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Post by Crim on Feb 24, 2017 3:42:56 GMT
That's a question that only her writer could answer. Real tempted to ask him this. Good luck. the guy is has been pretty quiet lately. Think he's tired of questions and knows it'll only escalate for every answer Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand sent. *watch this space, lel*
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 3:45:12 GMT
Good luck. the guy is has been pretty quiet lately. Think he's tired of questions and knows it'll only escalate for every answer Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand sent. *watch this space, lel* Just saw it. Your tweet is a shining beacon of hope for humanity among the countless bitter tweets about certain info today. Ty
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Post by Mihura on Feb 24, 2017 3:46:10 GMT
One version, they feel disappointed. The other, disappointed and MISLEAD. I recommend the former. People get over disappointment, they get angry at being lied to or led astray. That's exactly why they aren't going to confirm any romance related stuff officially, there is no misleading if they do not comment on it at all (yes, the Scott/Cora scene, but nothing else). If someone thinks they hinted at something it's up to them. Actually not really, that is why the ending of ME3 was just a fail of epic proportions. I think it is going to be a lot worse when the game comes out or at the early access... people will be disappointed a lot more close to release date and that is going to influence their mood for playing the game. A honest answer last year would just give time for players to accept it and move on, focusing on other things. I have to say, that I am starting to think that maybe bioware is better off without romances. After so many years and they still do not understand part of their fandom. I used to enjoy talking about this kinda of things, companions, romances and all that shit but now it just feels off and negative. Thank the maker I will be spending my free time on Numenera, the Jaal and Peebee romance related news are just awful. If they had spoiled the ending of ME3 early on that would hardly have made it any better. That very example shows how well players move on, even years later the ME3 ending bubbles up every now and again. I don't get why the romance is the focus of attention. It's the icing on the cake, as someone else has put it, but hardly important enough to cause this flood of reactions. That being said, I won't derail the thread any further. I have to disagree, the ME3 ending is the perfect example of something they promise to deliver and failed. So yes I agree that it would had been better to say nothing at all(which is something they are not doing with romances, there are hints everywhere in the oficial press and dev twittes), Deus Ex for example did the same type of ending and people were mostly fine with it. Peebee is clearly going for Male(the scene where she is on top of Ryder) and Female Ryder(with the ex) but their refusal to knowledge that, makes absolute no sense at this time. And yes, romances are not that important personally to me. The main story, good character arcs/diverse cast and dialogue choices are on the top of my list but I do like to speculate about it and having fun till the game is out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 3:51:16 GMT
That's exactly why they aren't going to confirm any romance related stuff officially, there is no misleading if they do not comment on it at all (yes, the Scott/Cora scene, but nothing else). If someone thinks they hinted at something it's up to them. If they had spoiled the ending of ME3 early on that would hardly have made it any better. That very example shows how well players move on, even years later the ME3 ending bubbles up every now and again. I don't get why the romance is the focus of attention. It's the icing on the cake, as someone else has put it, but hardly important enough to cause this flood of reactions. That being said, I won't derail the thread any further. I have to disagree, the ME3 ending is the perfect example of something they promise to deliver and failed. So yes I agree that it would had been better to say nothing at all(which is something they are not doing with romances, there are hints everywhere in the oficial press and dev twittes), Deus Ex for example did the same type of ending and people were mostly fine with it. Peebee is clearly going for Male(the scene where she is on top of Ryder) and Female Ryder(with the ex) but their refusal to knowledge that, makes absolute no sense at this time. And yes, romances are not that important personally to me. The main story, good character arcs/diverse cast and dialogue choices are on the top of my list but I do like to speculate about it and having fun till the game is out. It doesn't. And when something is obvious they should just confirm it. And one other thing that makes me sad is why people need a dev tweet to the point they start personally attacking the devs on twitter for validation of what is obvious. Twitter has been...not so great today. At first people were excited then people got irrational and things went pretty bad. Back to PeeBee though, what other locations in the tempest do you think she will be?
