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This sums up this thread perfectly in a nutshell. Citation needed: ... after the original Trilogy:
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Post by masseffectfanforlife on May 22, 2018 17:14:33 GMT
Might not see Solo: A Star Wars Story, not because of the movie itself, but for all the toxic BS that almost entirely drained the excitement out of me. It's a sad twisted fandom now. You're either a cool, respectable fan on the negative side of things, or your a shill/sheep, and no longer have a relevant position in the Star Wars fan community. Smh
Star Wars fandom in general is getting out of hand. It's getting so bad with the horrible toxicity of the fanbase, I sometimes wonder if want to be a Star Wars fan anymore. It's come to that. It's reached that point. Despite loving Star Wars for years, I don't think I want to be part of a community with toxic people. Shill this, shill that. It's everywhere. Everywhere I see accusations that this is a shill/SJW Feminist movement. They say that Disney is ruining Star Wars. On the contrary, these horrible example of fans are ruining SW for me.
Has anyone seen the "Want to see it" percentage for Solo on Rotten Tomatoes? Now I really can't take that site seriously. I can't see the legitimacy for this. It's ridiculous. This fandom is starting to either make me sick to my stomach, or fall on the floor laughing. I can't take people like that seriously. For one, it's the internet, and no one in their right mind would be just as irrational and/or pathetic in person. It's possible, though. Also no matter how many of you say "Well, they have a legitimate reason for being mad," I'm not taking it seriously. Sorry not sorry. It's one thing to have actually criticisms for a movie, but it's another to act the way some of these fans do online. The toxic fans are bringing this all down a horrible slope. I don't know if it's because Star Wars is not how they want it to be (meaning they hold the Original Trilogy close to them in a very unhealthy way), or if they're doing this for amusement to pluck the nerves of other people online (like trolls).
I'm not talking about fans who may have legitimately negative things to say about these movies. I-am-talking-about the irrational fans who have become a witch hunting poison in the fandom, who justify and shout out things (like a twisted regime) like "STAR WARS IS DEAD," "DISNEY RUINED STAR WARS," "THEY RAPED MY CHILDHOOD," "YOU'RE A SHILL/SHEEP," "YOU'RE A HATER," "YOU'RE NOT A REAL FAN," blah blah f**king blah. The list goes on. I thought it was bad before these new movies. Two insane sides (both negative & positive) in civil war, and attack those with an opposing. Leave the politics in the movies, not the fandom. They cover the internet like a plague. No civil discussion without attacks.
I'm sorry, but no one else is killing Star Wars except for that part of the fandom. Their horrible behavior will become so bad, it'll go beyond the internet, and grow further IRL (in person), and sooner or later people will just go away from Star Wars because a lot of fans are just so terrible. If this doesn't stop, Star Wars will eventually die. How's that for cruel irony?
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Might not see Solo: A Star Wars Story, not because of the movie itself, but for all the toxic BS that almost entirely drained the excitement out of me. It's a sad twisted fandom now. You're either a cool, respectable fan on the negative side of things, or your a shill/sheep, and no longer have a relevant position in the Star Wars fan community. Smh Star Wars fandom in general is getting out of hand. It's getting so bad with the horrible toxicity of the fanbase, I sometimes wonder if want to be a Star Wars fan anymore. It's come to that. It's reached that point. Despite loving Star Wars for years, I don't think I want to be part of a community with toxic people. Shill this, shill that. It's everywhere. Everywhere I see accusations that this is a shill/SJW Feminist movement. They say that Disney is ruining Star Wars. On the contrary, these horrible example of fans are ruining SW for me. Has anyone seen the "Want to see it" percentage for Solo on Rotten Tomatoes? Now I really can't take that site seriously. I can't see the legitimacy for this. It's ridiculous. This fandom is starting to either make