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Post by Ocelot on Feb 22, 2017 9:23:34 GMT
Yeah, I miswrote and used the plural. I found her attractive as well, but I think it's normal that some might not find her as such. The kit didn't help in that, but the humans' were worse then their in game appearance, and not everyone understand that they're not rapresentative of the game, as it was for DAI. Indeed. I don't think it's really fair to judge until folks are actually able to play the game and see the final characters in action. Looking at the wallpaper, I can see why alot of people might not be a fan of her hairstyle. It probably would have looked better if she didn't have the shaved sides. I suppose it's a matter of opinion. For me, personally, the hairstyle isn't nearly as important as her facial features. That being said, I actually don't mind how her hair is cut. Not to mention, she is in the military, so having long, flowing hair wouldn't exactly make sense in the game. Her face looks fine for me. I'm not suggesting long hair. I like her short style.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 22, 2017 9:38:08 GMT
Indeed. I don't think it's really fair to judge until folks are actually able to play the game and see the final characters in action. I suppose it's a matter of opinion. For me, personally, the hairstyle isn't nearly as important as her facial features. That being said, I actually don't mind how her hair is cut. Not to mention, she is in the military, so having long, flowing hair wouldn't exactly make sense in the game. Her face looks fine for me. I'm not suggesting long hair. I like her short style. Fair enough. BioWare tends to try and always give their characters unique and defining looks. Since Cora has such a strong commitment to her duties and an appreciation for chain of command, BioWare probably felt going with a more military-type cut made sense for the character.
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Post by Ocelot on Feb 22, 2017 9:41:33 GMT
Her face looks fine for me. I'm not suggesting long hair. I like her short style. Fair enough. BioWare tends to try and always give their characters unique and defining looks. Since Cora has such a strong commitment to her duties and an appreciation for chain of command, BioWare probably felt going with a more military-type cut made sense for the character. Cassandra was a military woman too and she didn't have shaved sides Plus I know plenty of woman in the military who have long hair. The whole buzzcut style is a stereotype at this point.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 22, 2017 10:06:05 GMT
Fair enough. BioWare tends to try and always give their characters unique and defining looks. Since Cora has such a strong commitment to her duties and an appreciation for chain of command, BioWare probably felt going with a more military-type cut made sense for the character. Cassandra was a military woman too and she didn't have shaved sides Plus I know plenty of woman in the military who have long hair. The whole buzzcut style is a stereotype at this point. Cassandra is also a fictional, dragon-slaying priest-knight that has the ability to nullify the magic of enemy opponents... I understand what you are saying, but Mass Effect is far closer to reality than Dragon Age is. While that may be true, there are regulations on how you can have your hair. You cannot just wear it anyway you like. Cora's haircut may also just play into her personality and character, as perhaps its a way for her to indicate empowerment and professionalism. Just throwing out some ideas.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 12:30:56 GMT
I really really like Cora. The haircut is growing on me I must admit.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 22, 2017 12:40:07 GMT
I really really like Cora. The haircut is growing on me I must admit. Agreed. I like a woman who's not afraid to stand out from the crowd and express herself. Being unique and different should be encouraged, rather than being shunned.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 22, 2017 13:02:49 GMT
I suppose it's a matter of opinion. For me, personally, the hairstyle isn't nearly as important as her facial features. That being said, I actually don't mind how her hair is cut. Not to mention, she is in the military, so having long, flowing hair wouldn't exactly make sense in the game. Why would having long hair not make sense for a woman? As I've posted many times. I've seen many woman with long hair when I was in the military. They have their hair tied up, off the collar with no loose strands on the face when in uniform. Out of uniform, they can have it down. Cora's hairstyle looks fine.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 22, 2017 13:13:58 GMT
I suppose it's a matter of opinion. For me, personally, the hairstyle isn't nearly as important as her facial features. That being said, I actually don't mind how her hair is cut. Not to mention, she is in the military, so having long, flowing hair wouldn't exactly make sense in the game. Why would having long hair not make sense for a woman? As I've posted many times. I've seen many woman with long hair when I was in the military. They have their hair tied up, off the collar with no loose strands on the face when in uniform. Out of uniform, they can have it down. Cora's hairstyle looks fine. You just answered the question yourself. Having any loose strands that could impede your vision or just be an overall hindrance would be an issue. Certainly, a woman could just tie up her hair, which is what we saw from Ash in ME1 before she got the porn star makeover in ME3. Honestly, I think the largest motivation for BioWare is to just create a distinctively unique character. It's not about just having a unique personality and interesting dialogue, but also presenting something new and refreshing to the player. I'd assume most players won't take issue with Cora's hairstyle.