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Post by Mihura on Feb 24, 2017 3:55:53 GMT
I have to disagree, the ME3 ending is the perfect example of something they promise to deliver and failed. So yes I agree that it would had been better to say nothing at all(which is something they are not doing with romances, there are hints everywhere in the oficial press and dev twittes), Deus Ex for example did the same type of ending and people were mostly fine with it. Peebee is clearly going for Male(the scene where she is on top of Ryder) and Female Ryder(with the ex) but their refusal to knowledge that, makes absolute no sense at this time. And yes, romances are not that important personally to me. The main story, good character arcs/diverse cast and dialogue choices are on the top of my list but I do like to speculate about it and having fun till the game is out. It doesn't. And when something is obvious they should just confirm it. And one other thing that makes me sad is why people need a dev tweet to the point they start personally attacking the devs on twitter for validation of what is obvious. Twitter has been...not so great today. At first people were excited then people got irrational and things went pretty bad.Back to PeeBee though, what other locations in the tempest do you think she will be? I absolute dislike when people do that to the devs or artists in general and it makes me sad too. It totally fine to be frustrated about this and vent on the forum, the rest not so much. It is still only a game. I read that Peebee will be on an escape pod too? or maybe I am wrong?
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Post by Crim on Feb 24, 2017 4:04:48 GMT
I understand the m/m players frustration tho and if there is even a shred of truth to that leak I'll be incredibly disappointed with Bioware. That's some real regressive BS right there. Still, I don't condone anyone harassing Bioware employees via Twitter no matter how annoyed/disappointed one might be. I've been disappointed with some of my options in the past, never felt the need to flame on Twitter tho, I just got all my cries and bile done here lol. I'm expecting to continue this tradition with Cora. *still hurts* I'm still backed up on articles and vids I must watch, too much info released today. #FirstWorldProblems
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 4:05:05 GMT
It doesn't. And when something is obvious they should just confirm it. And one other thing that makes me sad is why people need a dev tweet to the point they start personally attacking the devs on twitter for validation of what is obvious. Twitter has been...not so great today. At first people were excited then people got irrational and things went pretty bad.Back to PeeBee though, what other locations in the tempest do you think she will be? I absolute dislike when people do that to the devs or artists in general and it makes me sad too. It totally fine to be frustrated about this and vent on the forum, the rest not so much. It is still only a game. I read that Peebee will be on an escape pod too? or maybe I am wrong? Yea escape pod is one, but do we have other locations? Hoping she'll be in various places maybe messing with SAM in our bedroom. seeing what it's about.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 24, 2017 4:06:09 GMT
I absolute dislike when people do that to the devs or artists in general and it makes me sad too. It totally fine to be frustrated about this and vent on the forum, the rest not so much. It is still only a game. I read that Peebee will be on an escape pod too? or maybe I am wrong? Yea escape pod is one, but do we have other locations? Hoping she'll be in various places maybe messing with SAM in our bedroom. seeing what he's about. I suspect every character will at one point or another be in every room of the Tempest. It is a small ship after all and each one will interact with the others.
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Post by tylerbamafan34 on Feb 24, 2017 4:07:44 GMT
It doesn't. And when something is obvious they should just confirm it. And one other thing that makes me sad is why people need a dev tweet to the point they start personally attacking the devs on twitter for validation of what is obvious. Twitter has been...not so great today. At first people were excited then people got irrational and things went pretty bad.Back to PeeBee though, what other locations in the tempest do you think she will be? I absolute dislike when people do that to the devs or artists in general and it makes me sad too. It totally fine to be frustrated about this and vent on the forum, the rest not so much. It is still only a game. I read that Peebee will be on an escape pod too? or maybe I am wrong? What you read is that Peebee will be living in an escape pod on the Tempest. heres hoping we can convince her to take better quarters as the game goes on
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 4:08:11 GMT
Yea escape pod is one, but do we have other locations? Hoping she'll be in various places maybe messing with SAM in our bedroom. seeing what he's about. I suspect every character will at one point or another be in every room of the Tempest. It is a small ship after all and each one will interact with the others. Think lexi and peebee will have conversations on the tempest like the squad conversed in ME3?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 24, 2017 4:09:14 GMT
I suspect every character will at one point or another be in every room of the Tempest. It is a small ship after all and each one will interact with the others. Think lexi and peebee will have conversations on the tempest like the squad conversed in ME3? Absolutely, especially since those two have some sort of rivalry. There is no doubt in my mind that the squad and crew will interact with each other like that. I recall Bioware confirming that in November.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 4:10:44 GMT
Think lexi and peebee will have conversations on the tempest like the squad conversed in ME3? Absolutely. There is no doubt in my mind that the squad and crew will interact with each other like that. I recall Bioware confirming that in November. Hopefully we'll also be able to intervene in those conversations if we so chose to and give our input like ME3 or maybe get in actual conversation mode and get more than support this or that.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 24, 2017 4:12:30 GMT
