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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 10, 2021 18:36:02 GMT
Oh come now. Even if you hate the story, there are more good things than that. I mean, they are aesthetically gorgeous and the music is still great. Prequels beat the sequels by a country mile and music. A lot of the sequels' music were rehashes of old music. Episode 3 absolutely (best score in the entire saga) but no on 1 (Duel of Fates can't carry it) and 2.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Feb 10, 2021 18:37:14 GMT
Oh come now. Even if you hate the story, there are more good things than that. I mean, they are aesthetically gorgeous and the music is still great. Prequels beat the sequels by a country mile and music. A lot of the sequels' music were rehashes of old music. Hell, Jar Jar Binks beats Ray as a main character. 😆
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Post by Iakus on Feb 10, 2021 19:54:22 GMT
Prequels beat the sequels by a country mile and music. A lot of the sequels' music were rehashes of old music. Episode 3 absolutely (best score in the entire saga) but no on 1 (Duel of Fates can't carry it) and 2. Prequel trilogy had Ewan McGregor, who absolutely nailed it as a young Obi-Won Kenobi.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 10, 2021 20:12:13 GMT
Episode 3 absolutely (best score in the entire saga) but no on 1 (Duel of Fates can't carry it) and 2. Prequel trilogy had Ewan McGregor, who absolutely nailed it as a young Obi-Won Kenobi. Agreed, though he has nothing to do with what’s being talked about which is the music.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Feb 11, 2021 11:08:04 GMT
Well.
That's annoying.
Especially since the tweet they're claiming was the last straw seems to have made no actual controversial point, looking at the text of it.
Vid about it I just saw:
EDIT:
Gina's "final straw" tweet:
"Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors... even by children. Because history is edited, most people today don't realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views?"
LucasFilm said the following about that post:
"Gina Carano is not currently employed by Lucasfilm and there are no plans for her to be in the future. Nevertheless, her social media posts denigrating people based on their cultural and religious identities are abhorrent and unacceptable."
... Who the hell was she denigrating? The Nazi regime??? Cus that's whose tactics (of turning neighbor against neighbor via social engineering) she was criticizing in her tweet.
Also, willfully misrepresenting and then firing her for that tweet... way to prove her point, Disney. ffs
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Post by rewindbutton on Feb 11, 2021 11:58:30 GMT
Well.
That's annoying.
[snip]
Also, willfully misrepresenting and then firing her for that tweet... way to prove her point, Disney. ffs
Her point was, that conservatives are the jews of today, being beaten in the streets by liberals.
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Post by rewindbutton on Feb 11, 2021 12:05:16 GMT
I liked her character, but unfortunately as a person she is a right wing nutcase complete with stop-the-steal and covid-is-a-fraud conspiracies.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 11, 2021 12:07:42 GMT
Good riddance. Never liked the character anyway, and she’s proved multiple times to be a terrible person.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Feb 11, 2021 13:43:44 GMT
Well.
That's annoying.
[snip]
Also, willfully misrepresenting and then firing her for that tweet... way to prove her point, Disney. ffs
Her point was, that conservatives are the jews of today, being beaten in the streets by liberals. Her point was that the first step to the holocaust was the othering of the target minority by the government and making it socially acceptable to turn on them, a prime example being their own neighbors physically turning on them after years of Jews=rats propaganda. And she's right.
And, looking at the very public refrain by various media personalities and people on social media who are talking about how republicans/MAGA folks are in a cult and require deprogramming; people pushing for lists of those who dared ever support MAGA over the last 4 years; the calls to blacklist anyone who was ever employed by the Trump administration; the denial of freaking maternity leave benefits to people currently in government who were appointed by Trump... I'd call that "othering".
Also, you mock it cus liberals in general aren't beating conservatives in the street, but isn't that what happened whenever antifa decided to try to show up at a free speech or MAGA rally? They definitely attempted to beat people in the street. People with MAGA hats being harassed, people leaving Trump rallies getting cornered and having eggs thrown at them, Trump bumper stickers basically guaranteeing you'll get your car keyed depending on where you live. More seriously, there was the attempt on the congressional Republican softball team at the start of Trump's term. Rand Paul being attacked by his neighbor for his supposed support of Trump's policies. Not to mention Aaron Danielson being murdered for being a Trump supporter.
I'm sorry, from my view, she has a valid point.
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Post by B. Hieronymus Da on Feb 11, 2021 14:02:12 GMT
A long time ago, (at least I think it was this thread) I posted to say that the only thing I had to say, was that if I became a dictator, I would have the creators of 'The Last Jedi' flogged in public.