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Post by SKAR on Feb 22, 2017 13:24:57 GMT
Also I'd personally hate it if any Cerberus stuff is in the game from Cora. I am so tired of the whole pro-humanity bull that started to plague the original trilogy towards the end, it wasn't compelling, they just got silly and cartoonish and over the top. No Cerberus, and no pro-humanity stuff. If Cora is any of those things, she's out the airlock. She might have connection to Cerberus, but it doesn't mean she's necessarily pro humanity in the way you imagine. Being related to Cerberus or TIM includes a wide variety of options, with different type of mindsets on the organization and humanity. Daddy issues
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Post by themikefest on Feb 22, 2017 13:27:30 GMT
You just answered the question yourself. Having any loose strands that could impede your vision or just be an overall hindrance would be an issue. Certainly, a woman could just tie up her hair, which is what we saw from Ash in ME1 Yes having loose strands would impede a womens vision, but that is not a problem otherwise the military would change the regulations for women with long hair. That's why I was curious why you say it doesn't make sense having long hair.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 22, 2017 13:33:52 GMT
You just answered the question yourself. Having any loose strands that could impede your vision or just be an overall hindrance would be an issue. Certainly, a woman could just tie up her hair, which is what we saw from Ash in ME1 Yes having loose strands would impede a womens vision, but that is not a problem otherwise the military would change the regulations for women with long hair. That's why I was curious why you say it doesn't make sense having long hair. Well, the other reason is more so due to technical limitations and not being able to render longer hair properly. It's the reason BioWare avoids rendering longer hair like the plague as much as possible. Having to try and deal with physics as well as clipping can be an absolute nightmare, especially when you are taking into consideration dozens of outfits and hairstyles.
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Post by wright1978 on Feb 22, 2017 13:43:40 GMT
She might have connection to Cerberus, but it doesn't mean she's necessarily pro humanity in the way you imagine. Being related to Cerberus or TIM includes a wide variety of options, with different type of mindsets on the organization and humanity. Daddy issues Please no! I love Miranda but really don't want a repeat. I hope if she is indeed related she will be somewhat supportive of the Cerberus' agenda & her father's work even if she's not happy with some of extremes.
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Post by Ocelot on Feb 22, 2017 14:07:04 GMT
I hope they simply forgot they had those comics where TIM is called Jack Harper and that there is no connection.
If she is connected, I'm affraid the whole Cerberus thing will completely overshadow her character.
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Post by Crim on Feb 22, 2017 14:11:43 GMT
I hope they simply forgot they had those comics where TIM is called Jack Harper and that there is no connection. If she is connected, I'm affraid the whole Cerberus thing will completely overshadow her character. That's my fear too. Would rather her surname be just a coincidence.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Feb 22, 2017 14:20:38 GMT
I hope they simply forgot they had those comics where TIM is called Jack Harper and that there is no connection.If she is connected, I'm affraid the whole Cerberus thing will completely overshadow her character. I doubt this is the case. They had a similar issue when first announcing James. He was originally James Sanders, until fans pointed out he could be Kahlee Sanders' son. Bioware changed it to James Vega to avoid further confusion. Edit : Cora's last name could be a red herring just to mess with fans. Whatever the case I look forward learning about her in 27 days(23 if you have EA or Origin access).