Absolutely. There is no doubt in my mind that the squad and crew will interact with each other like that. I recall Bioware confirming that in November. Hopefully we'll also be able to intervene in those conversations if we so chose to and give our input like ME3 or maybe get in actual conversation mode and get more than support this or that. I'm pretty sure they will. Dragon Age: Inquisition did that quite a few, where the interactions between two characters was an actual cutscene you could participate in. We saw an example of them doing this in one of the Lexi videos, where we see her and Drack talking in a cinematic format.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 4:16:53 GMT
Another thing I'm wondering. Do you think our Ryder will be mind melding with peebee much romance or otherwise? I see her as just not doing it much because she's not all too into "embracing eternity" though I'm not sure what kind of ecstasy or whatever they get from that so I don't know she might do it at least with a romanced Ryder for that.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 24, 2017 4:19:21 GMT
Another thing I'm wondering. Do you think our Ryder will be mind melding with peebee much romance or otherwise? I see her as just not doing it much because she's not all too into "embracing eternity" though I'm not sure what kind of ecstasy or whatever they get from that so I don't know she might do it at least with a romanced Ryder for that. I could see the early sex scenes with Ryder not involving mind meld since she doesn't want to form a deep connection as well as make herself vulnerable, but as the romance progresses and she sees you and the others as a family in a later scene she'll finally mind meld with you, as a way of showing she trusts you fully and wants to be one with you.
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Post by JayKay on Feb 24, 2017 4:20:39 GMT
I was just so excited to see Peebee in a video It's been a while since we've seen her interacting. On the official ME channel Lexi video they show Sara, and on this EA UK video they show Scott, so maybe they were trying variation? Still, would have liked to see this scene with both of them too. We got so much info today, but I need MOAR videos! More? You're still hungry for more stuff today? I'm about to bust! So much has came out today, more than what we got from announcement of the game till yesterday. It's amazing what lifting an embargo can do. I'm even more excited for this game, but I also got a headache. TBH the only way I'll feel fully sated is once I have the game in my grubby little hands. WTF, the Jaal thread got locked. I haven't checked in there since this afternoon, the hell happened? Flame war started between a few users. Aww man, I've been meaning to post in there too. Haha yeah the youth of this crew makes me hopeful for more comedic interactions. I loved some of the goof in the triology. The bulletin board on the Tempest for e.g. Passive aggressive post it notes pretty much all directed towards PeeBee I can imagine XD One thing I am really wondering is if PeeBee will get more serious over time. Like if we romance her, will she be a bit more open/emotional/serious in the conversations we have with her. I doubt she'll stop being trouble for the crew entirely, but I think as she starts getting along with people on the tempest, there'll be less trouble caused by her to those people. I bet so. Maybe because of the comparisons, but I'm thinking/hoping that when we get a final interaction from Peebee as an LI before the final boss, we get something sort of like Isabela's in DA2. Hey, quick question, Peebeemancers, do you think Peebee would be a good dancer or even worse than Ryder and Shepard combined? See, this gives me an idea. With asari maidens, it's said that they usually go through their wild years with one of two ways: by joining mercenaries or being dancers. Liara did neither, and Samara was a merc. What if Peebee was a dancer in one of those places like Afterlife and Purgatory, using it to help pay for her degree, or just because she enjoyed it? From the way they say she's very flirty and uses her wiles to her advantage to get what she wants, that seems not that improbable of her. I can already imagine the scene, where either at Vortex in the Nexus or, more likely, at in one of the more underground places in the planet that Kelley has kind of taken hold of, we see her chilling out at the club there, watching the dancers and she talks to us about how this takes her back. Of course there would be a flirt of Ryder saying, "I think I'd want to see you in action" and Peebee would answer back, "Oh I bet you would! Maybe if you're a good little boy/girl, I will. " Or the butthurt would be even worse if those naggers already knew for sure they can't have whatever NPC they were pining for. The benefit of doubt should be keeping at least some of them at bay. One version, they feel disappointed. The other, disappointed and MISLEAD. I recommend the former. People get over disappointment, they get angry at being lied to or led astray. I can see both sides to this: On one hand, I remember being slightly outside the fandom (or at least late to the party) just as the romance list for Inquisition dropped. You had people who were PISSED that Cassandra was only romanceable by male Inquisitors and that Vivienne wasn't romanceable at all, to the point where it made the fandom meltdown a little. On the other, after a while, the matter sort of...dropped; people are still salty about Cassandra not being into girls, of course, but after a while, people focused more on the romances they had. Of course, correlation doesn't mean causation -- it's possible the same thing will happen this time without a list of romances. From what I understand, Inquisition was a rarity in dropping info on all the romances down. But still, at least we'll know for certain in about five weeks. It can be hard to contain ourselves sometimes, but remember five weeks is but a drop of water in comparison to the five years.
