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Post by mybudgee on Feb 18, 2018 3:07:09 GMT
Goddamn it... Episode 8 broke my heart. Now I am counting on Ron Howard of all people to put my fandom at ease. Never imagined this is how I'd feel between the second sequel & the second anthology flick If there is any good thing out of Solo's production is that shockingly their still gonna hit May 25th. I'm still excepting it to be delayed. *They're
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If there is any good thing out of Solo's production is that shockingly their still gonna hit May 25th. I'm still excepting it to be delayed. *They're Thanks...
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Post by Hier0phant on Feb 18, 2018 3:43:17 GMT
Ah there it is. I knew I was forgetting something. Still as it pertains to TLJ it likely wouldn't have worked either. A. The Resistance wasn't going anywhere anyways, everyone knew that, they weren't going to flee into hyperspace. B. The First Order already had effective technology which was making it difficult for them to escape effectively anyways. Intedictor tech would probably be more expensive and more of a resource waste then their tracker. C. We just do not know what goes into making an intedictor. My familiarity with SWs Lore is a bit inconsistent both across Canon and Legends but to my knowledge Intedictor ships were few and far between indicating their was some obstacle to mass producing the vessels as much as non intedictor ships. Only the Yuuzhan Vong seemed to have easily deployable intedictor tech. A. This was stupid on the part of the FO who could have sent forward a few destroyers through hyperspace and pincered the rebels. B. Having gravity well projectors on top of a hyperspace tracker is just playing it safe. The money spent on Snoke's ship would have been better spent on gravity well tech, extra dreadnoughts and destroyers. C. In Legends plot induced stupidity was the only obstacle towards the creation of a few fleets worth of Interdictor Destroyers, which cost around 30 mil more than a regular destroyer, and the empire had the money. Their two production options were...
a> build another Death Star with the same weakness as it's predecessor because blowing planets up is awesome b> build and introduce a few Interdictor Destroyers to each imperial fleet in order to counteract the rebels hit and run tactics In the Disney lore imperial destroyer class Interdictors are newly introduced and limited in production to the one shown in rebels which was very effective for a prototype. After Endor Kuat/FO had 30 years to build and improve upon that tech, but looking at the Supremacy shows us that Snoke is just like Palpatine in more ways than one, he's a terrible spender. C. We just do not know what goes into making an intedictor. My familiarity with SWs Lore is a bit inconsistent both across Canon and Legends but to my knowledge Intedictor ships were few and far between indicating their was some obstacle to mass producing the vessels as much as non intedictor ships. Only the Yuuzhan Vong seemed to have easily deployable intedictor tech. AFAIK part of the reason interdictors were rare is that they had the same kind of crew requirements and resource costs as a capital ship of equivalent size, but didn't have as much offensive power because of all the internal space taken up by the gravity well generators. If you were building a star destroyer sized ship to use standalone in system patrol or suchlike would you give up roughly five sixths of its fighter capacity and half of your turbolasers and ion cannons just to gain gravity wells? A few were built to be used as support for fleets and task groups AFAIK since one set of grav wells would be enough for the whole groups needs. Which begs the question: Was there 1 or more interdictors at the battle of endor? I never saw any, but that's exactly the kind of operation they'd be useful for. Having one to protect the DS-2 would have made too much sense, but irl they were conceptualized well after RoTJ. I still have yet to find anything on post Rebels Interdictors in Disney canon though.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 18, 2018 3:49:10 GMT
Ah there it is. I knew I was forgetting something. Still as it pertains to TLJ it likely wouldn't have worked either. A. The Resistance wasn't going anywhere anyways, everyone knew that, they weren't going to flee into hyperspace. B. The First Order already had effective technology which was making it difficult for them to escape effectively anyways. Intedictor tech would probably be more expensive and more of a resource waste then their tracker. C. We just do not know what goes into making an intedictor. My familiarity with SWs Lore is a bit inconsistent both across Canon and Legends but to my knowledge Intedictor ships were few and far between indicating their was some obstacle to mass producing the vessels as much as non intedictor ships. Only the Yuuzhan Vong seemed to have easily deployable intedictor tech. A. This was stupid on the part of the FO who could have sent forward a few destroyers through hyperspace and pincered the rebels. B. Having gravity well projectors on top of a hyperspace tracker is just playing it safe. The money spent on Snoke's ship would have been better spent on gravity well tech, extra dreadnoughts and destroyers. C. In Legends plot induced stupidity was the only obstacle towards the creation of a few fleets worth of Interdictor Destroyers, which cost around 30 mil more than a regular destroyer, and the empire had the money. Their two production options were...