me sick to my stomach, or fall on the floor laughing. I can't take people like that seriously. For one, it's the internet, and no one in their right mind would be just as irrational and/or pathetic in person. It's possible, though. Also no matter how many of you say "Well, they have a legitimate reason for being mad," I'm not taking it seriously. Sorry not sorry. It's one thing to have actually criticisms for a movie, but it's another to act the way some of these fans do online. The toxic fans are bringing this all down a horrible slope. I don't know if it's because Star Wars is not how they want it to be (meaning they hold the Original Trilogy close to them in a very unhealthy way), or if they're doing this for amusement to pluck the nerves of other people online (like trolls). I'm not talking about fans who may have legitimately negative things to say about these movies. I-am-talking-about the irrational fans who have become a witch hunting poison in the fandom, who justify and shout out things (like a twisted regime) like "STAR WARS IS DEAD," "DISNEY RUINED STAR WARS," "THEY RAPED MY CHILDHOOD," "YOU'RE A SHILL/SHEEP," "YOU'RE A HATER," "YOU'RE NOT A REAL FAN," blah blah f**king blah. The list goes on. I thought it was bad before these new movies. Two insane sides (both negative & positive) in civil war, and attack those with an opposing. Leave the politics in the movies, not the fandom. They cover the internet like a plague. No civil discussion without attacks. I'm sorry, but no one else is killing Star Wars except for that part of the fandom. Their horrible behavior will become so bad, it'll go beyond the internet, and grow further IRL (in person), and sooner or later people will just go away from Star Wars because a lot of fans are just so terrible. If this doesn't stop, Star Wars will eventually die. How's that for cruel irony? First let me say that I think the idea öf the fandöm being "töxic" is överstated. Yes there has been peöple whö are töxic in this fandöm, just like any öther, but they are a very small part that för söme reasön always gets the möst attentiön. The fans did nöt make the fandöm "töxic" but the mövie makers did. Why was this nöt a pröblem with the prequels? Sure peöple göt intö heated arguments aböut them but it was never "töxic". The reasön is that as I've been saying again and again, the mövie makers have a very clear pölitical agenda they want tö push. And then when peöple criticize it they cöme öut and say that they are just racist, sexiest, bigöts, man babies, ect. Why dö yöu önly call öut the fans för their "toxic" behavior and nöt the mövie makers? The vastly huge percentage öf peöple whö hated the Last Jedi had legitimate pröblems with the störy, the characters, the pacing, the jökes. And then thöse peöple are called hörrible things by the mövie makers. Rain fuckin Johnsön has said that he has zerö regrets aböut it and nöne of the criticism is fair. Really? Sö the mövie is perfect? I am fuckin tried öf the peöple whö call us töxic för simply pöinting öut the fact that the mövie has HUGE plothöles, the characters are flawed, ect. Keep ön ignöring the agenda these peöple have. They actually say it in interviews. And I am the bad guy whö pöints it öut. I'm the öne making it "töxic" yeah ökay.
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Post by smilesja on May 22, 2018 17:42:11 GMT
Might not see Solo: A Star Wars Story, not because of the movie itself, but for all the toxic BS that almost entirely drained the excitement out of me. It's a sad twisted fandom now. You're either a cool, respectable fan on the negative side of things, or your a shill/sheep, and no longer have a relevant position in the Star Wars fan community. Smh Star Wars fandom in general is getting out of hand. It's getting so bad with the horrible toxicity of the fanbase, I sometimes wonder if want to be a Star Wars fan anymore. It's come to that. It's reached that point. Despite loving Star Wars for years, I don't think I want to be part of a community with toxic people. Shill this, shill that. It's everywhere. Everywhere I see accusations that this is a shill/SJW Feminist movement. They say that Disney is ruining Star Wars. On the contrary, these horrible example of fans are ruining SW for me. Has anyone seen the "Want to see it" percentage for Solo on Rotten Tomatoes? Now I really can't take that site seriously. I can't