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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 1:35:30 GMT
Or it's possible that it might be a recessive trait among the asari. After all, humans evolve slowly and differently over the centuries. We're on average taller than our ancestors, some hair and eye colors are rarer, even our jaws are getting smaller, which is why we have problems with "wisdom teeth" later in life. So maybe Peebee inherited a trait that was common in earlier asari times that had been kind of thrown by the wayside by biology the past few centuries? That also brings up something I've been meaning to put out as a potential discussion point, her "brushmark" marking over her eyes. I've been wondering if there was going to be a reasoning why she chose that kind of marking, and now I'm wondering if this maybe answers it -- maybe she got teased mercilessly as a child and she uses that marking as a way of obscuring it? I think it is reasonable that the marking is to hide the eyebrows a bit, but what makes me unsure of this is that on the VGA gameplay trailer, you can see 2 asari that seem to have Peebee's making on their face, like they are part of some group or something. So I wondered about that, it's hard too see and I'm on mobile now but I can track the seconds they appear later and edit this post. I think I saw them too or at least one of them. Looked like a guard. You got a sideview at most but it looked very similar. Saw the guard at around 1:11 on the far right next to the ramp. Edit found the other one in front of the crates at 1:17! The one at 1:17 definitely looks like she has the same mark.
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Post by hammerstorm on Feb 15, 2017 1:36:29 GMT
You're hundred percent right. While I know it's selfish, I just want confirmation that the space waifu who would make my planned BroRyder go all pitter patter will be an option. I strongly doubt she won't. To put in more defined terms: the vast majority of players in the trilogy played as MaleShep, and the vast majority romanced Liara, an asari. I wouldn't bet the devs would remove what most players seem interested in. But it would make the internet a interesting place for the next 10 year.....
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Post by peebee on Feb 15, 2017 1:42:03 GMT
I think it is reasonable that the marking is to hide the eyebrows a bit, but what makes me unsure of this is that on the VGA gameplay trailer, you can see 2 asari that seem to have Peebee's making on their face, like they are part of some group or something. So I wondered about that, it's hard too see and I'm on mobile now but I can track the seconds they appear later and edit this post. I think I saw them too or at least one of them. Looked like a guard. You got a sideview at most but it looked very similar. Saw the guard at around 1:11 on the far right next to the ramp. Edit found the other one in front of the crates at 1:17! The one at 1:17 definitely looks like she has the same mark. Just edited the post with the images! If anyone has a hard time seeing them. Thank you massbass
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 1:47:38 GMT
I think I saw them too or at least one of them. Looked like a guard. You got a sideview at most but it looked very similar. Saw the guard at around 1:11 on the far right next to the ramp. Edit found the other one in front of the crates at 1:17! The one at 1:17 definitely looks like she has the same mark. Just edited the post with the images! If anyone has a hard time seeing them. Thank you massbass I edited my post with the one in front of the crates since we got a front view. Both of ours seems to be a tad blurry, but blame their sensitivity lol It's clear enough. Edit: I'll move it here since we're on the next page now
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Post by peebee on Feb 15, 2017 1:57:52 GMT
Just edited the post with the images! If anyone has a hard time seeing them. Thank you massbass I edited my post with the one in front of the crates since we got a front view. Both of ours seems to be a tad blurry, but blame their sensitivity lol It's clear enough. Edit: I'll move it here since we're on the next page now Cool! So, what do you think? Asari rogue group? Don't get how Peebee would be in a group if she's a lone wolf though. Or are they all random NPCs but using Peebee as a place holder??
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I edited my post with the one in front of the crates since we got a front view. Both of ours seems to be a tad blurry, but blame their sensitivity lol It's clear enough. Edit: I'll move it here since we're on the next page now Cool! So, what do you think? Asari rogue group? Don't get how Peebee would be in a group if she's a lone wolf though. Or are they all random NPCs but using Peebee as a place holder?? It looked like a placeholder to me. I looked at the date of the vid and it was Dec. 1, 2016 so maybe they didn't get the different models ready in time? Facial animations were really bad in this too so a lot of the extra stuff was probably ignored because of little time. Would be really cool if we met other Asari with the same problem and learned more about what happened. I can see PeeBee having being only one of several real hair Asari where hair was in places they wouldn't normally have any, but I'm going to assume it was for technical reasons though.
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Post by sgtsteel91 on Feb 15, 2017 2:22:30 GMT
If the eyebrows thing is never mentioned in game, I'm just going to assume one of her ancestors was a Quarian.
They're the only race other than humans with hair.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 15, 2017 2:23:16 GMT
If the eyebrows thing is never mentioned in game, I'm just going to assume one of her ancestors was a Quarian. They're the only race other than humans with hair.You mean other than Asari, right? Asari don't get actual traits from the father species.
