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Post by colfoley on May 5, 2018 3:57:15 GMT
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Post by HK90210 on May 5, 2018 4:11:00 GMT
I'm of two minds about Solo. On the one hand, it does look like a fine Star Wars movie. Nothing I've seen in the trailers makes me nervous about it(a big change from both VII and VIII). It looks on par with Rogue One, at least. So I want to give it a fair shake. Also, I have enormous respect for Ron Howard as a filmmaker, so I don't think the film is going to be bad from a cinematic point-of-view.
On the other, I REALLY want to send a message to Disney about my displeasure over TLJ, and I feel like the only message they will understand is withholding my wallet.
My leaning is to wait long enough to see which way the wind is blowing as far as the box office. If it's bombing(relatively speaking. It's still Star Wars so it WILL make money), I'll go see it sooner. If it does well, I'll hold off until it's on its way out of theaters. That will give me the chance to read/hear some reviewers that I trust to come back with their feelings on the film. But I'm not going to boycott it. I'm saving that for Episode IX. Really can't see myself watching the conclusion of the sequel trilogy mess.
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Post by mybudgee on May 5, 2018 4:29:15 GMT
I'm of two minds about Solo. On the one hand, it does look like a fine Star Wars movie. Nothing I've seen in the trailers makes me nervous about it(a big change from both VII and VIII). It looks on par with Rogue One, at least. So I want to give it a fair shake. Also, I have enormous respect for Ron Howard as a filmmaker, so I don't think the film is going to be bad from a cinematic point-of-view. On the other, I REALLY want to send a message to Disney about my displeasure over TLJ, and I feel like the only message they will understand is withholding my wallet. My leaning is to wait long enough to see which way the wind is blowing as far as the box office. If it's bombing(relatively speaking. It's still Star Wars so it WILL make money), I'll go see it sooner. If it does well, I'll hold off until it's on its way out of theaters. That will give me the chance to read/hear some reviewers that I trust to come back with their feelings on the film. But I'm not going to boycott it. I'm saving that for Episode IX. Really can't see myself watching the conclusion of the sequel trilogy mess. This post reflects my thoughts Exactly TM
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Post by Heimdall on May 5, 2018 12:24:30 GMT
I'm of two minds about Solo. On the one hand, it does look like a fine Star Wars movie. Nothing I've seen in the trailers makes me nervous about it(a big change from both VII and VIII). It looks on par with Rogue One, at least. So I want to give it a fair shake. Also, I have enormous respect for Ron Howard as a filmmaker, so I don't think the film is going to be bad from a cinematic point-of-view. On the other, I REALLY want to send a message to Disney about my displeasure over TLJ, and I feel like the only message they will understand is withholding my wallet. My leaning is to wait long enough to see which way the wind is blowing as far as the box office. If it's bombing(relatively speaking. It's still Star Wars so it WILL make money), I'll go see it sooner. If it does well, I'll hold off until it's on its way out of theaters. That will give me the chance to read/hear some reviewers that I trust to come back with their feelings on the film. But I'm not going to boycott it. I'm saving that for Episode IX. Really can't see myself watching the conclusion of the sequel trilogy mess. On the other hand, you might want to send Disney the message that this sort of Star Wars is what you want to see and this discredit the TLJ approach to the franchise. Obviously depending on the quality of the film.
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Post by Andrew Waples on May 5, 2018 13:59:09 GMT
I'm of two minds about Solo. On the one hand, it does look like a fine Star Wars movie. Nothing I've seen in the trailers makes me nervous about it(a big change from both VII and VIII). It looks on par with Rogue One, at least. So I want to give it a fair shake. Also, I have enormous respect for Ron Howard as a filmmaker, so I don't think the film is going to be bad from a cinematic point-of-view. On the other, I REALLY want to send a message to Disney about my displeasure over TLJ, and I feel like the only message they will understand is withholding my wallet. My leaning is to wait long enough to see which way the wind is blowing as far as the box office. If it's bombing(relatively speaking. It's still Star Wars so it WILL make money), I'll go see it sooner. If it does well, I'll hold off until it's on its way out of theaters. That will give me the chance to read/hear some reviewers that I trust to come back with their feelings on the film. But I'm not going to boycott it. I'm saving that for Episode IX. Really can't see myself watching the conclusion of the sequel trilogy mess. This is what I don't understand with some of the fandom. If you think Solo or 9 for that matter is bad, just don't see it. Save boycotting for more actual serious issues. They're just dumb movies. Plus, if only a handful of you actually "boycott" Solo or 9. It's not going to effect Disney or Lucasfilm in anyway. Just don't see it, I don't understand why you need to have a dumb "boycott" over it. It makes it sound like your fighting for a cause that's purely designed for entertainment purposes only; which is stupid.