see the legitimacy for this. It's ridiculous. This fandom is starting to either make me sick to my stomach, or fall on the floor laughing. I can't take people like that seriously. For one, it's the internet, and no one in their right mind would be just as irrational and/or pathetic in person. It's possible, though. Also no matter how many of you say "Well, they have a legitimate reason for being mad," I'm not taking it seriously. Sorry not sorry. It's one thing to have actually criticisms for a movie, but it's another to act the way some of these fans do online. The toxic fans are bringing this all down a horrible slope. I don't know if it's because Star Wars is not how they want it to be (meaning they hold the Original Trilogy close to them in a very unhealthy way), or if they're doing this for amusement to pluck the nerves of other people online (like trolls). I'm not talking about fans who may have legitimately negative things to say about these movies. I-am-talking-about the irrational fans who have become a witch hunting poison in the fandom, who justify and shout out things (like a twisted regime) like "STAR WARS IS DEAD," "DISNEY RUINED STAR WARS," "THEY RAPED MY CHILDHOOD," "YOU'RE A SHILL/SHEEP," "YOU'RE A HATER," "YOU'RE NOT A REAL FAN," blah blah f**king blah. The list goes on. I thought it was bad before these new movies. Two insane sides (both negative & positive) in civil war, and attack those with an opposing. Leave the politics in the movies, not the fandom. They cover the internet like a plague. No civil discussion without attacks. I'm sorry, but no one else is killing Star Wars except for that part of the fandom. Their horrible behavior will become so bad, it'll go beyond the internet, and grow further IRL (in person), and sooner or later people will just go away from Star Wars because a lot of fans are just so terrible. If this doesn't stop, Star Wars will eventually die. How's that for cruel irony? So Disney created the most divisive movie since the Phantom Menace and has it's newest one be shrouded by controversy and it's the fans fault?
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Post by Andrew Waples on May 22, 2018 18:04:19 GMT
Might not see Solo: A Star Wars Story, not because of the movie itself, but for all the toxic BS that almost entirely drained the excitement out of me. It's a sad twisted fandom now. You're either a cool, respectable fan on the negative side of things, or your a shill/sheep, and no longer have a relevant position in the Star Wars fan community. Smh Star Wars fandom in general is getting out of hand. It's getting so bad with the horrible toxicity of the fanbase, I sometimes wonder if want to be a Star Wars fan anymore. It's come to that. It's reached that point. Despite loving Star Wars for years, I don't think I want to be part of a community with toxic people. Shill this, shill that. It's everywhere. Everywhere I see accusations that this is a shill/SJW Feminist movement. They say that Disney is ruining Star Wars. On the contrary, these horrible example of fans are ruining SW for me. Has anyone seen the "Want to see it" percentage for Solo on Rotten Tomatoes? Now I really can't take that site seriously. I can't see the legitimacy for this. It's ridiculous. This fandom is starting to either make me sick to my stomach, or fall on the floor laughing. I can't take people like that seriously. For one, it's the internet, and no one in their right mind would be just as irrational and/or pathetic in person. It's possible, though. Also no matter how many of you say "Well, they have a legitimate reason for being mad," I'm not taking it seriously. Sorry not sorry. It's one thing to have actually criticisms for a movie, but it's another to act the way some of these fans do online. The toxic fans are bringing this all down a horrible slope. I don't know if it's because Star Wars is not how they want it to be (meaning they hold the Original Trilogy close to them in a very unhealthy way), or if they're doing this for amusement to pluck the nerves of other people online (like trolls). I'm not talking about fans who may have legitimately negative things to say about these movies. I-am-talking-about the irrational fans who have become a witch hunting poison in the fandom, who justify and shout out things (like a twisted regime) like "STAR WARS IS DEAD," "DISNEY RUINED STAR WARS," "THEY RAPED