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Like I said in the Twitter thread, that is either a placeholder like you think @massbass or a gang symbol.
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Like I said in the Twirrer thread, that is either a placeholder like you think @massbass or a gang symbol. That'd be really cool if that mark symbolized a gang, maybe even peeBee might've ran with them like Shepard ran with a gang on Earth if you had that background? It would explain PeeBee being a not so typical Asari, having the mark, and being adventurous.
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Like I said in the Twirrer thread, that is either a placeholder like you think @massbass or a gang symbol. That'd be really cool if that mark symbolized a gang, maybe even peeBee might've ran with them like Shepard ran with a gang on Earth if you had that background? It would explain PeeBee being a not so typical Asari, having the mark, and being adventurous. I kind of get this Yuffie vibe from her, so I keep thinking she ran with some bad crowds possibly. And tbh, she's got a more human than Asari style and mannerisms imo. I'm not sure exactly how to explain it, but I can't compare her to any other Asari. She's just that unique.
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That'd be really cool if that mark symbolized a gang, maybe even peeBee might've ran with them like Shepard ran with a gang on Earth if you had that background? It would explain PeeBee being a not so typical Asari, having the mark, and being adventurous. I kind of get this Yuffie vibe from her, so I keep thinking she ran with some bad crowds possibly. And tbh, she's got a more human than Asari style and mannerisms imo. I'm not sure exactly how to explain it, but I can't compare her to any other Asari. She's just that unique. True on the human part. Asari are an overall orderly species and PeeBee seems to be a chaotic person. Judging by what Neil said about what she found attractive in people, I'm going to assume she shares these traits as well. I don't think we've met too many unconventional and self reliant asari. Samara is an exception in the self reliant, but she was a justicar. Her being unconventional could have originated from when she was younger and had to do some shady things to get by. I'd imagine she had enough of it at one point and just decided to do her own thing. Anyways if she had ties to some of these other Asari that joined the initiative that would make for an interesting backstory. The devs did say the loyalty missions were multiple missions as opposed to one. Maybe each will bring out different aspects of the characters? Heres the tweet: Jen G @caravaggio4lyfe what does peebee find attractive in people 👀 Neil Pollner @neilpollnerOpen-mindedness. Self-reliance. Unconventionality. And I'm going to say asymmetry. Edit: And now that I think about it she fits the maiden stage description: "The Maiden stage begins at puberty and is marked by the drive to explore and experience. Most young asari are curious and restless, and it is not uncommon for many to try their hand at dancing in bars or working as mercenaries during this time." So her having worked with a gang or something is completely possible imo.
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I kind of get this Yuffie vibe from her, so I keep thinking she ran with some bad crowds possibly. And tbh, she's got a more human than Asari style and mannerisms imo. I'm not sure exactly how to explain it, but I can't compare her to any other Asari. She's just that unique. True on the human part. Asari are an overall orderly species and PeeBee seems to be a chaotic person. Judging by what Neil said about what she found attractive in people, I'm going to assume she shares these traits as well. I don't think we've met too many unconventional and self reliant asari. Samara is an exception in the self reliant, but she was a justicar. Her being unconventional could have originated from when she was younger and had to do some shady things to get by. I'd imagine she had enough of it at one point and just decided to do her own thing. Anyways if she had ties to some of these other Asari that joined the initiative that would make for an interesting backstory. The devs did say the loyalty missions were multiple missions as opposed to one. Maybe each will bring out different aspects of the characters? Heres the tweet: Jen G @caravaggio4lyfe what does peebee find attractive in people 👀 Neil Pollner @neilpollnerOpen-mindedness. Self-reliance. Unconventionality. And I'm going to say asymmetry. Edit: And now that I think about it she fits the maiden stage description: "The Maiden stage begins at puberty and is marked by the drive to explore and experience. Most young asari are curious and restless, and it is not uncommon for many to try their hand at dancing in bars or working as mercenaries during this time." So her having worked with a gang or something is completely possible imo. I agree with all of this! And if I recall her mission will relate to her people leaving the Milky Way, so we will find out how she got here. And yes, that is the Maiden for sure! She's just beginning to grow, same as Ryder in a way, so I could see them bonding over both learning, searching, exploring and trying new things as they find their place in the new galaxy, but Ryder will make sure she avoids anything bad of course.
