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Book 2 was slightly more interesting than book 1, and book 3 slightly more interesting than 2. Thought it was a solid, competent fantasy trilogy- nothing superlative, but not really actively bad in any way either, I didn't feel like I wanted my money or time back (and even enjoyed re-reading books 1 and 2 to refresh my memory once 3 had come out) so was worth the price admission imo 30 pages into the book I have to agree with you so far, it seems pretty solid and a bit more interesting than book 1. Just wondering, are there any ''must reads'' in the fantasy genre I missed so far? My absolute favorite is the ''Black Company series'', I continued with ''Kings of the Wyld'' and '' Bloody Rose''. In the Sci-Fi genre I read ''The Vagrant'' trilogy which was pretty damn good, and John Scalzi's Old Mans war, which I did not like all that much. I don't want to read The Expanse since I'm watching the series already, same goes for A Song of Fire and Ice and of course LOTR. Any suggestions? Also, I wonder if there are any good sci-fi books with horror elements, same with fantasy-horror. So far I have not found any good books covering this kind of niche genre. Have you read The Forever War by Joe Haldeman? It is often voted to as the best Sci-Fi book written? It has time-travel, well time elapsed travelling back and forth to Earth and fighting but it is more about changes in society over time. The first book is quite short but the second and third were not as good but OK if you want to read how it ends up. The Expanse Series by James S.A. Corey but no time travel One of my favourites but is pretty non-military but is about development of mental powers and first contact and has a second trilogy that deals with travel back in time: The Galactic Milieu Trilogy: www.goodreads.com/series/40712-galactic-milieu-trilogy + The Saga of the Pliocene exiles: www.goodreads.com/book/show/378639.The_Many_Coloured_LandHonor Harrington books
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dazk So, I finally, FINALLY finished Grass. The fact that I needed so long is not due to the quality of the book or anything but simply because I had very little time to read lately (partially due to work, partially due to the fact that in August, I played too much Horzon Zero dawn ). Well, it's a decent book, starts off a little slow and confusing but picks up in the second half. Humanity certainly has an interesting future where multiple planets are colonized but also religion has apparently picked up again and also there is a really bad plague about to wipe us out. Amidst all of this, on the rather provincial planet of Grass, something weird is going on. Apparently there is no plague there and there are these weird beings, called the Hippae, which literally take the residents for a ride. It is an interesting premise for sure and while there is a lo of exposition in the early part of the book, it actually evolves into quite the action towards the end. However, I had one HUGE problem with the conclusion of it all. The virus that is responsible for the plague is a fairly complicated affair and at the end, it's exact working are explained in excruciating detail. This would be great if the explanation made any sense. But unfortunately, it really really doesn't. So the way it is described, the virus has enzymes, that can convert the chirality of the amino acid alanine both ways, from L to D and from D to L (levo-form to dextro-form and vise versa, remember the turians and quarians from mass effect? Yea, same thing). Humans need the levo-form to live, they cannot process D-alanine. On the other hand, D-alanine is a co-factor that allows the virus to replicate. On grass, the virus has been around forever, so it generated lot's of D-alanine over the millennia and it is plentiful in the environment while everywhere else in the galaxy, it is rare. Since D-alanine is the co-factor, the virus spreads extremely quickly on Grass while very slowly everywhere else. So far so good. But here is the thing, apparently on Grass the virus is not a problem and people there don't exhibit symptoms because the virus converts L to D AND D to L and since there is so much D-alanine around on Grass, the virus itself supplies the L form we need to live. Now, the argument for why there is plague everywhere else is that there is basically no D around, so the virus converts L to D but cannot generate L. This makes no sense because the virus itself should provide the D-form and then convert it back, there should at some point just be an equilibrium everywhere else as well. All you'd need is provide a little food supplement maybe until that equilibrium is reached. They even go on to say that the cure" they come up with is to provide sick people with large amounts of D-alanine and - get this - they even use the virus itself to manufacture it out of L-alanine!!! I really enjoyed the book right up to this point but I read those 3 pages three times I think because I really thought that the logical error must be with me but if it is, I am too stupid to see it and if it isn't, this final explanation for the entire problem of the book is just insane and makes random technobabble look good. Please, feel free to read that explanation, it's fairly condensed and self-contained on 3 pages (435-437) and I found it on google books. If anyone can explain it to me, I'd be happy but the way I see it at the moment, it makes no sense. So yea, I have to admit, after over 400 pages of a pretty good read, that one kinda messed it up for me. But otherwise, the book has it's moments and Marjorie is a cool character, that I'll give it.
