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Post by Hier0phant on Jan 22, 2018 3:43:55 GMT
at least more likely she is then Rey is, Really not, because at the very least we can see and assume where her talents and combat prowess come from. Mandolorian training starts at 5, they are taught survival in hostile environs, small unit and combat tactics, how to maintain and repair weaponry and armor, and more. Back in the EU Mando's went out for their 'first war' at the age of 12. For those born into it obviously, those who came to it of their own accord are usually professional soldiers, mercs or whatever anyway. Unlike the dirt farmer Rey who is a master duelist and Force wielder out of literally nowhere. I don't care what nobody say but i'll glady take Karen Traviss back as a consultant or writer on all things Mandalarian.
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Post by smilesja on Jan 22, 2018 3:45:42 GMT
Ironically Luke was pretty much that big of a brat in the OT. Which why some people were disappointed to see regress back to that in the ST.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 22, 2018 3:45:45 GMT
I still find that a really peculiar interpretation of the scene. Snoke owned Rey, broke into her mind easily, saw Kylos every intention, just misinterpreted it. At no point did he indicate that he was having any trouble with Rey's steadfast resistance.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 22, 2018 3:46:35 GMT
Ironically Luke was pretty much that big of a brat in the OT. Which why some people were disappointed to see regress back to that in the ST. only to rise farther then he ever had.
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Post by mybudgee on Jan 22, 2018 4:19:13 GMT
I still find that a really peculiar interpretation of the scene. Snoke owned Rey, broke into her mind easily, saw Kylos every intention, just misinterpreted it. At no point did he indicate that he was having any trouble with Rey's steadfast resistance. The only people who have a problem with her "Steadfastness" are the more critical members of the audience Rey has no growth or big challenges to overcome in ep. 8. She kicks the ass of the few SMALL problems she faces
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 22, 2018 4:21:03 GMT
|The great thing about YouTube is that you can find a dopey video to "prove" any point you want to make. Hardly have to even think anymore. Not if you apply critical thinking.
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Post by mybudgee on Jan 22, 2018 4:24:01 GMT
|The great thing about YouTube is that you can find a dopey video to "prove" any point you want to make. Hardly have to even think anymore. Not if you apply critical thinking. Most millennials think this means watching an Angry Joe vid
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Post by Iakus on Jan 22, 2018 4:40:22 GMT
Ironically Luke was pretty much that big of a brat in the OT. Orly?
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Post by Iakus on Jan 22, 2018 4:41:04 GMT
On a more humorous note:
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Post by Hier0phant on Jan 22, 2018 5:12:56 GMT
I still find that a really peculiar interpretation of the scene. Snoke owned Rey, broke into her mind easily, saw Kylos every intention, just misinterpreted it. At no point did he indicate that he was having any trouble with Rey's steadfast resistance. Kylo still owes Rey, deal with it.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 22, 2018 5:37:05 GMT
I still find that a really peculiar interpretation of the scene. Snoke owned Rey, broke into her mind easily, saw Kylos every intention, just misinterpreted it. At no point did he indicate that he was having any trouble with Rey's steadfast resistance. Kylo still owes Rey, deal with it. I guess? Is it a big deal?
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Post by Hier0phant on Jan 22, 2018 7:09:39 GMT
Kylo still owes Rey, deal with it. I guess? Is it a big deal? Look at his face and you tell me?
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jan 22, 2018 8:15:37 GMT
Not if you apply critical thinking. Most millennials think this means watching an Angry Joe vid You do realize that you linked a YouTube video defending your opinion on why Rebels suck, right?
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Post by colfoley on Jan 22, 2018 8:23:37 GMT
Kylo Ren's face looks awfully tired there, other than that I am not sure why you are showing it to me.
