIM may have an interest in intergalactic travel and harnessing the power of other galaxy's for the benefit of humanity. TIM is an opportunist, so I can't see something like this merely being ignored by him. We'll see, but Cora's name is a clear suggestion that she may have a real connection to TIM. Alec certainly does something. Maybe he's looking for something on his own. He certainly doesn't die. He is gonna have a huge role, that much is clear. As for cerb, I doubt it. The main point of cerb was to keep humanity on top but ever since his experience with desolate he's been planning for the reapers and that is his main focus. But like I said, even if cerb has some involvement, I welcome it. As for the Nexus uprising, I think it's a power struggle. The question is why would he abandon his post and his children "looking for something on his own"? This is why I think it's quite possible he may end up being an antagonist later in the story due to perhaps having a conflicting opinion on the role of humanity in the Helios Cluster. I suppose Andromeda may just take the Star Trek approach where Alec Ryder is similar to Captain Pike and is essentially a hostage and a bargaining chip for the Khet, but I couldn't see BioWare making him a damsel in distress given he's N7.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 21, 2017 6:02:31 GMT
I suppose that's true. Are you aware of any instances where that may have happened in the past? I'd be under the impression if the face model agreed to have her face used as a template to create a character, BioWare would at least have the right to disclose who it was to the public. I doubt any of these models are exactly doing this for free. I'm sure they are getting paid some sort of fee for BioWare using their likeness. Just because they are being paid by a company doesn't mean they want their identity being revealed before release. For example, I know that the moment that her face model is revealed she is going to receive a lot of messages from fans wanting to know about the game, just like what happens with the voice actors. Maybe she doesn't want to be pestered with countless questions before the game comes out. After the game comes out she may reveal herself since then those kinds of things won't happen. Well, I think some folks would pester her regardless of whether she revealed her identity before or after the release. Of course, she could just ignore social media if it was really that much of an issue. That's of course if the face model is really trying to conceal her identity from the public. I don't know what the general protocol is for BioWare when it comes to using models. Obviously, they've been doing this for a number of years and have had some high profile celebrities recreated in their games.
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Post by SKAR on Feb 21, 2017 6:03:15 GMT
Alec certainly does something. Maybe he's looking for something on his own. He certainly doesn't die. He is gonna have a huge role, that much is clear. As for cerb, I doubt it. The main point of cerb was to keep humanity on top but ever since his experience with desolate he's been planning for the reapers and that is his main focus. But like I said, even if cerb has some involvement, I welcome it. As for the Nexus uprising, I think it's a power struggle. The question is why would he abandon his post and his children "looking for something on his own"? This is why I think it's quite possible he may end up being an antagonist later in the story due to perhaps having a conflicting opinion on the role of humanity in the Helios Cluster. I suppose Andromeda may just take the Star Trek approach where Alec Ryder is similar to Captain Pike and is essentially a hostage and a bargaining chip for the Khet, but I couldn't see BioWare making him a damsel in distress given he's N7. I don't see him as an antagonist. It's too cliche. We already have an antagonist, the archon.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 21, 2017 6:11:30 GMT
The question is why would he abandon his post and his children "looking for something on his own"? This is why I think it's quite possible he may end up being an antagonist later in the story due to perhaps having a conflicting opinion on the role of humanity in the Helios Cluster. I suppose Andromeda may just take the Star Trek approach where Alec Ryder is similar to Captain Pike and is essentially a hostage and a bargaining chip for the Khet, but I couldn't see BioWare making him a damsel in distress given he's N7. I don't see him as an antagonist. It's too cliche. We already have an antagonist, the archon. Bioware confirmed on Twitter that Alec Ryder is not the antagonist.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 21, 2017 6:16:33 GMT
