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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Oct 3, 2018 12:34:05 GMT
Eh I believe it. Haters just whine loudly. So do I. I mean look at some of those reviews. Many are identical. However haters do whine the loudest. Hence way most pro people just keep their mouth shut.
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Post by griffith82 on Oct 3, 2018 12:42:32 GMT
So do I. I mean look at some of those reviews. Many are identical. However haters do whine the loudest. Hence way most pro people just keep their mouth shut. You say that despite Solo crashing and burning. I'd stop ignoring reality to suit delusions myself but meh. Except it didn't. It made money, not as much as they'd have liked but that's not crashing and burning. Many movies have but not Solo.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Oct 3, 2018 13:46:29 GMT
However haters do whine the loudest. Hence way most pro people just keep their mouth shut. Not you though This paper is a laugh riot. Disney, Kennedy and Co. believe that we are idiots, and that tehz rooskies are obviously bad people who troll us and hurt American prize property of Star Wars. And, shockingly, a fair portion of the moron true believers think this story is not only plausible but real. It is ridiculous on face.... In short, Disney Wars defenders, abandon this if you want to be taken seriously as a human being.
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Post by masterwarderz on Oct 3, 2018 13:46:36 GMT
You say that despite Solo crashing and burning. I'd stop ignoring reality to suit delusions myself but meh. Except it didn't. It made money, not as much as they'd have liked but that's not crashing and burning. Many movies have but not Solo. It lost money actually, as I recall actually? It only made like a 100 mill, and erm, I don't know if you know much about Movies, but let me just tell ya this. They probably spent more on Ads then that hundred mill.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Oct 3, 2018 13:49:31 GMT
Except it didn't. It made money, not as much as they'd have liked but that's not crashing and burning. Many movies have but not Solo. It lost money actually, as I recall actually? It only made like a 100 mill, and erm, I don't know if you know much about Movies, but let me just tell ya this. They probably spent more on Ads then that hundred mill. Griffith, stop lying. Get the facts. Solo lost at minimum 80-100 million. This is available through multiple sources, thus I will not provide one. It is common knowledge.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Oct 3, 2018 13:55:30 GMT
Okay, why isn't Mark Hamill or anyone else defending the study then? Mark Hamill?... According to the study I think he's one of those infamous "Russian trolls" himself... *whispers* Are you a troll? I'm only kidding. Or am I?
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Post by Andrew Waples on Oct 3, 2018 13:58:29 GMT
However haters do whine the loudest. Hence way most pro people just keep their mouth shut. In short, Disney Wars defenders, abandon this if you want to be taken seriously as a human being. You just had to go that extra mile, didn't you.
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Post by Obadiah on Oct 3, 2018 14:12:13 GMT
Ruin directed the mövie för Lucasfilms. He still wörks för them. Hence Lucasfilms is ökay with him using this ridiculöus paper as a defense för why his shit mövie was bad. Okay, why isn't Mark Hamill or anyone else defending the study then? Why bother getting into a fight over this? There are some people who legitimately hate the movie. Why get into a fight with how widespread the hate/criticism is? Besides, I'm pretty sure bots and trolls didn't cause the poor box office performance of Solo. If this was part of an ongoing espionage operation to create cultural schisms and national discord (over Star Wars?) that's something for the intelligence agencies to look into.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Oct 3, 2018 14:15:34 GMT
In short, Disney Wars defenders, abandon this if you want to be taken seriously as a human being. You just had to go that extra mile, didn't you. Yes. I would prefer if people saw my posts and read them literally. I mean what I say, and I'm right more often than I'm wrong. This "paper" is an absolute farce. If you can't see it, I want you to. If you won't see it, I wait for the thinning of the herd.
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Post by masterwarderz on Oct 3, 2018 15:19:06 GMT
In short, Disney Wars defenders, abandon this if you want to be taken seriously as a human being. You just had to go that extra mile, didn't you. I mean, what can you say about manbabies? They go the extra mile and show just how welcoming they are to those that spat upon them.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Oct 3, 2018 15:47:51 GMT
Only thing I say to these so-called "Russian bots" is:
-Well done, next shot of vodka is on me comrades!
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Post by mybudgee on Oct 3, 2018 17:02:06 GMT
*reads thread*
The human race is in big fucking trouble...
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Post by Camel on Oct 3, 2018 17:46:44 GMT
Good god, that Morten guy sure got me! Now I gonna get my roubles from the Russian embassy.
