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Post by BloodOfShiagur on Jan 6, 2018 14:50:53 GMT
MEA has some relationships for the PC that are very interesting, well written, not tooo much and Reyes is one of them. I playing always with Scott and every time it is not easy to do not takeing the Romance Dialogue s. Both are a nice couple. In particular when Ryder accepts Reyes and do not want to change him. However, the lack of screentime for Scott Male Romance is very disappointing. This romance miss a little bit the question where exactly this romance will go. But I have this question in every romance from Bioware. PC and LI never saying what they are imagine for a life together. ME3 did it but this could be better. I am wondering how it will work with Scott and Reyes? Is Scott moving mainly on Kadara? Reyes moves on the Tempest? Is Scott involved by the Collective, helps in some cases? I don't really think the Reyes/Ryder affair, would be a planning a future together one even at the very end of MEA. At that point it may not even need one, since both of them have lots of pathfinding, building shady organizations and other important stuff ahead of them. They simply went for it and either it will lead somewhere or not, it's very much in the spirit of the AI, after all I can very well imagine each of them mainly doing their own thing while they always make sure to meet on the way, support each other and sometimes take a space adventure no one will ever believe, for years to come, actually. For Ryder and the Collective, I'd like a variety of options, including Ryder getting minorly (or hell, why not majorly) corrupted, whereupon he and Reyes would make a shady power couple, committing all sorts of illicit or semi-legit exploits together. There's also this, or course Ryder and the Shadow-brokery org rised together and assumed a great deal of power over Heleus. That would be a great ending to the tale, and some really cool RP options, should any hypothetical sequel focus on the internal politics stuff more. Hmm. He’d just reveal that sike!, it wasn’t the real Charlatan after all? Or if the Collective fell over that easily, he’d just start anew with something else? There’s a reason though that nothing of the sort happened, I guess. I feel a bit bad at laughing at the idea of a frustrated and secretly enraged Reyes trying to control his temper at Ryder who hasn’t got an idea. That would make sense. Keeping the Collective together, disconcerting Sloane and the like. I don't think if that would count as the Collective falling easily, it would be just like the unfavorable High noon result. Do they fall easily in that case? BUt what else do you think he'd try if the Collecive proved to be a hopeless failure? Collective 2.0? Striking out on his own? Yeah, there's something funny abut it But maybe he'd just dump poor Ryder, who wouldn't realize what happened till by some mishap Reyes got revealed one day. A fake-Charlatan squaddie? Eeeh… It would cheapen the Collective’s reputation if people thought that the mysterious Charlatan was suddenly serving as an Initiative lapdog on Ryder’s ship, I think. It would also mean that Ryder would allow Reyes to have his fingers on Initiative’s all missions by way of this guy who’d be there surely recording every bit of information passed. Ryder surely won’t give all of it up to Reyes. Separate interests, to a decree, after all. No, a Collective agent squaddie, probably not publicly known to work for them, at least for some mission that could be of interest to the Collective, sort of a way for Ryder and the Collective to work together. But I admit it would pretty much hinge on Reyes not attempting to go too far with the info gathering and promoting of his own interests by this means. The Charlatan himself can't be seen working for the AI, of course. You're right about the separate interests, though, unless at some point they go the shady power couple way, or the RP options would allow for some branching in regards of supporting/ trying to keep down the Collective, in that case the amount of common interests would grow. He said something pretty many times, ya know. Besides, Ryder would be fine, they’d have the dust brushed off them and be offered profuse apologies. Oh, well... yeah, he kind of did. Depends on what would be in the box, I think. We can't be sure what he was hoping to entrap like this, maybe Ryder would be concussed for days. Heheee, why am I imagining the salarian being made to apologize all kindergarten like, while he stubbornly refuses to do so because it was Ryder's fault? I think a fuck-up on that level is pretty lol-some. Maybe the devs will even take a moment to reflect on how to write decent lore for a RPG. I don't think they know they should do anything like that, though. They apparently haven't noticed. Heehee. “Choose topic: crop rotation.” What are the chances that's where Ryder would have Reyes a bit speechless for once? I said it already, because he was waiting for the actual target to come and start pushing. Who well might have been the Charlatan, who knows. Or Mr. Sniper Guy so that the Salarian would get a promotion. He must've been sure the target was of the persistent sort, then. Could narrow down the list of possible targets Ah, internal Collective power struggles, that sounds cool. You can't expect all those shady agents to play nice and not try to climb ranks, after all. (Yeah, I portent more Collective power struggles at time goes by). But gunning for Mr. Sniper Guy himself? That would be shifty of the salarian indeed. Now, imagine if there was a tiny quest in the base - help a salarian get some random Collective agent entrapped, or just watch him pushing the button without interfering, so that the trap takes its course. Then, during High noon when it gets all dramatic, Sloane gets flattened by a box falling off the ceiling because your actions caused the change of no1 man. Kadara is exile / native Angara interest first and foremost. The Initiative mightn’t like it, but I don’t think they couldn’t dress it as if the Collective were encroaching. They must also pay lip service to the Collective-Nexus alliance. Yeah, but if it's so, I guess there'll be quite some competition between the Port and the outpost soon, since all the AI's interest will be focused in making a hub there. “Not having a clue” isn’t really what I’ve been meaning, more like turning a blind eye. It’s been months since I RPd that so what ever the fuck, I don’t remember what even happens. What can I say, it’s all about voices for me. The French VA just isn’t all that beguiling, is all. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (And to be completely honest, my ear sort of started getting caught at English Reyes’ not-real accent, suddenly.) For the .txt, there’s three of them, each insanely hard to guess at. Yeah, but it's really not being naive. It's more like letting one's piratey boyfriend do as he pleases. Noothing happens as far as I know, anyway, Ryder would need way more opportunities get properly starry eyed/unconcerned/ whatever else about Reyes' business. So Vetra might've had a chance after all, if only Reyes's translator glitched a bit... To be completely honest as well, I was never that enthusiastic about the accent. To me, it's all about character and RP importance. Well, after a lot of terrible mental strain I still only managed to come up with two. (Unless the third one is Bob ) True, but it’s still less likely if the Collective are half-way decent about running the town. If Keema was the direct target, Reyes might protect her- unless there were definite advantages to letting the new player depose her. He’d need to be sure at least that he could control the new person as well or better as he can Keema. It could easily be about power, and not being dissatisfied with how the Collective runs the place, especially if the Port grows to be an important hub. Agreed about him protecting Keema, actually it wouldn't make the Collective look very good if he didn't, considering it's knows she's allied to them. I was thinking of it as a good possible way to get Keema replaced in case she gets too dangerous, but now that I think of it there would be too many disadvantages to it. Being frustrated and jittery is the default state of being for a Salarian, so nothing gained there. (Concept: a super chill Salarian squaddie. With biotics. In ME1 they claimed that several Salarians got into zen due to its resemblance to their own beliefs – an older guy/gal that’s at peace with the universe. Would replace in Ryder’s squad any of the trash humans or Jaal the entire Angaran species.) Maybe jittery, but frustrated? But what about bringing the salarian to the verge of mental breakdown or ruining his prospects of capturing his target, alternatively proving that his great invention works as intended? That sounds a bit like biotic monk-style Raeka. And yep, it would be cool ad new. Now I'm not sure if I'd prefer that or a chill Turian. A home on Meridian is pretty likely if Ryder is interested. Liam mentions the sign up for housing. Meridian is nice for a vacation but living there permanently? Nah, there are better non-artificial planets. He also didn't know for sure Ryder would not show up. It's always good to have more than one plan. Lol, yes not being mean like that but doing/saying enough things he disapproves of. It doesn't have to disappear as long as the members stay and don't leave because of this temporary defeat. He could stay the independent smuggler and make money while a new plan is being hatched. Of course they have to be careful out in the badlands and should look for new hideouts. True, but it would require lots of foresight to bring a surrogate to deploy in case some unexpected shit went down. Although it may not be unlike Reyes after all. Still the same question, imo, how would that do anything other than make Reyes less chill? It would be great in case there was more of divergent paths style to this whole Collective/Outcasts thing. Wouldn't have to be plain choosing a side and working for them, more like acting more in favor of one of them. Sure, but it would be hard to hold on to, with the agents being hunted at every turn and the town on alert, it would be hard for him to play the part of the Charlatan when the probability he'll be discovered would be much higher. I thought something like blueprints. And then the Jardaan had to leave quickly and left them there, thinking they'll never be discovered. Ryder knows him better than before now and should be able to see the signs . Yeah, but blueprints for an allegedly long since finished species? The Jardaan were messy ones, weren't they? But the real question is, will Ryder care? After the activation of Meridian everythings is blooming in the ending video. So maybe this is all that was needed. If not, there are other planets or they can build greenhouses. Food and drink production should be profitable, good for negotiations and makes them more independent as well. Can also improve their public image. First Andromeda whiskey, sponsored by the Collective. What a way to impress the general public Kadara should be better for crops than any of the other planet from the looks of it. Yeah that’s not going to happen. At most Jensen can prevent some smaller disaster, but obviously he can’t destroy the Illuminati, so we know in advance he’ll fail at that. I see the inadvertedly making things worse (destabilizing the Illuminati to make them ripe for Bob to take out) happening potentially, but that’s about it for causing actual trouble for the powers that be. Maybe he’ll save a smattering of people while dying largely in vain. Maybe a good-ish ending would be succeeding at a relatively small thing (like preventing some global anti-aug segregation from taking place), while seemingly dying. BUT! if you played your cards right, he’d secretly survive and be able to run off to safety. He would’ve managed to score a decent victory, so he’d have some cause for satisfaction – but he also would’ve come to a realization that he won’t be the one to topple the Illuminati, making peace with all that, and finally allowing himself to save himself at least (a good lesson for anyone to learn). And then he and Pritchard and their kittens could retire together to somewhere secluded and warm. How’s that? (And this ending would depend on Jensen saving Frank during the Megan/Frank choice. ) Anything's possible There must be some closure to Jensen's story, after all. Yep, he probably won't be able to stop the Illuminati forever, but heroic self-sacrifice or not, I'd expect him to make some difference before his story is over. I wouldn't expect him to stop before he achieves something, even though he'll have to make his peace with the situation eventually, as you suggested. (Speaking of destroying the Illuminati, I always wondered why Darrow didn't try. He had the means, and if he mde sure there was no one to control people for a while, no kill switches would be necessary). If he dies in vain it will be pretty shitty, though. Several levels below any ME3 ending, Shepard did the job, at least. The seemingly dying thing would be cool, and explain where Jensen has disappeared in the games than are set in later times. Don't know about it depending on the Frank Megan choice, though, it would probably have to be something else. Even though Pritchard coming to last-minute rescue would make for any amazing ending, I admit. But maybe even a totally unworthy asshole Jensen that didn't choose Pritchard should have the opportunity to retire somewhere, the only difference would be that he'd be lonely and Pritchardless for the rest of his days, and maybe the kittens won't want to make friends with him. Not as far as I know; he babbled something about her dying during the battle, that’s it. Maybe he never actually got her. He had the same body all the time, you can see the fake-muscle peeking from his shirt collar during the earlier scenes. Zhao merely had him hid among the other mass-produced items for convenience (see how crass compared to how Sarif custom-made Jensen by hand? ). You have fucked up definitions for cute, dude. If Megan had kids, I suppose they’d utilize any contacts she’d have. It’s getting to be pretty desperate at that point of the timeline anyway. Lucky to be among the small circles. I don't know, I think he'd sound a bit different if Jensen just ruined his chances, I think I heard something along the lines of "I lost Yelena because of you" or the like But it still doesn't have to imply they fucked. Maybe they were just partial on one another. Ok, I guess, I never noticed that, but it still looks strange. Did the TYM get cheap about providing him with skin or something? What use can there be in it, save for the fact that you can hide him among figurines and play peekaboo? Well, as the classic puts it, "Hell you know that's how I get along" Sure, but I have a hard time picturing Megan's kid as a secretary. Or anything other than a scientist, or generally anything in position of at least some authority, really. But maybe it's only fitting, considering Megan's own position in the world may get worse along the way. I meant Mutual Assured Destruction (aka MAD) as in the Cold War doctrine. If one fires a nuke, figuratively speaking, the other will immediately retaliate with another just as bad, and both lose. Ah, forgive my ignorance. It very much resembles it, yep. But it had to come to this eventually. The only question is where does it leave us edit: spoilered these for Zitrus ' sake who's still reading: It’s longer than that, I just powered past sections and entire chapters that didn’t have Pritchard. The train section that I passed with “he does that and Gunther has a cameo” went on and on, for example, with lots of characters, dramatic deaths and combat. I suspect they may have intended to start the game with the Alaska facility, since it’s definitely structured