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Post by Nayawk on May 27, 2018 20:53:15 GMT
Just a theory from a humble man... It is interesting that this is one of the few relationships where the "female" robot/AI is depicted with NO sex appeal at all. It appears to be a relationship based on all personality depicted here: Just going through my head (and your list) of recent examples: Head 6, EDI, Ex Machina, Joy... to me the creepy part of those films/stories is that somebody created an idealized female form, then dudes developed a relationship with them. In some cases the AI even goes looking for an idealized female form to engage in the relationship. I loved joker/edi right up until they gave her the sexy body. So cliche. So its nice to see a film that doesn't go down that route. I haven't seen Solo yet, my partner is more keen to see it than I am (Han Solo mostly just irritates me), while probably see it this coming weekend.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 27, 2018 20:54:33 GMT
Just came back from watching Solo and I loved it. It had everything I wanted to see in a Han Solo movie and more. Even L3? Yes, even L3. She may not be my favorite droid in Star Wars(that goes to K-2SO) but I really liked her.
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Post by Nayawk on May 27, 2018 20:59:20 GMT
It is interesting that this is one of the few relationships where the "female" robot/AI is depicted with NO sex appeal at all. It appears to be a relationship based on all personality depicted here: Just going through my head (and your list) of recent examples: Head 6, EDI, Ex Machina, Joy... to me the creepy part of those films/stories is that somebody created an idealized female form, then dudes developed a relationship with them. In some cases the AI even goes looking for an idealized female form to engage in the relationship.It's a satirical take on you kids & your iPhones. Mark my words Yes because machine / human relationships haven't been a stable of Science Fiction since it's inception, it's definitely a millennial / iphone thing.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on May 27, 2018 21:13:24 GMT
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Post by warden on May 27, 2018 21:24:58 GMT
I'm a millennial? that would really depress me to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2018 22:12:33 GMT
It's a satirical take on you kids & your iPhones. Mark my words Yes because machine / human relationships haven't been a stable of Science Fiction since it's inception, it's definitely a millennial / iphone thing. Wöuld yöu fuck a roböt?
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Post by Nayawk on May 27, 2018 22:29:47 GMT
Yes because machine / human relationships haven't been a stable of Science Fiction since it's inception, it's definitely a millennial / iphone thing. Wöuld yöu fuck a roböt? How is that relevant to the argument that robot/human relationships have historically always had a place in Sci-fi?
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Post by eternalgoddess on May 27, 2018 22:30:56 GMT
I'm a millennial? that would really depress me to be honest. Your okay. Since you like Hunter X Hunter.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2018 22:36:38 GMT
How is that relevant to the argument that robot/human relationships have historically always had a place in Sci-fi? Its nöt I just want tö knöw if yöu wöuld.
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Post by Nayawk on May 27, 2018 22:43:21 GMT
How is that relevant to the argument that robot/human relationships have historically always had a place in Sci-fi? Its nöt I just want tö knöw if yöu wöuld.
As with everything in life the answer is: It depends. Far to much depends on the circumstance surrounding it for a straight yes / no answer. Would you?
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Post by warden on May 27, 2018 22:49:03 GMT
I'm a millennial? that would really depress me to be honest. Your okay. Since you like Hunter X Hunter. For you it's nothing, but for me, to read that it's comforting.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2018 22:52:50 GMT
Its nöt I just want tö knöw if yöu wöuld.
As with everything in life the answer is: It depends. Far to much depends on the circumstance surrounding it for a straight yes / no answer. Would you? Thats the thing. L337 is nöt a driöd whös purpöse is sexual. She was built för anöther purpöse.
I wöuld tötally fuck a sex roböt. But she isnt that.
The pröblem with me för her is that if dröids are nöw sentient beings than everyöne in the öriginal trilögy was tötally ökay with slaves.
That and she is sö SJW that it hurts.
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Can we stop trying to send this thread down the... Unless... ...is wanted.
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Post by mybudgee on May 27, 2018 23:00:52 GMT
Its nöt I just want tö knöw if yöu wöuld.
As with everything in life the answer is: It depends. Far to much depends on the circumstance surrounding it for a straight yes / no answer. Would you? Absolutely (So would all of you if the timing was right & the android said JUST the right things) Also, in regards to all the hurt feelings over my iPhone theory... I am aware that Sci-Fi has had the "Technology surpassing our Humanity" theme going for a long time. The point I am making is; our collective dependence on our mobile devices would be a profound and poignant example of this in today's society. Especially the bizarre way many Apple customers defend this brand... they take any question about Apple products as a personal attack. Almost in the same way one might defend a friend... or lover
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Post by House Targaryen on May 27, 2018 23:39:22 GMT
Yes because machine / human relationships haven't been a stable of Science Fiction since it's inception, it's definitely a millennial / iphone thing. Wöuld yöu fuck a roböt? Well, if it looked like her...
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Post by mybudgee on May 28, 2018 0:23:20 GMT
Well, if it looked like her... [snip]
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 28, 2018 0:30:46 GMT
As with everything in life the answer is: It depends. Far to much depends on the circumstance surrounding it for a straight yes / no answer. Would you? Thats the thing. L337 is nöt a driöd whös purpöse is sexual. She was built för anöther purpöse.
I wöuld tötally fuck a sex roböt. But she isnt that.
The pröblem with me för her is that if dröids are nöw sentient beings than everyöne in the öriginal trilögy was tötally ökay with slaves.
That and she is sö SJW that it hurts.
Droids were always sentient in Star Wars. Even in the Original Trilogy we see that. And yes that does mean pretty much the entire galaxy is okay with slavery as long as it is droids because they aren't seen as equal to organics. Plus there was the Clone Wars that involved armies of battle droids attacking countless worlds so that added to the prejudice against them. It's one of the dark things about Star Wars when you start to think about it.