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dazk So, I finally, FINALLY finished Grass. The fact that I needed so long is not due to the quality of the book or anything but simply because I had very little time to read lately (partially due to work, partially due to the fact that in August, I played too much Horzon Zero dawn ). Well, it's a decent book, starts off a little slow and confusing but picks up in the second half. Humanity certainly has an interesting future where multiple planets are colonized but also religion has apparently picked up again and also there is a really bad plague about to wipe us out. Amidst all of this, on the rather provincial planet of Grass, something weird is going on. Apparently there is no plague there and there are these weird beings, called the Hippae, which literally take the residents for a ride. It is an interesting premise for sure and while there is a lo of exposition in the early part of the book, it actually evolves into quite the action towards the end. However, I had one HUGE problem with the conclusion of it all. The virus that is responsible for the plague is a fairly complicated affair and at the end, it's exact working are explained in excruciating detail. This would be great if the explanation made any sense. But unfortunately, it really really doesn't. So the way it is described, the virus has enzymes, that can convert the chirality of the amino acid alanine both ways, from L to D and from D to L (levo-form to dextro-form and vise versa, remember the turians and quarians from mass effect? Yea, same thing). Humans need the levo-form to live, they cannot process D-alanine. On the other hand, D-alanine is a co-factor that allows the virus to replicate. On grass, the virus has been around forever, so it generated lot's of D-alanine over the millennia and it is plentiful in the environment while everywhere else in the galaxy, it is rare. Since D-alanine is the co-factor, the virus spreads extremely quickly on Grass while very slowly everywhere else. So far so good. But here is the thing, apparently on Grass the virus is not a problem and people there don't exhibit symptoms because the virus converts L to D AND D to L and since there is so much D-alanine around on Grass, the virus itself supplies the L form we need to live. Now, the argument for why there is plague everywhere else is that there is basically no D around, so the virus converts L to D but cannot generate L. This makes no sense because the virus itself should provide the D-form and then convert it back, there should at some point just be an equilibrium everywhere else as well. All you'd need is provide a little food supplement maybe until that equilibrium is reached. They even go on to say that the cure" they come up with is to provide sick people with large amounts of D-alanine and - get this - they even use the virus itself to manufacture it out of L-alanine!!! I really enjoyed the book right up to this point but I read those 3 pages three times I think because I really thought that the logical error must be with me but if it is, I am too stupid to see it and if it isn't, this final explanation for the entire problem of the book is just insane and makes random technobabble look good. Please, feel free to read that explanation, it's fairly condensed and self-contained on 3 pages (435-437) and I found it on google books. If anyone can explain it to me, I'd be happy but the way I see it at the moment, it makes no sense. So yea, I have to admit, after over 400 pages of a pretty good read, that one kinda messed it up for me. But otherwise, the book has it's moments and Marjorie is a cool character, that I'll give it. Hey AnDromedary I glad you liked the book, sorry that the part you spoilered was a let down. My memory of that was that i just went "what" and didn't attempt to attribute it any plausibility and moved on, I am not generally one for worrying about authors trying to provide "actual" scientific reason for things especially in fantasy books. I am flattered you took my advice re reading the book I am always hesitant to suggest books to people as each reader takes something different from them. So thanks for taking the suggestion and for the feedback so if i see something that meets your tastes better I'll have the courage to suggest another one.