like a game would. The way the book opens would translate perfectly to a cutscene shown from Jensen’s POV. The Alaska part would make for a decent starting out mission, and Stacks is the only part that would be harder to implement, since Jensen always works alone in the games. They must have changed plans at some point, maybe at the time Square Enix went mad and decided to invest in the “Deus Ex Universe” nonsense. The book was also released at the same time as the game, so not even die-hard fans could’ve prepared themselves by reading it in advance. I probably got too protective of Pritchard. But I think he ought to have been comforted afterwards by Jensen and Jensen should’ve vowed to make sure he’d be safe (because of all the danger he put him in), and at the very least made sure Pritchard would have a place to go to before fucking off to where ever it was that he went from Detroit. And Jensen should’ve told Quinn and Vega that they’re applying just the kind of asshole methods that make the Illuminati the bad guys (aka holding Jensen’s friends hostage and threatening to kill them). That tells oodles about them and none of it complimentary! I think you might not have paid enough attention during Jensen and Eliza’s two conversations. Something new rather than repeating what she said would’ve been meet, however. He’s an author, he should make his own material (meaning Swallow). The Collective will totes – well, let’s let you see what you think, playing the game. I doubt they’d make Jensen work for Sarif again. Jensen hardly can benefit from his contacts, unless it all goes so bad for the augs that he desperately needs a rich protector to just stay alive (but at that point, Sarif himself might be fucked too). I know I’ve talked about how cool it would be if Pritchard and Malik came back, but on the other hand, that’s a bit too convenient and cute. Each person going their own way makes more sense. No happy reunions, basically. Although with Pritchard, there’d be certain sense if he came by again, but that may just be my partiality speaking; thematically the sad and unhappy ending to System Rift is just as well as a final appearance for Pritchard, and for Jensen retreating to his sad loner thing w/o friendly human contacts. Sarif will likely become increasingly irrelevant, eventually probably quietly retiring to his own private life, after all the hopes for mechanical augs becoming the new humanity die out. -|NO FUTURE|- Of course, the non-Pritchard section are unimportant The Alaska part would actually be great as a started mission, less power, running away and tramping around in wilderness, yey for that. I think Stacks would become the started character that tags along, does a thing or two and then gets killed, so he wouldn't be Jensen's concern for long. Hell, he even ends up like that in the book, just not before he prompts lot of Jensen and Pritchard cool break-in stuff. (btw isn't it interesting that my grammar correction recognizes Jensen but not Pritchard? ). Heehee, I don't know, I have a feeling that if Jensen were to vow something like that, flustered Pritchard would just snark back at him (it might go with how their relationship is portrayed, though, with all those wasted chances at bonding. Maybe they considered it necessary for their own security and for the sake of making an entrance, they might not have had any real intentions of harming Pritchard, but Jensen commenting on the situation sounds sensible. It's actually strange that he doesn't complain about it, and it all eager to start working with the guys who find this cool. Am I obviously missing something here? I think the author might've just wanted to prove he knew the game But there's always room for something new and there's a chance to play Jensen as the non quoting-type (*something something, death and taxes, Confucius. That must be my favorite scene in the DX universe ) But Sarif is still kind of in the game, unless it's made clear further in MD that he's ultimately screwed. He's resourceful enough to take care of himself and if he doesn't get all broken about things going to shit (he seems to be weathering it in MD) he might survive. At which case, he might remember he needs security, or someone to guard his doors or shit, and that there's this one guy he spent way too much money on getting augmented. Or maybe Jensen could work with him in some way, rather than for him. It would depend on what the sequel brings. I still think Pritchard is too important to disappear, I can't imagine him being gone forever from the plotno more than Sarif. Something about that wouldn't feel right. But you may be right about Malik. There's quite a chance we'll not get to see her again, she wasn't that essential and she can be dead. I can’t recall a single instance of Jensen whining. For the original point, if you hate the side quests and yet can't not do them, then I guess the game's just not to your liking on than front, no can do. Atm I hate all games and am tired of everything, I have no recommendations. Ok, maybe it's me whining But it's not like I hate the quests, if I hated them nothing will force me to do them. I was just saying there doesn't seem to be any right solution, or sometimes even a logical reason to get involved but that's not a real complaint. There's no need to feel comfortable all the time playing a game with choices. I want details on Jensen’s trash bin situation. What did you do to him? Construct an elaborate death trap? Is he gonna be okay? Consumable revolver, wut? It’s just a normal revolver, possibly overpowered for a starting gun, but there’s nothing wrong with it as such, probably. Also the guns from the packs won’t expire, that’s only consumables (like health items) and Praxis kits. Have a look at least. Also Zitrus does Jensen do something special if you sit through Eliza's entire news cycle on the couch on the first morning? I got tired pretty soon and had him stop. Lol if they put in some reward for watching all of the propaganda. It happened during the Golden ticket quest, when I decided it's way too lame to get into the registration office through the fucking from door in plain view of the guard and the cameras, and that I'd go through the vent. An hour or more of desperate attempts to pile four thrash bins on top of each other so that I could enter it ensued. There were thrash bins flying all over the place, they broke the car's windshield and a hydrant while the policewoman standing right there was losing her shit about Jensen illegally using augs (but who cares, right, those guys are not Czech police anyway, they are Russian mafia members which sneakily took over the institution once known as Czech police). Jensen got shot several times when a thrash bin hit one of the pretenders, and the whole scene reached the heights of hilarity when Jensen fell down from his shaky construction once again and landed on the ground, with a thrash bin cartoonishly bouncing off his head. He's gonna be ok, he's just a bit dizzy. And doesn't want to come close to a thrash bin for a while. Ok, that doesn't sound as bad, I though all the stuff was one-time. Jensen surely hasn's spent all this time without a decent revolver anyway.Thanks for the tip. A "Massively Brainwashed" achievement. I can see it already (hmm, why have I suddenly remembered the Courier threatening his brain he'll watch lots of TV?) Yes, at the very end. This one. Yess, that's the one, thanks I wonder why it's misnamed in the credits. He has to save water. He also doesn't watch TV again, except in the dlc. Oh, he eats them later. Try again when you return to Prague from your first assignment outside the city. With a fancy flat like that? I don't think Jensen is broke enough not to be able to afford a shower. Whaaat, no TV? So the news don't change like they do in HR? Oh, there will be a chance to eat cereals? I should save some whiskey to wash it down then Indeed, this procedure doesn't do any good for their lifespan in any case. Hehe, I had the EMP shield as well, I was glad. I've looked a bit and the signs in the streets are all in English. There's a tavern with a correct name but they should have made it "Taverne", would have been so easy. And I found a beer brand (of course) which translates to Strongest Beer with the slogan strongest beer in the world and something else I can't make out. Bit of a silly name lol. The city feels very tiny, too.
But I still didn't like having to attack them, even though it was probably mercy killing. Hehe, I was also glad I didn't have to run around like an idiot. Electricity? Bitch, please, it wen like that for all the last mission It's very easy to make little changes but they still don't bother. Strongest beer There's a shop called "a special roach" in Prague among other things, but all the beers have weird foreign names, which is odd beyond belief.
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Post by orchid on Jan 8, 2018 11:33:41 GMT
Anyone else hear the news story about world’s most expensive vodka bottle being stolen and later found empty at a construction site, and think of ~*the most magical video game date night ever*~? Aww. Did you keep the saves in case you want to revisit the game ione day? I usually do, even if I don't end up playing the chars again after all. Nope, everything’s gone. I have my pretty boi Ryder’s face codes scribbled on a paper somewhere, though. I usually delete everything, as I perpetually want to get rid of clutter. Although actually, I probably have that entire folder where the saves were copied to an external hd. Are you people still playing this game? After the activation of Meridian everythings is blooming in the ending video. So maybe this is all that was needed. If not, there are other planets or they can build greenhouses. Food and drink production should be profitable, good for negotiations and makes them more independent as well. Can also improve their public image. Naah. Those are some lame ass Heleus crops. What are they good for? Also the moonshiner Turian will need dextro-crops regardless. Good points about using Kadara’s bounty. The desert planets don’t feel like they’d become paradises even with Meridian magic. This light looks pretty big, I don't know if cracks are enough. They do have those generators, so maybe it's some kind of lamp. No, there are no holes, it's empty, we're not supposed to see the inside of the mountain anyway and there are surely more tunnels we don't get to see either. Those caves must be big. Well, if it’s a lamp, there’d be a physical lamp. The lightsources I’ve checked with flycam (not this one) were positioned in cracks of stone, clearly stimulating natural sunlight. Besides, a crevasse would in most cases be larger than a lamp. More important, a huge open whole opening up to the skies would be really easy to spot. I can very well imagine each of them mainly doing their own thing while they always make sure to meet on the way, support each other and sometimes take a space adventure no one will ever believe, for years to come, actually. Years is a long time, surely some talks on commitment must occur? That counts as plans, even if vague. Otherwise true, the relationship is still young at the end of MEA. Rushing prematurely into something, like Gil’s weird baby thing would be unfitting for Reyes and Ryder. I don't think if that would count as the Collective falling easily, it would be just like the unfavorable High noon result. Do they fall easily in that case? BUt what else do you think he'd try if the Collecive proved to be a hopeless failure? Collective 2.0? Striking out on his own? Yeah, there's something funny abut it But maybe he'd just dump poor Ryder, who wouldn't realize what happened till by some mishap Reyes got revealed one day. In what case exactly? In the actual pro-Sloane narrative they do. Without the real Charlatan still un-exposed, who knows. It would be a huge blow regardless. Maybe he’d try something similar but different. The merc thing? He’d still have some resources he might try to rescue before abandoning the Collective, and more permanent contacts as well. He might lay low for a while though, although that would give other operations advantage over him. Maybe he’d even stay on Kadara, since in this scenario he wouldn’t be compromised. Think he’d be spiteful enough for that? You're right about the separate interests, though, unless at some point they go the shady power couple way, or the RP options would allow for some branching in regards of supporting/ trying to keep down the Collective, in that case the amount of common interests would grow. Ah that’d be great. But the nature of Ryder’s own mission might have changed at that point, if they had more power and say in things. That of course would also require extra caution. Hm, wonder how much trust here would ultimately be between them in the power couple scenario. For the squaddie, unless it was someone really good, I’d still prefer Reyes coming over for a short while to join on a quest. Heehee. “Choose topic: crop rotation.” What are the chances that's where Ryder would have Reyes a bit speechless for once? Depends on how rude he’d consider it that Ryder thinks he needs a lecture on agriculture. Now, imagine if there was a tiny quest in the base - help a salarian get some random Collective agent entrapped, or just watch him pushing the button without interfering, so that the trap takes its course. Then, during High noon when it gets all dramatic, Sloane gets flattened by a box falling off the ceiling because your actions caused the change of no1 man. Lmao at Sloane getting boxed. What an amazing quest idea. That’d make for one hell of an easter egg. See, the whole contraption was a competing High Noon idea by the Salarian, who was trying to convince the Charlatan that Sloane should be disposed of like that, rather than by sniper fire. For some unknowable reason, his proposition lost. Yeah, but it's really not being naive. It's more like letting one's piratey boyfriend do as he pleases. So Vetra might've had a chance after all, if only Reyes's translator glitched a bit... To be completely honest as well, I was never that enthusiastic about the accent. To me, it's all about character and RP importance. Well, after a lot of terrible mental strain I still only managed to come up with two. (Unless the third one is Bob ) What’s your argument here, other than apparently dissing my RP style? The romance path allows for different approaches, that counts as a plus to me. Sadly, English Vetra couldn’t quite cut it. Between Anglo-Vetra and French-Reyes, it would probably just be an even earlier shutting down the game. Accent aside, I did like Reyes’ voice, even though it wasn’t anything incredible. Bob?? You know perfectly well I loathe him. But what about bringing the salarian to the verge of mental breakdown or ruining his prospects of capturing his target, alternatively proving that his great invention works as intended? That sounds a bit like biotic monk-style Raeka. And yep, it would be cool ad new. Now I'm not sure if I'd prefer that or a chill Turian. Again with the horrible scenarios with you. Raeka was good, but not yet chill enough. Turians are hard to beat, chill or stick-up-the-ass variety, so I’ll always vote for them. Yet Salarians have been rarer. There’d be inevitable Mordin comparisons, but a chill, biotics focuses, non-scientist Salarian would be enough of a character of their own. Meridian is nice for a vacation but living there permanently? Nah, there are better non-artificial planets. Meridian strikes me as the safest location on the cluster, especially considering that the Khett may return soon. On the other hand, it also feels a bit like a death trap. I’d feel claustrophobic in there. But Reyes would appreciate an access to a nice little apartment there as well, though, and visiting his partner would make for a nice little cover for when he wants to do things at the Meridian.