The question is why would he abandon his post and his children "looking for something on his own"? This is why I think it's quite possible he may end up being an antagonist later in the story due to perhaps having a conflicting opinion on the role of humanity in the Helios Cluster. I suppose Andromeda may just take the Star Trek approach where Alec Ryder is similar to Captain Pike and is essentially a hostage and a bargaining chip for the Khet, but I couldn't see BioWare making him a damsel in distress given he's N7. I don't see him as an antagonist. It's too cliche. We already have an antagonist, the archon. Is he really the antagonist though? From what BioWare has said, the Khet view humanity as the hostile invaders. From their perspective, we are the threat. It wouldn't be the first time BioWare has mislead us about who the real antagonist is. Do you remember Corypheus? He wasn't the actual real threat, assuming you played Trespasser. This also wouldn't be the first Mass Effect game to have multiple antagonists. ME1 had Saren and Sovereign. ME2 had the Collectors and Harbinger. ME3 had TIM, the Catalyst, and the Reapers. There has always been an ensemble of villains with their own motivations and their own goals.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 21, 2017 6:18:21 GMT
I don't see him as an antagonist. It's too cliche. We already have an antagonist, the archon. Bioware confirmed on Twitter that Alec Ryder is not the antagonist. BioWare has lied several times in the past about the role characters play in their stories, so I wouldn't give too much weight to what they say. Ultimately, they do not want to spoil the story. Even if Alec Ryder was the actual antagonist, do you really believe they would tell us? It would be a similar situation to Solas.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 21, 2017 6:20:08 GMT
Bioware confirmed on Twitter that Alec Ryder is not the antagonist. BioWare has lied several times in the past about the role characters play in their stories, so I wouldn't give too much weight to what they say. Ultimately, they do not want to spoil the story. Even if Alec Ryder was the actual antagonist, do you really believe they would tell us? It would be a similar situation to Solas. I believe they would not answer the question. Straight up lying would cause a backlash. We saw that with ME3 when all the things they said that were even close to lies were targeted and caused uproars, like how the endings wouldn't be A, B, or C or how the rachni would play a big role if you spared the queen. They never straight up denied that Solas was an antagonist. It was a lie of omission perhaps, but not a lie of commission like this would be.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 21, 2017 6:25:07 GMT
Solas wasn't an antagonist in DAI though. Alec would be in andromeda. On Archon, they said he isn't outright evil, as his race, but he'll be our rival/antagonist, depending on how you see it. Maybe something similar might happen with Alec, but there's also the chance he dies, or get captured.
Something that might lead credibility of a somehow connection with Cerberus, as someone theorized in the forum in those months, is that the early prototypes of the N7 armour colours weren't black and red, but black and orange/yellow. While it might've been an aesthetic choice, it They thought of him as N7 from the start, his armour wouldn't have been orange. But maybe the N7 part came out later, or maybe they designed that armour first for our pc and then went for Alec having one as well.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 21, 2017 6:26:54 GMT
BioWare has lied several times in the past about the role characters play in their stories, so I wouldn't give too much weight to what they say. Ultimately, they do not want to spoil the story. Even if Alec Ryder was the actual antagonist, do you really believe they would tell us? It would be a similar situation to Solas. I believe they would not answer the question. Straight up lying would cause a backlash. We saw that with ME3 when all the things they said that were even close to lies were targeted and caused uproars, like how the endings wouldn't be A, B, or C or how the rachni would play a big role if you spared the queen. They never straight up denied that Solas was an antagonist. It was a lie of omission perhaps, but not a lie of commission like this would be. The funny part of Solas is that they released that council meeting concept art where he had some wolflike features, as well as a kind of malicious smirk. People made many theories about it, they were quite bold in showing it
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 21, 2017 6:33:36 GMT
Solas wasn't an antagonist in DAI though. Alec would be in andromeda. On Archon, they said he isn't outright evil, as his race, but he'll be our rival/antagonist, depending on how you see it. Maybe something similar might happen with Alec, but there's also the chance he dies, or get captured. Something that might lead credibility of a somehow connection with Cerberus, as someone theorized in the forum in those months, is that the early prototypes of the N7 armour colours weren't black and red, but black and orange/yellow. While it might've been an aesthetic choice, it They thought of him as N7 from the start, his armour wouldn't have been orange. But maybe the N7 part came out later, or maybe they designed that armour first for our pc and then went for Alec having one as well. That armor you are referring to was shown as our protagonists during the Comic Con 2014 presentation. They showed male and female models of it and said that this was our protagonist. That's why at first when the 2015 Ghost Riders trailer came out, people at first thought that was us until their blog said that wasn't the protagonist we saw in the trailer.
