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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jun 7, 2018 21:30:29 GMT
This is NOT a politics thread. Hate KK all you want, but discuss STAR WARS. Go to the POLITICAL THREAD if you want to talk about 3rd wave feminism and all that shit. Hi. Kathleen Kennedy, pretty sure she had heavy involvement in the new shit movies you love. Seems like the reason most people don't like the movies is the direction she took them in, at least partly due to her politics and need to put them on screen. It is absolutely on topic, and you are butthurt about it because it causes problems with your inexperienced and warped worldview. Complain like this again and I will report you - I am serious. Edit: the idea that 1) I would report someone for an opinion is funny, thought that would be obvious but perhaps the "I'm serious" part was taking it too far :| 2) the idea that a moderator would listen to my take on the situation - and me not be the one in trouble when it's all over, or just laughed at and ignored - is actually funnier
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Post by Heimdall on Jun 7, 2018 21:30:41 GMT
Hi. Kathleen Kennedy, pretty sure she had heavy involvement in the new shit movies you love. Seems like the reason most people don't like the movies is the direction she took them in, at least partly due to her politics and need to put them on screen. It is absolutely on topic, and you are butthurt about it because it causes problems with your inexperienced and warped worldview. Complain like this again and I will report you - I am serious. *cough* I guess its not popular on this thread to think Luke and Han were handled just fine? I’m fine with Han. I have some issues with how Luke was handled, but not as much as some in this thread. My only real problem with him is that rather than try to fix his problem with Ben he ran away and gave up on everything. That doesn’t quite jive with him being the guy who saw good in Darth Vader of all people.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 7, 2018 22:59:03 GMT
2) the idea that a moderator would listen to my take on the situation - and me not be the one in trouble when it's all over, or just laughed at and ignored - is actually funnier I could ask BioWareMod02 to help out if you want something stricter...
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jun 8, 2018 1:50:40 GMT
2) the idea that a moderator would listen to my take on the situation - and me not be the one in trouble when it's all over, or just laughed at and ignored - is actually funnier I could ask BioWareMod02 to help out if you want something stricter... I was not complaining, really it was an attempt at some self-deprecating humor. I'm not exactly a model citizen, yet y'all tolerate me quite gracefully.
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Post by mybudgee on Jun 8, 2018 7:30:17 GMT
Hi. Kathleen Kennedy, pretty sure she had heavy involvement in the new shit movies you love. Seems like the reason most people don't like the movies is the direction she took them in, because of her politics. It is absolutely on topic, and you are butthurt about it because it causes problems with your inexperienced and warped worldview. Complain like this again and I will report you - I am serious. lol, I'm butthurt?🤣 All of you youngsters seem to be, yes www.intellectualtakeout.org/blog/why-are-so-many-millennials-emotionally-fragile
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jun 8, 2018 8:01:34 GMT
If anything you and your pals are the butthurt ones. You and your pals have been bitching about Star Wars for months in this thread. Don't you think it's time to let go?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 8:05:20 GMT
If anything you and your pals are the butthurt ones. You and your pals have been bitching about Star Wars for months in this thread. Don't you think it's time to let go? It's just as bad as the prequels... The hate is, I mean.
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Post by river82 on Jun 8, 2018 8:38:54 GMT
Saw that and the plot is shithouse. I hope it's fake because the butthurt that plot would generate would dwarf the butthurt over The Last Jedi.
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Post by mybudgee on Jun 8, 2018 8:44:42 GMT
If anything you and your pals are the butthurt ones. You and your pals have been bitching about Star Wars for months in this thread. Don't you think it's time to let go? But seriously, I will NEVER let this go. Not ever. I love these stupid goddamn movies. It is an affection so deeply ingrained in my psyche that parts of my personality have been consciously emulating Luke Skywalker in some form or another. The classic trilogy was the cinematic bible to me from about age 7 to today give or take a year. The prequels were simply a vision of the old Republic that was Lucas' ultimate hubris and ego, his power-fantasy come to life. He did achieve what he intended. They are flawed and even unwatchable in sections, but I love them too. Is it really that much to ask that this IP, this entire universe be treated with a shred of... INTEGRITY? Reverence even??! Instead of
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jun 8, 2018 8:48:10 GMT
If anything you and your pals are the butthurt ones. You and your pals have been bitching about Star Wars for months in this thread. Don't you think it's time to let go? But seriously, I will NEVER let this go. Not ever. I love these stupid goddamn movies. It is an affection so deeply ingrained in my psyche that parts of my personality have been consciously emulating Luke Skywalker in some form or another. The classic trilogy was the cinematic bible to me from about age 7 to today give or take a year. The prequels were simply a vision of the old Republic that was Lucas' ultimate hubris and ego, his power-fantasy come to life. He did achieve what he intended. They are flawed and even unwatchable in sections, but I love them too. Is it really that much to ask that this IP, this entire universe be treated with a shred of... INTEGRITY? Reverence even??! Instead of And I'm the butthurt one. You've proved my point without even realizing it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 12:12:25 GMT
If anything you and your pals are the butthurt ones. You and your pals have been bitching about Star Wars for months in this thread. Don't you think it's time to let go? If yöu want tö use butthurt, fine. I wöuld use söul crushing. Imagine being happily married för 40 years. Having kids. Being cömpletely and tötally in love. Sure there was a röugh patch aböut 20 years agö but you göt thröugh it and made it öut still in love. Then yöu find öut that nöt only is she is cheating ön yöu, but yöur kids aren't yöur kids, her name isn't even the real öne and she is a Russian spy here tö deströy America. She is a traitör tö yöur cöuntry and yöur whöle way öf life. While being the öne yöu were in löve with for 40 years. Nöw cöuld yöu just let that gö after a few mönths? Just möve ön with yöur life?
