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Post by mybudgee on Oct 15, 2018 2:44:26 GMT
I don't really see the argument here, the people who were trying to do the remake knew that 'this would always be a possibility' read the press release. They did something risky, probably borderline illegal, they knew it, they got called on it, and now they have retreated and hopefully will move onto other things. The argument is that EA and Lucasfilm acted within their legal rights, but acted in a manner that was anti-community and anti-fandom in shutting down a project that wouldn't harm them one iota but would benefit the fans of that game immensely. /thread
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Post by smilesja on Oct 15, 2018 2:51:43 GMT
I don't really see the argument here, the people who were trying to do the remake knew that 'this would always be a possibility' read the press release. They did something risky, probably borderline illegal, they knew it, they got called on it, and now they have retreated and hopefully will move onto other things. The argument is that EA and Lucasfilm acted within their legal rights, but acted in a manner that was anti-community and anti-fandom in shutting down a project that wouldn't harm them one iota but would benefit the fans of that game immensely. Ehh it’s likely Disney, they’re like Nintendo in the way the protect their IPs. I’m sure the mods will come up with other ways to support their favorite Star Wars games.
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Post by HK90210 on Oct 15, 2018 5:18:23 GMT
Not that, it’s the attacks on other fans. The last few pages of constant bickering and insults has done as much damage than Johnson himself and this is from a guy who is critical of TLJ. The last few pages have been awful though when I calmed it was pretty hilarious but i felt it illustrated the dislike of other fans for simply having a different opinion for actually I don’t know like TLJ? This whole mess reminded me of the fights of the prequels and how unwelcome prequel fans were by old school fans and MSM (jake Lloyd got nominated for a Razzie!) we can be angry at Disney, Lucas, EA, whatever but the moment we’re at each other’s throats it’s where the toxicity really begins in my view.
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Post by Serza on Oct 15, 2018 7:03:56 GMT
And now imagine if TLJ was good.
Just imagine it.
If instead of going absolutely nuts with bullshit, it worked on explaining and fixing what was considered plot holes in TFA. If it used common sense with Leia (Carrie Fisher is dead, and if you're arguing that suddenly getting sucked into vacuum wouldn't be a good and meaningful death for Leia, it's gonna be a mighty short argument, because I won't bother), and don't forget death not having double standarts (I admit, I'm a little salty about what's-her-name, uh... Tallie Lintra? Now that seemed like a good and interesting character to develop, unlike Rose and with this movie Rey).
The ironic thing is, that if the movie WAS in fact meant to carry a feministic agenda, then it failed horribly, giving uninteresting female characters and killing off all the good ones. If anything, they harm feminism, hah.
Mind you, I'm not a feminist. I just use common fucking sense.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Oct 15, 2018 7:05:11 GMT
Why? What is this compulsion to blame me or old-school fans like me? I have never sent hate messages to Johnson, Tran or anyone. I have never pleaded for Kennedy to be fired or embarrassed, although I admit I might enjoy it I LOVE strong women in movies, especially when they're well-written and portrayed by a good actor. I am truly guilty of one crime; that is... not agreeing that the sequels are brilliant. Do I really reserve to be persecuted over this disagreement? Does anyone who calls out shitty writing & lazy direction of a MAJOR franchise film?!? Sorry but 3rd-wave feminism is a piece of shit, a waste of time and energy, frankly it's a sorority prank at best and furthermore episode 8 breaks down precisely ZERO gender barriers! What exactly are my crimes??? Your crime is feeding the flames of the divide. Your crime is turning the war into a joke without attempting to strike a balance. Your crime is encouraging fights in forums to continue, all of your sick entertainment. Drama for yo mama. This is the funniest post ever. Your crime is taking yourself so seriously that you think this is wartime. AKA, you haven't got a clue about anything. Star Wars fans are to blame for Star Wars sucking? Star Wars fans are to blame, that some nuFans think the nuShit is great? Star Wars fans aren't to blame for any of this. Jesus.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Oct 15, 2018 8:27:44 GMT
Not that, it’s the attacks on other fans. The last few pages of constant bickering and insults has done as much damage than Johnson himself and this is from a guy who is critical of TLJ. The last few pages have been awful though when I calmed it was pretty hilarious but i felt it illustrated the dislike of other fans for simply having a different opinion for actually I don’t know like TLJ? This whole mess reminded me of the fights of the prequels and how unwelcome prequel fans were by old school fans and MSM (jake Lloyd got nominated for a Razzie!) we can be angry at Disney, Lucas, EA, whatever but the moment we’re at each other’s throats it’s where the toxicity really begins in my view.The prequels were terribad. I loved them anyways, but I was fully aware of how bad they are, and AotC is definitely the worst movie of the six LucasWars. Re: the bolded - what is it with you kids, toxicity, and inability to comprehend disagreement? First - how am I damaging Star Wars? Does my criticism of the NuShit destroy your appetite for more? Does it make you not care about Star Wars as much, because on this one forum you go to people are mean and don't see your truth? If so, a) good and lolwut? Second, toxicity is way overused, buzzwordy fakesnewsy, dramatic and just lol. Third, this is me disagreeing with you. Doesn't mean I'm about to bath salt up and eat your face. Are we thirteen?