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Post by Camel on Oct 3, 2018 17:48:46 GMT
Just so we're clear on this front: Lucasfilm in no way endorsed this bullshit study. It was some random guy with a ph.d that apparently had nothing better to do with his time. Then why did Ruin Johnsön retweet it if he didnt agree with it?
Johnson already backpedalled after he was widely mocked and got laughed at on twitter.
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Post by mybudgee on Oct 3, 2018 18:01:50 GMT
Ruin directed the mövie för Lucasfilms. He still wörks för them. Hence Lucasfilms is ökay with him using this ridiculöus paper as a defense för why his shit mövie was bad. Okay, why isn't Mark Hamill or anyone else defending the study then? I know! Because it's clearly fake news. Any rational adult can see that "Public relations is about building, improving and maintaining the public image and perception of an individual, company or organization. Damage control is one duty of a public relations department and it involves minimizing the negative effect caused by an event or series of events by any means necessary"
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Post by Andrew Waples on Oct 3, 2018 18:09:05 GMT
Okay, why isn't Mark Hamill or anyone else defending the study then? I know! Because it's clearly fake news. Any rational adult can see that "Public relations is about building, improving and maintaining the public image and perception of an individual, company or organization. Damage control is one duty of a public relations department and it involves minimizing the negative effect caused by an event or series of events by any means necessary" Yes... cause everything is a big goddamn conspiracy.
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Post by Camel on Oct 3, 2018 18:13:15 GMT
You say that despite Solo crashing and burning. I'd stop ignoring reality to suit delusions myself but meh. Except it didn't. It made money, not as much as they'd have liked but that's not crashing and burning. Many movies have but not Solo. Source?
"Wall Street analyst Barton Crockett says Solo will lose more than $50 million. Industry financing sources, however, say that figure could come in at $80 million or higher"
Even if we pretend that "Solo" hadn't lost a ton of money, then why the mice pulled the plug on other SW spinoffs?
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Post by mybudgee on Oct 3, 2018 18:23:16 GMT
I know! Because it's clearly fake news. Any rational adult can see that "Public relations is about building, improving and maintaining the public image and perception of an individual, company or organization. Damage control is one duty of a public relations department and it involves minimizing the negative effect caused by an event or series of events by any means necessary" Yes... cause everything is a big goddamn conspiracy.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Oct 3, 2018 18:25:39 GMT
Yes... cause everything is a big goddamn conspiracy. But, sir! I thought we had determined the Russian thing was fake news!
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Post by Iakus on Oct 3, 2018 20:39:24 GMT
Except it didn't. It made money, not as much as they'd have liked but that's not crashing and burning. Many movies have but not Solo. Source?
"Wall Street analyst Barton Crockett says Solo will lose more than $50 million. Industry financing sources, however, say that figure could come in at $80 million or higher"
Even if we pretend that "Solo" hadn't lost a ton of money, then why the mice pulled the plug on other SW spinoffs?
Didn't JUSTICE LEAGUE outperform Solo?
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Post by griffith82 on Oct 3, 2018 21:23:50 GMT
Except it didn't. It made money, not as much as they'd have liked but that's not crashing and burning. Many movies have but not Solo. Source?
"Wall Street analyst Barton Crockett says Solo will lose more than $50 million. Industry financing sources, however, say that figure could come in at $80 million or higher"
Even if we pretend that "Solo" hadn't lost a ton of money, then why the mice pulled the plug on other SW spinoffs?
it made over$100 million past the budget. Now if that budget was not accounting for marketing that's another story.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Oct 3, 2018 21:35:45 GMT
Source?
"Wall Street analyst Barton Crockett says Solo will lose more than $50 million. Industry financing sources, however, say that figure could come in at $80 million or higher"
Even if we pretend that "Solo" hadn't lost a ton of money, then why the mice pulled the plug on other SW spinoffs?
it made over$100 million past the budget. Now if that budget was not accounting for marketing that's another story. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solo:_A_Star_Wars_StoryBased on those numbers; it looks like it did make a loss on the production budget. Studios don't get 100% of the box office take, but they do shoulder 100% of the stated production budget. Theatres (and distributors if different from the studio) get a cut - sometimes a significant one. Even at a conservative estimate of theatre cut @ 33%, that leaves $263M for Disney - less than the production budget. None of that means you can't like the film, of course. It just means that; yes - based on publicly available information, it made a loss on production (i.e. before marketing is even considered).
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