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Post by fialka on Jan 13, 2017 15:27:43 GMT
For a genius sociologist she sure was pretty stubborn about elf nature. She also has an extreme anti-noble bias. The wants and needs she understands best are her own - the lower socioeconomic, non-elfy elf. She certainly has more than her fair share of street smarts (or perhaps street wisdom) and apparently has done a lot to help others like herself. I'm not convinced she'd qualify as a genius sociologist, but more of a survivor who helps others in similar situations. Exactly. Now I don't want to derail this thread into a Sera debate. I like Sera. I think she's a great character, and has some endearing qualities even if she can be incredibly frustrating. But her views are extremely narrow and she's willfully ignorant of the bigger picture. Her heart was in the right place generally, but she only saw things from her specific side - she had no empathy for Dalish elves or mages, little understanding of military or politics, and so on. Now, I had no real issue with her killing that noble asshole (hell I'd have done it myself maybe), but it is an example of a situation where she put her personal feelings ahead of the Inquisition's needs - the guy was offering up resources toward our cause, which could have helped us defeat something far more dangerous than he was. She could at least have let us hear him out. Same with her attitude toward what we learned of the elven gods. That was information that could help us figure out what's going on and why and maybe defeat it, and give us a better understanding of the world. But she refused to even consider it because it contradicted her established view. Could PeeBee be similar in that she'll be willing to put her stubborn pursuit of knowledge above all else? Even if that knowledge is dangerous? Possibly. It'll be interesting if that's an aspect of her character, and it's certainly one that could make people dislike her. As an academic type, I feel she must be open-minded and willing to look at things from different angles, where Sera would reject facts if they contradicted something she was more comfortable believing - a character flaw that made her really hard for me to deal with at times. The only thing about PeeBee that makes me think I might not like her is that she's supposedly 'bubbly,' and I tend to dislike 'bubbly' female characters. But I'll wait until I meet her in game to see what that means. Seems kind of silly to hate her for that before I've even met her.
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Post by Mihura on Jan 13, 2017 16:53:01 GMT
She also has an extreme anti-noble bias. The wants and needs she understands best are her own - the lower socioeconomic, non-elfy elf. She certainly has more than her fair share of street smarts (or perhaps street wisdom) and apparently has done a lot to help others like herself. I'm not convinced she'd qualify as a genius sociologist, but more of a survivor who helps others in similar situations. Exactly. Now I don't want to derail this thread into a Sera debate. I like Sera. I think she's a great character, and has some endearing qualities even if she can be incredibly frustrating. But her views are extremely narrow and she's willfully ignorant of the bigger picture. Her heart was in the right place generally, but she only saw things from her specific side - she had no empathy for Dalish elves or mages, little understanding of military or politics, and so on. Now, I had no real issue with her killing that noble asshole (hell I'd have done it myself maybe), but it is an example of a situation where she put her personal feelings ahead of the Inquisition's needs - the guy was offering up resources toward our cause, which could have helped us defeat something far more dangerous than he was. She could at least have let us hear him out. Same with her attitude toward what we learned of the elven gods. That was information that could help us figure out what's going on and why and maybe defeat it, and give us a better understanding of the world. But she refused to even consider it because it contradicted her established view. Could PeeBee be similar in that she'll be willing to put her stubborn pursuit of knowledge above all else? Even if that knowledge is dangerous? Possibly. It'll be interesting if that's an aspect of her character, and it's certainly one that could make people dislike her. As an academic type, I feel she must be open-minded and willing to look at things from different angles, where Sera would reject facts if they contradicted something she was more comfortable believing - a character flaw that made her really hard for me to deal with at times. The only thing about PeeBee that makes me think I might not like her is that she's supposedly 'bubbly,' and I tend to dislike 'bubbly' female characters. But I'll wait until I meet her in game to see what that means. Seems kind of silly to hate her for that before I've even met her. Peebee is suppose to be a lonewolf so her "stubborn pursuit" is probably a good guess. I am ok with bubbly type of characters, especially if they are kind but "very blunt and forward". From character design I can almost guess if I will dislike a character or not, there are always clues. So I will probably like Peebee and the overall cast.