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Post by AnDromedary on Sept 24, 2020 2:09:11 GMT
Hey AnDromedary I glad you liked the book, sorry that the part you spoilered was a let down. My memory of that was that i just went "what" and didn't attempt to attribute it any plausibility and moved on, I am not generally one for worrying about authors trying to provide "actual" scientific reason for things especially in fantasy books. I am flattered you took my advice re reading the book I am always hesitant to suggest books to people as each reader takes something different from them. So thanks for taking the suggestion and for the feedback so if i see something that meets your tastes better I'll have the courage to suggest another one. Yea, thanks for the recommendation. It was definitely a good one. And I'll admit, I get hung up on these science things way too much probably.
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Post by dazk on Sept 24, 2020 2:26:09 GMT
Hey AnDromedary I glad you liked the book, sorry that the part you spoilered was a let down. My memory of that was that i just went "what" and didn't attempt to attribute it any plausibility and moved on, I am not generally one for worrying about authors trying to provide "actual" scientific reason for things especially in fantasy books. I am flattered you took my advice re reading the book I am always hesitant to suggest books to people as each reader takes something different from them. So thanks for taking the suggestion and for the feedback so if i see something that meets your tastes better I'll have the courage to suggest another one. Yea, thanks for the recommendation. It was definitely a good one. And I'll admit, I get hung up on these science things way too much probably. Hey I was just thinking about HZD and remembered (well a small part of it) that I read a book about a natural or man made disaster where people locked themselves in a vault with DNA and Seeds and knowledge but used to reveal themselves if necessary to survivors of the nuclear winter or whatever it was as gods. There was I thinlk at any one time only three of the small number of humans awake and the they did Cryo rotations to be able to last long enough to let humanity recover to a certain point. I thought it may have been a Sherri S Tepper book as well but went through my books of which I have 5 Tepper books and none seemed to ring a bell. Does that sound familiar to you? I wondered if HZD had been inspired by it in some ways.
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I listened to Animal Farm as a three hour audiobook, does that still count...? Always meant to read it. Never got round to it. I've had weird light sensitivity issues the past week and the only thing I could do really to occupy my mind was listen to audiobooks. Really enjoyed animal farm. The narrator was enjoying himself doing the sheep voices. FOUR LEGS GOOD. TWO LEGS BAAAAAD. Just finished listening to Lord Of The Flies, one of my favorite novels. Read it twice before. Once in school, then again in college for a paper on the similarities and differences depicting youth and innocence in Oe Kenzaburo's "Nip the buds, shoot the kids". I also recommend the latter btw. Can't stand the man's later works but this book he wrote in his twenties about a bunch of delinquents during WWII abandoned during the outbreak of a plague by the nasty villagers was a touching tale of cruelty, the desperate desire for love and family and the bond between two brothers.
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Post by AnDromedary on Oct 2, 2020 17:48:17 GMT
Yea, thanks for the recommendation. It was definitely a good one. And I'll admit, I get hung up on these science things way too much probably. Hey I was just thinking about HZD and remembered (well a small part of it) that I read a book about a natural or man made disaster where people locked themselves in a vault with DNA and Seeds and knowledge but used to reveal themselves if necessary to survivors of the nuclear winter or whatever it was as gods. There was I thinlk at any one time only three of the small number of humans awake and the they did Cryo rotations to be able to last long enough to let humanity recover to a certain point. I thought it may have been a Sherri S Tepper book as well but went through my books of which I have 5 Tepper books and none seemed to ring a bell. Does that sound familiar to you? I wondered if HZD had been inspired by it in some ways. No, that doesn't ring a bell, sorry.
The most similar setup to HZD in other media was in Cloud Atlas (the far future sections of the story) but that is still very different.
In other book news, I started with The Witcher book series. Given that I am a huge fan of the games, it always seemed wrong not to have read the books and nt that I just saw the Netflix series, I was in the mood. Started with the "The last Wish" short story compilation, which is pretty much what they based all of Geralt's stories in the tv show on. Pretty decent so far. Didn't expect Geralt to be such a chatterbox in the book though.