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Post by HK90210 on May 5, 2018 15:15:00 GMT
I'm of two minds about Solo. On the one hand, it does look like a fine Star Wars movie. Nothing I've seen in the trailers makes me nervous about it(a big change from both VII and VIII). It looks on par with Rogue One, at least. So I want to give it a fair shake. Also, I have enormous respect for Ron Howard as a filmmaker, so I don't think the film is going to be bad from a cinematic point-of-view. On the other, I REALLY want to send a message to Disney about my displeasure over TLJ, and I feel like the only message they will understand is withholding my wallet. My leaning is to wait long enough to see which way the wind is blowing as far as the box office. If it's bombing(relatively speaking. It's still Star Wars so it WILL make money), I'll go see it sooner. If it does well, I'll hold off until it's on its way out of theaters. That will give me the chance to read/hear some reviewers that I trust to come back with their feelings on the film. But I'm not going to boycott it. I'm saving that for Episode IX. Really can't see myself watching the conclusion of the sequel trilogy mess. This is what I don't understand with some of the fandom. If you think Solo or 9 for that matter is bad, just don't see it. Save boycotting for more actual serious issues. They're just dumb movies. Plus, if only a handful of you actually "boycott" Solo or 9. It's not going to effect Disney or Lucasfilm in anyway. Just don't see it, I don't understand why you need to have a dumb "boycott" over it. It makes it sound like your fighting for a cause that's purely designed for entertainment purposes only; which is stupid. The fact that you label Star Wars as a bunch of "dumb movies" is pretty indicative of how you and I differ over this. They're only stories, that's true. But they still matter to a lot of us a heck of a lot more than they seem to matter to you. And that's ok. Folks can differ over how valuable a piece of entertainment is to them. But to say that bunch of 'dumb movies' shouldn't matter to someone enough that they should vote with their wallet seems a tad arrogant. As if you have a monopoly on how much a piece of entertainment should matter to a person. And you seem to be under the impression that boycotts are some kind of higher calling. Only for tree-huggers or religious fanatics fighting for some great cause. As if they're meant to bring about social/political/economic change. That's not the way I view them. To me, all they are meant for is to send a message in a form that a large company/corporation can understand. And just because Star Wars is a bunch of 'dumb movies' doesn't mean that Disney/Lucasfilm doesn't deserve to hear about it. I think you will be surprised at just how many won't see Episode IX, wither on principle or because they think it will be a terrible movie. Will it still make money? Sure. But it won't make the money Disney wanted it to. And that's all any boycott of that film should be attempting to do. Also, for the record, I DO think that Episode IX will be terrible. The foundation left by VII AND VIII doesn't really make for very good story.
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Post by Andrew Waples on May 5, 2018 15:44:37 GMT
This is what I don't understand with some of the fandom. If you think Solo or 9 for that matter is bad, just don't see it. Save boycotting for more actual serious issues. They're just dumb movies. Plus, if only a handful of you actually "boycott" Solo or 9. It's not going to effect Disney or Lucasfilm in anyway. Just don't see it, I don't understand why you need to have a dumb "boycott" over it. It makes it sound like your fighting for a cause that's purely designed for entertainment purposes only; which is stupid. The fact that you label Star Wars as a bunch of "dumb movies" is pretty indicative of how you and I differ over this. They're only stories, that's true. But they still matter to a lot of us a heck of a lot more than they seem to matter to you. And that's ok. Folks can differ over how valuable a piece of entertainment is to them. But to say that bunch of 'dumb movies' shouldn't matter to someone enough that they should vote with their wallet seems a tad arrogant. As if you have a monopoly on how much a piece of entertainment should matter to a person. And you seem to be under the impression that boycotts are some kind of higher calling. Only for tree-huggers or religious fanatics fighting for some great cause. As if they're meant to bring about social/political/economic change. That's not the way I view them. To me, all they are meant for is to send a message in a form that a large company/corporation can understand. And just because Star Wars is a bunch of 'dumb movies' doesn't mean that Disney/Lucasfilm doesn't deserve to hear about it. I think you will be surprised at just how many won't see Episode IX, wither on principle or because they think it will be a terrible movie. Will it still make money? Sure. But it won't make the money Disney wanted it to. And that's all any boycott of that film should be attempting to do. Also, for the record, I DO think that Episode IX will be terrible. The foundation left by VII AND VIII doesn't really make for very good story. Fair enough. As I said, it makes it sound like it's some cause your fighting for. Like your fandom is at stake or something like that.