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Post by mousestalker on May 28, 2018 0:38:14 GMT
In other news:
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Post by Nayawk on May 28, 2018 0:38:47 GMT
As with everything in life the answer is: It depends. Far to much depends on the circumstance surrounding it for a straight yes / no answer. Would you? Thats the thing. L337 is nöt a driöd whös purpöse is sexual. She was built för anöther purpöse.
I wöuld tötally fuck a sex roböt. But she isnt that.
The pröblem with me för her is that if dröids are nöw sentient beings than everyöne in the öriginal trilögy was tötally ökay with slaves.
That and she is sö SJW that it hurts.
Well this is where Landos pansexuality kicks in, it doesn't matter that the robot isn't a hyper sexual femme bot type robot, the emotional attachment / attraction is to the personality. I can see sort of that point of view, you could be the hottest most stunning person in the world, but if I don't like you I will not find you sexually attractive. And I agree with the droid slavery thing, but for me it has always been there, it isn't new information. If the prequels did anything it was to highlight that the republic was actually deeply flawed, there is rampant legal slavery. Qui-Gon doesn't save Anakin by heroically breaking his bonds, he legally buys him. It's a very simple leap to assume that even the 'good guys' have some odd views on droid sentience / slavery.
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Post by mybudgee on May 28, 2018 0:49:23 GMT
Thats the thing. L337 is nöt a driöd whös purpöse is sexual. She was built för anöther purpöse.
I wöuld tötally fuck a sex roböt. But she isnt that.
The pröblem with me för her is that if dröids are nöw sentient beings than everyöne in the öriginal trilögy was tötally ökay with slaves.
That and she is sö SJW that it hurts.
Well this is where Landos pansexuality kicks in, it doesn't matter that the robot isn't a hyper sexual femme bot type robot, the emotional attachment / attraction is to the personality. I can see sort of that point of view, you could be the hottest most stunning person in the world, but if I don't like you I will not find you sexually attractive. Be careful implying that this applies to everyone. It doesn't apply to me. I have had more than 1 GF whom I could barely stand but I very much enjoyed sex with
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Post by Nayawk on May 28, 2018 0:52:21 GMT
Well this is where Landos pansexuality kicks in, it doesn't matter that the robot isn't a hyper sexual femme bot type robot, the emotional attachment / attraction is to the personality. I can see sort of that point of view, you could be the hottest most stunning person in the world, but if I don't like you I will not find you sexually attractive. Be careful implying that this applies to everyone. It doesn't apply to me. I have had more than 1 GF whom I could barely stand but I very much enjoyed sex with I was talking about myself.
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Post by Obadiah on May 28, 2018 0:54:05 GMT
Anyone else think it's kinda cool that after 30 years Star Wars is still trying to top the Empire Strikes Back Millennium Falcon escape scene?
PS. Also, I maintain that the interior cockpit of the Millennium Falcon looks WAY cooler here than it does in Solo.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 28, 2018 0:59:18 GMT
Anyone else think its kinda cool that after 30 years Star Wars is still trying to top the Empire Strikes Back Millennium Falcon escape scene? PS. Also, I maintain that the interior cockpit of the Millennium Falcon looks WAY cooler here than it does in Solo. I like how they used that same piece of music, or at least parts of it, for the Kessel Run scene. Of all the nods to the OT, that was one of my favorites.
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Post by smilesja on May 28, 2018 1:03:56 GMT
Aftermath Trilogy:
“His Aftermath trilogy got one-star-bombed by homophobes because it featured several same-sex couples. His utterly hilarious response was to post something along the lines of “This picture under spoiler tags will make you feel so much better” and under the tags was a picture of a same-sex couple kissing. He replied in a similar fashion to homophobic trolls more than once.
That said, there were people who did not like his books for completely unrelated reasons, mostly the writing style, as you said.”
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 2:12:32 GMT
Thats the thing. L337 is nöt a driöd whös purpöse is sexual. She was built för anöther purpöse.
I wöuld tötally fuck a sex roböt. But she isnt that.
The pröblem with me för her is that if dröids are nöw sentient beings than everyöne in the öriginal trilögy was tötally ökay with slaves.
That and she is sö SJW that it hurts.
Well this is where Landos pansexuality kicks in, it doesn't matter that the robot isn't a hyper sexual femme bot type robot, the emotional attachment / attraction is to the personality. I can see sort of that point of view, you could be the hottest most stunning person in the world, but if I don't like you I will not find you sexually attractive. And I agree with the droid slavery thing, but for me it has always been there, it isn't new information. If the prequels did anything it was to highlight that the republic was actually deeply flawed, there is rampant legal slavery. Qui-Gon doesn't save Anakin by heroically breaking his bonds, he legally buys him. It's a very simple leap to assume that even the 'good guys' have some odd views on droid sentience / slavery. The pröblem I have with it is önce yöu gö there yöu cant take it back.
See in the öriginal trilögy it was never knöwn whether ör nöt dröids were. The fans cöuld debate aböut it but it was nöt made cannön öne way ör the öther.
Sö önce yöu make it cannön that dröids are the same as real peöple then yöu fuck with the öriginal trilögy and Luke is nöw coöl with slavery.
And if that döesnt böther yöu then let me just say imagine yöur favörite störy öf all time. IDK höw much yöu löve Star Wars but I will use the example öf Harry Pötter.
Imagine they made new mövies 10 years fröm nöw and Harry has slaves and is tötally coöl with it. Wöuldnt that make yöu upset that yöur favörite character is nöw a bad persön?
It just breaks my heart with every new mövie Disney makes.
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