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Post by starlord on Jan 9, 2018 2:14:08 GMT
Yay! This thread is still active!!! Life in university comes at you fast, but thankfully, I'm free of most of my responsibilities for the time being (yes!) Can I just say I fucking hope that Ryder returns in Andromeda 2??? It would be really sad to see characters with potential go to the shitter. Also, I'm back working on my fanfictions- I'm just getting some inspo by replaying Mass Effect again (going for Thane for the first time ever!!) and I'm super stoked. Should probably throw myself into ME3, since Echoes in Neon is set in ME3, but I need to make sure I have that ME2/ME3 gritty feel down. Also as a creature of habit, Reyes will be on his spy shit once again because I'm trash. Also if I can go off topic, I'm dying to iron out my Life is Strange: BTS one shot with Rachel Amber. I've been rewatching Twin Peaks after I finished the finale, and I need more angst T-T. I need to get back in the swing of writing things soon, especially since I'm submitting to a writing contest. PPS. Can I express my confusion at the fact that Mass Effect DLC is still full priced? Like I've still not played Overlord, Lair of the Shadow Broker, Omega, and Arrival, and I need more Shep and the gang in my life, but why're they so expensive still???? media.giphy.com/media/s93TL62lMy7cI/giphy.gif
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Post by Zitrus on Jan 9, 2018 18:42:56 GMT
True, but it would require lots of foresight to bring a surrogate to deploy in case some unexpected shit went down. Although it may not be unlike Reyes after all. Still the same question, imo, how would that do anything other than make Reyes less chill? It would be great in case there was more of divergent paths style to this whole Collective/Outcasts thing. Wouldn't have to be plain choosing a side and working for them, more like acting more in favor of one of them. Sure, but it would be hard to hold on to, with the agents being hunted at every turn and the town on alert, it would be hard for him to play the part of the Charlatan when the probability he'll be discovered would be much higher. It would show he's not willing to work with them as openly as he is now. It's just a little idea. Hm yes. And then if you talk to them they could change the dialogue a bit depending if they like your actions or not. They have to play it a bit smarter than before until the dust settles. Perhaps make them think they fled the city. I think he'll manage it to fool them as long as they don't find his super secret datapads. Yeah, but blueprints for an allegedly long since finished species? The Jardaan were messy ones, weren't they? But the real question is, will Ryder care? Why should they throw them away though, one of their accomplishments? That depends on the Ryder but at least it's a warning. Anyone else hear the news story about world’s most expensive vodka bottle being stolen and later found empty at a construction site, and think of ~*the most magical video game date night ever*~? Haha. No, I only read that it was stolen and then I didn't see a follow-up to it. Now, what did Reyes do with the bottle? Kept it as a memento? Left it there empty? Smuggled the empty bottle back into Sloane's supply as a prank? Are you people still playing this game? No, other games want to be played too^^ but it's still installed. Naah. Those are some lame ass Heleus crops. What are they good for? Also the moonshiner Turian will need dextro-crops regardless. Good points about using Kadara’s bounty. The desert planets don’t feel like they’d become paradises even with Meridian magic. Maybe they can be eaten . What I meant though was with the activation it looks like it's easier now to grow plants they brought with them, that the soil is more fertile. Well, if it’s a lamp, there’d be a physical lamp. The lightsources I’ve checked with flycam (not this one) were positioned in cracks of stone, clearly stimulating natural sunlight. Besides, a crevasse would in most cases be larger than a lamp. More important, a huge open whole opening up to the skies would be really easy to spot. True. It would be very hard to get one up there lol, so the sun it is. Actually that's nice, that they have a bit of sunshine. Meridian is nice for a vacation but living there permanently? Nah, there are better non-artificial planets. Meridian strikes me as the safest location on the cluster, especially considering that the Khett may return soon. On the other hand, it also feels a bit like a death trap. I’d feel claustrophobic in there. But Reyes would appreciate an access to a nice little apartment there as well, though, and visiting his partner would make for a nice little cover for when he wants to do things at the Meridian. It's a bit strange there for sure. They are also alluding to secrets within. Yay! This thread is still active!!! Hey there! It is . Oh, cuddly kittens. Is the cute pup your dog? With a fancy flat like that? I don't think Jensen is broke enough not to be able to afford a shower. Whaaat, no TV? So the news don't change like they do in HR? Not broke but maybe they have a limited supply^^. If you save in his home the location says "poor apartment". You can watch TV and the news change but he won't sit on the couch again. There's a shop called "a special roach" in Prague among other things, but all the beers have weird foreign names, which is odd beyond belief. Lol, it's not a restaurant, is it? I forgot to look at the bottles but maybe it's better they didn't invent Czech beer names if they've given the shops such crazy names . MD has one rather largish seeming side quest cluster that I didn’t do before and am not doing on this pt either, since it would demand associating with criminals in a way that I just can’t see Adam doing. I’m okay with that though, since I assume you can just refuse to return the favor they’ll be demanding later, but even so I can’t see why anyone ever would choose that route, since you can just do the preliminary quest without even interacting with them in the first place. I did this quest chain. I talked to them because obviously Koller has trouble with them and I wanted to find out what is really going on and maybe try to fix it and also see what they're up to. So I decided to play along and be careful. You get 2 missions and how you handle them has consequences. There's a little bug later on with an email that shows up even if it doesn't make sense.
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Post by starlord on Jan 9, 2018 19:38:46 GMT
Zitrus I honestly feel that Bioware left this game to die after Andromeda belly flopped. Not that I blame them, but I feel that they should've gambled by listening to plater concerns and what we liked and created a bitching DLC. Would it have been risky? Absolutely. But it isn't like Bioware has never done bomb ass DLC that blow it out of the park like Tresspasser and Citadel (I know its fan service, but Grunt's Hangover scene, Garrus's LI scenes, and Uncle Urdnot was worth the price alone.) But I guess EA wasn't going to take chances.