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Post by Sarayne on Jan 14, 2017 0:50:40 GMT
I don't get the Sera comparison at all. If anything she seems like a mature Mission Vao. Maybe PeeBee will call Vetra "Big V" XD That is the vibe i got from her as well and i just don't understand the hate she has gotten with so little info.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Jan 14, 2017 22:19:59 GMT
Putting aside the fear of some people to have another Sera (although her background already differentiate her from that, since she's a scientist/academic), a lot of criticism was and is based on her first pic of her (which actually showcased her with something that look like proper armour ). I doubt she'd get many criticism about being ugly if the first time she was shown was like at the PS4 pro footage or her menu shot. It might also be the reason why Bioware decided to hold off showing Liam and Cora, if their faces were still not final. Honestly, just because someone might have similar traits doesn't mean they'll be "Sera 2.0" Her profile states her as a "Rogue Acedemic" and her outfit generally gives me "Indiana Jones" or "Lara Croft" or "Nathan Drake" vibes. Sure, Peebee and rules may mix like oil and water, but that isn't a bad thing in and of itself. be honest: Can we honestly say Sera was any kind of Acedemic? Of course we could. Just ignore at least half of the stuff she says
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Post by swagmaster97 on Jan 16, 2017 4:44:16 GMT
Putting aside the fear of some people to have another Sera (although her background already differentiate her from that, since she's a scientist/academic), a lot of criticism was and is based on her first pic of her (which actually showcased her with something that look like proper armour ). I doubt she'd get many criticism about being ugly if the first time she was shown was like at the PS4 pro footage or her menu shot. It might also be the reason why Bioware decided to hold off showing Liam and Cora, if their faces were still not final. Honestly, just because someone might have similar traits doesn't mean they'll be "Sera 2.0" Her profile states her as a "Rogue Acedemic" and her outfit generally gives me "Indiana Jones" or "Lara Croft" or "Nathan Drake" vibes. Sure, Peebee and rules may mix like oil and water, but that isn't a bad thing in and of itself. be honest: Can we honestly say Sera was any kind of Acedemic? I hadn't thought about Peebee that way. I can totally get behind having a sassy adventurer/academic type in my party (think Nathan Drake but hawt & blue). As for her "armor", I am mildly dissapointed but it certainly beats the heck out of Miranda's/Samara's lame catsuits/high heels. As a point of interest, in the CES trailer Peebee has 1098 health/1369 shields. Ryder has 500 health/386 shields. Ryder is wearing a layer of fabric body armor, reinforced with ceramic plates (and a helmet). Peebee is wearing a purple jacket.
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Post by JayKay on Jan 16, 2017 7:42:35 GMT
Honestly, just because someone might have similar traits doesn't mean they'll be "Sera 2.0" Her profile states her as a "Rogue Acedemic" and her outfit generally gives me "Indiana Jones" or "Lara Croft" or "Nathan Drake" vibes. Sure, Peebee and rules may mix like oil and water, but that isn't a bad thing in and of itself. be honest: Can we honestly say Sera was any kind of Acedemic? I hadn't thought about Peebee that way. I can totally get behind having a sassy adventurer/academic type in my party (think Nathan Drake but hawt & blue). As for her "armor", I am mildly dissapointed but it certainly beats the heck out of Miranda's/Samara's lame catsuits/high heels. As a point of interest, in the CES trailer Peebee has 1098 health/1369 shields. Ryder has 500 health/386 shields. Ryder is wearing a layer of fabric body, reinforced with ceramic plates (and a helmet). Peebee is wearing a purple jacket. Hey, Nathan was pretty hawt too. As for the health/shields number, keep in mind that Ryder's name there was "DEFAULTPROFILE," so it's very possible that was just numbers they threw in for the heck of it, or to make sure they don't die in the presentation. From what we saw with her powers, chances are she's going to be the Sentinel in our group, so it's likely she'll have the same kind of health bar along the likes of Kaidan, Miranda, and a Sentinel Shepard.