MY CHILDHOOD," "YOU'RE A SHILL/SHEEP," "YOU'RE A HATER," "YOU'RE NOT A REAL FAN," blah blah f**king blah. The list goes on. I thought it was bad before these new movies. Two insane sides (both negative & positive) in civil war, and attack those with an opposing. Leave the politics in the movies, not the fandom. They cover the internet like a plague. No civil discussion without attacks. I'm sorry, but no one else is killing Star Wars except for that part of the fandom. Their horrible behavior will become so bad, it'll go beyond the internet, and grow further IRL (in person), and sooner or later people will just go away from Star Wars because a lot of fans are just so terrible. If this doesn't stop, Star Wars will eventually die. How's that for cruel irony? First let me say that I think the idea öf the fandöm being "töxic" is överstated. Yes there has been peöple whö are töxic in this fandöm, just like any öther, but they are a very small part that för söme reasön always gets the möst attentiön. The fans did nöt make the fandöm "töxic" but the mövie makers did. Why was this nöt a pröblem with the prequels? Sure peöple göt intö heated arguments aböut them but it was never "töxic". The reasön is that as I've been saying again and again, the mövie makers have a very clear pölitical agenda they want tö push. And then when peöple criticize it they cöme öut and say that they are just racist, sexiest, bigöts, man babies, ect. Why dö yöu önly call öut the fans för their "toxic" behavior and nöt the mövie makers? The vastly huge percentage öf peöple whö hated the Last Jedi had legitimate pröblems with the störy, the characters, the pacing, the jökes. And then thöse peöple are called hörrible things by the mövie makers. Rain fuckin Johnsön has said that he has zerö regrets aböut it and nöne of the criticism is fair. Really? Sö the mövie is perfect? I am fuckin tried öf the peöple whö call us töxic för simply pöinting öut the fact that the mövie has HUGE plothöles, the characters are flawed, ect. Keep ön ignöring the agenda these peöple have. They actually say it in interviews. And I am the bad guy whö pöints it öut. I'm the öne making it "töxic" yeah ökay. And no one is pointing the finger at you. Read any Star Wars YouTube comment section and you'll find those comments. Having no regrets means that something you did is perfect? So wishing death on Rian Johnson is okay for a fanbase to do? That make sense.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on May 22, 2018 18:06:22 GMT
Might not see Solo: A Star Wars Story, not because of the movie itself, but for all the toxic BS that almost entirely drained the excitement out of me. It's a sad twisted fandom now. You're either a cool, respectable fan on the negative side of things, or your a shill/sheep, and no longer have a relevant position in the Star Wars fan community. Smh Star Wars fandom in general is getting out of hand. It's getting so bad with the horrible toxicity of the fanbase, I sometimes wonder if want to be a Star Wars fan anymore. It's come to that. It's reached that point. Despite loving Star Wars for years, I don't think I want to be part of a community with toxic people. Shill this, shill that. It's everywhere. Everywhere I see accusations that this is a shill/SJW Feminist movement. They say that Disney is ruining Star Wars. On the contrary, these horrible example of fans are ruining SW for me. Has anyone seen the "Want to see it" percentage for Solo on Rotten Tomatoes? Now I really can't take that site seriously. I can't see the legitimacy for this. It's ridiculous. This fandom is starting to either make me sick to my stomach, or fall on the floor laughing. I can't take people like that seriously. For one, it's the internet, and no one in their right mind would be just as irrational and/or pathetic in person. It's possible, though. Also no matter how many of you say "Well, they have a legitimate reason for being mad," I'm not taking it seriously. Sorry not sorry. It's one thing to have actually criticisms for a movie, but it's another to act the way some of these fans do online. The toxic fans are bringing this all down a horrible slope. I don't know if it's because Star Wars is not how they want it to be (meaning they hold the Original Trilogy close to them in a very unhealthy way), or if they're doing this for amusement to pluck the nerves of other people online (like trolls). I'm not talking about fans who may have legitimately negative things to say about these movies. I-am-talking-about the irrational fans who have become a witch hunting poison in the fandom, who justify and shout out things (like a twisted regime) like "STAR WARS IS DEAD," "DISNEY RUINED STAR WARS," "THEY RAPED MY CHILDHOOD," "YOU'RE A SHILL/SHEEP," "YOU'RE A HATER," "YOU'RE NOT A REAL FAN," blah blah f**king blah. The list goes on. I thought it was bad before these new movies. Two insane sides (both negative & positive) in civil war, and attack those with an opposing. Leave the politics in the movies, not the fandom. They cover the internet like a plague. No civil discussion without attacks. I'm sorry, but no one else is killing Star Wars except for that part of the fandom. Their horrible behavior will become so bad, it'll go beyond the internet, and grow further IRL (in person), and sooner or later people will just go away from Star Wars because a lot of fans are just so terrible. If this doesn't stop, Star Wars will eventually die. How's that for cruel irony? First let me say that I think the idea öf the fandöm being "töxic" is överstated. Yes there has been peöple whö are töxic in this fandöm, just like any öther, but they are a very small part that för söme reasön always gets the möst attentiön. The fans did nöt make the fandöm "töxic" but the mövie makers did. Why was this nöt a pröblem with the prequels? Sure peöple göt intö heated arguments aböut them but it was never "töxic". The reasön is that as I've been saying again and again, the mövie makers have a very clear pölitical agenda they want tö push. And then when peöple criticize it they cöme öut and say that they are just racist, sexiest, bigöts, man babies, ect. Why dö yöu önly call öut the fans för their "toxic" behavior and nöt the mövie makers? The vastly huge percentage öf peöple whö hated the Last Jedi had legitimate pröblems with the störy, the characters, the pacing, the jökes. And then thöse peöple are called hörrible things by the mövie makers. Rain fuckin Johnsön has said that he has zerö regrets aböut it and nöne of the criticism is fair. Really? Sö the mövie is perfect? I am fuckin tried öf the peöple whö call us töxic för simply pöinting öut the fact that the mövie has HUGE plothöles, the characters are flawed, ect. Keep ön ignöring the agenda these peöple have. They actually say it in interviews. And I am the bad guy whö pöints it öut. I'm the öne making it "töxic" yeah ökay. SJW soyboys are the problem
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Post by griffith82 on May 22, 2018 18:16:41 GMT
I am so sick of this shit. “Oh I didn’t like it fuck you and fire Kathleen Kennedy.” “ Oh a female droid fuck you.” You know what’s ruining Star Wars? The fans.
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Post by Iakus on May 22, 2018 18:28:22 GMT
I am so sick of this shit. “Oh I didn’t like it fuck you and fire Kathleen Kennedy.” “ Oh a female droid fuck you.” You know what’s ruining Star Wars? The fans. As opposed to "Didn't like it? F*ck you, this is ART! You're just a racist/sexist/homophobic..." etc, etc? I don't intend to see Solo because TLJ took a ginormous dump on Luke Skywalker, and Disney (if not Kennedy herself) clearly doesn't give a sh*t about legacy characters save as cash-ins. Disney holds its own share of responsibility in "ruining" Star Wars. If you want to see Solo, fine. Enjoy! But movies are too expensive to attend when you're almost certainly not going to enjoy it.
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Post by Andrew Waples on May 22, 2018 18:39:15 GMT
I am so sick of this shit. “Oh I didn’t like it fuck you and fire Kathleen Kennedy.” “ Oh a female droid fuck you.” You know what’s ruining Star Wars? The fans. As opposed to "Didn't like it? F*ck you, this is ART! You're just a racist/sexist/homophobic..." etc, etc? I don't intend to see Solo because TLJ took a ginormous dump on Luke Skywalker, and Disney (if not Kennedy herself) clearly doesn't give a sh*t about legacy characters save as cash-ins. Disney holds its own share of responsibility in "ruining" Star Wars. If you want to see Solo, fine. Enjoy! But movies are too expensive to attend when you're almost certainly not going to enjoy it. Both sides of that arguement are a-holes. Then don't have an opinion on it by saying it's going to be shit.