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Post by BloodOfShiagur on Jan 9, 2018 20:11:24 GMT
Ninja'd by Zitrus!! Oh, good old times are back! Yay! This thread is still active!!! Life in university comes at you fast, but thankfully, I'm free of most of my responsibilities for the time being (yes!) Can I just say I fucking hope that Ryder returns in Andromeda 2??? It would be really sad to see characters with potential go to the shitter. Also, I'm back working on my fanfictions- I'm just getting some inspo by replaying Mass Effect again (going for Thane for the first time ever!!) and I'm super stoked. Should probably throw myself into ME3, since Echoes in Neon is set in ME3, but I need to make sure I have that ME2/ME3 gritty feel down. Also as a creature of habit, Reyes will be on his spy shit once again because I'm trash. Also if I can go off topic, I'm dying to iron out my Life is Strange: BTS one shot with Rachel Amber. I've been rewatching Twin Peaks after I finished the finale, and I need more angst T-T. I need to get back in the swing of writing things soon, especially since I'm submitting to a writing contest. PPS. Can I express my confusion at the fact that Mass Effect DLC is still full priced? Like I've still not played Overlord, Lair of the Shadow Broker, Omega, and Arrival, and I need more Shep and the gang in my life, but why're they so expensive still???? Hey again! *waves* I thought you were gone altogether. Yep, still going I said that very carefully, I don't want to kill the thread You got everything done so early? You don't know how much I envy you, I'll be at it... well, probably till September with all that studious enthusiasm and zeal of mine that just can't be contained. At this point I have all but lost hope there will be a MEA2 at all, and if it is, that it won't be set several hundred years after MEA1 or run on some other cheap escape strategy. If a miracle happens and I'm wrong, it would be downright criminal if Reyes weren't in it as the character who has most potential to grow into something genuinely intriguing, a shadow broker, a plot-important player and the shadiest of LIs. They can't waste a character like that if the story continues, besides, he got some attention in MEA, it's not like people wouldn't notice he's gone. Lol, seriously? How long since the OT released? Bu is't weird, since ME2 with DLC was offred free a couple of moths or so ago. Anyone else hear the news story about world’s most expensive vodka bottle being stolen and later found empty at a construction site, and think of ~*the most magical video game date night ever*~? Oo, that looks someone was inspired. But, hell, who wouldn't want to steal a bottle of alcoholic treasure and drink it somewhere secluded. There's no denying it, Reyes is living the dream, so it's only natural people follow Btw, the article itself is pure gold. "I don't know what happened with the vodka, but the bottle was empty" Err.... think, genius? Are you people still playing this game? I'm glad I get to MD once in a while, so nope. I think my last pt made the necessary High noon correction and then was abandoned. I think that if I have a mind for another pt, by then I'll start over again, it's been too long. Well, at least Ryder got her happy ending at long last. Naah. Those are some lame ass Heleus crops. What are they good for? Also the moonshiner Turian will need dextro-crops regardless. You do realize those lame ass Heleus crops will be what all of Adromeda whiskey is made of in the future, right? Interesting you'd mention the dextro Turian, given he's already brewing he must be several steps ahead or very proficient at stealing from the Nexus. Years is a long time, surely some talks on commitment must occur? That counts as plans, even if vague. Otherwise true, the relationship is still young at the end of MEA. Rushing prematurely into something, like Gil’s weird baby thing would be unfitting for Reyes and Ryder. Right. But maybe if commitment is clearly shown and the relationship going strong, there's less need to talk about it. I can't really see either of them as the type to be eager to settle down, so anything beyond maybe some commitment talks is far future anyway. They don't even have anywhere to rush with the stae of affairs in Heleus. Vague plans counting with some sort of a future, that seems most fitting for them. The Gil thing gave me the creeps even though I don't have a brain cell that would be interested in Gil or his romance. What the hell was that? I think my Ryder ended up dutifully avoiding her rather manic mechanic just to avoid his preaching about his weird friends and starting families as if he were a landmine, silently looking for a capable replacement In what case exactly? In the actual pro-Sloane narrative they do. Without the real Charlatan still un-exposed, who knows. It would be a huge blow regardless. Maybe he’d try something similar but different. The merc thing? He’d still have some resources he might try to rescue before abandoning the Collective, and more permanent contacts as well. He might lay low for a while though, although that would give other operations advantage over him. Maybe he’d even stay on Kadara, since in this scenario he wouldn’t be compromised. Think he’d be spiteful enough for that? I don't know, I kind of expected them to survive the Sloane thing. Barely, but survive. Or do you think that would also count as the moment when Reyes abandons the Collective and starts doing something else? Hmm, what about it would cause that blow, though? That the Charlatan's peple attacked Sloane and lost? That would be a major blow to their prestige, but it wouldn't really reveal them or anything.ther would probably be war after that,but there's shooting in the badlands all the tie, and it's not like the Outcasts knew anything about their hideouts or agents, because they didn't give a fuck all that time. Seems that the thing to really topple the Collective is that the Charlatan is on the run and known. It's likely he'd stay on Kadara if he wasn't compromised, looking for new solutions. Or maybe he could take his remaining resources and try to catch Sloane off guard at some point when she believes the Collective finished? The merc thing has one significant downside, and that is that Reyes probably wouldn't inspire much cofidence as a merc leader. The thing he had going with the individual shifty characters was muh more suited to his MO. I think he'd have to start similarly and focus more on te assassination angl (let's leave aside the question who's thereto assassinate for convenience sake) I don' know if spiteful would be the word. Maybe he just couldn't find it n him to continue a relationship with somone who unwittingly destroyed all he built. He's the type to prefer his own iterests, after all. Well, unless it was shown he has a real romancti streak. Ah that’d be great. But the nature of Ryder’s own mission might have changed at that point, if they had more power and say in things. That of course would also require extra caution. Hm, wonder how much trust here would ultimately be between them in the power couple scenario. For the squaddie, unless it was someone really good, I’d still prefer Reyes coming over for a short while to join on a quest. Depends, I guess, that could go either way. They could easily align their interests and thus be able to trust each other, or some Nexus/exiles rivalry would remain, or lies about the "inconsequential stuff" would multiply, possibly from both sides, and who knows where this could lead. But being a romantic, I'd like them to be the loving type of shady power couple, who are the worst kind of threat to their enemies but none whatsoever to each other Well, Reyes would definitely be the best, but he couldn't stay for long. And having squaddies that belong to diffrent factions is the usual way of going about it, so I thought it would be easy to implement. Depends on how rude he’d consider it that Ryder thinks he needs a lecture on agriculture. I think the rudeness would correlate with Reyes' actual knowledge about agriculture, importance of agriculture and the right ways of going about helping agriculture grow profitable. Lmao at Sloane getting boxed. What an amazing quest idea. That’d make for one hell of an easter egg. See, the whole contraption was a competing High Noon idea by the Salarian, who was trying to convince the Charlatan that Sloane should be disposed of like that, rather than by sniper fire. For some unknowable reason, his proposition lost. Bah, the Charlatan should ease up a bit. I think the only thing that ecuses him in this case would be preferring the sniper method because he can work together with his favorite uncle on it. Wouldn't the box be even more dramatic than the whole sniper thing? Sloane could've expected that, but who would expect the box? The Salarian is apparently an underrated genius. And I thought Reyes had an eye for talent. What’s your argument here, other than apparently dissing my RP style? The romance path allows for different approaches, that counts as a plus to me. Sadly, English Vetra couldn’t quite cut it. Between Anglo-Vetra and French-Reyes, it would probably just be an even earlier shutting down the game. Accent aside, I did like Reyes’ voice, even though it wasn’t anything incredible. Bob?? You know perfectly well I loathe him. Oh, I'm not dissing your RP style, I'm merely comparing notes, don't different RP style deserve a bit of a discussion? The differences in processing the same situation can be quite interesting, so sure, a huge plus there. Sure I do, doesn't mean I wasn't curious what you'd say to that And besides, I'm still at the count of two. So, who is the one I can't figure out? Again with the horrible scenarios with you. Raeka was good, but not yet chill enough. Turians are hard to beat, chill or stick-up-the-ass variety, so I’ll always vote for them. Yet Salarians have been rarer. There’d be inevitable Mordin comparisons, but a chill, biotics focuses, non-scientist Salarian would be enough of a character of their own. Always. But this one was mild, the Salarian didn't need to meddle I found Raeka pretty chill, considering the situation she was in. And no salarian would avoid Mordin comparison ever, even if they had absolutely nothing in common, I think. Mordin is just the go-to salarian. But agreed, nothing can top a Turian. They're one perfect species. Meridian strikes me as the safest location on the cluster, especially considering that the Khett may return soon. On the other hand, it also feels a bit like a death trap. I’d feel claustrophobic in there. But Reyes would appreciate an access to a nice little apartment there as well, though, and visiting his partner would make for a nice little cover for when he wants to do things at the Meridian. That. It's a strange artifial death trap sphere, made by uknown technology to be well, something, I don't care if it looks like a fucking paradise. If the story continues I expect some bad shit to go down there anyway, something like the Reapers kidnapping the Citadel, only not that because we've already seen that one. But agreed about Reyes, it would have to be the place he needs to be. Maybe he was aleady making arrangement during the party. (but I don't believe he'd be ultimately enthusiastic about Meridian) Not anything, unless they want to invoke the wrath of thousands of nerds by conflicting the lore set in stone by DX1. We already know how the Illuminati meet their demise. Whatever Jensen does, can at most be a prelude to that. Let’s hope whatever he does, hopeful or not so hopeful, will be narratively sound at least. I think the idea of a smaller, possibly pyrrhic victory, but with Adam finding some personal peace, would be quietly beautiful, and thematically appropriate for his story’s conclusion. Darrow was just a jealous fuck, he only cared about himself. ME3’s ending was bad not because it was unhappy, but because it was insanely badly written and in conflict with the setting, lore and narrative. That was just a joke. But Pritchard doing something to help Jensen stay alive at the very end would be ultimately the sweetest thing possible. Haha, a Jensen like that would probably fully enjoy being Pritchardless, but even if he chose to save Megan, she'd just traipse away to some other shady biotech company to do even worse things, leaving Jensen alone with his cereal boxes. Choosing Megan over just about any other person should earn some special stupidity award, really, even if not a bad ending straightforwardly. Almost anything's possible sounds nowhee as good, you know Agreed, but he sort of wants to topple the Illuminati. How will he find peace before they are toppled, unless he gets paind not to get in the way by certain individuals and thus contibutes to the destruction of most of the Illuminati by other forces, while he retires with Pritchard, kittens and loads of money? Thatwould of course mean securing himself a very good bargaining position, maybe holding a knife on someone's throat, hopefully better than the last time, but hey, he needs som personal victory, doesn't he? And no one said this would beeasy. Good insight into Darrow's character. It makes him even worse than he is, but it can' be argued with. Is he even alive during MD or did the game kill him no matter what? Well, he does write it in the notes in MD, Jensen comes to him for help Maybe choosing Megan would be another instance of Jensen doing something he disagrees with, and in the final comments he'd reveal his living Pritchad-good outcome sentiments Or maybe he'd think he'd enjoy it but the Pritchardlessenss woul just start to weig on him in time. True about Megan, but Jensen would have to be a fool to think she'd do anything else (or even want her to, after her dna shenanigans,and working with Bob). What can I say, big yay for the stupidity award. A huge one, with big colorful letters. Maybe I wouldn't tie a bad ending to it, but some very random endgame occurrence, or at least some insulting decor. If the whole body is indeed artificial, it’s incredibly impressive. An entire body with articulated musculature that works so closely like the real thing? These models would be shown to investors and LIMB representatives, to show the details of how it works. A paying customer would probably get a skin mesh covering. Namir was just a tool, so he got nothing, or maybe requested to have nothing if he found the bare look badass or something. Which classic would that be? Well, that would be quite shitty for Namir, but he didn't have the best of employers so it may be possible. But skin has some uses, I wonder how he could even function like that unless his nerves were deadened (but wouldn't he be a bit useles in that case?) or the body was really special indeed. It can't be a pleasant feeling to be skinless. Think all those figurines i the room could become Namir, or that he was special? I’m sure something horrible will happen eventually. A bandit, huh. Plotting already? [I guess Jensen’s more common name than Pritchard, then. Too bad it's not based on how hard to spell a name is. Jensen could just make a promise to himself, then. Even so, he should’ve defended Pritchard, and since Frank was so mad at Quinn and Vega, he would’ve welcomed Jensen’s defense