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Post by saberchic on Dec 2, 2016 23:22:25 GMT
People keep mentioning Sam as a possible AI. Surely it's more likely he's a VI? AI's are illegal and EDI was based on Reaper tech. EDI became AI before reaper tech was added. She was the rogue VI on the moon in ME. AI are illegal, but that doesn't stop people from experimenting. Humanity has and I believe some of the other council races too (iirc from some of the books). They basically dance around it. But having an AI along would be interesting. We've come across EDI and that one AI on the Citadel who tries to blow us up. I would love to get more into how AI evolve and how they would fit in (or not) with us. That is something I could see being explored in Andromeda beside the whole "we're the aliens" arc.
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Post by Sartoz on Dec 3, 2016 0:28:17 GMT
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Eh,, what exactly did he confirm....'Cause now I'm getting the feeling they purposely misled how "real" combat behaves. That they cut squadmates appearance during the fighting scene and avoided using the cover. *´¨) ¸.•´¸.•*´¨) ¸.•*¨) (¸.•´ (¸.•` ¤ Mass Effect Andromeda
So, once again, Bio attempts to convey something that isn't. In other words, that hectic chaotic combat doesn't exist. Yet, they went ahead and promoted that illusion.
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Post by Sartoz on Dec 3, 2016 0:29:26 GMT
People keep mentioning Sam as a possible AI. Surely it's more likely he's a VI? AI's are illegal and EDI was based on Reaper tech. *´¨) ¸.•´¸.•*´¨) ¸.•*¨) (¸.•´ (¸.•` ¤ Mass Effect Andromeda
Go ahead. Tell us the difference.
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Post by bshep on Dec 3, 2016 0:34:06 GMT
That they cut squadmates appearance during the fighting scene and avoided using the cover. *´¨) ¸.•´¸.•*´¨) ¸.•*¨) (¸.•´ (¸.•` ¤ Mass Effect Andromeda
So, once again, Bio attempts to convey something that isn't. In other words, that hectic chaotic combat doesn't exist. Yet, they went ahead and promoted that illusion. Stop jumping the gun Sartoz.
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Post by Sartoz on Dec 3, 2016 0:36:59 GMT
People keep mentioning Sam as a possible AI. Surely it's more likely he's a VI? AI's are illegal and EDI was based on Reaper tech. *´¨) ¸.•´¸.•*´¨) ¸.•*¨) (¸.•´ (¸.•` ¤ Mass Effect Andromeda
Forgot to mention. Do you believe MW galactic civilization LAWs apply here in Andromeda? ..Illegality of AI vs VI as an example.
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Post by Sartoz on Dec 3, 2016 0:38:47 GMT
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So, once again, Bio attempts to convey something that isn't. In other words, that hectic chaotic combat doesn't exist. Yet, they went ahead and promoted that illusion. Stop jumping the gun Sartoz. *´¨) ¸.•´¸.•*´¨) ¸.•*¨) (¸.•´ (¸.•` ¤ Mass Effect Andromeda
I could also say stop sucking up.... but I won't. What's your explanation.
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Post by bshep on Dec 3, 2016 0:49:42 GMT
Just because they edited the gameplay video doesn't mean that combat can't be fast paced.
And by the way you do that a lot.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 3, 2016 1:55:46 GMT
I think they said on twitter it depends on how you build your character. It might lead to the type of combat shown in the trailer, as well as a more cover based approach.
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Post by KaiserShep on Dec 3, 2016 2:28:48 GMT
I personally always thought that Aria was more hung up on Nyreen than the other way around... I think it was mutual, the way those two were always bickering feels a lot like there was still some sexual tension between them. Anyway, i was satisfied with Nyreen's role on Omega i just wish she didn't died. I'm probably alone here but I was happy with her death, since it was what set Aria off in a slow-mo biotic rage. It makes her choking Petrovsky to death while she mind-rapes him all the better.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Dec 3, 2016 2:40:21 GMT
I think they said on twitter it depends on how you build your character. It might lead to the type of combat shown in the trailer, as well as a more cover based approach. If you look through the trailer again you'll see 3-4 different builds showcased. There's adept, vanguard and infiltrator builds. The ability icons change per cut.
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Dec 3, 2016 3:12:42 GMT
People keep mentioning Sam as a possible AI. Surely it's more likely he's a VI? AI's are illegal and EDI was based on Reaper tech. *´¨) ¸.•´¸.•*´¨) ¸.•*¨) (¸.•´ (¸.•` ¤ Mass Effect Andromeda
Forgot to mention. Do you believe MW galactic civilization LAWs apply here in Andromeda? ..Illegality of AI vs VI as an example. They do not, obviously, but the AI was launched from the MW and one would surely assume it ran things in accordance with Council laws there? It is a Council race initiative, not a rogue Cerberus operation like in ME2, it's got Nike style recruitment billboards and shit: it's pretty legit.....my guess it's a VI that at some point in the story exceeds its original programming to become an AI, kind of like EDI via the moon VI adventure. The head of security has already been turfed off the Nexus for fucking up something, no doubt a rule of sorts, so it's clear rules of some sort govern the 'station' and it's extended nipples that are the Hyperion et al.
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Post by AnDromedary on Dec 3, 2016 4:40:13 GMT
So, is it just me or does this look super colorful? I'd almost say somewhat cartoonish.
The gameplay looks ok, though I hope we can also approach this as more of a tactical cover shooter again. I guess all that extremely close up combat was due to the vanguard playstyle they used here and for the trailer, to show off some action and close-ups of enemies.
The facial animations and hair looks pretty bad though, I hope this will be massively polished before release.
The scanning reminded me of the witcher senses in Witcher 3 (which is not that great). I also really hope there won't be too many collectibles and pick-ups, crafting or no crafting, do not make this a DA:I in space please!