a> build another Death Star with the same weakness as it's predecessor because blowing planets up is awesome b> build and introduce a few Interdictor Destroyers to each imperial fleet in order to counteract the rebels hit and run tactics In the Disney lore imperial destroyer class Interdictors are newly introduced and limited in production to the one shown in rebels which was very effective for a prototype. After Endor Kuat/FO had 30 years to build and improve upon that tech, but looking at the Supremacy shows us that Snoke is just like Palpatine in more ways than one, he's a terrible spender. AFAIK part of the reason interdictors were rare is that they had the same kind of crew requirements and resource costs as a capital ship of equivalent size, but didn't have as much offensive power because of all the internal space taken up by the gravity well generators. If you were building a star destroyer sized ship to use standalone in system patrol or suchlike would you give up roughly five sixths of its fighter capacity and half of your turbolasers and ion cannons just to gain gravity wells? A few were built to be used as support for fleets and task groups AFAIK since one set of grav wells would be enough for the whole groups needs. Which begs the question: Was there 1 or more interdictors at the battle of endor? I never saw any, but that's exactly the kind of operation they'd be useful for. Having one to protect the DS-2 would have made too much sense, but irl they were conceptualized well after RoTJ. I still have yet to find anything on post Rebels Interdictors in Disney canon though. Assuming the FO even had access to the tech or resources to make the tech.
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Post by Hier0phant on Feb 18, 2018 4:51:53 GMT
A. This was stupid on the part of the FO who could have sent forward a few destroyers through hyperspace and pincered the rebels. B. Having gravity well projectors on top of a hyperspace tracker is just playing it safe. The money spent on Snoke's ship would have been better spent on gravity well tech, extra dreadnoughts and destroyers. C. In Legends plot induced stupidity was the only obstacle towards the creation of a few fleets worth of Interdictor Destroyers, which cost around 30 mil more than a regular destroyer, and the empire had the money. Their two production options were...
a> build another Death Star with the same weakness as it's predecessor because blowing planets up is awesome b> build and introduce a few Interdictor Destroyers to each imperial fleet in order to counteract the rebels hit and run tactics
In the Disney lore imperial destroyer class Interdictors are newly introduced and limited in production to the one shown in rebels which was very effective for a prototype. After Endor Kuat/FO had 30 years to build and improve upon that tech, but looking at the Supremacy shows us that Snoke is just like Palpatine in more ways than one, he's a terrible spender. Having one to protect the DS-2 would have made too much sense, but irl they were conceptualized well after RoTJ. I still have yet to find anything on post Rebels Interdictors in Disney canon though. Assuming the FO even had access to the tech or resources to make the tech. They still had access to Kuat the Empire's primary ship manufacturer, and creators of the original Interdictor destroyer class. Thinking like Palpatine, Snoke commissioned them to build the Supremacy instead.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 4:52:42 GMT
I thought the First Order was just a fancy name for the Imperial Remnant.... Nah that'd be way too easy and make far to much sense in Disney Wars canon.
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Post by masterwarderz on Feb 18, 2018 20:06:33 GMT
I thought the First Order was just a fancy name for the Imperial Remnant.... Nah that'd be way too easy and make far to much sense in Disney Wars canon. Truth be told, them being part of the Remnant is giving them far too much credit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 20:15:01 GMT
I thought the First Order was just a fancy name for the Imperial Remnant.... Nah that'd be way too easy and make far to much sense in Disney Wars canon. Truth be told, them being part of the Remnant is giving them far too much credit. <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.599999999999994" style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 4.6px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 0px; top: 0px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_44784096"></iframe> <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.599999999999994" style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 4.6px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1134px; top: -190px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_62513248"></iframe> <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.599999999999994" style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 4.6px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 10px; top: -15px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_50012700"></iframe> <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.599999999999994" style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 4.6px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1134px; top: -15px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_18459209"></iframe> True, but I was being sarcastic....