of him. That would’ve made him more receptive for a private apology later when they were alone. Sure he would snark back, but he’d get the message even so. I don’t care what they thought, they still went about it the wrong way, and pointing a loaded gun at someone is always a choice with a ton of package coming with it. You know, out of all people, I was sure you'd empathize with poor Frank being slighted like that. Jensen’s not eager, anyway, he’s suspicious of the Collective but doesn’t have any options. In MD he’s surprisingly friendly with Alex, in fact, compared to how cool he stayed in Black light. I guess the devs just wanted to sell Vega as a just and friendly char, but she comes across hollow and fake. I can’t tell if that’s intentional to make us doubt the Collective, or just less than stellar writing. I can feel like we’re genuinely supposed to like her and her stupid backstory, and that comes across too try-hard. Maybe it does Maybe Pritchard is so hard to spell it doesn't even count as a word. Yep. It would even be nice in the book because we'd get to see the process. Ha, more wasted chances at getting close for the two of them, and now one of them could directly benefit from it. I'm starting to think Jensen didn't defend him on purpose, because at that point it akes no other sense. Yeah, he'd get the message, but how would Jensen feel? He might expect that, but still, if you solemnly vow to protect someone can you prepare for them just snarking something back? I empahize with Frank alright, but this was more about the assholeness value of the act as such, I didn't focus on him so much. If I did, well, I'd probably have to admit that the assholeness value was very high because Frank, period. It's quite strange, yep. Jensen doesn't seem like the type to make friens with people who were seen poiting a gun at his associates, but could it be some disparity between her novel and game selves? i wouldn't expect her to be written by the same guy, much less that one of her authors was erfectly acquainted with what the other one did. Eliza wasn’t a willing slave to the Picus network/Illuminati anymore, after having observed Adam, but as shackled AI couldn’t do much about it. Yet at the end of HR she was able to disobey them by cooperating with Adam and whatever message he wanted to send/not send. The author had cleverer references, like the Alaska place being called Facility 451. Yes, Sarif exists and he’d surely want Adam around, but is he of any use to Adam? Remember that everything Jensen is doing is because he’s bore-mindedly obsessed with bringing the Illuminati down. That’s the only reason he’s with the Interpol and the Collective. If Jensen was trying to find the best options for himself personally, he might consider different a path. As of now, Sarif can’t help him much, and if Adam worked for him, he’d surely be cross with him attempting to fly off to investigate leads for his personal mission. Pritchard appearing as a central char again is my personal dream, but who knows. They may want to bring in new people for each new game. Yeah, I noticed that. Maybe it's a bit unfair of me, but how much trust would Jensen have in her anyway? Her boradcasting the end didn't quite get through, and she was powerless to make any changes the Illuminati didn't wish, she still belonged to them despite a little mutiny here or there. And eventually she was likely still majorly data scrubbed in the end of HR, so that she could be her annoying MD self in a short time. But maybe the source of the qutation wasn't all that impotant for Jensen anyway. The second best this abou the password thing is how it indignated poor Anonymous X. That guy is great, we need more of him. Ha! I theor has occurred to me- he's secretly Janus True, he's probably no useful at the time, who who can tel he won't be useful again, given some time? Maybe I'm saying that because I'm too early into MD to have any projections about here the story is going, but Sarif probably doesn't love the Illuminati and might prove helpful in some yet unforeseeable way (maybe he'd get pissed off with them ruining his dream and wanted to get back at them through Jensen? maybe Jensencould go freelance in the sequel anyway) New people for each game are just fine, but if there's too mmuch new people and the same protagonist, it gets weird. I like recurring characters, doesn't really have to be all of them. But the protag suddenly coming somewhere with no familiar faces at all... I don't know. And people missed Pritchard and he got DLC, it seems he wouldn't be forgotten, he could at least get DLC or a mission again. Aww, those kitties, how sweet. Thanks for cheering me up, I’ve been in the pits lately. 🌻MD has one rather largish seeming side quest cluster that I didn’t do before and am not doing on this pt either, since it would demand associating with criminals in a way that I just can’t see Adam doing. I’m okay with that though, since I assume you can just refuse to return the favor they’ll be demanding later, but even so I can’t see why anyone ever would choose that route, since you can just do the preliminary quest without even interacting with them in the first place. Well, as long as it cheered you up at least a little. (maybe I'll need to find a larger basket) Is this about the Dvali and the neurocalibrator? I hope they won't jump out of somewhere demanding things once I've stolen the damn thing from their safe. Yep, it would be extremely odd for Jensen to associate with guys like that for no obvious Illuminati-toppling reasons. I'll probably pass those quests too and will fell fine about it. Ahaha, I didn’t even know you could break windshields. And have you been killing cops? Your Interpol boss is not gonna like that. I think I want to try a mayhem run like that some time. Just fuck everybody’s shit up. You should’ve recorded the trash can bounce, sounds hilarious. Poor Adam, though. Did you even make it to the registration office? No prob. Now I hope you have the same packages as I do and actually have the revolver, lol. Also if you complete the multiplayer tutorial, you get a free praxis point for Jensen; I found that out just yesterday. But don’t go to mp before playing Pritchard’s DLC! It’s spoilery. I thought more like him getting up of his own volition and stretching for a bit maybe. It’s not like there weren’t fan service given to us already. Nah, a thrash bin doesn't kill them, they just stagger for a while and then start shooting, but I reloaded every single time that happened, I don't need that shit, even though those guys aren't real police. What, Miller complains if you act unruly in the streets of Prague? That sounds like fun, and besides you'd just be stomping out a den of impostors, so that would basically be liberation. It was hilarious, but also very fast, and something I couldn't replicate if I tried, so no records. Beides, I don't even have anything for video capture. Yeah, I did, eventually. I wouldn't give up after all that time. It looked like dumb luck most of all, but finally I got there Did you take the front door? I've actually looted a revolver before I got home again, so I guess I'll keep that one around. I even found the storage under the floor once I returned, but I'm starting to wonder why I haven't seen Pritchard's script anywhere yet. Ah, a free praxis kit. Yay, thanks for the info. Or that, yeah. Or he could do something unexpected, like turn the Tv off all annoyed and start reading the language textbooks. Not as fancervicey but practical. Or he could remove his pants, humming "I'm too sexy" I want to shop at “A Special Roach.” Maybe that’s for exotic pets. Or something more Croenenbergian, maybe? I believe it's pest control Ever come across a shop with a rather funny dead roach painitngs all over the place? That's the one. If there are exotic pets, they are probably under the counter only.
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Post by starlord on Jan 9, 2018 20:36:06 GMT
ou got everything done so early? You don't know how much I envy you, I'll be at it... well, probably till September with all that studious enthusiasm and zeal of mine that just can't be contained. At this point I have all but lost hope there will be a MEA2 at all, and if it is, that it won't be set several hundred years after MEA1 or run on some other cheap escape strategy. If a miracle happens and I'm wrong, it would be downright criminal if Reyes weren't in it as the character who has most potential to grow into something genuinely intriguing, a shadow broker, a plot-important player and the shadiest of LIs. They can't waste a character like that if the story continues, besides, he got some attention in MEA, it's not like people wouldn't notice he's gone. I was able to land an internship, so I won't be back until February and then I'm gone in May again for vacation. m.popkey.co/920d64/5eoaA.gifI'm still hoping- I think they should do something like that- ME1 is beloved, but it's the least favorite of the franchise ME3 ending aside. I could see people encouraging new players to slog through Andromeda especially if Bioware gave EA the middle finger and did a linear game design rather than an open world one. Open World, imo, will always be weak for Mass Effect because it's an intimate game. It's variety comes from player decisions and relationship exploration and not from a fully fueled Nomad. Here's hoping some higher ups at Bioware (looking at you Casey) get that. 78.media.tumblr.com/3324a698ce15b3b9c0b21e0d630445c1/tumblr_ow8qfaym9i1u9lu76o3_540.gifHowever, I feel like Bioware's future is riding on Anthem being a solid game that sells a lot of copies.. and judging by public opinion rn, that's super fucking concerning.
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Post by starlord on Jan 9, 2018 20:38:40 GMT
Bioware is looking at this thread like: media.giphy.com/media/4wqux6cOB6dEY/giphy.gifReyes is that good of a character! EDIT: PS. Wrote this line for my fic update... I still got it. “How do you know all of this? I never saw you on Omega during my time investigating the Collector attacks. What makes you so important, especially to Aria?” Shepard asked. Reyes tilted his head with a sly grin, “why? Think you’d remember me if you did?” media.giphy.com/media/CzbiCJTYOzHTW/giphy.gifBack to writing!
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Post by orchid on Jan 11, 2018 20:19:21 GMT
Can I just say I fucking hope that Ryder returns in Andromeda 2??? It would be really sad to see characters with potential go to the shitter. Also, I'm back working on my fanfictions- I'm just getting some inspo by replaying Mass Effect again (going for Thane for the first time ever!!) and I'm super stoked. Should probably throw myself into ME3, since Echoes in Neon is set in ME3, but I need to make sure I have that ME2/ME3 gritty feel down. Also as a creature of habit, Reyes will be on his spy shit once again because I'm trash. Also if I can go off topic, I'm dying to iron out my Life is Strange: BTS one shot with Rachel Amber. I've been rewatching Twin Peaks after I finished the finale, and I need more angst T-T. I need to get back in the swing of writing things soon, especially since I'm submitting to a writing contest. PPS. Can I express my confusion at the fact that Mass Effect DLC is still full priced? Like I've still not played Overlord, Lair of the Shadow Broker, Omega, and Arrival, and I need more Shep and the gang in my life, but why're they so expensive still???? Good luck to the writing contest, starlord. Somehow the thread manages to live… It’s insanely rare, but the DLC on Origin go on sale on very rare occasions. It’s funny that a DLC can cost more than the base game itself! But I guess that’s how they figure they’ll make their money (assholes). Haha. No, I only read that it was stolen and then I didn't see a follow-up to it. Now, what did Reyes do with the bottle? Kept it as a memento? Left it there empty? Smuggled the empty bottle back into Sloane's supply as a prank? If you look at the kiss, the bottle is just about to fall of Reyes’ hand, so I think it ended up rolling of the roof sooner or later. Didn’t look fancy enough to take with him to home and he’s probably not that sentimental. It's somehow fitting to imagine Sloane or Kaetus getting mad at their peons not finding the fancy whiskey later on, and then some guard tripping on the empty bottle the next morning. Oo, that looks someone was inspired. But, hell, who wouldn't want to steal a bottle of alcoholic treasure and drink it somewhere secluded. There's no denying it, Reyes is living the dream, so it's only natural people follow Btw, the article itself is pure gold. "I don't know what happened with the vodka, but the bottle was empty" Err.... think, genius? It’s funny to think that somebody potentially just stole the bottle for a quick buzz, without a care about it being incredibly expensive, and threw away the gold decorated bottle after the vodka doing its job, right? True. It would be very hard to get one up there lol, so the sun it is. Actually that's nice, that they have a bit of sunshine. Ah a little abatement for Reyes’ demands to have them stay inside the cave for weeks on end. They can ride the crate pulleys up and enjoy the slightly fresher air close to the surface. (Actually this is making Reyes sounds bad, isn’t it ) You do realize those lame ass Heleus crops will be what all of Adromeda whiskey is made of in the future, right? Interesting you'd mention the dextro Turian, given he's already brewing he must be several steps ahead or very proficient at stealing from the Nexus. well it’s not going to be whiskey, then. They need to make a new name for it. Like bourbon isn’t ~proper~ whiskey either. The dextro Turian knows the tricks; he brought a nice personal seed vault from Palaven and is set for several life times. Props to him. Reyes must be jealous af. Right. But maybe if commitment is clearly shown and the relationship going strong, there's less need to talk about it. I can't really see either of them as the type to be eager to settle down, so anything beyond maybe some commitment talks is far future anyway. They don't even have anywhere to rush with the stae of affairs in Heleus. Vague plans counting with some sort of a future, that seems most fitting for them. The Gil thing gave me the creeps even though I don't have a brain cell that would be interested in Gil or his romance. What the hell was that? I think my Ryder ended up dutifully avoiding her rather manic mechanic just to avoid his preaching about his weird friends and starting families as if he were a landmine, silently looking for a capable replacement I dunno, it again depends on each Ryder, but were I him (Ryder, that is), I'd probs ask for some confirmation that he and Reyes were exclusive, right, and then they'd share their house keys maybe (but better come up with a good password for the terminal lmao). Just the basics like that. Ha, now imagine playing the game under assumption that Gil is the ONLY OPTION available for you, and after all hope being lost, Reyes suddenly descends from heavens, and can you blame Scott for becoming a little foolishly smitten? I don't know, I kind of expected them to survive the Sloane thing. Barely, but survive. Or do you think