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In other book news, I started with The Witcher book series. Given that I am a huge fan of the games, it always seemed wrong not to have read the books and nt that I just saw the Netflix series, I was in the mood. Started with the "The last Wish" short story compilation, which is pretty much what they based all of Geralt's stories in the tv show on. Pretty decent so far. Didn't expect Geralt to be such a chatterbox in the book though. YES! I love love love the novels. It's all about the characters. Very Bioware-style in a sense with lots of banter and loyal companions and so much heart it makes you bawl your eyes out at the end. Yes, start with The Last Wish. Then read the actual saga. Read Sword Of Destiny AFTERWARDS. Because for the full emotional impact you need to have gone through hell with these characters. Only then can you really appreciate the flashback stories imo. Especially the one where Geralt and Ciri first meet. Probably one of the most emotional reading experiences of my life, this short story. And yes, book Geralt is quite chatty and makes friends everywhere he goes, which is kind of hilarious for an outcast, hahaha. That's why I thought the Netflix series did him a bit of a disservice. The focus was so much on Yennefer that Geralt's nuanced personality got totally overshadowed. It needed more banter But that's modern storytelling for ya. All about the women.
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Post by AnDromedary on Oct 2, 2020 19:15:19 GMT
In other book news, I started with The Witcher book series. Given that I am a huge fan of the games, it always seemed wrong not to have read the books and nt that I just saw the Netflix series, I was in the mood. Started with the "The last Wish" short story compilation, which is pretty much what they based all of Geralt's stories in the tv show on. Pretty decent so far. Didn't expect Geralt to be such a chatterbox in the book though. YES! I love love love the novels. It's all about the characters. Very Bioware-style in a sense with lots of banter and loyal companions and so much heart it makes you bawl your eyes out at the end. Yes, start with The Last Wish. Then read the actual saga. Read Sword Of Destiny AFTERWARDS. Because for the full emotional impact you need to have gone through hell with these characters. Only then can you really appreciate the flashback stories imo. Especially the one where Geralt and Ciri first meet. Probably one of the most emotional reading experiences of my life, this short story. And yes, book Geralt is quite chatty and makes friends everywhere he goes, which is kind of hilarious for an outcast, hahaha. That's why I thought the Netflix series did him a bit of a disservice. The focus was so much on Yennefer that Geralt's nuanced personality got totally overshadowed. It needed more banter But that's modern storytelling for ya. All about the women. I just thought the series was really well aligned with the games, both in style and in how the characters are presented, which I thought was great, coming mostly from the games at this point.
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It took me months but I finally finished reading A Canticle for Leibowitz. It bogged down in part 2 (for me) when the focus turned to futuristic medieval politics - boorrrrrinnngg! The ending was depressing (actually, the end of each act was rather depressing). I'm not sure if it's meant to be hopeful at the end but I didn't see it that way. Humans just suck.
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It took me months but I finally finished reading A Canticle for Leibowitz. It bogged down in part 2 (for me) when the focus turned to futuristic medieval politics - boorrrrrinnngg! The ending was depressing (actually, the end of each act was rather depressing). I'm not sure if it's meant to be hopeful at the end but I didn't see it that way. Humans just suck. I think it sorta commented on the cyclical nature of history. How they kept rising and falling thanks to human failings. But in the end, human endure (as well as the Catholic Church). Because remember: The colony ships did make it off Earth before it was destroyed Though it should come as no surprise that Walter M Miller Jr did suffer from depression The second part is the medieval/Renaissance part isn't it? I thought that section had some rather humorous moments "It's still not Him," he told them sourly, then hobbled away.Afterwards, there was little formality. " Yeah, I've read this book a few times.
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It's another audiobook but linking it anyway:
One of the most delightful short stories I've ever come across. The narrator is the voice of Mass Effect's admiral Koris btw.
