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Post by fiannawolf on Sept 29, 2018 23:32:51 GMT
Me? I've given up on newer star wars, barring some Zahn here and there, so mybudgee, your are officially my canary. When you collapse I'll know SW is officially 10 times dead. May you live on in a field of pizza.
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Post by Hier0phant on Sept 30, 2018 2:41:54 GMT
Can we discuss the fact that K. Kennedy will remain as Empress of Lucasfilm for the foreseeable future? First off, I wanna say that I'm trying VERY hard to be optimistic about it. In the light of the announcement from a week or so ago that Iger has commanded that production slow the hell down on ALL Star Wars flicks (other than Episode 9: Return of Idiocy), I feel a certain amount of relief. Not a huge feeling of relief, not enough to temper my feeling of betrayal & like I was bamboozled out of my hard-earned $ for seeing ep. 8... but I felt some confidence return. Does this news about the head of Lucasfilm staying on ruin my feeling of solace? No, because I hope that Iger is what he seems to be; an intelligent adult who knows that Lucasfilm is in somewhat of a tail-spin. I hope he can see that the current "Do whatever you want, as long as there's moronic SJW tropes shoe-horned into the 'plot' LoL" strategy is perhaps not the precedent anyone working with him wants. Not to mention the millions of old-school fans who feel as left out in the cold as I do. I am still a fan. I am not going to boycott Lucasfilm... yet Call it morbid curiousity and or sadism but seeing how far the franchise could sink has piqued my interests.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 30, 2018 2:52:14 GMT
Can we discuss the fact that K. Kennedy will remain as Empress of Lucasfilm for the foreseeable future? First off, I wanna say that I'm trying VERY hard to be optimistic about it. In the light of the announcement from a week or so ago that Iger has commanded that production slow the hell down on ALL Star Wars flicks (other than Episode 9: Return of Idiocy), I feel a certain amount of relief. Not a huge feeling of relief, not enough to temper my feeling of betrayal & like I was bamboozled out of my hard-earned $ for seeing ep. 8... but I felt some confidence return. Does this news about the head of Lucasfilm staying on ruin my feeling of solace? No, because I hope that Iger is what he seems to be; an intelligent adult who knows that Lucasfilm is in somewhat of a tail-spin. I hope he can see that the current "Do whatever you want, as long as there's moronic SJW tropes shoe-horned into the 'plot' LoL" strategy is perhaps not the precedent anyone working with him wants. Not to mention the millions of old-school fans who feel as left out in the cold as I do. I am still a fan. I am not going to boycott Lucasfilm... yet Call it morbid curiousity and or sadism but seeing how far the franchise could sink has piqued my interests. It's like old Nascar. I am interested to see if anyone blows up.
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Post by Hier0phant on Sept 30, 2018 3:02:17 GMT
Call it morbid curiousity and or sadism but seeing how far the franchise could sink has piqued my interests. It's like old Nascar. I am interested to see if anyone blows up. Like watching a train derailment unfold in super slow motion while that old Nascar jumped a makeshift ramp and is headed for a collision course with the derailed train.
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Post by mybudgee on Sept 30, 2018 4:27:30 GMT
Me? I've given up on newer star wars, barring some Zahn here and there, so mybudgee, you are officially my canary???
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Sept 30, 2018 5:36:34 GMT
Me? I've given up on newer star wars, barring some Zahn here and there, so mybudgee, you are officially my canary??? Then what Ryan Johnson would do with the canary
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Post by Heimdall on Sept 30, 2018 11:36:42 GMT
Can we discuss the fact that K. Kennedy will remain as Empress of Lucasfilm for the foreseeable future? First off, I wanna say that I'm trying VERY hard to be optimistic about it. In the light of the announcement from a week or so ago that Iger has commanded that production slow the hell down on ALL Star Wars flicks (other than Episode 9: Return of Idiocy), I feel a certain amount of relief. Not a huge feeling of relief, not enough to temper my feeling of betrayal & like I was bamboozled out of my hard-earned $ for seeing ep. 8... but I felt some confidence return. Does this news about the head of Lucasfilm staying on ruin my feeling of solace? No, because I hope that Iger is what he seems to be; an intelligent adult who knows that Lucasfilm is in somewhat of a tail-spin. I hope he can see that the current "Do whatever you want, as long as there's moronic SJW tropes shoe-horned into the 'plot' LoL" strategy is perhaps not the precedent anyone working with him wants. Not to mention the millions of old-school fans who feel as left out in the cold as I do. I am still a fan. I am not going to boycott Lucasfilm... yet My guess is between the people loyal to her at Lucasfilm, the difficulty in finding a replacement, and the bad optics firing her would be spun with in the press, they decided it was easier to keep her on. I don’t think she’s going to be starting any projects without Iger’s say so though. He doesn’t seem at all impressed by her.