that would also count as the moment when Reyes abandons the Collective and starts doing something else? Hmm, what about it would cause that blow, though? That the Charlatan's peple attacked Sloane and lost? That would be a major blow to their prestige, but it wouldn't really reveal them or anything.ther would probably be war after that,but there's shooting in the badlands all the tie, and it's not like the Outcasts knew anything about their hideouts or agents, because they didn't give a fuck all that time. Seems that the thing to really topple the Collective is that the Charlatan is on the run and known. It's likely he'd stay on Kadara if he wasn't compromised, looking for new solutions. Or maybe he could take his remaining resources and try to catch Sloane off guard at some point when she believes the Collective finished? The merc thing has one significant downside, and that is that Reyes probably wouldn't inspire much cofidence as a merc leader. The thing he had going with the individual shifty characters was muh more suited to his MO. I think he'd have to start similarly and focus more on te assassination angl (let's leave aside the question who's thereto assassinate for convenience sake) The thing with that is that it’s negating the player choice and the narrative, assuming that that would still happen. It’s meant to be a big blow, and I’m not sure Reyes not getting revealed would be enough to counter all that. It might just go differently, such as some Collective agents not believing that the fake-Charlatan was fake, others being so unimpressed with Reyes’ plan failing that they start to rebel, and so on. In the actual narrative the reveal is of course the biggest blow, of course. The assassination targets will start to come up once the actual politics power play begins, among the Initiative and the Angara, it’ll go marvelously. Believe me. Bah, the Charlatan should ease up a bit. I think the only thing that ecuses him in this case would be preferring the sniper method because he can work together with his favorite uncle on it. Wouldn't the box be even more dramatic than the whole sniper thing? Sloane could've expected that, but who would expect the box? The Salarian is apparently an underrated genius. And I thought Reyes had an eye for talent. Maybe the Charlatan feels it would be too vaudeville and thus hurt his dangerous crime boss image? it being extra humiliating for Sloane would help, sure, but she’s gone already, and as we know, Reyes won’t brood on her afterwards anyway, he’s too cool for that. Of course, the Salarian would’ve been right about the box being more unexpected, and neither SAM nor Ryder could’ve ruined the box-drop. Oh, I'm not dissing your RP style, I'm merely comparing notes, don't different RP style deserve a bit of a discussion? The differences in processing the same situation can be quite interesting, so sure, a huge plus there. Sure I do, doesn't mean I wasn't curious what you'd say to that And besides, I'm still at the count of two. So, who is the one I can't figure out? Oh of course, but it can get challenging when the questions gets to “what would suit Ryder’s character”, which of course varies in headcanon even when it doesn’t in the story. Sorry for getting testy. It’s interesting, I feel like ultimately Reyes would’ve lost my previous Ryder already during the “leaving drinks unpaid” scheme, whereas the earlier ones wouldn’t have minded and been all chill about that and most about everything else. Maybe it just comes down to m!Ryder’s VA. Ah good, it's not as obvious as I thought. But not here, not in this thread. Always. But this one was mild, the Salarian didn't need to meddle I found Raeka pretty chill, considering the situation she was in. And no salarian would avoid Mordin comparison ever, even if they had absolutely nothing in common, I think. Mordin is just the go-to salarian. But agreed, nothing can top a Turian. They're one perfect species. Raeka was cool, and maybe she’d be chiller if her Ark hadn’t gone through all that. For a sequel, she’d be on the roster among Reyes, potentially escaped-from-prison-and-vengeful Kaetus, ever-plotting Keema, the Turian militia guy whose name I am destined to forget and remember in turns, French Vetra, and… the Moonshine Turian and Mr. Sniper Guy. The rest can get ate by the Black Hole Cthulhu. Oo-err, are you sure? That. It's a strange artifial death trap sphere, made by uknown technology to be well, something, I don't care if it looks like a fucking paradise. If the story continues I expect some bad shit to go down there anyway, something like the Reapers kidnapping the Citadel, only not that because we've already seen that one. But agreed about Reyes, it would have to be the place he needs to be. Maybe he was aleady making arrangement during the party. (but I don't believe he'd be ultimately enthusiastic about Meridian) That’s the problem, isn’t it? They started with a slow burn, setting up all these actually interesting things for future games, but it just didn’t work out, combined with all the other issues (worst interface in the world, bad writing, dull characters, surprisingly ugly graphics). I’d actually like to go and explore Meridian, rather than the two boring desert planets. Inexplicable! Back to Reyes, I’m sure he’d want to be on the scene, close to the early explorers, combing over Meridian’s secrets. Conveniently enough, the Pathfinding should have the honor to pick the most interesting places to investigate. Haha, I could see it, that’s why he was burying his nose in his omnitool. Maybe his guys were outside taking all kinds of readings and sending them to Reyes for quick look. He might be, he’s got an adventurous streak. It doesn’t seem to pose an obvious risk, so while he’d be cautious, it would probably be mostly optimism he had. He doesn’t seem the doom and gloom type, as we know.
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Post by starlord on Jan 11, 2018 21:57:33 GMT
Good luck to the writing contest, starlord. Somehow the thread manages to live… It’s insanely rare, but the DLC on Origin go on sale on very rare occasions. It’s funny that a DLC can cost more than the base game itself! But I guess that’s how they figure they’ll make their money (assholes). Thank you! I'm very nervous, but excited to submit my work!!! Yeah!!! I mean I appreciate Zaeed and Firepack being free, but Lair of the Shadowbroker is 10 fucking dollars, and Omega is 15, add in Arrival and Overlord and you're talking at a full game you're paying for. I love Mass Effect, but the fact that they aren't bundling it or making it more affordable is ridiculous. I sing praises about these games, but I will only very begrudgingly pay full price for the dlc for a past gen game. Lets' be real! PS. I pay on Xbox, which is also a pain for deals, I believe. EDIT: I just rewrote the plot summary for Echoes in Neon... Can't believe that my dumbass didn't see that basically being like "lol ME3 + Reyes- won't be retelling of Me3," wasn't appetizing to those potentially interested. I'm very proud of it now! Very dramatic, stylish, and a more "novelly" approach to the concept. All it took was me rewatching the Atomic Blonde trailer three times to pull it off. OT Playthrough shenanigans (MAJOR SPOILERS IN THE TAG FOR 2/3 BTW :3 I just beat Horizon with Quinn Shepard (who was a Kaidanmancer) can I just call bullshit on the fact that Kaidan accuses you of cheating if you sleep with another LI in 2. What he says on Horizon was a deadass break up- even when he says something like "in the future... maybe" in that email
I'd understand it if Bioware wrote his sadness about you romancing another as "I was loyal to you when you died, but you couldn't be loyal to me after you hurt and betrayed me badly which poured salt in the wound," but him calling it cheating just rubs me the wrong way.
I wish my Shepard went off on him in ME3 like "I didn't cheat on you- you called me a traitor to everything I stood for and basically told me to go fuck myself after I explained to you that I'm in a very scary situation and I needed your help. Even if partaking in the suicide mission was too much for you, you could've just idk reached out more and made sure I didn't turn into a human first propaganda spewing boshtet." I'm romancing Thane this time around, which will be super hilarious since Thane basically protects him that entire time he's hospitalized in 3.
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Post by BloodOfShiagur on Jan 13, 2018 21:55:46 GMT
Thank you! I'm very nervous, but excited to submit my work!!! Yeah!!! I mean I appreciate Zaeed and Firepack being free, but Lair of the Shadowbroker is 10 fucking dollars, and Omega is 15, add in Arrival and Overlord and you're talking at a full game you're paying for. I love Mass Effect, but the fact that they aren't bundling it or making it more affordable is ridiculous. I sing praises about these games, but I will only very begrudgingly pay full price for the dlc for a past gen game. Lets' be real! PS. I pay on Xbox, which is also a pain for deals, I believe. EDIT: I just rewrote the plot summary for Echoes in Neon... Can't believe that my dumbass didn't see that basically being like "lol ME3 + Reyes- won't be retelling of Me3," wasn't appetizing to those potentially interested. I'm very proud of it now! Very dramatic, stylish, and a more "novelly" approach to the concept. All it took was me rewatching the Atomic Blonde trailer three times to pull it off. OT Playthrough shenanigans (MAJOR SPOILERS IN THE TAG FOR 2/3 BTW :3 I just beat Horizon with Quinn Shepard (who was a Kaidanmancer) can I just call bullshit on the fact that Kaidan accuses you of cheating if you sleep with another LI in 2. What he says on Horizon was a deadass break up- even when he says something like "in the future... maybe" in that email
I'd understand it if Bioware wrote his sadness about you romancing another as "I was loyal to you when you died, but you couldn't be loyal to me after you hurt and betrayed me badly which poured salt in the wound," but him calling it cheating just rubs me the wrong way.
I wish my Shepard went off on him in ME3 like "I didn't cheat on you- you called me a traitor to everything I stood for and basically told me to go fuck myself after I explained to you that I'm in a very scary situation and I needed your help. Even if partaking in the suicide mission was too much for you, you could've just idk reached out more and made sure I didn't turn into a human first propaganda spewing boshtet." I'm romancing Thane this time around, which will be super hilarious since Thane basically protects him that entire time he's hospitalized in 3. Something more specific about the fic you're submitting? I like that new description, it's stylish, especially the ending. But how could Reyes change anything for the worst unless you happen to be a tyrant ganglord? This, this and this. The real reason why I'm always glad I started the trilogy with ME2 and thus never had to resist the temptation to take the bland LI he was just because the possibility as there. He's annoying enough in ME3 even if Shepard didn't romance him, but all that bitching about cheating thing is way over the top. So what if Shepard cheated on him anyway, after all he said without even trying to see Shepard's side of things, he can shove his "maybe later" e-mail where the sun doesn't shine. In my canon pt it's somehow made even worse, since I made it look like Shepard never cared for him or even encouraged him to start a relationship (refused the sex scene, at the very least, my Shep is a very fitting one to get ninjamanced like that so I let it flow) but he pined for her nevertheless, so his accusation of cheating sounds as ridiculous as can be. It would show he's not willing to work with them as openly as he is now. It's just a little idea. Hm yes. And then if you talk to them they could change the dialogue a bit depending if they like your actions or not. They have to play it a bit smarter than before until the dust settles. Perhaps make them think they fled the city. I think he'll manage it to fool them as long as they don't find his super secret datapads. Work with who, Ryder who hasn't been nice and cooperative enough? That would actually be pretty great and make sense, I thought this was about him sending a surrogate to the duel. Although I can't see it ending in something else than a proper shitstorm if a not-so-friendly Ryder happened to uncover the fact the Charlatan screwed them over. I wonder who'd he pick for such a job, though. It's too important to be handed to just anyone. (MaybeMr. Sniper Guy has one more secret talent?) Yeah, and then tell you to fuck off when you've displeased them enough Super-secret datapads don't look like something that would be of interest to your average Outcast, so maybe they could survive like that, though leaving the city till the storm blows over a bit seems like the most rational course of action. But then again, if Reyes himself disappeared, it might cast suspicion on him nobody would probably ever dream of coming up with if he stayed. Maybe he'd really have to sit tight and wait. Why should they throw them away though, one of their accomplishments? That depends on the Ryder but at least it's a warning. To make room for another species, perhaps? They didn't look like they had bigger goals than the creation of a single species. Unless they had a Meridian for every such experiment, that is, in that case they could afford to have this one clogged with thousands of blueprints. True, but most Ryders will probably be driven by the gameplay mechanics at least a little and thus will take his *wink wink* as a shiny invitation to a new cool location full of Collective guys. Besides, for some Ryders it would make sense to want to know exactly what the Collective is up to. Now, what did Reyes do with the bottle? Kept it as a memento? Left it there empty? Smuggled the empty bottle back into Sloane's supply as a prank? That. I think this should have been a regular choice at the end of the quest, once it was time to end the chilling on the roof. Too bad Sloane can be dead quite soon after the theft, so it would probably be Keema who'd discover there's something amiss with the bottle. But leaving it on the roof for someone to find and wonder what happened would also be quite lovely. Reyes loves being mysterious, after all If you look at the kiss, the bottle is just about to fall of Reyes’ hand, so I think it ended up rolling of the roof sooner or later. Didn’t look fancy enough to take with him to home and he’s probably not that sentimental. It's somehow fitting to imagine Sloane or Kaetus getting mad at their peons not finding the fancy whiskey later on, and then some guard tripping on the empty bottle the next morning. Maybe Reyes managed to keep hold of the bottle somehow, doesn't look empty by that time so that would be quite a waste. I don't think he'd allow that considering how high he seems to be thinking of the whiskey, no Pathfinder is probably worth that loss I wouldn't want to be that guard. I think the empty bottle would quickly get misplaced in that case and no one would ever hear of the find. Anyway, it would make a pretty fun piece of news for the Heleus news service. "Some of the locals