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It's another audiobook but linking it anyway: One of the most delightful short stories I've ever come across. The narrator is the voice of Mass Effect's admiral Koris btw. How did you notice this, I am hopeless at picking voices especially from older games!!!!! I am impressed though, does it feel weird having Admiral Koris read to you?
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How did you notice this, I am hopeless at picking voices especially from older games!!!!! I am impressed though, does it feel weird having Admiral Koris read to you? Oh, I didn't realize it either! I looked up his name because he did such a good job and was VERY surprised to see ME listed among his extensive voice work. I'm horrible at recognizing voices myself. I never forget a face but voices are difficult for me.
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Post by AnDromedary on Oct 4, 2020 15:52:44 GMT
Kappa Neko : Thanks for the tip about the reading order. I just finished The Last Wish and was about to start Sword of Destiny but I put it aside now as per you recommendation. I decided to throw in Season of Storms now though because from all I saw, it fits best before the actual saga begins. Decent start so far, though those bean eating farting guards were a bit weird, I gotta say.
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How did you notice this, I am hopeless at picking voices especially from older games!!!!! I am impressed though, does it feel weird having Admiral Koris read to you? Oh, I didn't realize it either! I looked up his name because he did such a good job and was VERY surprised to see ME listed among his extensive voice work. I'm horrible at recognizing voices myself. I never forget a face but voices are difficult for me. Actually I did pick a voice once, the guy who plays Vernon Roche in the The Witcher games 2&3 is the same guy who voices Aroane in Dracks Loyalty Mission in MEA.
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I just finished this book, was pretty good, very mystical. Not sure what I will read next perhaps another Allan Quartermain novel or perhaps back to sci fi for a bit.
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Hey Iakus just finished "Small Favour" in the Dresden Files and about to start the next books "Turn Coat" and i noticed there is a Novolette about Thomas called "Back Up". Have you read it and do you recommend me reading it before moving forward in the series?
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Post by Iakus on Oct 14, 2020 16:13:05 GMT
Hey Iakus just finished "Small Favour" in the Dresden Files and about to start the next books "Turn Coat" and i noticed there is a Novolette about Thomas called "Back Up". Have you read it and do you recommend me reading it before moving forward in the series? I've read it, and I do recommend it, though you don't have to have read it to understand what's going on in the series. In fact, it was important to Thomas that Harry NOT discover what's going on! There is, I think a brief throwaway reference to Backup in Cold Days. But that's several books away from where you are at.
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Post by dazk on Oct 14, 2020 23:21:27 GMT
Hey Iakus just finished "Small Favour" in the Dresden Files and about to start the next books "Turn Coat" and i noticed there is a Novolette about Thomas called "Back Up". Have you read it and do you recommend me reading it before moving forward in the series? I've read it, and I do recommend it, though you don't have to have read it to understand what's going on in the series. In fact, it was important to Thomas that Harry NOT discover what's going on! There is, I think a brief throwaway reference to Backup in Cold Days. But that's several books away from where you are at. I am keen to read it but Kindle Store is only showing a $130 Hardback edition?????? I won't be buying that. Might see if i can find a cheap version of the paperback if I can.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 14, 2020 23:56:42 GMT
I've read it, and I do recommend it, though you don't have to have read it to understand what's going on in the series. In fact, it was important to Thomas that Harry NOT discover what's going on! There is, I think a brief throwaway reference to Backup in Cold Days. But that's several books away from where you are at. I am keen to read it but Kindle Store is only showing a $130 Hardback edition?????? I won't be buying that. Might see if i can find a cheap version of the paperback if I can. Check out the book "Side Jobs" It's the first volume of all the Dresden short fiction (everything that takes place up through Changes, it even tells you when it takes place in the timeline). Backup should be included.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 14, 2020 23:59:06 GMT
Speaking of THe Dresden Files, I recently finished Battle Ground. I have never enjoyed a book I wanted to throw against the wall so much in my life.
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