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Post by JayKay on Feb 24, 2017 4:49:46 GMT
I absolute dislike when people do that to the devs or artists in general and it makes me sad too. It totally fine to be frustrated about this and vent on the forum, the rest not so much. It is still only a game. I read that Peebee will be on an escape pod too? or maybe I am wrong? What you read is that Peebee will be living in an escape pod on the Tempest. heres hoping we can convince her to take better quarters as the game goes on Agreed. And by that, I think the Ryders romancing her really mean this:
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Post by Psychedelic on Feb 24, 2017 5:01:22 GMT
Flame war started between a few users. Aww man, I've been meaning to post in there too. It was only for a short time. Everything back to normal. Hey, quick question, Peebeemancers, do you think Peebee would be a good dancer or even worse than Ryder and Shepard combined? I would say she is still in the middle of her "wild years". Not saying I can't imagine her dancing, but she seems to like action better. Not much new to find when you spent your days wiggling your ass in a seedy bar. Maybe if she started some barfights to lighten the mood, but she would hardly have kept her job for long in that case.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 5:27:16 GMT
Asked Ian if peebee's age range that was confirmed by Neil was chosen to fit the desciption of a maiden stage asari or for another reason. Not sure if he'll answer.
What do you think? Was she made young to fit this description or do you think she'll maintain her adventurous attitude even when she hits the next couple stages?
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Post by JayKay on Feb 24, 2017 5:38:59 GMT
I can see that too -- I'm not saying that she would be the perfect dancer for one of those venues, just that she might know some moves. I dunno, I just thought that might be a detail about her character that might make her stand out -- and admittedly, maybe it wouldn't stand out for the right reasons. Anyway, another detail I just heard in Eurogamer's YouTube video. Apparently continuing Bioware's love of adding references to it in their games, Peebee's alcove on the Tempest will have some Plants Vs. Zombies plushies as little easter eggs.
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Post by vanillah on Feb 24, 2017 5:42:43 GMT
Blue Shrek is love , blue Shrek is life.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 5:44:17 GMT
SomebodyOfNobody@of_somebody Not sure if this will be addressed in game, but Neil said PB is around Liara's age. Did u choose that age based on her character?
SomebodyOfNobody@of_somebody Clarification: Peebee is descibed to be adventurous. Was she made young to fit that youg asari (maiden) description or not?
Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon I defer to @neilpollner
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Post by Psychedelic on Feb 24, 2017 5:50:48 GMT
I am rather curious to see what her escape pod looks like. I bet she customized it to the degree that it can no longer be used for its original purpose. Too much clutter and deco so that nobody fits in there anymore- except herself, of course (and maybe Ryder ). How big is such an escape pod supposed to be, anyway? The things you could see at the beginning of ME2 weren't all that big.
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Post by GannayevOfDreams on Feb 24, 2017 5:51:33 GMT
Are people still concerned about Peebee being a romance option for F!Ryder? Everything we've heard about her would suggest she is. The most convincing reasons being: 1. She is an Asari... if she were a romance options at all, and we know she is, she'd most likely be for both. 2. The confirmed fact she had a girlfriend in the past. 3. The leaked information from a while ago where someone got to see an actual romance scene between her and F!Ryder.
It's a very very very... very safe bet she'll be available for F!Ryders. I'm more concerned about the depth of the romance. She might be one of the ones that are mostly casual and very physically based. Which I find about as uninteresting as the entirely sexless ones.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 24, 2017 5:53:26 GMT
I am rather curious to see what her escape pod looks like. I bet she customized it to the degree that it can no longer be used for its original purpose. Too much clutter and deco so that nobody fits in there anymore- except herself, of course (and maybe Ryder ). How big is such an escape pod supposed to be, anyway? The things you could see at the beginning of ME2 weren't all that big. Well, the ones we have seen can fit about a half dozen people. The Tempest probably has two escape pods then knowing the size of the crew, and one article mentioned it's not just the escape pod but the area you can access to escape pod she made into her quarters. So overall I suspect her place will have as much space as Jack in ME2.
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