we interviewed suspect it to be the work of the Charlatan" It’s funny to think that somebody potentially just stole the bottle for a quick buzz, without a care about it being incredibly expensive, and threw away the gold decorated bottle after the vodka doing its job, right? I like that kind of attitude. It's like the Earth equivalent of the Presidium fish, so decadent. But maybe they just didn't want to bother with the bottle afterwards if they weren't professionals who knew how to fence such a thing. well it’s not going to be whiskey, then. They need to make a new name for it. Like bourbon isn’t ~proper~ whiskey either. The dextro Turian knows the tricks; he brought a nice personal seed vault from Palaven and is set for several life times. Props to him. Reyes must be jealous af. Poor Reyes, in that case. He's never going to have true whiskey again. Did he ever think of that when leaving for Andromeda? It's no wonder he's searching for the Mt. Milgrom with such zeal. Indeed, he should be jealous and making arrangements. Given that the Turian makes moonshine the krogan can drink, he must have all manner of miracles in that seed vault, and maybe he'd be open to cooperation, leading to taking over Heleus booze market (Or. maybe he discovered a way to interact with the remnant, thus enhancing the potential of his seed vault several times ) I dunno, it again depends on each Ryder, but were I him (Ryder, that is), I'd probs ask for some confirmation that he and Reyes were exclusive, right, and then they'd share their house keys maybe (but better come up with a good password for the terminal lmao). Just the basics like that. Ha, now imagine playing the game under assumption that Gil is the ONLY OPTION available for you, and after all hope being lost, Reyes suddenly descends from heavens, and can you blame Scott for becoming a little foolishly smitten? True. (Btw, Reyes cheating on Ryder is a rather horrifying thought for some reason) Think house keys are still a thing in ME? If indeed Ryder ends up with a different home than the Tempest? Well, celibate would be a nice and very appreciated option in that case But I think Reyes didn't descent from heaven, he came regularly through the door. If he came through a hole in the wall it would make for a different kind of entrance altogether The thing with that is that it’s negating the player choice and the narrative, assuming that that would still happen. It’s meant to be a big blow, and I’m not sure Reyes not getting revealed would be enough to counter all that. It might just go differently, such as some Collective agents not believing that the fake-Charlatan was fake, others being so unimpressed with Reyes’ plan failing that they start to rebel, and so on. In the actual narrative the reveal is of course the biggest blow, of course. The assassination targets will start to come up once the actual politics power play begins, among the Initiative and the Angara, it’ll go marvelously. Believe me. It's not like that never happened if the devs wanted the story to go a different way. But the idea I got from the High noon fail was that the Collective was badly damaged and scrambling to live, but not gone altogether. When Reyes suggests this is not the end in the e-mails, he sounds like he's going to rebuild and take the Port anyway, not really start somewhere else (which would support the theory of the Collective being around like it or not). In the end it may depend on Reyes being persuasive enough to keep the Collective, or at least a part of it, together despite he the blow it took, but the universal Charlatan confusion somehow sounds too funny But yeah, it could happen. I can't even imagine how that would have to frustrate Reyes, though. Once the power play begins, the Collective is probably going to be busy on all fronts. And probably filthy rich in no time, too. (But still, I wonder if even the angara will use the serviced of the Collective of if they have their own assassins to do the job) Maybe the Charlatan feels it would be too vaudeville and thus hurt his dangerous crime boss image? it being extra humiliating for Sloane would help, sure, but she’s gone already, and as we know, Reyes won’t brood on her afterwards anyway, he’s too cool for that. Of course, the Salarian would’ve been right about the box being more unexpected, and neither SAM nor Ryder could’ve ruined the box-drop. Bah, after the vaudeville he did stage to kill Sloane? No way It must be the inter-Collective power play and the unfair struggle between underrated box Salarian and Mr. Sniper Guy, aka the favorite. If he wanted to be dangerous crime boss, he wouldn't play games, he'd just let Sloane know how bad an idea it was to come as soon as she found herself sufficiently deep inside the cave. See, another advantage of the box. If Ryder happened to spot a box hanging from the ceiling, would their first thought (or SAM's first analysis) be paranoid about it being set up there to kill Sloane? Of course not, Reyes' plan would worker and Ryder would be left with one big "well, shit" And Reyes would just need to change his line to "Boom" Oh of course, but it can get challenging when the questions gets to “what would suit Ryder’s character”, which of course varies in headcanon even when it doesn’t in the story. Sorry for getting testy. It’s interesting, I feel like ultimately Reyes would’ve lost my previous Ryder already during the “leaving drinks unpaid” scheme, whereas the earlier ones wouldn’t have minded and been all chill about that and most about everything else. Maybe it just comes down to m!Ryder’s VA. I don't know, in that case I just insert a default "in my opinion" everywhere. Ryder isn't a set character, they can't be discussed as one. The unpaid drinks already? But he even made up for that with a pretty rare expensive whiskey. The voice acting is just another thing to be omitted when it doesn't fit, just like a line of dialogue. But even taking in account the female VA I could pretty well imagine Ryder starting to steam about it but then immediately chiiling, telling herself she couldn't have expected any better. Raeka was cool, and maybe she’d be chiller if her Ark hadn’t gone through all that. For a sequel, she’d be on the roster among Reyes, potentially escaped-from-prison-and-vengeful Kaetus, ever-plotting Keema, the Turian militia guy whose name I am destined to forget and remember in turns, French Vetra, and… the Moonshine Turian and Mr. Sniper Guy. The rest can get ate by the Black Hole Cthulhu. I demand Drack be pulled out of the Black Hole Cthulhu maw, he's too old and not pleasing to Cthulhu palate anyway And since the minor characters also count, Bain Massani and that totally inconsequential but cool af Turian girl you pull out of cryo earlier and she tells you where Kett have their supplies in the cluster. They'd make for great future NPCs. Fuck, I think I've forgotten the militia... Kandros. That's the Nexus one. That’s the problem, isn’t it? They started with a slow burn, setting up all these actually interesting things for future games, but it just didn’t work out, combined with all the other issues (worst interface in the world, bad writing, dull characters, surprisingly ugly graphics). I’d actually like to go and explore Meridian, rather than the two boring desert planets. Inexplicable! Back to Reyes, I’m sure he’d want to be on the scene, close to the early explorers, combing over Meridian’s secrets. Conveniently enough, the Pathfinding should have the honor to pick the most interesting places to investigate. Haha, I could see it, that’s why he was burying his nose in his omnitool. Maybe his guys were outside taking all kinds of readings and sending them to Reyes for quick look. He might be, he’s got an adventurous streak. It doesn’t seem to pose an obvious risk, so while he’d be cautious, it would probably be mostly optimism he had. He doesn’t seem the doom and gloom type, as we know. Which is actually too bad, I wouldn't mind a game that just sets shit up, getting dumped in a working universe is the usual way to go about it and any change in MO is nice. But yeah, a bigger glimpse on the Meridian would've been priceless. They shouldn't have held out on so much interesting stuff in the game. Aw, Reyes and the Pathfinder, tagging along Meridian discovering stuff and drinking in places nobody has visited since the scourge happened. How cute would that be. Hmm, now I actually really doubt whether his adventure streak would really be all about the dashing rogue adventures. Poking around long since lost mysterious stuff doesn't seem so far fetched for him either. It would be pretty daring of him to smuggle his guys on the Meridian so early on, but he doesn't waste time. (Maybe he could show all those images to Ryder later on, gloating he got them first ) Oh, cuddly kittens. Is the cute pup your dog? Not broke but maybe they have a limited supply^^. If you save in his home the location says "poor apartment". You can watch TV and the news change but he won't sit on the couch again. Nah, I stole this model of adorable little guy from the cute animal thread because I couldn't part with the sight He was still around on my desktop when I got tired of thinking of my new avatar and now here he is. Does it look like a poor apartment to you, though? I think it's a poor apartment because it's in a poor aug quarter, and all the other apartments look like shit, exactly s they're expected to. The limited water supply just might be a thing, actually. Still ,too bad the animations don't repeat. What if someone just exited them due to impatience not knowing there's no way back? Lol, it's not a restaurant, is it? I forgot to look at the bottles but maybe it's better they didn't invent Czech beer names if they've given the shops such crazy names . Oh, they did To some of them at least. But still, a country of beer and they put weird Indian beers all over the place? Where's the logic in that? (My Jensen drinks Pilsner and it's hilarious, since it makes me think of a well known -and liked- Czech parody movie, where the super cool invincible American detective who came to Prague to solve a horrible crime goes discovering local beer ) They're not high in the offender list, though, my favorite is "Svobody beer", which is either supposed to be The Beer of Freedom or, Svoboda's (a common surname) beer, who knows. Yeah, that one. You can also just speak to them and you get the calibrator peacefully, if you agree to helping them out later. Didn’t feel right to me, especially since lore-wise the calibrator isn’t even a vital thing for Jensen or Koller. If you’re Jensen at that moment, even if you figure that “well, I just won’t do it if they ask that I kill someone or something like that”, you should be able to figure that Koller might get harmed as a result of you breaking the deal. Dunno how those quests actually go, but I’ll see it in a future pt probably. I've recently got massively reprimanded for sneaking in. Apparently those quests we're missing are very long and cool, it was likened to not talking to Tong in HR It's going to be a challenge to make it fit Jensen, though, since it feels so much like an extortion an operative of Jensen's skill would be dumb not to go around, which is perfectly well in his power (only in the case he refuses and leaves, and then the calibrator gets lost, the Dvali might take it out on Koller anyway) And no need to say that harm coming to Koller would be bad. The only harm Jensen should allow to come to Koller would be that caused by the Accent reintroduction squad, aka we'll teach you your native accent in record time I don’t think it would make any sense for it to simulate flayed musculature in anything other than just looks. It’s just to show how the parts move together in a natural way. I’d guess Namir would have all kinds of specialized augs for his job, while the showroom models would be blank slates for prospective customers. That, or it’s just a creepy doll-room for Zhao and/or Darrow, who knows with these people. I wonder if Megan ever left her white room to have an invigorating walk among the weird flexing aug-bodies? Bah, here you go linking another music vid for me without having commented my previous music links with as much as “Man your taste in music is rancid piss.” Maybe the bare musculature has some intimidation value? But still, stuff must get into it, it makes you stand out in the crowd... The doll/some sort of testing dummy room somehow sounds more likely, the augs mostly came in parts, didn't they? A whole body would've be pretty extreme, and besides, can you imagine how it gets implemented? How many people would be willing to have their head cut off and propped on to another body? That's hardcore, man. I can pretty well imagine Megan walking among the figurines and feeling invigorated, but I don't know if they ever let her out of the room. You asked for my source, I've given it. Of course I haven't passed up your links, I still just need to get back to them because all this surreal imagery is apparently not a thing my brain can process at about 3 in the morning. So on the contrary, but I need to do a thorough examination of said links before I feel I can comment Oh, hell. I think I should put a moat around my corporate HQ. And hire some more guards, and *spoiler* Hehe, Miller complains if you kill policemen during a mission he gives you. (Good thing to keep in mind is that the collision in MD is bit wonky, so after knocking an enemy out, be careful when dragging them around to hide them, since bumping into walls can kill them. Not as big deal if you’re not aiming for Pacifist, but something to remember anyway.) That’s one way to reason it, but lol at this being Jensen’s MO during the game: Yah I took the front door, but I left by the vent. MSI Afterburner + RTSS are good free programs for vid cap without watermarks on the video. Recommended, only you must launch them after MD is already running, because otherwise the game refuses to launch for some reason that’s beyond my ability to understand or indeed care. Pritchard’s script is on the TV table in front of the sofa, next to the framed photo of Kubrick. (His most prized possessions, remember? ) Ah, that’d be great. And later, it would result in him being able to order the exact Czech dish he wants at a deli. Miller should look around and realize some things, then No way, that's even better than when you happen to drop a body from too much of a height in HR. Guess Jensen should be more careful about the extra strength. Did that ever happen to you? And how did you deal with the beeping camera? And the guy who obviously couldn't have not seen Jensen sneaking around all clandestine? Cute pic. It could easily be Jensen's MO as soon as his righteousness can't handle the fact they do little but terrorize augs anyway Thanks for the tips, those may come in handy sometime How the fuck have I been able to miss it? I noticed Kubrick right away, but not the script:facepalm: Hell yeah, and that would make the scene very educational too. And of course, Jensen would get yet another opportunity to show off his skills, this time the not auged ones. I wonde rhow many people at the TF can pull that off. Lol oh no. That’s not quite as fun, but I guess it fits the theme. Fits the theme? How?