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Post by smilesja on Feb 18, 2018 22:21:50 GMT
A. This was stupid on the part of the FO who could have sent forward a few destroyers through hyperspace and pincered the rebels. B. Having gravity well projectors on top of a hyperspace tracker is just playing it safe. The money spent on Snoke's ship would have been better spent on gravity well tech, extra dreadnoughts and destroyers. C. In Legends plot induced stupidity was the only obstacle towards the creation of a few fleets worth of Interdictor Destroyers, which cost around 30 mil more than a regular destroyer, and the empire had the money. Their two production options were...
a> build another Death Star with the same weakness as it's predecessor because blowing planets up is awesome b> build and introduce a few Interdictor Destroyers to each imperial fleet in order to counteract the rebels hit and run tactics
In the Disney lore imperial destroyer class Interdictors are newly introduced and limited in production to the one shown in rebels which was very effective for a prototype. After Endor Kuat/FO had 30 years to build and improve upon that tech, but looking at the Supremacy shows us that Snoke is just like Palpatine in more ways than one, he's a terrible spender. Having one to protect the DS-2 would have made too much sense, but irl they were conceptualized well after RoTJ. I still have yet to find anything on post Rebels Interdictors in Disney canon though. Assuming the FO even had access to the tech or resources to make the tech. They built a planet sized Death Star and a Dreadnought along with Snokes ship. They probably had a lot leftover.
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Post by Iakus on Feb 19, 2018 14:29:28 GMT
I thought the First Order was just a fancy name for the Imperial Remnant.... Nah that'd be way too easy and make far to much sense in Disney Wars canon. Disney's too busy burning down the old trilogy to actually try building a natural extension from it...
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Post by Andrew Waples on Feb 19, 2018 14:36:55 GMT
I thought the First Order was just a fancy name for the Imperial Remnant.... Nah that'd be way too easy and make far to much sense in Disney Wars canon. Disney's too busy burning down the old trilogy to actually try building a natural extension from it... Right...cause that's clearly their goal twirling their evil mustaches and such.
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Post by Iakus on Feb 19, 2018 15:19:01 GMT
Disney's too busy burning down the old trilogy to actually try building a natural extension from it... Right...cause that's clearly their goal twirling their evil mustaches and such. They own the franchise. Now they're scraping all the Lucas off it so they can make it in their own image.
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Post by tacsear on Feb 19, 2018 16:14:03 GMT
Right...cause that's clearly their goal twirling their evil mustaches and such. They own the franchise. Now they're scraping all the Lucas off it so they can make it in their own image. I think they're trying to make money from our nostalgia regarding the OT, like making a Han movie and Force Awakens being a rip off of New Hope. With the exclusion of Rogue One of course it's awesome
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Post by Andrew Waples on Feb 19, 2018 20:29:50 GMT
Right...cause that's clearly their goal twirling their evil mustaches and such. They own the franchise. Now they're scraping all the Lucas off it so they can make it in their own image. www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2018/02/two-new-starships-from-solo-a-star-wars-story-revealed-meet-the-imperial-hauler-and-the-arrestor-cruiser.html"Cantwell originally pitched the concept of that ship directly to George Lucas to be used in the original 1977 Star Wars film as a Star Destroyer, but it was ultimately scrapped in favor of a completely different version." thecantina.starwarsnewsnet.com/index.php?threads/george-lucas-lends-some-advice-on-the-set-of-solo-a-star-wars-story.54184/thecantina.starwarsnewsnet.com/index.php?threads/belfast-to-join-star-wars-universe-as-spinoff-movie-comes-to-town.54208/#post-481257"Star Wars creator George Lucas was in Belfast before Christmas checking out locations for a new stand-alone film." collider.com/george-lucas-star-wars-sequels-the-last-jedi/" George Lucas was kicking around some ideas for a Star Wars sequel trilogy, but those ideas were largely discarded when J.J. Abrams came on board in early 2013. However, some of Lucas’ ideas have still come to light via the new Art of Star Wars: The Last Jedi book. /Film reports that Lucas envisioned Episode VII as having Luke training a new disciple named Kira (later renamed Rey) at a Jedi Temple after secluding himself for the past thirty years. Sound familiar?" Original concept art of Luke's island originally showed to George: “This was a very early take on Luke’s temple, way back when there was still no director. This artwork was shown to George Lucas in a presentation. Doug [Chiang] came back and said, “Congratulations, James. You got a George “Fabulouso” stamp.” VFX art director James Clyne recalls. Adds Lucasfilm executive creative director Doug Chiang, “After working with George on the prequels for seven years, I knewin some ways how to anticipate what forms he would like – which is really good, because he still likes those forms. So for the Jedi temple, he loved that bell shape. It’s reminiscent of some of the imagery that [original Star Wars trilogy concept artist] Ralph McQuarrie painted way back.”