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I agree with all of this! And if I recall her mission will relate to her people leaving the Milky Way, so we will find out how she got here. And yes, that is the Maiden for sure! She's just beginning to grow, same as Ryder in a way, so I could see them bonding over both learning, searching, exploring and trying new things as they find their place in the new galaxy, but Ryder will make sure she avoids anything bad of course. This is interesting! How close do you think their relationship will be friendship and relationship wise? I'm sure there will be moments where she starts to show a bit of character development and Scott/Sara will play an essential role in helping her find her way in life. The VA talked about PeeBee seeing them as family, maybe we'll be the first person that she will feel genuinely comfortable with. It will be interesting to see how deep their relationships get and the differences in what we get to know about her if we are just friends or more. Some of the characters from the trilogy seemed to have definitely acted differently to a Shepard they were romantically involved with versus just friends with (Jack is the first one that comes to mind), but others seemed to act exactly the same way towards Shepard but with a few extra flirty lines (Garrus). And yeah my Ryder will biotic pull PeeBee and all the other squadmates if they try to rush ahead to danger Which reminds me, I hope they don't have friendly fire in the single-player or multiplayer, just imagine the flamer trolling
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 3:42:24 GMT
I agree with all of this! And if I recall her mission will relate to her people leaving the Milky Way, so we will find out how she got here. And yes, that is the Maiden for sure! She's just beginning to grow, same as Ryder in a way, so I could see them bonding over both learning, searching, exploring and trying new things as they find their place in the new galaxy, but Ryder will make sure she avoids anything bad of course. This is interesting! How close do you think their relationship will be friendship and relationship wise? I'm sure there will be moments where she starts to show a bit of character development and Scott/Sara will play an essential role in helping her find her way in life. The VA talked about PeeBee seeing them as family, maybe we'll be the first person that she will feel genuinely comfortable with. It will be interesting to see how deep their relationships get and the differences in what we get to know about her if we are just friends or more. Some of the characters from the trilogy seemed to have definitely acted differently to a Shepard they were romantically involved with versus just friends with (Jack is the first one that comes to mind), but others seemed to act exactly the same way towards Shepard but with a few extra flirty lines (Garrus). And yeah my Ryder will biotic pull PeeBee and all the other squadmates if they try to rush ahead to danger Which reminds me, I hope they don't have friendly fire in the single-player or multiplayer, just imagine the flamer trolling Friendship-wise I think they could have a bond that's stronger than normal friendship if they share equal desires. As lovers, I would expect it to be very intense, passionate and exciting and I could see her kicking anyone's butt who tries to hurt her lover. I know people have said she is like Sera, but in my DAI I not only had Sera as the one to help my Inquisitor loosen up, but she was there for her when Solas left her, she offered her to join her group and gave her a replacement arm of sorts. I see PeeBee as someone my Ryder can chill with, or cry on her shoulder if a LI rejects or dumps her. But that LI better not go near her lol she won't like them hurting Ryder. If they do have FF then I have a feeling I will be reviving them a lot. Everyone except Vetra seems a bit erratic with their abilities.
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Post by KeiraH on Feb 15, 2017 5:38:41 GMT
Hey KeiraH the information about Peebee being the first asari in game with real eyebrows should be in the op don't you think? Huh, what happened? *checks twitter thread* Oh, I missed all the fun I'll update op as soon as I get back from work:)
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Post by JayKay on Feb 15, 2017 5:59:42 GMT
Like I said in the Twirrer thread, that is either a placeholder like you think @massbass or a gang symbol. That'd be really cool if that mark symbolized a gang, maybe even peeBee might've ran with them like Shepard ran with a gang on Earth if you had that background? It would explain PeeBee being a not so typical Asari, having the mark, and being adventurous. The problem I see with that idea is that Vetra basically has almost the exact origin, and I doubt they would give two characters such similar backgrounds. No, Peebee comes off to me as someone who came from a more privileged life -- not as much as Liara, but enough to let her pursue her passion in science. But she didn't like the environment she was around, and the other kids didn't like her back, so she created the Peebee persona and became it and went off on her own the first chance she got.
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That'd be really cool if that mark symbolized a gang, maybe even peeBee might've ran with them like Shepard ran with a gang on Earth if you had that background? It would explain PeeBee being a not so typical Asari, having the mark, and being adventurous. The problem I see with that idea is that Vetra basically has almost the exact origin, and I doubt they would give two characters such similar backgrounds. No, Peebee comes off to me as someone who came from a more privileged life -- not as much as Liara, but enough to let her pursue her passion in science. But she didn't like the environment she was around, and the other kids didn't like her back, so she created the Peebee persona and became it and went off on her own the first chance she got. We still have yet to see her and Vetra's relationship (which doesn't have to be romantic imo).
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Post by JayKay on Feb 15, 2017 6:53:07 GMT
The problem I see with that idea is that Vetra basically has almost the exact origin, and I doubt they would give two characters such similar backgrounds. No, Peebee comes off to me as someone who came from a more privileged life -- not as much as Liara, but enough to let her pursue her passion in science. But she didn't like the environment she was around, and the other kids didn't like her back, so she created the Peebee persona and became it and went off on her own the first chance she got. We still have yet to see her and Vetra's relationship (which doesn't have to be romantic imo). I'm not talking about relationships, I'm talking about backgrounds. It would be sort of like if in ME2 both Miranda AND Jack were test tube babies with evil manipulative fathers.