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Post by Crim on Feb 21, 2017 6:33:49 GMT
BioWare has lied several times in the past about the role characters play in their stories, so I wouldn't give too much weight to what they say. Ultimately, they do not want to spoil the story. Even if Alec Ryder was the actual antagonist, do you really believe they would tell us? It would be a similar situation to Solas. I believe they would not answer the question. Straight up lying would cause a backlash. We saw that with ME3 when all the things they said that were even close to lies were targeted and caused uproars, like how the endings wouldn't be A, B, or C or how the rachni would play a big role if you spared the queen. They never straight up denied that Solas was an antagonist. It was a lie of omission perhaps, but not a lie of commission like this would be. Welp, I did ask Jo what's Cora's relationship with Alec like? She wouldn't get into it. And the TIM question I sent wasn't even responded too, so yeah, keeping it locked down.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 21, 2017 6:36:14 GMT
Solas wasn't an antagonist in DAI though. Alec would be in andromeda. On Archon, they said he isn't outright evil, as his race, but he'll be our rival/antagonist, depending on how you see it. Maybe something similar might happen with Alec, but there's also the chance he dies, or get captured. Something that might lead credibility of a somehow connection with Cerberus, as someone theorized in the forum in those months, is that the early prototypes of the N7 armour colours weren't black and red, but black and orange/yellow. While it might've been an aesthetic choice, it They thought of him as N7 from the start, his armour wouldn't have been orange. But maybe the N7 part came out later, or maybe they designed that armour first for our pc and then went for Alec having one as well. That armor you are referring to was shown as our protagonists during the Comic Con 2014 presentation. They showed male and female models of it and said that this was our protagonist. That's why at first when the 2015 Ghost Riders trailer came out, people at first thought that was us until their blog said that wasn't the protagonist we saw in the trailer. I know that (though I think they shown the orange one before). We don't know though if they already planned the whole family mechanic and Alec's role. Showing the pc of both genders in those doesn't mean they didn't already plan the part about Alec.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 21, 2017 7:13:48 GMT
BioWare has lied several times in the past about the role characters play in their stories, so I wouldn't give too much weight to what they say. Ultimately, they do not want to spoil the story. Even if Alec Ryder was the actual antagonist, do you really believe they would tell us? It would be a similar situation to Solas. I believe they would not answer the question. Straight up lying would cause a backlash. We saw that with ME3 when all the things they said that were even close to lies were targeted and caused uproars, like how the endings wouldn't be A, B, or C or how the rachni would play a big role if you spared the queen. They never straight up denied that Solas was an antagonist. It was a lie of omission perhaps, but not a lie of commission like this would be. Well, that depends on how the question was phrased. If they said nothing with regard to you, or someone else, asking if Alec was the antagonist, that could have partially given it away. Again, BioWare doesn't want to spoil the story if they can help it. From their perspective, telling a minor white lie to avoid spoilers would likely be justified. Also, rarely is anybody in Mass Effect ever pure "good" or "evil." None of the antagonists were that way. In essence, BioWare could be telling a half-truth that Alec isn't an antagonist, from a certain point of view. I just wouldn't so easily believe that the Archon is the main bad guy and there's no one else as BioWare rarely ever makes the villain that cookie cutter and obvious. That was certainly never the case in the Mass Effect trilogy. I don't see why Andromeda would change that tradition, which is why I wouldn't rule anyone out. Solas wasn't an antagonist in DAI though. Alec would be in andromeda. On Archon, they said he isn't outright evil, as his race, but he'll be our rival/antagonist, depending on how you see it. Maybe something similar might happen with Alec, but there's also the chance he dies, or get captured. Something that might lead credibility of a somehow connection with Cerberus, as someone theorized in the forum in those months, is that the early prototypes of the N7 armour colours weren't black and red, but black and orange/yellow. While it might've been an aesthetic choice, it They thought of him as N7 from the start, his armour wouldn't have been orange. But maybe the N7 part came out later, or maybe they designed that armour first for our pc and then went for Alec having one as well. I wouldn't exactly say he wasn't an antagonist. Solas did some rather questionable things if you paid attention. He wasn't your direct nemesis, but he wasn't necessarily on your side either. He also was clearly withholding information from the Inquisitor the entire time and never giving him/her more information than he/she needed to know at the time. If not for Solas, Corypheus would never have been a threat to start. I'm aware of what suggested role the Archon will play. All I'm stating is I wouldn't take everything you see at face value. We were led to believe Saren was the main enemy of ME1, and how wrong was that? BioWare has a storytelling history of deflecting the true villain. Most of BioWare's games have falsely presented a villain that was actually not the true threat. That certainly would give some credence to the Cerberus argument that Alec is an operative for TIM. That being said, I'd also likely view those early prototypes of the N7 armor (which has changed over time) as nothing more than early works in progress. If I recall correctly, the female variant was blue for no apparent reason. Perhaps there is a dye system in the game similar to ME2/ME3 where you could change the colors of the armor you wear? I believe they would not answer the question. Straight up lying would cause a backlash. We saw that with ME3 when all the things they said that were even close to lies were targeted and caused uproars, like how the endings wouldn't be A, B, or C or how the rachni would play a big role if you spared the queen. They never straight up denied that Solas was an antagonist. It was a lie of omission perhaps, but not a lie of commission like this would be. Welp, I did ask Jo what's Cora's relationship with Alec like? She wouldn't get into it. And the TIM question I sent wasn't even responded too, so yeah, keeping it locked down. Bummer. At this point they are likely going to play this close to the chest considering how close we are to release.
