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Post by aoibhealfae on May 23, 2018 21:17:21 GMT
Do you think people in the 70s doesn't have social issues of its own to fight for? Do people really think SJW only rest on representation of women and colored people? Did Star Trek TOS solved American racism simply for hiring a barely handful colored people?
Star Wars trilogy was an allegory over fascism and protest against Vietnam War. There's a reason why Lucas love Akira Kurosawa so much who is known to make antiwar movies. Darth Vader was inspired by Samurai with a friggin laser sword... because you know Pearl Harbor and WW2 happened where Imperial Japan rape and behead people all across the pacific. ROTJ having a redemption arc for the inspired-villain to remember his good-honorable roots while forgetting about the victims is totally legit based on true story. There's a reason why Japan have an anti-war hard-on in most of its entertainment from Godzila to Gundam after being nuked because they're trying to erase fact that they already massacred millions just decades earlier. Not surprisingly that First Order exist because killing the bad guys doesn't kill off the oppressive system that still brought suffering in others.. which also based on the true story. That's the entirety of modern asian history.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 23, 2018 22:07:36 GMT
With Lando being confirmed as pansexual, that makes him the first official LGBT+ character in the Star Wars movies doesn't it?
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Post by colfoley on May 23, 2018 22:10:51 GMT
With Lando being confirmed as pansexual, that makes him the first official LGBT+ character in the Star Wars movies doesn't it? I believe so.
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Post by BamBam the Destroyer on May 23, 2018 22:12:00 GMT
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Post by BamBam the Destroyer on May 23, 2018 22:12:28 GMT
With Lando being confirmed as pansexual, that makes him the first official LGBT+ character in the Star Wars movies doesn't it? Let's hope they don't give him the Tico treatment.
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Post by SofaJockey on May 24, 2018 11:09:07 GMT
I remember the discussions in the news about Leia back in 1977 at the original film's launch.
It was noteworthy that she was standing up for 'women's lib' and not waiting to be rescued (oh hang on...), or at least that she was kicking ass after being rescued.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 11:27:32 GMT
Having pölitical themes is different than a pölitical agenda.
Leia was a ströng female character but it wasnt at the expense öf her male cöunterparts.
The störy wasn’t comprömised för pölitical agenda either.
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Post by CrutchCricket on May 24, 2018 13:23:34 GMT
Do you think people in the 70s doesn't have social issues of its own to fight for? Do people really think SJW only rest on representation of women and colored people? Did Star Trek TOS solved American racism simply for hiring a barely handful colored people? Star Wars trilogy was an allegory over fascism and protest against Vietnam War. There's a reason why Lucas love Akira Kurosawa so much who is known to make antiwar movies. Darth Vader was inspired by Samurai with a friggin laser sword... because you know Pearl Harbor and WW2 happened where Imperial Japan rape and behead people all across the pacific. ROTJ having a redemption arc for the inspired-villain to remember his good-honorable roots while forgetting about the victims is totally legit based on true story. There's a reason why Japan have an anti-war hard-on in most of its entertainment from Godzila to Gundam after being nuked because they're trying to erase fact that they already massacred millions just decades earlier. Not surprisingly that First Order exist because killing the bad guys doesn't kill off the oppressive system that still brought suffering in others.. which also based on the true story. That's the entirety of modern asian history. lolno The only confirmed Vietnam parallels are the primitive Ewoks defeating stormtroopers in Jedi and that's more of an anti-technology bend than a political one. The only real political stance of the movie is democracy yay, fascism bad (though notably in both trilogies fuck all is said to address teh shortcomings of democracy vis a vis the corrupt Republic). The Empire's fascism was Nazi-inspired, obviously and if saying Nazis are bad is "SJW" then saying water is wet makes me a goddamn chemist. Your take on post-WW2 Japanese sentiment may be on point but I fail to see what it has to do with Star Wars beyond Lucas being a fan of Kurosawa and samurai, and essentially starting the seed of Star Wars with basically a rip off of The Hidden Fortress. Which by the way, he has more success in cloning twenty years later with the Phantom Menace. Was Vietnam/postWW2Japan as relevant in the 90s? Didn't think so. As others have mentioned, you can have themes, references and resonance with RL events, ideas and politics in a work of fiction, without sacrificing it into a sanctimonious sermon of your views on the topics.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 13:58:32 GMT
Höw many peöple are actually göing tö see Solö this weekend, ör at all in the theater? I dön't plan ön ever watching it myself.