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We still have yet to see her and Vetra's relationship (which doesn't have to be romantic imo). I'm not talking about relationships, I'm talking about backgrounds. It would be sort of like if in ME2 both Miranda AND Jack were test tube babies with evil manipulative fathers. Could relate to their backgrounds (hence their relationship). We'll find out when we play most likely.
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Post by Psychedelic on Feb 15, 2017 15:10:52 GMT
Regarding Peebee's background, her class (or profile, idk) in the trailer is rogue academic. I get the rogue part, but academic? She doensn't seem to be the type who could sit still long enough to make it through University or whatever Asari have. Sounds more like she is a dropout, her writer said she doesn't have a PhD or anything. Not sure I would call her academic in that case, but maybe she compensates quality with quantity. I could totally imagine her starting one course of studies, getting bored, start another and so on. And given that Peebee is sweet little 100 years old or so, she could have done that a lot of times.
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Post by peebee on Feb 15, 2017 17:43:54 GMT
Regarding Peebee's background, her class (or profile, idk) in the trailer is rogue academic. I get the rogue part, but academic? She doensn't seem to be the type who could sit still long enough to make it through University or whatever Asari have. Sounds more like she is a dropout, her writer said she doesn't have a PhD or anything. Not sure I would call her academic in that case, but maybe she compensates quality with quantity. I could totally imagine her starting one course of studies, getting bored, start another and so on. And given that Peebee is sweet little 100 years old or so, she could have done that a lot of times. Yeah I mean, I think it says academic just to show what she's interested in. She likes to discover new things and study them, right? But she goes a more freestyle way about it, so that's where I think the "Rogue" comes from, she just likes to do it her own way. Maybe she actually tried entering some kind of university but their uptight ways just didn't fit her, or maybe it was boring? By her phrase I think that's most likely, whatever they were doing on the Milky Way became old news fast for her.
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Regarding Peebee's background, her class (or profile, idk) in the trailer is rogue academic. I get the rogue part, but academic? She doensn't seem to be the type who could sit still long enough to make it through University or whatever Asari have. Sounds more like she is a dropout, her writer said she doesn't have a PhD or anything. Not sure I would call her academic in that case, but maybe she compensates quality with quantity. I could totally imagine her starting one course of studies, getting bored, start another and so on. And given that Peebee is sweet little 100 years old or so, she could have done that a lot of times. Yeah I mean, I think it says academic just to show what she's interested in. She likes to discover new things and study them, right? But she goes a more freestyle way about it, so that's where I think the "Rogue" comes from, she just likes to do it her own way. Maybe she actually tried entering some kind of university but their uptight ways just didn't fit her, or maybe it was boring? By her phrase I think that's most likely, whatever they were doing on the Milky Way became old news fast for her. Yea, since she came from Hyetiana, I can figure that she saw how the xenobiologists were studying and decided that it was too boring doing it their way. It was a "bastion of research for the asari bastion of research for the asari, boasting multiple observation outposts, glacial drilling stations, and educational institutions." My guess is that she figured she could accomplish more by adventuring around and finding new things.
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That'd be really cool if that mark symbolized a gang, maybe even peeBee might've ran with them like Shepard ran with a gang on Earth if you had that background? It would explain PeeBee being a not so typical Asari, having the mark, and being adventurous. The problem I see with that idea is that Vetra basically has almost the exact origin, and I doubt they would give two characters such similar backgrounds. No, Peebee comes off to me as someone who came from a more privileged life -- not as much as Liara, but enough to let her pursue her passion in science. But she didn't like the environment she was around, and the other kids didn't like her back, so she created the Peebee persona and became it and went off on her own the first chance she got. It's possible that, considering her origins, she had a more privileged life and threw it away because it was too boring. Most of the speculation about her being a part of a gang/group came from the other asari that seemed to have had the same mark like this one, but it's more than likely a placeholder. It can really go either way though. She could have left Hyetiana at a very young age and traveled around and fell in with a group for a while then left them for the Initiative, but as you said it would probably be too similar to Vetra's underground-type background that it's likely she was just by herself traveling and trying to find new things in the Milky Way or left Hyetiana as soon as she found out about the initiative.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 23:07:57 GMT
Neil answered my tweet! Dropping it here:
SomebodyOfNobody @of_somebody @neilpollner So I read Peebee's profile and she sounds like Vette from SWTOR. Would you say this is a good comparison?
Neil Pollner@NeilPollner @of_somebody There are some similarities, but Peebee is a very diff char. You'll see when you get to play. Will love to hear your thoughts.
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