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First let me say that I think the idea öf the fandöm being "töxic" is överstated. Yes there has been peöple whö are töxic in this fandöm, just like any öther, but they are a very small part that för söme reasön always gets the möst attentiön. The fans did nöt make the fandöm "töxic" but the mövie makers did. Why was this nöt a pröblem with the prequels? Sure peöple göt intö heated arguments aböut them but it was never "töxic". The reasön is that as I've been saying again and again, the mövie makers have a very clear pölitical agenda they want tö push. And then when peöple criticize it they cöme öut and say that they are just racist, sexiest, bigöts, man babies, ect. Why dö yöu önly call öut the fans för their "toxic" behavior and nöt the mövie makers? The vastly huge percentage öf peöple whö hated the Last Jedi had legitimate pröblems with the störy, the characters, the pacing, the jökes. And then thöse peöple are called hörrible things by the mövie makers. Rain fuckin Johnsön has said that he has zerö regrets aböut it and nöne of the criticism is fair. Really? Sö the mövie is perfect? I am fuckin tried öf the peöple whö call us töxic för simply pöinting öut the fact that the mövie has HUGE plothöles, the characters are flawed, ect. Keep ön ignöring the agenda these peöple have. They actually say it in interviews. And I am the bad guy whö pöints it öut. I'm the öne making it "töxic" yeah ökay. And no one is pointing the finger at you. Read any Star Wars YouTube comment section and you'll find those comments. Having no regrets means that something you did is perfect? So wishing death on Rian Johnson is okay for a fanbase to do? That make sense. Did yöu read what I said andy? I fuckin said there are töxic peöple in the fanbase. I did nöt deny it. LEARN TÖ READ. The fuckin mövie makers are pöinting fingers at me. Höw many times dö I have tö pöint this öut tö yöu? Why döes all the blame fall ön the FEW, VERY FEW TÖXIC FANS and zerö ön the önes making the claims of sexism, racism, bigöted ect. And gö pöint öut the sexist, racist bigöted cömments tö me andy I sure has hell pöinted öut all the times Kathleen, Rian, JJ and execs at LucasFilm have called us this shit. Lets see yöu dö it nöw.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on May 22, 2018 19:00:04 GMT
I am so sick of this shit. “Oh I didn’t like it fuck you and fire Kathleen Kennedy.” “ Oh a female droid fuck you.” You know what’s ruining Star Wars? The fans. Hmm... I like that guy. That vid is kinda related to in which he is evaluating disappointed/disrespected fans and YTers who want to boycott Solo. He thinks VIII is mediocre, VII is good and R1 is OK and likable tho... and he's gonna see Solo.
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And no one is pointing the finger at you. Read any Star Wars YouTube comment section and you'll find those comments. Having no regrets means that something you did is perfect? So wishing death on Rian Johnson is okay for a fanbase to do? That make sense. Did yöu read what I said andy? I fuckin said there are töxic peöple in the fanbase. I did nöt deny it. LEARN TÖ READ. The fuckin mövie makers are pöinting fingers at me. Höw many times dö I have tö pöint this öut tö yöu? Why döes all the blame fall ön the FEW, VERY FEW TÖXIC FANS and zerö ön the önes making the claims of sexism, racism, bigöted ect. And gö pöint öut the sexist, racist bigöted cömments tö me andy I sure has hell pöinted öut all the times Kathleen, Rian, JJ and execs at LucasFilm have called us this shit. Lets see yöu dö it nöw. Okay, did you read what I said? I said they're not pointing the finger at YOU. Your group as legitimate claims of the movie being shit. Its these assholes that they're talking about. Read the comment section of these videos.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on May 22, 2018 19:32:40 GMT
spoilerless review "Kathleen Kennedy should be embarrassed" Dat robot "Solo and Chewie are the only good things about this movie." probably better not to watch it (at least in the first few weeks)
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Post by griffith82 on May 22, 2018 19:39:08 GMT
spoilerless review "Kathleen Kennedy should be embarrassed" Dat robot "Solo and Chewie are the only good things about this movie." probably better not to watch it (at least in the first few weeks) It looks good to me so I’ll go see it.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on May 22, 2018 19:44:29 GMT
Hmm... I like that guy. That vid is kinda related to in which he is evaluating disappointed/disrespected fans and YTers who want to boycott Solo. He thinks VIII is mediocre, VII is good and R1 is OK and likable tho... and he's gonna see Solo. Anyone ever wondered that i wanted to be left alone. And that i am really sorry, not because i have to be, but I felt like shit. I hurt a friend because i am a Fuck up. I treated my buddies here like shit and I thought by disengaging the wounds would heal on both sites. Sry r. And I cannot say how sry i am up until this day h. You deserve a Lot bester
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Disney holds its own share of responsibility in "ruining" Star Wars. Bingo. Attempting to claim that the fans are 'ruining the franchise' is ridiculously naive. Disney has their own share of the blame, if not more so. As a matter of fact, we really wouldn't be in this situation if the movies we've been given thus far hadn't played it safe (TFA), shit on established characters (TLJ) or were marred by rough productions (Solo and Rogue One to a degree). Yes, some fans have been toxic, sucking the fun out of the party for everyone else. However, the people in charge of these movies only poured gasoline on the flames by claiming that those who did not like their movies are sexist jerks. For myself, it is a combination of both of these things. The endless discussions revolving around TLJ have become morbidly tiresome and I have grown ire for those who spark it back up (both those who liked it and hated it), and the movies we've been given just haven't done it for me. Barring Solo, which I have yet to see, Rogue One has been the only film pushed out that I thoroughly enjoyed. This has all culminated in a decreased interest in Star Wars, and I've been finding myself more content with watching the Originals rather than looking forward to future installments.