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Post by Nayawk on Jun 8, 2018 12:40:21 GMT
If anything you and your pals are the butthurt ones. You and your pals have been bitching about Star Wars for months in this thread. Don't you think it's time to let go? If yöu want tö use butthurt, fine. I wöuld use söul crushing. Imagine being happily married för 40 years. Having kids. Being cömpletely and tötally in love. Sure there was a röugh patch aböut 20 years agö but you göt thröugh it and made it öut still in love. Then yöu find öut that nöt only is she is cheating ön yöu, but yöur kids aren't yöur kids, her name isn't even the real öne and she is a Russian spy here tö deströy American. She is a traitör tö yöur cöuntry and yöur whöle way öf life. While being the öne yöu were in löve with for 40 years. Nöw cöuld yöu just let that gö after a few mönths? Just möve ön with yöur life? See that just makes you sound unstable. That reaction to what in the end is a stupid popcorn movie is not at all healthy. I'm going to assume you are being hyperbolic for effect.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 12:46:56 GMT
If yöu want tö use butthurt, fine. I wöuld use söul crushing. Imagine being happily married för 40 years. Having kids. Being cömpletely and tötally in love. Sure there was a röugh patch aböut 20 years agö but you göt thröugh it and made it öut still in love. Then yöu find öut that nöt only is she is cheating ön yöu, but yöur kids aren't yöur kids, her name isn't even the real öne and she is a Russian spy here tö deströy American. She is a traitör tö yöur cöuntry and yöur whöle way öf life. While being the öne yöu were in löve with for 40 years. Nöw cöuld yöu just let that gö after a few mönths? Just möve ön with yöur life? See that just makes you sound unstable. That reaction to what in the end is a stupid popcorn movie is not at all healthy. I'm going to assume you are being hyperbolic for effect. Yöu are talking tö a guy who puts umlauts aböve all his ö's in tribute tö a band he cant stöp talking aböut. And I think the pröblem is I dön't see them as stupid mövies. They mean möre tö me than any mövie ever did ör ever will.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jun 8, 2018 13:02:44 GMT
See that just makes you sound unstable. That reaction to what in the end is a stupid popcorn movie is not at all healthy. I'm going to assume you are being hyperbolic for effect. Yöu are talking tö a guy who puts umlauts aböve all his ö's in tribute tö a band he cant stöp talking aböut. And I think the pröblem is I dön't see them as stupid mövies. They mean möre tö me than any mövie ever did ör ever will. "Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose."
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Post by CrutchCricket on Jun 8, 2018 13:38:21 GMT
See that just makes you sound unstable. That reaction to what in the end is a stupid popcorn movie is not at all healthy. I'm going to assume you are being hyperbolic for effect. Yöu are talking tö a guy who puts umlauts aböve all his ö's in tribute tö a band he cant stöp talking aböut. And I think the pröblem is I dön't see them as stupid mövies. They mean möre tö me than any mövie ever did ör ever will. You can ignore Mickey Wars. I know it seems impossible when you're in the middle of it. I've been there. But trust me, it can be done. And if that's possible who know what else may be? Disney may run Mickey Wars into the ground yet. The death of a franchise isn't the end of one's enjoyment of it. Ideally it should be a clean death, as opposed to lingering bastardization. That's probably the biggest tragedy- trying to talk about Star Wars from now on when what will be on people's minds is Mickey Wars. But I suspect even that will be possible, you'll just need to find the right people for it. And even if you don't, there are other things. There's nothing else quite like Star Wars, but in terms of what sparks my imagination and what I want more of these days? Star Wars isn't really among them.
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Post by Treacherous J Slither on Jun 8, 2018 14:05:05 GMT
I think Star Wars needs a soft reboot. Set it waaaay into the future and change the dated aesthetic into something far more stylish and visually appealing. Enough with the text scroll, shitty music, nazi allegory etc.
