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Post by griffith82 on Oct 3, 2018 22:13:51 GMT
it made over$100 million past the budget. Now if that budget was not accounting for marketing that's another story. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solo:_A_Star_Wars_StoryBased on those numbers; it looks like it did make a loss on the production budget. Studios don't get 100% of the box office take, but they do shoulder 100% of the stated production budget. Theatres (and distributors if different from the studio) get a cut - sometimes a significant one. Even at a conservative estimate of theatre cut @ 33%, that leaves $263M for Disney - less than the production budget. None of that means you can't like the film, of course. It just means that; yes - based on publicly available information, it made a loss on production (i.e. before marketing is even considered). Fair enough.
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it made over$100 million past the budget. Now if that budget was not accounting for marketing that's another story. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solo:_A_Star_Wars_StoryBased on those numbers; it looks like it did make a loss on the production budget. Studios don't get 100% of the box office take, but they do shoulder 100% of the stated production budget. Theatres (and distributors if different from the studio) get a cut - sometimes a significant one. Even at a conservative estimate of theatre cut @ 33%, that leaves $263M for Disney - less than the production budget. None of that means you can't like the film, of course. It just means that; yes - based on publicly available information, it made a loss on production (i.e. before marketing is even considered). Everyöne knöws thöse böx öffice numbers were hacked by the Russians.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Oct 4, 2018 21:20:46 GMT
Lol.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Oct 4, 2018 23:08:18 GMT
The Disney Star Wars additions I like so far: - Crossguard lightsabers - Jakku (I know some people just consider it discount Tattoine, but it is interesting to see a planet that's nothing but a desert junkyard with only small camps as civilization). - New Stormtrooper design that honestly look less goofy and seems more functional. - Female imperial officers and stormtroopers - BB-8 - Maz Kanata - K2-SO - The idea that the hidden, but still kind of obvious, Death Star weakness was deliberately placed by an undercover Rebel. - The Ghost and her crew (Basically Star Wars Rebels). - Doctor Aphra - The Porgs (still can get annoying and used too much, but they're still cute critters)
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Post by colfoley on Oct 4, 2018 23:43:07 GMT
The Disney Star Wars additions I like so far: - Crossguard lightsabers - Jakku (I know some people just consider it discount Tattoine, but it is interesting to see a planet that's nothing but a desert junkyard with only small camps as civilization). - New Stormtrooper design that honestly look less goofy and seems more functional. - Female imperial officers and stormtroopers - BB-8 - Maz Kanata - K2-SO - The idea that the hidden, but still kind of obvious, Death Star weakness was deliberately placed by an undercover Rebel. - The Ghost and her crew (Basically Star Wars Rebels). - Doctor Aphra - The Porgs (still can get annoying and used too much, but they're still cute critters) Want to add to the stormtrooper thing that generally speaking the First Order is way more competent then the Empire...at least the Empire portrayed on screen through most of the trilogy, Rogue One and a few of the book series and Admiral Thrawn kind of redeems them a little. But the Empire was full of incompetent glory seeking bafoons who had no real appreciation for a proper command structure while the First Order is a multi layered juggernaught of destruction that succeeds and just keeps coming DESPITE having its major super weapons destroyed DESPITE losing its Dreadnaught in the opening moments of Jedi DESPITE getting their flag ship cut in half and DESPITE having to deal with two somewhat incompetent officers at the top, but then at least Hux and Ren actually have character reasons for being so bad other then Lucas and co couldn't figure out how to give the Rebels a competent way out. In short the First Order is actually terrifying, the Empire was, lol why you so stupid?
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Oct 5, 2018 0:29:36 GMT
First image of Jon Favreu's new Star Wars Mandelorian show for the Disney streaming service.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Oct 5, 2018 1:18:15 GMT
First image of Jon Favreu's new Star Wars Mandelorian show for the Disney streaming service. Mandalorian. It is actually in the link you posted. The correct spelling.
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The only Mandalorians I want to see is Mandalore going at it with Revan, aka Knights of the Old Republic.