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Post by tylerbamafan34 on Jan 16, 2017 16:20:19 GMT
I hadn't thought about Peebee that way. I can totally get behind having a sassy adventurer/academic type in my party (think Nathan Drake but hawt & blue). As for her "armor", I am mildly dissapointed but it certainly beats the heck out of Miranda's/Samara's lame catsuits/high heels. As a point of interest, in the CES trailer Peebee has 1098 health/1369 shields. Ryder has 500 health/386 shields. Ryder is wearing a layer of fabric body, reinforced with ceramic plates (and a helmet). Peebee is wearing a purple jacket. Hey, Nathan was pretty hawt too. As for the health/shields number, keep in mind that Ryder's name there was "DEFAULTPROFILE," so it's very possible that was just numbers they threw in for the heck of it, or to make sure they don't die in the presentation. From what we saw with her powers, chances are she's going to be the Sentinel in our group, so it's likely she'll have the same kind of health bar along the likes of Kaidan, Miranda, and a Sentinel Shepard. This is another good point. Sentinels are fricking tanks in game. Right up there with a properly specced Vanguard
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Post by JayKay on Jan 16, 2017 23:26:37 GMT
That's definitely my headcanon now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 14:46:19 GMT
Haha! Oh my God! Now it all makes sense!!
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Post by Double02 on Jan 20, 2017 8:24:12 GMT
She looks cool in my books. Her character could be promising and potentially more interesting than Liara.
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Post by JayKay on Jan 21, 2017 16:54:17 GMT
I thought you guys might like to see more of their work with Peebee: (Source)(Source)
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Post by Sifr on Jan 21, 2017 23:09:13 GMT
Finally! Liara would never indulge Shepard's bedroom kink for Indiana Jones roleplay...
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Post by JayKay on Jan 22, 2017 2:01:14 GMT
Finally! Liara would never indulge Shepard's bedroom kink for Indiana Jones roleplay... Says you! In my headcanon...:'D
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Post by keiji on Jan 23, 2017 3:18:06 GMT
Peebee is love
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Post by JayKay on Jan 23, 2017 4:44:09 GMT
Funnily enough, not thinking about this thread or the recent posts, I started watching the Indiana Jones movies, and if Peebee takes enough from Indy--a fiercely intelligent academic with this almost alternate identity that she can live out fully as an adventurer, who has both cynical and idealistic sides to her, maybe a similar character arc of starting out as a glory hound and learning humility through the events of the game, she could be really cool and lovable character.
Plus it looks like she has a bit of the ability to be cool while still being the butt of the joke every once in a while, as we saw in the PS4 Pro footage.
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Post by Crim on Jan 23, 2017 7:45:38 GMT
Just curious, what are we playing as here, bro or sis Ryder for first run?
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Post by tylerbamafan34 on Jan 23, 2017 8:21:35 GMT
Just curious, what are we playing as here, bro or sis Ryder for first run? SisRyder first for me. But only cause I played as a MaleShep first in the OT
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Post by Crim on Jan 23, 2017 8:42:13 GMT
Just curious, what are we playing as here, bro or sis Ryder for first run? I'm going to play as Sis Ryder first. Me too. Just curious, what are we playing as here, bro or sis Ryder for first run? SisRyder first for me. But only cause I played as a MaleShep first in the OT That's actually a pretty neat idea.
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Post by JayKay on Jan 23, 2017 16:01:43 GMT
Just to break it up a bit, I'll probably go male first, partly because I'm always curious if I can make a good looking version of myself in the character creator, partly because so far I think I like hoods voice a little more. In waiting until I see who I can romance with who first before I fully settle.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jan 23, 2017 16:07:18 GMT
Just curious, what are we playing as here, bro or sis Ryder for first run? Male. I've never played a female character in Mass Effect and i won't.
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Post by peebee on Jan 23, 2017 19:02:13 GMT
Just curious, what are we playing as here, bro or sis Ryder for first run? SisRyder because I like to choose being a ~girl~ whenever I can in games. There's enough games where I gotta be a guy, need some variety once in a while
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Post by Bagheerah on Jan 23, 2017 19:22:56 GMT
Just curious, what are we playing as here, bro or sis Ryder for first run? BroRyder, I've been an MMO player for more than 13 years and because of that I can't seem to be able to play female character in video games anymore.
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Post by Cathe on Jan 23, 2017 20:04:21 GMT
Just curious, what are we playing as here, bro or sis Ryder for first run? Depends on romances and how the CC is. Most likely female.
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