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Post by Iakus on Feb 19, 2018 20:36:03 GMT
They own the franchise. Now they're scraping all the Lucas off it so they can make it in their own image. www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2018/02/two-new-starships-from-solo-a-star-wars-story-revealed-meet-the-imperial-hauler-and-the-arrestor-cruiser.html"Cantwell originally pitched the concept of that ship directly to George Lucas to be used in the original 1977 Star Wars film as a Star Destroyer, but it was ultimately scrapped in favor of a completely different version." thecantina.starwarsnewsnet.com/index.php?threads/george-lucas-lends-some-advice-on-the-set-of-solo-a-star-wars-story.54184/thecantina.starwarsnewsnet.com/index.php?threads/belfast-to-join-star-wars-universe-as-spinoff-movie-comes-to-town.54208/#post-481257"Star Wars creator George Lucas was in Belfast before Christmas checking out locations for a new stand-alone film." collider.com/george-lucas-star-wars-sequels-the-last-jedi/" George Lucas was kicking around some ideas for a Star Wars sequel trilogy, but those ideas were largely discarded when J.J. Abrams came on board in early 2013. However, some of Lucas’ ideas have still come to light via the new Art of Star Wars: The Last Jedi book. /Film reports that Lucas envisioned Episode VII as having Luke training a new disciple named Kira (later renamed Rey) at a Jedi Temple after secluding himself for the past thirty years. Sound familiar?" Original concept art of Luke's island originally showed to George: “This was a very early take on Luke’s temple, way back when there was still no director. This artwork was shown to George Lucas in a presentation. Doug [Chiang] came back and said, “Congratulations, James. You got a George “Fabulouso” stamp.” VFX art director James Clyne recalls. Adds Lucasfilm executive creative director Doug Chiang, “After working with George on the prequels for seven years, I knewin some ways how to anticipate what forms he would like – which is really good, because he still likes those forms. So for the Jedi temple, he loved that bell shape. It’s reminiscent of some of the imagery that [original Star Wars trilogy concept artist] Ralph McQuarrie painted way back.”
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www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2018/02/two-new-starships-from-solo-a-star-wars-story-revealed-meet-the-imperial-hauler-and-the-arrestor-cruiser.html"Cantwell originally pitched the concept of that ship directly to George Lucas to be used in the original 1977 Star Wars film as a Star Destroyer, but it was ultimately scrapped in favor of a completely different version." thecantina.starwarsnewsnet.com/index.php?threads/george-lucas-lends-some-advice-on-the-set-of-solo-a-star-wars-story.54184/thecantina.starwarsnewsnet.com/index.php?threads/belfast-to-join-star-wars-universe-as-spinoff-movie-comes-to-town.54208/#post-481257"Star Wars creator George Lucas was in Belfast before Christmas checking out locations for a new stand-alone film." collider.com/george-lucas-star-wars-sequels-the-last-jedi/" George Lucas was kicking around some ideas for a Star Wars sequel trilogy, but those ideas were largely discarded when J.J. Abrams came on board in early 2013. However, some of Lucas’ ideas have still come to light via the new Art of Star Wars: The Last Jedi book. /Film reports that Lucas envisioned Episode VII as having Luke training a new disciple named Kira (later renamed Rey) at a Jedi Temple after secluding himself for the past thirty years. Sound familiar?" Original concept art of Luke's island originally showed to George: “This was a very early take on Luke’s temple, way back when there was still no director. This artwork was shown to George Lucas in a presentation. Doug [Chiang] came back and said, “Congratulations, James. You got a George “Fabulouso” stamp.” VFX art director James Clyne recalls. Adds Lucasfilm executive creative director Doug Chiang, “After working with George on the prequels for seven years, I knewin some ways how to anticipate what forms he would like – which is really good, because he still likes those forms. So for the Jedi temple, he loved that bell shape. It’s reminiscent of some of the imagery that [original Star Wars trilogy concept artist] Ralph McQuarrie painted way back.”
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