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Post by Pounce de León on Oct 5, 2018 8:22:47 GMT
The Disney Star Wars additions I like so far: - Crossguard lightsabers - Jakku (I know some people just consider it discount Tattoine, but it is interesting to see a planet that's nothing but a desert junkyard with only small camps as civilization). - New Stormtrooper design that honestly look less goofy and seems more functional. - Female imperial officers and stormtroopers - BB-8 - Maz Kanata - K2-SO - The idea that the hidden, but still kind of obvious, Death Star weakness was deliberately placed by an undercover Rebel. - The Ghost and her crew (Basically Star Wars Rebels). - Doctor Aphra - The Porgs (still can get annoying and used too much, but they're still cute critters) Want to add to the stormtrooper thing that generally speaking the First Order is way more competent then the Empire...at least the Empire portrayed on screen through most of the trilogy, Rogue One and a few of the book series and Admiral Thrawn kind of redeems them a little. But the Empire was full of incompetent glory seeking bafoons who had no real appreciation for a proper command structure while the First Order is a multi layered juggernaught of destruction that succeeds and just keeps coming DESPITE having its major super weapons destroyed DESPITE losing its Dreadnaught in the opening moments of Jedi DESPITE getting their flag ship cut in half and DESPITE having to deal with two somewhat incompetent officers at the top, but then at least Hux and Ren actually have character reasons for being so bad other then Lucas and co couldn't figure out how to give the Rebels a competent way out. In short the First Order is actually terrifying, the Empire was, lol why you so stupid? The First Order is a ridiculously unbelievable McGuffin.
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Post by Pounce de León on Oct 5, 2018 9:32:25 GMT
Hux is a joke. A wet fart in the annals of Star Wars. Kinda the role model for the rest of the character lineup. At least SW is consistent in its demise.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Oct 5, 2018 9:46:33 GMT
Resident self-proclaimed literary master class claims First Order is realz scary.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Oct 5, 2018 14:42:17 GMT
As much as I like the designs of the First Order stormtroopers better than the Empire’s, I would never say that the First Order is better than the Empire. Sure the First Order destroyed the entire new republic in one fell swoop and the stormtroopers seem a bit more competent in that they can actually hit something or be much closer.
However, to me, an evil empire is only as formidable as the people in charge. And I’m sorry, the leadership in the First Order sucks.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 5, 2018 15:34:04 GMT
Hux is a joke. A wet fart in the annals of Star Wars. Kinda the role model for the rest of the character lineup. At least SW is consistent in its demise. Hux is a villain you'd expect Adam West to be facing.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 5, 2018 15:35:45 GMT
As much as I like the designs of the First Order stormtroopers better than the Empire’s, I would never say that the First Order is better than the Empire. Sure the First Order destroyed the entire new republic in one fell swoop and the stormtroopers seem a bit more competent in that they can actually hit something or be much closer. However, to me, an evil empire is only as formidable as the people in charge. And I’m sorry, the leadership in the First Order sucks. I still don't care for the Duck Trooper look
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Oct 5, 2018 15:47:14 GMT
I thought about the Luke Skywalker thing in Last Jedi. I personally never had too much of a problem with it since they included a redemption arc for Luke in the end, but I finally admit that Luke would never consider killing a loved one that might fall to the dark side, even for a split second.
Personally, I would have changed it so that when Luke was doing the force thing and feeling Ben’s dark side manifestation, he ends up in that force conversation thing with Snoke who not only taunts Luke about how he won’t save Ben, but also tricks him into igniting his lightsaber in front of Ben, leading to Ben striking out and officially forming the Knights of Ren.
I think this change would have worked wonders honestly. Not only does it make Ben’s fall to the Dark Side NOT Luke’s fault, it also establishes Snoke being the key manipulator into Ben’s fall as well as establish Snoke’s connection to Luke. Plus, Luke would have a good legitimate reason for blaming himself, because he failed to protect someone he loved.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Oct 5, 2018 15:48:19 GMT
As much as I like the designs of the First Order stormtroopers better than the Empire’s, I would never say that the First Order is better than the Empire. Sure the First Order destroyed the entire new republic in one fell swoop and the stormtroopers seem a bit more competent in that they can actually hit something or be much closer. However, to me, an evil empire is only as formidable as the people in charge. And I’m sorry, the leadership in the First Order sucks. I still don't care for the Duck Trooper look Well, at least it looks like you can see out of it!