Now, I return to make another statement: Bob Iger will likely die before me. When he does, I will seek out his grave, and piss on it. 😑
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Feb 11, 2021 14:05:18 GMT
A long time ago, (at least I think it was this thread) I posted to say that the only thing I had to say, was that if I became a dictator, I would have the creators of 'The Last Jedi' flogged in public. Seems a bit of an overreaction, but you rant how you have to, I guess. lol
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Post by B. Hieronymus Da on Feb 11, 2021 14:06:39 GMT
Good riddance. Never liked the character anyway, and she’s proved multiple times to be a terrible person. Evidence? I've only seen good sides of her.
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Post by Iakus on Feb 11, 2021 14:13:43 GMT
Just as The Mandalorian starts redeeming Disney Wars, they start pulling this cr*p. I thought Hollywood blacklisting went out of style in the '50s.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Feb 11, 2021 14:27:36 GMT
I suspect that part of the reason Disney have taken a stand on this now is that Pedro Pascal's sister just came out, which I imagine would have made his working with Carano pretty awkward if she'd returned. Don't blame them for wanting to keep the star and not a guest actor who cannot stop saying horrible things on social media.
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Post by Iakus on Feb 11, 2021 14:29:37 GMT
I suspect that part of the reason Disney have taken a stand on this now is that Pedro Pascal's sister just came out, which I imagine would have made his working with Carano pretty awkward if she'd returned. Don't blame them for wanting to keep the star and not a guest actor who cannot stop saying horrible things on social media. She was also supposed to get her own show, Rangers of the New Republic or something like that. Besides which, for all the supposedly horrible things she's supposed to have said, I haven't been able to find anyone to quote or point to anything specific she said that was so awful.
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Post by B. Hieronymus Da on Feb 11, 2021 14:32:31 GMT
I suspect that part of the reason Disney have taken a stand on this now is that Pedro Pascal's sister just came out, which I imagine would have made his working with Carano pretty awkward if she'd returned. Don't blame them for wanting to keep the star and not a guest actor who cannot stop saying horrible things on social media. ??? Why? And what "horrible things on social media"? Give me one accurate quote in full context.
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Post by Kabraxal on Feb 11, 2021 16:20:17 GMT
Disney is such a shit company. Pity, I enjoyed The Mandalorian but I won’t watch the next season now. So tired of this PC bullshit running amok.
Funny enough... Disney won’t work with Gina because of these “offensive” posts but by golly, a totalitarian regime operating actual internment camps and abusing human rights is totally fine to work with. Fuck Disney.
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Post by skekSil on Feb 11, 2021 17:14:34 GMT
"Gina Carano is not currently employed by Lucasfilm and there are no plans for her to be in the future. Nevertheless, her social media posts denigrating people based on their cultural and religious identities are abhorrent and unacceptable." I dont see Lucasfilm saying they fired Carano for her post. What it says to me is : She doesnt work for us currently, we dont plan to hire her in future and by the way we dont like her posts. Perhaps her contract has ended after season 2 and they decided not to bring her to season 3 because she simply doesnt fit into its plot or she asked for a raise or, I dunno, Pedro Pascal didnt like working with her. Also , postS not post, so they dont like her other posts too. Its even possible they have no problem with this particular one but other posts are what made them angry with her. IMO, The statement is a bit too vague to make conclusions without other sources.
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Post by smilesja on Feb 11, 2021 17:31:53 GMT
She should've framed her tweet differently, it was bad enough she was saddled with a lot of controversy. I mean if she didn't add the Holocaust as an analogy then she probably would've been fine.
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Post by Gileadan on Feb 11, 2021 18:33:30 GMT
Sadly, this doesn't come as much of a surprise.
The insane Twatter shitbirds had it in for her ever since she refused to add pronouns to her profile. Her latest tweet wasn't something I would have posted, but then again, which company filmed Mulan near an actual concentration camp and it apparently wasn't much of a problem?
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Post by slimgrin727 on Feb 11, 2021 19:04:09 GMT
Canceled by the same cult of tolerance that's been labeling half the country as Nazis for 5 years. Nice.
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Post by Hier0phant on Feb 11, 2021 20:03:17 GMT
Sadly, this doesn't come as much of a surprise. The insane Twatter shitbirds had it in for her ever since she refused to add pronouns to her profile. Her latest tweet wasn't something I would have posted, but then again, which company filmed Mulan near an actual concentration camp and it apparently wasn't much of a problem? I forgot about Xinjiang. Disney firing anyone over Nazi comparisons after they had no qualms with ignoring the perpetuation of the largest case of human rights abuse in the 21st century all in pursuit of a prettty penny is beyond hypocrisy. Carano was already skating on thin ice after Feige, and Filoni initially prevented her axeing after the pronoun fiasco, and should have used the Bolshevists, Stalinists, Mao's Red Guard and Khmer Rouge treatment of their political opponents as examples instead. Hell her comparing Republicans to Uighurs instead, and Disney's potential response would have been hilarious on all levels.
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