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Post by mybudgee on Jan 22, 2018 10:54:33 GMT
Most millennials think this means watching an Angry Joe vid You do realize that you linked a YouTube video defending your opinion on why Rebels suck, right? Yeah, & I thought you guys would appreciate it... oh well
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jan 22, 2018 12:13:16 GMT
You do realize that you linked a YouTube video defending your opinion on why Rebels suck, right? Yeah, & I thought you guys would appreciate it... oh well Seems to go against your whole everyone having their own opinion.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Jan 22, 2018 12:19:33 GMT
I for one am too busy to write articles on forums. Videos do my job. Someone who can type the stuff said in those vids will be appreciated
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Post by CrutchCricket on Jan 22, 2018 14:21:16 GMT
He didn't display fear, he said he had fear. Or Yoda said he had fear. Very unconvincing. If Rey said she's not very good, does that make her not very good? What about if someone else said she's not very good while she's dismembering ten members of an elite guard, does that make her not very good? If Anakin is portrayed as perfect in episode 1, a little green puppet saying "ooh, much fear you have in you" doesn't add to his character depth. As for anger, he never lost control of it. It's a mild thing in episode 1, it doesn't detract from what is obviously a perfect person. lol, yes, that's why Jake Lloyd quit acting and probably still has PTSD. Because fans complained his Anakin was too "perfect". This sums up Rey adequately. What gets me is all these "marysue omgz sjw shut up omgz" people are basically shitting themselves because Rey is female. It's fairly evident given that other "marysues" get a free pass, like Luke and Anakin. They're willing to overinflate the source material, even the lousy prequels because of it. If anything, Rey is not a symbol of a feminist agenda, she is a generic heroine template cynically put in place because, dating back to the first Underworld film, women have shown they can be in front of a profitable action franchise. Except Selene is actually a good character, has flaws, has complex relationships miles above anything Mickey's put out (at least in the first movie) and a back story that perfectly justifies both her abilities and her motivations. And despite all this and Kate Beckinsale's caliber, it's not Selene alone that makes that movie appealing. It's actually the triumverate of Selene, Viktor and Lucian and how they play off each other. Note how sequels immediately start going to shit once two thirds of that triangle are lost? The second one scrapes by on some interesting story concepts, the prequel is passable because they get those two thirds back (and Rhona Mitra is a decent enough understudy), and the new ones are absolutely awful.
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Post by masterwarderz on Jan 22, 2018 17:20:58 GMT
Really not, because at the very least we can see and assume where her talents and combat prowess come from. Mandolorian training starts at 5, they are taught survival in hostile environs, small unit and combat tactics, how to maintain and repair weaponry and armor, and more. Back in the EU Mando's went out for their 'first war' at the age of 12. For those born into it obviously, those who came to it of their own accord are usually professional soldiers, mercs or whatever anyway. Unlike the dirt farmer Rey who is a master duelist and Force wielder out of literally nowhere. I don't care what nobody say but i'll glady take Karen Traviss back as a consultant or writer on all things Mandalarian. I admit I always sort of liked the Republic Commando series. But a lot of people, even fans of the old EU weren't exactly fond of her, but that said, considering the Clone Wars TV series caused her series to be canceled, who knows.
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Post by smilesja on Jan 22, 2018 19:46:58 GMT
I remember this controversy:
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Post by Hier0phant on Jan 23, 2018 3:31:03 GMT
I don't care what nobody say but i'll glady take Karen Traviss back as a consultant or writer on all things Mandalarian. I admit I always sort of liked the Republic Commando series. But a lot of people, even fans of the old EU weren't exactly fond of her, but that said, considering the Clone Wars TV series caused her series to be canceled, who knows. Most didn't like her writing at times because she had a tendency to hype all things Mandalor versus force users. Like when she decided that Jaina needed Mandalarian combat training from Boba and his clan in order to counter Jacen because Jedi techniques were ineffective, while Luke who almost killed Jacen and knows his moves was available to coach her. I did like Boba's character arc in regards to his relationship with his daughter and ex wife.
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Post by Hier0phant on Jan 23, 2018 3:40:18 GMT
Kylo Ren's face looks awfully tired there, other than that I am not sure why you are showing it to me. His expression says it's a big deal. Once he lays off the soy he'll properly thank Rey.
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Post by smilesja on Jan 23, 2018 18:44:43 GMT
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Post by Hier0phant on Jan 23, 2018 19:04:42 GMT
Lol dat shirtless Kylo doll
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Post by mybudgee on Jan 23, 2018 19:41:58 GMT
True, Johnson is kinda like that "special kid" that lived down the street & nobody wanted to play with because he didn't follow the rules...
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