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Post by Iakus on May 5, 2018 15:59:20 GMT
Nice umlauts (sp?) Flaws and all it's still better than the dogshit prequels. I also know where Lucas's echo chamber genius runs out of steam and I don't overinflate the source material of the original three films. I look forward to all the whiteknighting for Solo coming soon. I moved from cautiously optimistic to anticipating feces. What in the flying fuck are yöu talking aböut? I did nöt mentiön the prequels at all. I think they are shit alsö. I said that it is funny that yöu say the EU is bad writing when TLJ is the wörst written film in a löng time. Have yöu read the Thrawn trilögy? It is öne öf the best EU boök series and I wöuld encöurage everyöne tö read it. After watching TLJ, I went and bought fresh copies.
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Post by Iakus on May 5, 2018 16:00:23 GMT
Not optimistic, but liked for the cute picture.
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Post by mybudgee on May 5, 2018 17:39:34 GMT
Wow. These fan films are getting insane
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Post by HK90210 on May 5, 2018 19:15:42 GMT
The fact that you label Star Wars as a bunch of "dumb movies" is pretty indicative of how you and I differ over this. They're only stories, that's true. But they still matter to a lot of us a heck of a lot more than they seem to matter to you. And that's ok. Folks can differ over how valuable a piece of entertainment is to them. But to say that bunch of 'dumb movies' shouldn't matter to someone enough that they should vote with their wallet seems a tad arrogant. As if you have a monopoly on how much a piece of entertainment should matter to a person. And you seem to be under the impression that boycotts are some kind of higher calling. Only for tree-huggers or religious fanatics fighting for some great cause. As if they're meant to bring about social/political/economic change. That's not the way I view them. To me, all they are meant for is to send a message in a form that a large company/corporation can understand. And just because Star Wars is a bunch of 'dumb movies' doesn't mean that Disney/Lucasfilm doesn't deserve to hear about it. I think you will be surprised at just how many won't see Episode IX, wither on principle or because they think it will be a terrible movie. Will it still make money? Sure. But it won't make the money Disney wanted it to. And that's all any boycott of that film should be attempting to do. Also, for the record, I DO think that Episode IX will be terrible. The foundation left by VII AND VIII doesn't really make for very good story. Fair enough. As I said, it makes it sound like it's some cause your fighting for. Like your fandom is at stake or something like that.
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Post by mybudgee on May 6, 2018 5:11:30 GMT
PLEASE Don't suck...
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2018 8:03:32 GMT
^ Everyone looks younger accept for Chewy lets fix that a little ( it's to bad that i cannot change the background though ). I had no idea Chewy had his own commercial and i agree he's worth it.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on May 6, 2018 8:18:45 GMT
Wow. These fan films are getting insane Some of them are done very well. This one is a bit longer and older, same scene. The 12.12.18 version will be something to see.
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This was a fun quiz. www.gamesradar.com/prove-youre-no-half-witted-scruffy-looking-nerf-herder-with-our-ultimate-star-wars-quiz-warning-its-hard-very-hard/Very pleased with 18/20...
On the other hand, you might want to send Disney the message that this sort of Star Wars is what you want to see and this discredit the TLJ approach to the franchise. Obviously depending on the quality of the film. This. The logic: 'I'm automatically boycotting x movie/game because I didn't like the studio's previous movie/game and that'll send a message'.Makes no sense in any galaxy, let alone one far, far away. It does not reward a studio for doing good things, deprives them of the money to change and is a 'message' impossible to interpret.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on May 6, 2018 11:07:19 GMT
The logic: 'I'm automatically boycotting x movie/game because I didn't like the studio's previous movie/game and that'll send a message'.Makes no sense in any galaxy, let alone one far, far away. It does not reward a studio for doing good things, deprives them of the money to change and is a 'message' impossible to interpret. It may not make sense for making a message that a corporation will hear. However, what you describe is exactly how people stop buying one brand and move to another. This is a product made to be consumed - I don't want to consume it anymore. My message is to individuals - stop buying their shit. That message is heard by individuals, who can make up their own minds. I get what you're saying, but it doesn't really work (or unwork) the way you say it does/doesn't. Logically, your post makes no sense TBF. If I didn't like a studio's product, why would I reward them financially anyway? Perhaps I don't want them to change, perhaps I want them to stop making crap products. Not rewarding them and not helping them change is now my fault? Hmmm....