Interesting detail: Right after the Krogan mentions that the guys in this place were kicked off the station, Ryder asks about Sloane Kelly, who is -or was - apparently a high ranking member of Nexus security. Is she the woman in the brief conversation scene we saw?
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Post by Reznore on Dec 3, 2016 5:27:32 GMT
I like the female Ryder and her voice...but *shrug* I'm still not into it. I'll probably wait for some reviews and get the game on sales at a later date. I'm sure it's going to be entertaining somewhat, just not my cup of tea.
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Post by Element Zero on Dec 3, 2016 5:44:07 GMT
So, is it just me or does this look super colorful? I'd almost say somewhat cartoonish. The gameplay looks ok, though I hope we can also approach this as more of a tactical cover shooter again. I guess all that extremely close up combat was due to the vanguard playstyle they used here and for the trailer, to show off some action and close-ups of enemies. The facial animations and hair looks pretty bad though, I hope this will be massively polished before release. The scanning reminded me of the witcher senses in Witcher 3 (which is not that great). I also really hope there won't be too many collectibles and pick-ups, crafting or no crafting, do not make this a DA:I in space please! Interesting detail: Right after the Krogan mentions that the guys in this place were kicked off the station, Ryder asks about Sloane Kelly, who is -or was - apparently a high ranking member of Nexus security. Is she the woman in the brief conversation scene we saw? Yep, that was Sloane with a fresh, edgier hairstyle. (You can see her Alliance/Ai 'do on the Ai site.) Seems like someone did a pisspoor job appointing someone like her Chief Security Officer. Jien, most likely?
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Post by Fredward on Dec 3, 2016 6:11:05 GMT
With the immense baggage AIs have attached no one in their right mind is going to create an AI for a 600 year voyage and install it on a little bubble protecting tens of thousands of people from the cruel vacuum of space.
So either Sam's a VI or a very recent AI deemed a necessary risk to help the Pathfinder on their Super Ultra Important mission. I suppose I could see either but I'm leaning towards VI. Maybe he's a geth consciousness like Legion that some mad scientist installed on the Tempest for Science.
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Post by Element Zero on Dec 3, 2016 6:27:36 GMT
Maybe Sam is a normal guy that gets royally screwed by the cryosleep accident that impairs the Ryder sibling. Instead of being reduced from "Pathfinder Scout" to a desk job, poor Sam ends up stuck with significant cybernetics.
Maybe Sam is a synthetic, maybe not. I did try to think of what S.A.M. could mean, in terms of a starship intelligence, for about 2 seconds while watching the trailer. If Sam is a synthetic, I hope it's very different from EDI. I liked EDI before it got a body. Afterward, meh...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 8:43:51 GMT
I noticed that Krogans bow down in the last trailer when they see you, maybe because you're with Drack?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 8:45:22 GMT
I noticed that Krogans bow down in the last trailer when they see you, maybe because you're with Drack? Drack... New Canderous Ordo, mayhaps?
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Post by SofaJockey on Dec 3, 2016 8:58:40 GMT
With the immense baggage AIs have attached no one in their right mind is going to create an AI for a 600 year voyage and install it on a little bubble protecting tens of thousands of people from the cruel vacuum of space... What could possibly go wrong with that?
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Post by kumazan on Dec 3, 2016 10:06:56 GMT
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Forgot to mention. Do you believe MW galactic civilization LAWs apply here in Andromeda? ..Illegality of AI vs VI as an example. They do not, obviously, but the AI was launched from the MW and one would surely assume it ran things in accordance with Council laws there? It is a Council race initiative, not a rogue Cerberus operation like in ME2, it's got Nike style recruitment billboards and shit: it's pretty legit.....my guess it's a VI that at some point in the story exceeds its original programming to become an AI, kind of like EDI via the moon VI adventure. The head of security has already been turfed off the Nexus for fucking up something, no doubt a rule of sorts, so it's clear rules of some sort govern the 'station' and it's extended nipples that are the Hyperion et al. Nike has Nike style billboards and still they have used, and may still use, child labor. Assuming the Ai will follow Council laws is a big assumption to make when we know humanity has worked in IA research, and it would be pretty naïve to think the other species, especially salarians, haven't done the same.
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Post by ProbeAway on Dec 3, 2016 11:08:30 GMT
No one seems to have mentioned it yet, but I can't be the only one who notice the heat hazard on one of the planets. Nice little nod to ME1.
I'm still holding out hope that there will be some kind of tactical pause function, even though they said that the power wheel is (very disappointingly) gone.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Dec 3, 2016 11:13:39 GMT
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What... is going on here.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 3, 2016 11:15:52 GMT
No one seems to have mentioned it yet, but I can't be the only one who notice the heat hazard on one of the planets. Nice little nod to ME1. I'm still holding out hope that there will be some kind of tactical pause function, even though they said that the power wheel is (very disappointingly) gone. They shown what the pause looks like in the game. You can use it to switch weapons and type of ammo (like disruptor). I'm interested in what they meant with squadmate being 'controllable'.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 3, 2016 11:21:15 GMT
No one seems to have mentioned it yet, but I can't be the only one who notice the heat hazard on one of the planets. Nice little nod to ME1. I think nobody has mentioned it because the Game Informer articles talked about it a couple times, specifically that planet as well as a few other hazards. I'm glad they are making it so environmental hazards are an actual threat. They did it in ME1 like you said, but after that only Haestrom in ME2 had it and ME3 just had it in a few multiplayer maps. Hopefully our companions are actually properly suited up this time like ME1 rather than like ME2 and lesser extent ME3.
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Post by Obliviousmiss on Dec 3, 2016 11:21:57 GMT
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What... is going on here. This is a lot better than what he used to do. He likes to make his posts "distinctive...."
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