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 30, 2018 11:58:25 GMT
I think the bolded is a fairly safe assumption. You'd notice that the real backlash didn't start until after the disaster of TLJ, and with TLJ I at least feel that the vast majority of it was justified. It's a flaming pile of garbage as far as I'm concerned. In short, for a significant backlash you require a significant part of the audience behind it, something that you aren't going to get if there isn't a good reason. So in my view, comparing the the political bias of the "professionals" and the public at large is simply wrong, because the audience has (ironically) a diversity of opinions that the "professionals" tend to lack. As for Starship Troopers, those are great movies and anyone who says otherwise is wrong. Would You Like To Know More?... Not much to disagree with here. As I elucidated previously, I trust critic consensus more than audience consensus, but hardly consider it infalliable, and find that my own opinions generally fall somewhere in the middle of the two. Critics have the problem of often being too self righteous to understand why general audiences may have disliked something they rated highly. Meanwhile general audiences often have the problem of not even attempting to be critical from the perspective of art at all. I mean is there any other explanation for the massive success of shallow garbage like Titanic, Avatar, 50 Shades, Twilight or the Transformers films? oldie but good also yes Starship Troopers is actually the best SciFi film franchise of all time, and it too deserves to be ruined with horrible, hollywood machine produced cash grab sequel trilogies. As of now though all we can do is spread the good word The only films on that list you made that are universally panned by both critics and viewers are the Fifty shades movies. I can't stand Twilight or Fifty Shades but I like the others as do plenty others.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Sept 30, 2018 15:27:12 GMT
So, I got a chance to see the extended sneak peek for Star Wars Resistance and it's honestly okay at best. I really do like the animation and again, I am a sucker for the cell shaded look. That said, there was a big emphasis on jokes that feel more targetted towards kids that can range from a bit of a chuckle to cringe. I'm just going to wait until the show comes out and I see a few episodes of it. Maybe this is one of those shows kind of like Rebels where it seems kind of lame at first but as you watch more you grow to like it and the show could get better.
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Post by mybudgee on Sept 30, 2018 16:52:44 GMT
"I am GROOT!" "I know"
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Post by HK90210 on Sept 30, 2018 20:41:10 GMT
Well, speaking as someone who hates TLJ with the fiery passion of 1000 suns, I have rewatched Solo twice now. Honestly, that movie is pretty good. Solid 7/10. I would say better than Rogue One, as far as one-shot Star Wars movies go.
I'm of two minds about Solo. On the one hand, it's a decent movie. Not nearly as SJW as some people *cough* Geeks & Gamers, World Class Bullshitters, Ethan Van Skyver *cough* make it out to be, and tolerable acted/directed. So all things being equal, I'd like it to succeed.
But I'm glad that it failed, because it's a sign that the fandom is not as mindless and fickle as Lucasfilm seems to think it is. As much as some folks want to blame Star Wars Fatigue© for Solo's failing at the Box office, the root cause of it not at least making back its budget is only the blow-up over TLJ. Had that film not been as divisive, and Lucasfilm's reaction been more contrite and humble to the criticism(George Lucas, for all his flaws, never attacked his own fans over his blunders in the prequels), Solo would have made money. Instead, pissed off/apathetic fans took a stand.
It leaves me hopeful that Episode IX crashes and burns. I'm certain it will do better than Solo. But if it makes less than $1 billion, Disney will be unable to spin their failures in any other direction than their own mismanagement.
It's pretty much the franchise's last hope.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 2:36:54 GMT
Our Overlord once again implores you to pick up that phone... cause he fucking CALLEDIT! A sad situation indeed. Oh well, I still have my pre Disney Star Wars content and toys.
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Post by mybudgee on Oct 1, 2018 6:31:16 GMT
Very relevant
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Post by warden on Oct 1, 2018 12:50:40 GMT
The future doesn't look bright that's for sure.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 1, 2018 13:01:39 GMT
Mind you a photograph of a man's anus is considered art, but with franchise films i only gauge them by how consistent each succeeding film is to the first and preceding film. Consistencies like lore, plot, and characterization.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Oct 1, 2018 14:26:05 GMT
I'm still going to be cautiously optimistic about new Star Wars stuff coming out, but I agree that Kathleen Kennedy is not the right person to lead Lucasfilm. Rather than specifically ask for a Star Wars movie to fail, I'm instead asking that the executives at Disney have a much tighter grip on Kennedy and make absolutely sure she doesn't overdo anything. Seems like they're on the right track with Iger saying they'll stop releasing Star Wars movies every year.
Then again, remember the time Disney owned Power Rangers for a while? From what I remember, Disney's Power Ranger shows like DinoThunder and SPD were relative financial hits, but fans didn't like them as much as, to the point that Disney eventually relinquished the license back to Seban. Maybe something similar will happen? I HOPE not, but probably.
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Post by mybudgee on Oct 1, 2018 16:57:46 GMT
Please copy & paste this with your pledge if you're skipping ep. 9 altogether. Keep your word, even if initial word is positive (It won't be) I am (MyBudgee) not paying another dollar for this trilogy
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Post by House Targaryen on Oct 1, 2018 18:06:30 GMT
I will definitely see episode 9. Perhaps many times.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Oct 1, 2018 18:16:40 GMT
Please copy & paste this with your pledge if you're skipping ep. 9 altogether. Keep your word, even if initial word is positive (It won't be) I am (MyBudgee) not paying another dollar for this trilogy
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Post by Ocelot on Oct 1, 2018 18:20:32 GMT
Please copy & paste this with your pledge if you're skipping ep. 9 altogether. Keep your word, even if initial word is positive (It won't be) I am (MyBudgee) not paying another dollar for this trilogy Disney is shocked I'm sure.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 1, 2018 18:21:01 GMT
Please copy & paste this with your pledge if you're skipping ep. 9 altogether. Keep your word, even if initial word is positive (It won't be) I am (MyBudgee) not paying another dollar for this trilogy Meh, I don't see myself watching it, but if they really work their butts off to undo Episode 8, well, miracles dohappen.
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Post by warden on Oct 1, 2018 18:46:38 GMT
Please copy & paste this with your pledge if you're skipping ep. 9 altogether. Keep your word, even if initial word is positive (It won't be) I am (MyBudgee) not paying another dollar for this trilogy I haven't seen any thing Star Wars related since Revenge of the Sith.
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Post by mybudgee on Oct 1, 2018 18:47:38 GMT
Please copy & paste this with your pledge if you're skipping ep. 9 altogether. Keep your word, even if initial word is positive (It won't be) I am (MyBudgee) not paying another dollar for this trilogy Disney is shocked I'm sure. They might be if this third entry in the trilogy doesn't meet box office expectations
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