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Post by Iakus on Oct 5, 2018 16:01:06 GMT
I still don't care for the Duck Trooper look Well, at least it looks like you can see out of it!
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Post by Radec on Oct 5, 2018 17:19:24 GMT
DESPITE having to deal with two somewhat incompetent officers at the top, but then at least Hux and Ren actually have character reasons for being so bad Hux had "character reasons" for falling for a prank call and acting like a spoiled brat?... Sure, I wish OG storm-troopers weren't such a joke in the movies, but at least Tarkin came across as someone who could realistically reach command position. Can't really say the same for General Weasley. The First Order in general seem like frothing moustache twirlers to the point I can't take them seriously. Imperials just sort of coldly did the jobs they were ordered to. Tarkin wasn't shouting like a psycho when he blew up Alderaan. General Veers wasn't sneering when he defeated the Rebels on Hoth. It was far more believable that's how a powerful, efficient organization would act, made especially ridiculous by how the First Order comes off as comically powerful with practically limitless resources, when they should be far scrappier than the previous Empire.
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Post by mybudgee on Oct 5, 2018 19:27:34 GMT
Very relevant
(Big reason why the sequels are so weak)
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Post by Pounce de León on Oct 5, 2018 21:00:59 GMT
Imperial authority at its finest:
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Post by colfoley on Oct 5, 2018 21:04:44 GMT
DESPITE having to deal with two somewhat incompetent officers at the top, but then at least Hux and Ren actually have character reasons for being so bad Hux had "character reasons" for falling for a prank call and acting like a spoiled brat?... Sure, I wish OG storm-troopers weren't such a joke in the movies, but at least Tarkin came across as someone who could realistically reach command position. Can't really say the same for General Weasley. Yes he has an arrogant and over inflated sense of ego who likes to grandstand. But then so did Tarkin. Granted given the differences between the two characters I do doubt it would've been played the same way, not for comedic relief, but if Tarkin were in command the scene would've proceeded pretty much the same way as it did with Hux in command. Worse case Tarkin would've just forced Poe to retreat sooner then he was able to attack but Tarkin was just as arrogant as Hux was. Afterall despite being a 'stonecold badass' who looks rather competent Tarkin's on screen portrayal has been one of supreme arrogance, ambition, and failure. He wiggled Krennic out of his position, he lost the first Death Star thanks to dubious tactics (or lack of budget), and he let the Rebels on Lothal run roughshod. Again the Empire was a giant, confusing, inefficient beurocracy. The First Order is a mean lean fighting machine who tends to suceed no matter what obstacles are put in front of them.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 6, 2018 0:08:58 GMT
Hux had "character reasons" for falling for a prank call and acting like a spoiled brat?... Sure, I wish OG storm-troopers weren't such a joke in the movies, but at least Tarkin came across as someone who could realistically reach command position. Can't really say the same for General Weasley. Yes he has an arrogant and over inflated sense of ego who likes to grandstand. But then so did Tarkin. Granted given the differences between the two characters I do doubt it would've been played the same way, not for comedic relief, but if Tarkin were in command the scene would've proceeded pretty much the same way as it did with Hux in command. Worse case Tarkin would've just forced Poe to retreat sooner then he was able to attack but Tarkin was just as arrogant as Hux was. Afterall despite being a 'stonecold badass' who looks rather competent Tarkin's on screen portrayal has been one of supreme arrogance, ambition, and failure. He wiggled Krennic out of his position, he lost the first Death Star thanks to dubious tactics (or lack of budget), and he let the Rebels on Lothal run roughshod. Again the Empire was a giant, confusing, inefficient beurocracy. The First Order is a mean lean fighting machine who tends to suceed no matter what obstacles are put in front of them. Tarkin was arrogant, but he still came across as a rutheless bad*ss even while wearing fuzzy slippers. The guy even had Vader cowed!
He didn't do a single pratfall throughout ANH.
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