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Post by Ocelot on Feb 22, 2017 14:28:05 GMT
I hope they simply forgot they had those comics where TIM is called Jack Harper and that there is no connection.If she is connected, I'm affraid the whole Cerberus thing will completely overshadow her character. I doubt this is the case. They had a similar issue when first announcing James. He was originally James Sanders, until fans pointed out he could be Kahlee Sanders' son. Bioware changed it to James Vega to avoid further confusion. Cora's last name could be a red herring just to mess with fans. Whatever the case I look forward learning about her in 20 days(16 if you have EA or Origin access). I really hope its just a red herring.
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Post by revanshep78 on Feb 22, 2017 14:43:50 GMT
Sorry, I'm catching up on the last few pages of the thread. Miranda was my canon for my MShepard as well. I really wished that they would have substituted her for EDI in ME3. There was so much more history there for when we invade the Illusive Man's base.
Ashley: not my favorite, not my least favorite character either.
As for Cora, I'm agreeing that she is likely a much warmer version of Miranda. Not the hugest fan of her hairstyle but I have to admit it is growing on me. I'll be interested to see what her personality is like in-game. Not too much longer now!!
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Post by sgtsteel91 on Feb 22, 2017 14:44:13 GMT
Is it just me, or does Cora have more muscular arms than in previous appearances?
Not that I'm complaining, she looks really good in that shot.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Feb 22, 2017 15:00:54 GMT
Is it just me, or does Cora have more muscular arms than in previous appearances? Not that I'm complaining, she looks really good in that shot. She looks like she has actual shoulders. In the original trilogy something was off with the female model's arms, to thin and no shoulder definition. It was very obvious on Miranda. It seemed like she had her own model/frame for her head, legs, and torso, but they used the arms from the standard female model.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Feb 22, 2017 15:17:26 GMT
That system will never come back, think Gaider said something along those lines. Was used mainly for time constraints I'd imagine, was just easier to have everyone up for grabs. DA2 was rushed as hell. Pity. It really is the most elegant solution, I think. And speaking of elegant, weak spam/shitposting on previous page was weak. Also inappropriate. So some posts got sent to the farm... Keep it clean, folks. Or at least clever.
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Post by PermTrouble on Feb 22, 2017 15:44:02 GMT
The recent wallpapers released seems to have been well received, or at least better received then the kit. On twitter it's one like short of Vetra's, which was released before, and on GAF the reception was good as well. By "recent wallpapers" I'm assuming you are referring to this? I never really understood those who were being critical of Cora's appearance. I found her to be extremely attractive the moment BioWare revealed her. I really like this picture. I wasn't a fan of her reveal because of her hair, but in this because of the way the dark spot blends in with the background it almost helps me overlook it being there at all. I don't even want her to have long hair, I just think her hair would look a lot betting missing that section. Also, I really like how to frame her in this picture. With those shoulders and jaw, it's pretty apparent that's she's trans. I just hope that she's pre-op
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 15:48:54 GMT
By "recent wallpapers" I'm assuming you are referring to this? I never really understood those who were being critical of Cora's appearance. I found her to be extremely attractive the moment BioWare revealed her. I really like this picture. I wasn't a fan of her reveal because of her hair, but in this because of the way the dark spot blends in with the background it almost helps me overlook it being there at all. I don't even want her to have long hair, I just think her hair would look a lot betting missing that section. Also, I really like how to frame her in this picture. With those shoulders and jaw, it's pretty apparent that's she's trans. I just hope that she's pre-op
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 22, 2017 15:57:28 GMT
That system will never come back, think Gaider said something along those lines. Was used mainly for time constraints I'd imagine, was just easier to have everyone up for grabs. DA2 was rushed as hell. Pity. It really is the most elegant solution, I think. And speaking of elegant, weak spam/shitposting on previous page was weak. Also inappropriate. So some posts got sent to the farm... Keep it clean, folks. Or at least clever. What happened?
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Feb 22, 2017 16:03:28 GMT
Pity. It really is the most elegant solution, I think. And speaking of elegant, weak spam/shitposting on previous page was weak. Also inappropriate. So some posts got sent to the farm... Keep it clean, folks. Or at least clever. What happened? PermTrouble happened. See example above.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 22, 2017 16:04:03 GMT
PermTrouble happened. See example above. Ah, I see. Thanks for clarifying.
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