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Post by SofaJockey on May 6, 2018 11:18:36 GMT
It may not make sense for making a message that a corporation will hear. However, what you describe is exactly how people stop buying one brand and move to another. This is a product made to be consumed - I don't want to consume it anymore. My message is to individuals - stop buying their shit. That message is heard by individuals, who can make up their own minds. I get what you're saying, but it doesn't really work (or unwork) the way you say it does/doesn't. Logically, your post makes no sense TBF. If I didn't like a studio's product, why would I reward them financially anyway? Perhaps I don't want them to change, perhaps I want them to stop making crap products. Not rewarding them and not helping them change is now my fault? Hmmm.... Yes, that's fair. People can do what they like. I think my main concern is the part of 'sending a message'. Sales are sales, there is no 'message' an individual sends. It also seems to me that it must be possible for a movie or game studio to go past a screw-up, or is a studio forever damned if there is a polarizing entry to a series? I love Star Wars, it is almost inconceivable that there would be grounds to make me walk away from it...
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on May 6, 2018 11:25:50 GMT
It may not make sense for making a message that a corporation will hear. However, what you describe is exactly how people stop buying one brand and move to another. This is a product made to be consumed - I don't want to consume it anymore. My message is to individuals - stop buying their shit. That message is heard by individuals, who can make up their own minds. I get what you're saying, but it doesn't really work (or unwork) the way you say it does/doesn't. Logically, your post makes no sense TBF. If I didn't like a studio's product, why would I reward them financially anyway? Perhaps I don't want them to change, perhaps I want them to stop making crap products. Not rewarding them and not helping them change is now my fault? Hmmm.... Yes, that's fair. People can do what they like. I think my main concern is the part of 'sending a message'. Sales are sales, there is no 'message' an individual sends. It also seems to me that it must be possible for a movie or game studio to go past a screw-up, or is a studio forever damned if there is a polarizing entry to a series? I love Star Wars, it is almost inconceivable that there would be grounds to make me walk away from it...Well, you'd have to be in the mood for forgiveness. I am the vindictive sort SJ, so I'm not good at that. The bolded line - yeah, that's a real pain I feel, it is a loss, and in grief I've become bitter. I have been a SW fanatic for so long, there is an empty spot. Thus, I continue to write. Edit: if the old BSN wasn't primarily a modding resource for me before Mass Effect was a thing, I would never have known any of you. I came for KotOR modding knowledge
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Post by Iakus on May 6, 2018 21:15:41 GMT
It may not make sense for making a message that a corporation will hear. However, what you describe is exactly how people stop buying one brand and move to another. This is a product made to be consumed - I don't want to consume it anymore. My message is to individuals - stop buying their shit. That message is heard by individuals, who can make up their own minds. I get what you're saying, but it doesn't really work (or unwork) the way you say it does/doesn't. Logically, your post makes no sense TBF. If I didn't like a studio's product, why would I reward them financially anyway? Perhaps I don't want them to change, perhaps I want them to stop making crap products. Not rewarding them and not helping them change is now my fault? Hmmm.... Yes, that's fair. People can do what they like. I think my main concern is the part of 'sending a message'. Sales are sales, there is no 'message' an individual sends. It also seems to me that it must be possible for a movie or game studio to go past a screw-up, or is a studio forever damned if there is a polarizing entry to a series?
I love Star Wars, it is almost inconceivable that there would be grounds to make me walk away from it... Depends on which pole you're on I guess.
I didn't think anything could make me walk away from future Star Wars entries. But here we are, Disney found a way.
I admit the Solo trailers look entertaining. But I'm just not feeling it anymore.
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Post by SofaJockey on May 6, 2018 21:32:35 GMT
I admit the Solo trailers look entertaining. But I'm just not feeling it anymore. My interest in Solo has risen from meh to high, over time. I'll happily see Episode IX to have it all tied together.
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