And better casting too. I mean, Adam Driver? Come on smh
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Post by HK90210 on Jun 8, 2018 14:30:40 GMT
Yöu are talking tö a guy who puts umlauts aböve all his ö's in tribute tö a band he cant stöp talking aböut. And I think the pröblem is I dön't see them as stupid mövies. They mean möre tö me than any mövie ever did ör ever will. "Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose." Great, now Snaggletooth is going to go kill a bunch of younglings. Thanks a bunch, Bad-Advice Yoda.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jun 8, 2018 14:37:24 GMT
"Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose." Great, now Snaggletooth is going to go kill a bunch of younglings. Thanks a bunch, Bad-Advice Yoda. Worth a shot.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 14:37:36 GMT
"Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose." Great, now Snaggletooth is going to go kill a bunch of younglings. Thanks a bunch, Bad-Advice Yoda.
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Post by Obadiah on Jun 8, 2018 14:40:39 GMT
*cough* I guess its not popular on this thread to think Luke and Han were handled just fine? I’m fine with Han. I have some issues with how Luke was handled, but not as much as some in this thread. My only real problem with him is that rather than try to fix his problem with Ben he ran away and gave up on everything. That doesn’t quite jive with him being the guy who saw good in Darth Vader of all people. Luke's arc is not exactly a pleasant one. The Academy incident happened about 15 years(?) maybe after the Return of the Jedi, so there was probably a fair amount of character development in that time. From The Last Jedi it looks like he had a chance to "see" how corrupt Ben was, and saw something darker and worse that what he had seen in Vader; hard to believe but I saw Kylo Ren as Darth Vader without the Jedi trained discipline. Additionally, as he explained, those events led him to believe that his mere presence as a representation of the legendary Jedi order of the Republic and the defeat of the Empire, a savior figure that could do no wrong, was detrimental the galactic community moving past the failures of the Republic and the Imperial regime. That's a hard position to be in, but also sort of plays into his optimism that the New Republic doesn't need him to flourish and defeat the First Order. That's my interpretation, but the point is, I thought Luke's exile was an affirmative effort to help the New Republic by a character that had become just a little more jaded with experience since Return of the Jedi. Obviously, his good friend Han Solo's personality had rubbed off on him. I don't know if Luke felt that Kylo could not be turned because he had killed his own father, or if, after Luke had opened himself to the Force, he sensed Kylo's further radicalization at Snoke's manipulation, and Rey's failure to bring Kylo back from the dark. By the end of The Last Jedi, with Kylo having also killed (his formed friend? played by Max Von Sydow) Lor San Tekka, tried to kill Leia with Starkiller base, and killed Snoke - remember this is all in the insane week from beginning of TFA to then end of TLJ - I think Luke could have come to a legitimate conclusion that, ok, Ben's gone, and I can't bring him back.
I thought Luke's confrontation with Kylo Ren at the climax of The Last Jedi was pretty awesome. If Luke was going to die, a lone last stand against a resurgent Imperial army using Force powers isn't a bad way to go. Just as a set piece, I thought that whole sequence of Luke's stand against The First Order was pretty spectacular.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jun 8, 2018 15:02:24 GMT
If anything you and your pals are the butthurt ones. You and your pals have been bitching about Star Wars for months in this thread. Don't you think it's time to let go? Only butthurt folk are ones hitting the report button as if it's soothing butthurt cream.
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Post by Obadiah on Jun 8, 2018 15:09:57 GMT
I guess I'll bring up my main complaint about The Last Jedi. The general story of Poe and Finn appears to be something of a personal journey of character growth, where they fail in some plan, realize the error of their ways, and so have some character development into better, stronger, more responsible people. The problem is that they do it by directly disobeying competent authority in Admiral Holdo, that is admittedly not likeable, and their scheme results in the First Order learning of the evacuation, and the death of a lot of rebels. Star Wars has usually had likeable good-natured characters engage in hair brain schemes that work out EVENTUALLY (Let's free the princess! "Chewie, set to 271" - leads to - the Death Star finds Rebel Base, Han gets captured). In this case, at the VERY least, when others learn of what Poe and Finn have done, this would result in their complete marginalization. But in wartime situations, that kind of misbehavior would result in summary execution. As a story about character growth, it is absurd. This would really be a story about why the last of the Resistance executed the heroes that destroyed Starkiller base. By the way, the "fix" for this is not to get rid of Holdo, it is to... ..show that Poe was working with some level of authority - maybe that he had buy in from other commanders that didn't agree with Holdo, or because of his recent demotion from Commander to Captain show that he was still a recognized leader. Alternatively, the movie could have other characters address/recognize Finn's and Poe's responsibility for the failure of the evacuation some other way, rather than sort of implicitly offload that responsibility all on DJ.
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