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Post by griffith82 on May 22, 2018 19:54:51 GMT
I am so sick of this shit. “Oh I didn’t like it fuck you and fire Kathleen Kennedy.” “ Oh a female droid fuck you.” You know what’s ruining Star Wars? The fans. As opposed to "Didn't like it? F*ck you, this is ART! You're just a racist/sexist/homophobic..." etc, etc? I don't intend to see Solo because TLJ took a ginormous dump on Luke Skywalker, and Disney (if not Kennedy herself) clearly doesn't give a sh*t about legacy characters save as cash-ins. Disney holds its own share of responsibility in "ruining" Star Wars. If you want to see Solo, fine. Enjoy! But movies are too expensive to attend when you're almost certainly not going to enjoy it. I don’t agree. It was time to pass the torch and nobody was dumped in imo.
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Post by Andrew Waples on May 22, 2018 20:15:54 GMT
Disney holds its own share of responsibility in "ruining" Star Wars. Bingo. Attempting to claim that the fans are 'ruining the franchise' is ridiculously naive. Disney has their own share of the blame, if not more so. As a matter of fact, we really wouldn't be in this situation if the movies we've been given thus far hadn't played it safe (TFA), shit on established characters (TLJ) or were marred by rough productions (Solo and Rogue One to a degree). Yes, some fans have been toxic, sucking the fun out of the party for everyone else. However, the people in charge of these movies only poured gasoline on the flames by claiming that those who did not like their movies are sexist jerks. For myself, it is a combination of both of these things. The endless discussions revolving around TLJ have become morbidly tiresome and I have grown ire for those who spark it back up (both those who liked it and hated it), and the movies we've been given just haven't done it for me. Barring Solo, which I have yet to see, Rogue One has been the only film pushed out that I thoroughly enjoyed. This has all culminated in a decreased interest in Star Wars, and I've been finding myself more content with watching the Originals rather than looking forward to future installments. I disagree it's more Lucasfilm, because Marvel is owned by Disney, just fyi. Point being, Marvel should be having the same problems as Lucasfilm.
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Post by colfoley on May 22, 2018 20:22:42 GMT
I can only speak for myself but I wouldn't let the fandom ruin things for me.