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Post by Andrew Waples on May 24, 2018 14:04:31 GMT
Höw many peöple are actually göing tö see Solö this weekend, ör at all in the theater? I dön't plan ön ever watching it myself. I am. Friday afternoon.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 14:27:10 GMT
Höw many peöple are actually göing tö see Solö this weekend, ör at all in the theater? I dön't plan ön ever watching it myself. Might not be able to. My weekend is packed. Thankfully I have you all to help me gauge whether or not I should go out of my way to see it
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Post by Iakus on May 24, 2018 14:29:17 GMT
Höw many peöple are actually göing tö see Solö this weekend, ör at all in the theater? I dön't plan ön ever watching it myself. I don't either. I may take my mother to see it if she really wants to (she doesn't like to see movies alone). But she hasn't been thrilled with the sequel trilogy either.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 24, 2018 15:15:51 GMT
Höw many peöple are actually göing tö see Solö this weekend, ör at all in the theater? I dön't plan ön ever watching it myself. I'll eventually see it, but probably not in theaters at all. Going to a movie opening weekend requires top tier interest, like the MCU films or the main trilogy installments, and with Solo being a character that I was never truly intrigued with either way, then it's really a non-starter. I do regret not seeing Rogue One in theaters though. It's so beautifully shot (I will fight everyone and their grandmothers to the death over this film).
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 15:44:26 GMT
Why feed this well of garbage money? See that shit online.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 24, 2018 15:47:39 GMT
Why feed this well of garbage money? See that shit online. Online where though? Illegitimate streaming sites that don't deal in anime all seem to suck balls. I guess there's Netflix, but that'll be a while.
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Post by Andrew Waples on May 24, 2018 17:09:51 GMT
Why feed this well of garbage money? See that shit online. I'd rather not see a movie then support that shit.
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Post by mybudgee on May 24, 2018 17:44:29 GMT
Do you think people in the 70s doesn't have social issues of its own to fight for? Do people really think SJW only rest on representation of women and colored people? Did Star Trek TOS solved American racism simply for hiring a barely handful colored people? Star Wars trilogy was an allegory over fascism and protest against Vietnam War. There's a reason why Lucas love Akira Kurosawa so much who is known to make antiwar movies. Darth Vader was inspired by Samurai with a friggin laser sword... because you know Pearl Harbor and WW2 happened where Imperial Japan rape and behead people all across the pacific. ROTJ having a redemption arc for the inspired-villain to remember his good-honorable roots while forgetting about the victims is totally legit based on true story. There's a reason why Japan have an anti-war hard-on in most of its entertainment from Godzila to Gundam after being nuked because they're trying to erase fact that they already massacred millions just decades earlier. Not surprisingly that First Order exist because killing the bad guys doesn't kill off the oppressive system that still brought suffering in others.. which also based on the true story. That's the entirety of modern asian history.
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Post by mybudgee on May 24, 2018 17:46:04 GMT
Höw many peöple are actually göing tö see Solö this weekend, ör at all in the theater? I dön't plan ön ever watching it myself. I am. Friday afternoon. I am also PROBABLY going late Friday
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 17:58:12 GMT
WTF is göing ön here? Why are the guards running away? Tö give her time tö save Emö Ren?
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on May 24, 2018 18:01:49 GMT
Höw many peöple are actually göing tö see Solö this weekend, ör at all in the theater? I dön't plan ön ever watching it myself. I don't either. I may take my mother to see it if she really wants to (she doesn't like to see movies alone). But she hasn't been thrilled with the sequel trilogy either. I'll probably watch the 720p version, several months later.
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Post by Terminator Force on May 24, 2018 18:16:37 GMT
(Beware, he kinda unintentionally drops a hint to a possible spoiler from what I put together)
Wow, this is a channel I follow for gaming & gaming nostalgia. And the one time he let me down is liking the other Disney Wars, so I don't know what this means. One interesting thing mentioned is that it doesn't feel like a big budget blockbuster, more like a Netflix exclusive movie... that's definitely not the Star Wars MO.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 18:21:21 GMT
Why feed this well of garbage money? See that shit online. Online where though? Illegitimate streaming sites that don't deal in anime all seem to suck balls. I guess there's Netflix, but that'll be a while. Sometimes, when you put things in lockers, 123 movies will take up space. Usually just cam footage at this juncture though.
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Post by colfoley on May 24, 2018 18:21:23 GMT
Höw many peöple are actually göing tö see Solö this weekend, ör at all in the theater? I dön't plan ön ever watching it myself. I'll eventually see it, but probably not in theaters at all. Going to a movie opening weekend requires top tier interest, like the MCU films or the main trilogy installments, and with Solo being a character that I was never truly intrigued with either way, then it's really a non-starter. I do regret not seeing Rogue One in theaters though. It's so beautifully shot (I will fight everyone and their grandmothers to the death over this film). It had its issues but yes, it was beautifully shot.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 18:24:27 GMT
I do regret not seeing Rogue One in theaters though. It was great. The Vader scene at the end was glorious in the theater. Probably one of my more favorite movie experiences I've had.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 24, 2018 18:31:12 GMT
I do regret not seeing Rogue One in theaters though. It was great. The Vader scene at the end was glorious in the theater. Probably one of my more favorite movie experiences I've had. And I think that Disney struck gold getting Michael Giacchino to do scoring for a lot of their films. The final tracks of the film Your Father Would Be Proud and Hope are probably some of the best in the saga for me. Giacchino really nailed the tone of Vader's big entrance with his score. I would even go so far as to say that I would not balk at him replacing Williams entirely for the next saga.
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