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Post by Lady Artifice on Feb 21, 2017 9:03:18 GMT
I don't see him as an antagonist. It's too cliche. We already have an antagonist, the archon. Is he really the antagonist though? From what BioWare has said, the Khet view humanity as the hostile invaders. From their perspective, we are the threat. It wouldn't be the first time BioWare has mislead us about who the real antagonist is. Do you remember Corypheus? He wasn't the actual real threat, assuming you played Trespasser. This also wouldn't be the first Mass Effect game to have multiple antagonists. ME1 had Saren and Sovereign. ME2 had the Collectors and Harbinger. ME3 had TIM, the Catalyst, and the Reapers. There has always been an ensemble of villains with their own motivations and their own goals. He's an antagonist regardless of his moral position. An antagonist is defined by their opposition to the protagonist, which in this case, is our character by the simple virtue of their being the one with the primary focus. It is entirely possible to have a villain protagonist, and a hero antagonist. To put it simply, even if you think the archon is a heroic figure, it doesn't do anything to affect his position as an antagonist, because villain and antagonist are not synonyms.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Feb 21, 2017 12:20:36 GMT
In regards to Alec seeming to have a "shady" reason for joining the Andromeda Initiative, he doesn't need one. Artificial Intelligence research and development is against galactic law within Council controlled space. Alec and Ellen Ryder working together developed SAM. They created a way for an ai to interface directly with the human mind. If the council ever got wind of that they would be shut down hard, and probably face prison time and/or severe sanctions. Joining the Initiative, lets them pursue their research without worry of reprisal from the Council. If there is something shady going on it is likely to be in regards to Ellen Ryder, all we know about her is she developed the implants that interface with SAM and she isn't part of the pathfinder team.
And as for Cora, I think it is highly likely she has some tie to Jack Harper and Eva Core. I just hope it isn't a heavy Cerberus connection tied with daddy issues. Regardless given what we do know about her, I can't wait to meet her.
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Post by Ocelot on Feb 21, 2017 12:33:19 GMT
I only just now notice that Cora's hair actually moves
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 21, 2017 13:12:01 GMT
I only just now notice that Cora's hair actually moves Yep, as well as the black haired woman in the combat trailer, even if slightly. There's definitely hair physics in the game.
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Post by SKAR on Feb 21, 2017 13:36:25 GMT
I don't see him as an antagonist. It's too cliche. We already have an antagonist, the archon. Bioware confirmed on Twitter that Alec Ryder is not the antagonist. IK
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Post by Crim on Feb 21, 2017 13:41:07 GMT
Is he really the antagonist though? From what BioWare has said, the Khet view humanity as the hostile invaders. From their perspective, we are the threat. It wouldn't be the first time BioWare has mislead us about who the real antagonist is. Do you remember Corypheus? He wasn't the actual real threat, assuming you played Trespasser. This also wouldn't be the first Mass Effect game to have multiple antagonists. ME1 had Saren and Sovereign. ME2 had the Collectors and Harbinger. ME3 had TIM, the Catalyst, and the Reapers. There has always been an ensemble of villains with their own motivations and their own goals. He's an antagonist regardless of his moral position. An antagonist is defined by their opposition to the protagonist, which in this case, is our character by the simple virtue of their being the one with the primary focus. It is entirely possible to have a villain protagonist, and a hero antagonist. To put it simply, even if you think the archon is a heroic figure, it doesn't do anything to affect his position as an antagonist, because villain and antagonist are not synonyms. I wonder if 6 will be our squad or perhaps we'll be getting a Khet squadmate. Seen a few people speculate this possibru being a thing.
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Post by Lady Artifice on Feb 21, 2017 14:57:46 GMT
He's an antagonist regardless of his moral position. An antagonist is defined by their opposition to the protagonist, which in this case, is our character by the simple virtue of their being the one with the primary focus. It is entirely possible to have a villain protagonist, and a hero antagonist. To put it simply, even if you think the archon is a heroic figure, it doesn't do anything to affect his position as an antagonist, because villain and antagonist are not synonyms. I wonder if 6 will be our squad or perhaps we'll be getting a Khet squadmate. Seen a few people speculate this possibru being a thing. I'd certainly prefer having a seventh. Until proven hopeless, I'm continuing to entertain my fantasy of there being a rival/lesser antagonist who turns optional squadmate (provided we invest in convincing them of our intentions throughout our encounters with them) after we defeat them. If such a character happened to be voiced by Nicholas Boulton and have a complicated romance route, that would basically be my ideal scenario.
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