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Post by masseffectfanforlife on May 22, 2018 20:54:38 GMT
Might not see Solo: A Star Wars Story, not because of the movie itself, but for all the toxic BS that almost entirely drained the excitement out of me. It's a sad twisted fandom now. You're either a cool, respectable fan on the negative side of things, or your a shill/sheep, and no longer have a relevant position in the Star Wars fan community. Smh Star Wars fandom in general is getting out of hand. It's getting so bad with the horrible toxicity of the fanbase, I sometimes wonder if want to be a Star Wars fan anymore. It's come to that. It's reached that point. Despite loving Star Wars for years, I don't think I want to be part of a community with toxic people. Shill this, shill that. It's everywhere. Everywhere I see accusations that this is a shill/SJW Feminist movement. They say that Disney is ruining Star Wars. On the contrary, these horrible example of fans are ruining SW for me. Has anyone seen the "Want to see it" percentage for Solo on Rotten Tomatoes? Now I really can't take that site seriously. I can't see the legitimacy for this. It's ridiculous. This fandom is starting to either make me sick to my stomach, or fall on the floor laughing. I can't take people like that seriously. For one, it's the internet, and no one in their right mind would be just as irrational and/or pathetic in person. It's possible, though. Also no matter how many of you say "Well, they have a legitimate reason for being mad," I'm not taking it seriously. Sorry not sorry. It's one thing to have actually criticisms for a movie, but it's another to act the way some of these fans do online. The toxic fans are bringing this all down a horrible slope. I don't know if it's because Star Wars is not how they want it to be (meaning they hold the Original Trilogy close to them in a very unhealthy way), or if they're doing this for amusement to pluck the nerves of other people online (like trolls). I'm not talking about fans who may have legitimately negative things to say about these movies. I-am-talking-about the irrational fans who have become a witch hunting poison in the fandom, who justify and shout out things (like a twisted regime) like "STAR WARS IS DEAD," "DISNEY RUINED STAR WARS," "THEY RAPED MY CHILDHOOD," "YOU'RE A SHILL/SHEEP," "YOU'RE A HATER," "YOU'RE NOT A REAL FAN," blah blah f**king blah. The list goes on. I thought it was bad before these new movies. Two insane sides (both negative & positive) in civil war, and attack those with an opposing. Leave the politics in the movies, not the fandom. They cover the internet like a plague. No civil discussion without attacks. I'm sorry, but no one else is killing Star Wars except for that part of the fandom. Their horrible behavior will become so bad, it'll go beyond the internet, and grow further IRL (in person), and sooner or later people will just go away from Star Wars because a lot of fans are just so terrible. If this doesn't stop, Star Wars will eventually die. How's that for cruel irony? First let me say that I think the idea öf the fandöm being "töxic" is överstated. Yes there has been peöple whö are töxic in this fandöm, just like any öther, but they are a very small part that för söme reasön always gets the möst attentiön. The fans did nöt make the fandöm "töxic" but the mövie makers did. Why was this nöt a pröblem with the prequels? Sure peöple göt intö heated arguments aböut them but it was never "töxic". The reasön is that as I've been saying again and again, the mövie makers have a very clear pölitical agenda they want tö push. And then when peöple criticize it they cöme öut and say that they are just racist, sexiest, bigöts, man babies, ect. Why dö yöu önly call öut the fans för their "toxic" behavior and nöt the mövie makers? The vastly huge percentage öf peöple whö hated the Last Jedi had legitimate pröblems with the störy, the characters, the pacing, the jökes. And then thöse peöple are called hörrible things by the mövie makers. Rain fuckin Johnsön has said that he has zerö regrets aböut it and nöne of the criticism is fair. Really? Sö the mövie is perfect? I am fuckin tried öf the peöple whö call us töxic för simply pöinting öut the fact that the mövie has HUGE plothöles, the characters are flawed, ect. Keep ön ignöring the agenda these peöple have. They actually say it in interviews. And I am the bad guy whö pöints it öut. I'm the öne making it "töxic" yeah ökay. ....What part of my comment did you not understand? Are you ignorant, or just plain stupid? I__am___NOT__talking___about___people__with___legitimate___criticisms towards these movies. You seem to be reading only what you want to read. If you dislike the movies, that's fine. If you do not like Rian Johnson, that's fine. I am talking about the fans who are horribly irrational, throwing death threats to people involved, and calling civil people who liking the movie (who are just trying to be honest about their opinion) shills, or sheep. The same goes for people who call others haters. It's discouraging, and it's a blight on the fanbase. I personally like the new movies, and that is MY opinion. If you dislike them, that is on you.
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Post by Heimdall on May 22, 2018 20:56:00 GMT
As opposed to "Didn't like it? F*ck you, this is ART! You're just a racist/sexist/homophobic..." etc, etc? I don't intend to see Solo because TLJ took a ginormous dump on Luke Skywalker, and Disney (if not Kennedy herself) clearly doesn't give a sh*t about legacy characters save as cash-ins. Disney holds its own share of responsibility in "ruining" Star Wars. If you want to see Solo, fine. Enjoy! But movies are too expensive to attend when you're almost certainly not going to enjoy it. I don’t agree. It was time to pass the torch and nobody was dumped in imo. I’m fine with passing the torch, I just don’t think they did it very well.
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