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Post by Kappa Neko on Oct 15, 2018 9:06:24 GMT
I watched the Han Solo movie on the airplane the other day... gosh was it boring! I actually think it's worse than The Last Jedi. Definitely way less entertaining. I almost quit watching after 10 minutes. Horrible dialogue. Dude who plays Han has ZERO charisma. Totally miscast. Just painful to watch. The plot was actually decent. But the actors were not compelling enough to carry this movie despite a number of popular and capable names among them.
To me the most interesting actress was the raider chick who looks like a real life mixed race Aloy. *g* She had a certain screen presence that outshined her tiny role. So if that's your most charismatic actor, you know you fucked up. And no, Woody Harrelson did not add anything to the film. His character was also a bit bland and totally predictable.
And I'm not even that much of a Star Wars fan. Rogue One was better, despite having a similar weak characters/actors problem.
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Post by Serza on Oct 15, 2018 9:22:21 GMT
I still think the biggest error is the "I have no idea what the fuck is going on" plot twist.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Oct 15, 2018 9:42:04 GMT
I still think the biggest error is the "I have no idea what the fuck is going on" plot twist. You mean Maul?
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Oct 15, 2018 9:45:27 GMT
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Can we get back on topic? Sniping at each other is just going to create more division. Exactly. Just as things were getting back on track they've derailed again. Leave the personal comments alone and get back on topic please.
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Post by Serza on Oct 15, 2018 10:04:48 GMT
I still think the biggest error is the "I have no idea what the fuck is going on" plot twist. You mean Maul?
Him and the entire plot twist being, after significant thought given to the mess, "Everyone betrays everyone."
Seriously, is there someone who didn't betray everyone else, or otherwise convolutedly tricked them? I think Chewie might have been one, but I can't tell with the convoluted mess it is.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Oct 15, 2018 14:07:37 GMT
First - how am I damaging Star Wars? Does my criticism of the NuShit destroy your appetite for more? Does it make you not care about Star Wars as much, because on this one forum you go to people are mean and don't see your truth? Well, when you use terms like NuShit, then yes. You are damaging Star Wars for us.
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Post by smilesja on Oct 15, 2018 14:45:39 GMT
Alright. Group hug in 3... 2... 1... ... Nah. That's kinda gay tbh.
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Post by Pounce de León on Oct 15, 2018 14:46:16 GMT
First - how am I damaging Star Wars? Does my criticism of the NuShit destroy your appetite for more? Does it make you not care about Star Wars as much, because on this one forum you go to people are mean and don't see your truth? Well, when you use terms like NuShit, then yes. You are damaging Star Wars for us. Sorry, but the only one damaging SW is Disney.
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Post by smilesja on Oct 15, 2018 14:47:23 GMT
Well, when you use terms like NuShit, then yes. You are damaging Star Wars for us. Sorry, but the only one damaging SW is Disney. And toxic fans.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Oct 15, 2018 14:48:19 GMT
First - how am I damaging Star Wars? Does my criticism of the NuShit destroy your appetite for more? Does it make you not care about Star Wars as much, because on this one forum you go to people are mean and don't see your truth? Well, when you use terms like NuShit, then yes. You are damaging Star Wars for us. Uh-huh. So criticism, even if less than 100% constructive, is "damaging" these days. Boy, the world we live in... Oh yeah, and I also reject that "nuShit" is damaging to Star Wars as it is not being applied to Star Wars, but rather Mickey Wars. Unless you mean nuShit/Mickey Wars is damaging to Star Wars because it has replaced it. In which case, yes.
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Post by Pounce de León on Oct 15, 2018 14:48:37 GMT
Sorry, but the only one damaging SW is Disney. And toxic fans. Haven't seen any here around luckily.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Oct 15, 2018 14:50:27 GMT
Sorry, but the only one damaging SW is Disney. And toxic fans.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Oct 15, 2018 15:02:55 GMT
Are we still on this debate? No one is convincing anyone of anything.
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Post by Pounce de León on Oct 15, 2018 15:08:33 GMT
Are we still on this debate? No one is convincing anyone of anything. Is no crusade here. Some like watching a trainwreck, some like to see new SW. They come here and collide.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Oct 15, 2018 15:53:08 GMT
I for one am just really allergic to the term "toxic" in these sorts of contexts. It's so knee-jerk reactionary and dismissive, it just shuts down discussion, regardless of any progress made.
Granted there isn't likely to be much progress here, you either like Mickey Wars or you don't. Still, don't like that word.
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