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Post by starlord on Jan 14, 2018 3:19:27 GMT
I like that new description, it's stylish, especially the ending. But how could Reyes change anything for the worst unless you happen to be a tyrant ganglord? i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/904/853/653.gifWell, I got to be honest: Ryder was extremely naive when it comes to Reyes. I mean the dude is your contact for Vehnn Tarev which is fine and it makes sense as to why he comes out to meet you. But the way he inserts himself into Ryder's narrative of Kadara "You need a friend in Kadara Port. I could be that guy, etc." and stuff he would high key send off warning signals for an experienced soldier like Shepard. (Of course I love him though.) Shepard's fatal flaw is that fact that she is refusing to trust him and not using him to his full potential. Just as I'm working through the narrative now, and he changes shit a lot because he's an amazing resource for her to have. However, Shepard has the shadow broker on the ship and intuition, can she really believe him when he says he wants to basically go on a suicide mission out of the goodness of his heart? Also I'm going back and forth tbh, I like the idea of Katia being with Thane in ME2 and it leading to her basically falling for Reyes in the end, but tbh, I keep going back and forth? It's pretty obvious with the shipping titles on archive that she ends up with Reyes in some capacity, so her grieving Thane and very quickly rebounding with Reyes might be unrealistic and make her unlikeable. I like Kaidan because I make poor life decisions, it's typically a coin toss between him and Garrus when I do OT (although I like Garrus more, I'm a little sentimental when it comes to Kaidan since I had a big crush on his ME3 appearance.) Also, will have to add that this helps a lot with rationalizing Kaidan and his bullshit (spoilered because the image is HUGE!)
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Post by Zitrus on Jan 15, 2018 0:35:04 GMT
Zitrus I honestly feel that Bioware left this game to die after Andromeda belly flopped. Not that I blame them, but I feel that they should've gambled by listening to plater concerns and what we liked and created a bitching DLC. Would it have been risky? Absolutely. But it isn't like Bioware has never done bomb ass DLC that blow it out of the park like Tresspasser and Citadel (I know its fan service, but Grunt's Hangover scene, Garrus's LI scenes, and Uncle Urdnot was worth the price alone.) But I guess EA wasn't going to take chances. Yes, this is just about the business for them. Although, you can never be 100% sure how it's going to turn out, could have been a hit, they probably saw it as too much as a risk to lose money. May you do well in the contest. And I like the title "Echoes in Neon". Sounds kinda cyberpunky. Ninja'd by Zitrus!! Oh, good old times are back! It was high time for that, been too long. You left a breadcrump that spoiled your presence so I had a hunch it would happen. If you look at the kiss, the bottle is just about to fall of Reyes’ hand, so I think it ended up rolling of the roof sooner or later. Didn’t look fancy enough to take with him to home and he’s probably not that sentimental. It's somehow fitting to imagine Sloane or Kaetus getting mad at their peons not finding the fancy whiskey later on, and then some guard tripping on the empty bottle the next morning. Nah, they only kiss one time and he holds it fast^^. He should have had time to set it down next to him. It's treasure after all, or so he say. Yes, it looks so plain, they should have made it golden like the one from the news . Lol, yes maybe she wanted to make a toast (to her "great leadership" ) with it but then it was nowhere to be found. I wonder where they got it. If someone took it with them when they left the Nexus (yes, they took provisions but that, hehe) or stole it later. Ah a little abatement for Reyes’ demands to have them stay inside the cave for weeks on end. They can ride the crate pulleys up and enjoy the slightly fresher air close to the surface. (Actually this is making Reyes sounds bad, isn’t it ) Yes^^. they can have their breaks up there. (A bit lol, but he runs a gang, it's to be expected the boss is not nice all the time.) Work with who, Ryder who hasn't been nice and cooperative enough? That would actually be pretty great and make sense, I thought this was about him sending a surrogate to the duel. Although I can't see it ending in something else than a proper shitstorm if a not-so-friendly Ryder happened to uncover the fact the Charlatan screwed them over. I wonder who'd he pick for such a job, though. It's too important to be handed to just anyone. (MaybeMr. Sniper Guy has one more secret talent?) Yeah, and then tell you to fuck off when you've displeased them enough Super-secret datapads don't look like something that would be of interest to your average Outcast, so maybe they could survive like that, though leaving the city till the storm blows over a bit seems like the most rational course of action. But then again, if Reyes himself disappeared, it might cast suspicion on him nobody would probably ever dream of coming up with if he stayed. Maybe he'd really have to sit tight and wait. Yes and in turn the whole AI. Hehe, yes, that's why he should keep it a secret. Well, it must be someone who is very loyal to Reyes and somewhat charismatic. I think it also depends on how they want to play it. Whether the person plays the fake Charlatan or says they're only a representative because the boss won't deal with people directly. They can have multiple people in this case. Yes, I think so. He can also spy a bit on the Outcasts' activities this way. He just needs to hang out in the bars and listen. To make room for another species, perhaps? They didn't look like they had bigger goals than the creation of a single species. Unless they had a Meridian for every such experiment, that is, in that case they could afford to have this one clogged with thousands of blueprints. True, but most Ryders will probably be driven by the gameplay mechanics at least a little and thus will take his *wink wink* as a shiny invitation to a new cool location full of Collective guys. Besides, for some Ryders it would make sense to want to know exactly what the Collective is up to. They can add rooms, or build other stations. I don't know if they have so many of them there. I think they have goals we don't know about. They might have created all the animals as well and who knows what lives in the other clusters. I would definitely have mine take a look. But it could be that you can tell Christmas from the outpost to settle in a different direction. But I think Reyes didn't descent from heaven, he came regularly through the door. If he came through a hole in the wall it would make for a different kind of entrance altogether Actually, he came in through the wall a secret door (you can hardly see it here but in the very beginning he has this toothy smile on his face). And he was nice enough to teach Ryder how to use it. First time, I sneaked in and took the calibrator. This time, I went through the front door, talked with the dude, won the dialogue battle and got him offer a deal to Jensen where he all but spelled out that later on he’ll expect Jensen to hurt someone for him. Jensen would NOT do that, so I bowed out, and went and stole the calibrator again, stealthily. But this is my angel-Jensen pt, and he shall do no harm at all. For my third pt I maybe will do everything I never dared do before. Right, he's not a hitman. Otar can expect what he wants, doesn't mean Adam will comply but rather try to solve things his own way. That was my plan and hope, that there'd be better options to handle his request, not just do as he says or ignore it. Now, if my hopes were crushed or not, I shan't say for spoiler reasons. Welcome to the no-kill side, have a cotton ball^^. Is knocking people out still okay for Adam Angel Jensen or is it a real ghost pt? I like that you can configure many guns for lethal or non-lethal this time around. Gave me more variety for my arsenal. Nah, I stole this model of adorable little guy from the cute animal thread because I couldn't part with the sight He was still around on my desktop when I got tired of thinking of my new avatar and now here he is. Does it look like a poor apartment to you, though? I think it's a poor apartment because it's in a poor aug quarter, and all the other apartments look like shit, exactly s they're expected to. The limited water supply just might be a thing, actually. Still ,too bad the animations don't repeat. What if someone just exited them due to impatience not knowing there's no way back? Oh, ok I found the thread (aww, why haven't I seen this before) and forced my self to not read all pages right now. No, it looks normal. Really, his neighbours should tidy up a bit. Of course I let myself in to check on them lol. Also that there's a weapons dealer in the apartment block. What a neighbourhood they force him to live in. Well, tough luck for the person I guess. One doesn't skip such things the first time around . Oh, they did To some of them at least. But still, a country of beer and they put weird Indian beers all over the place? Where's the logic in that? (My Jensen drinks Pilsner and it's hilarious, since it makes me think of a well known -and liked- Czech parody movie, where the super cool invincible American detective who came to Prague to solve a horrible crime goes discovering local beer ) They're not high in the offender list, though, my favorite is "Svobody beer", which is either supposed to be The Beer of Freedom or, Svoboda's (a common surname) beer, who knows. Indian beers, lol. I seldom let him have a drink. I think once or twice only. I'm horrible, I know, but he's on duty. That is too good a coincidence to pass up. There should be a remake of the parody made out of game footage. The freedom beer, I like that. Yeah, that one. You can also just speak to them and you get the calibrator peacefully, if you agree to helping them out later. Didn’t feel right to me, especially since lore-wise the calibrator isn’t even a vital thing for Jensen or Koller. If you’re Jensen at that moment, even if you figure that “well, I just won’t do it if they ask that I kill someone or something like that”, you should be able to figure that Koller might get harmed as a result of you breaking the deal. Dunno how those quests actually go, but I’ll see it in a future pt probably. I've recently got massively reprimanded for sneaking in. Apparently those quests we're missing are very long and cool, it was likened to not talking to Tong in HR It's going to be a challenge to make it fit Jensen, though, since it feels so much like an extortion an operative of Jensen's skill would be dumb not to go around, which is perfectly well in his power (only in the case he refuses and leaves, and then the calibrator gets lost, the Dvali might take it out on Koller anyway) Yes, lots of things one can consider for this quest. For the missions, the first one is rather short. Getting to the objective takes a while but you have to go in this direction anyway. The second one is longer though. If you ever play that one, the after-mission report could be, well, interesting. Maybe try to treat it as an investigation, you never know what leads you could find.
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Post by starlord on Jan 15, 2018 9:11:54 GMT
Yes, this is just about the business for them. Although, you can never be 100% sure how it's going to turn out, could have been a hit, they probably saw it as too much as a risk to lose money. Yeah- it's just butt tbh. I feel like a lot is counting on Anthem and (hopefully, DA4), but Andromeda being laughed at and EA being the composer of the most down voted Reddit comment of all time is freaking me out. I hope Bioware doesn't fall, a lot of people have been posting that EA wouldn't put a cash cow down, but with EA's comments about how no one wants to play a single player game (like The Last of Us, indie darling Life is Strange, Mario Odyssey, Legend of Zelda, Uncharted, etc. are chopped liver) it's just like... stranger things have happened. Exhibit A- I signed up for a game dev course (actually both excited and shitting myself over it tbh) (but I struggle with math and technology so this might end horrifically LOL) May you do well in the contest. And I like the title "Echoes in Neon". Sounds kinda cyberpunky. Thank you! I get money if they like it, so I'm hoping they do!!!! HAHA The title was inspired by Matt Murdock in The Defenders. He tells Jessica Jones that he can "still hear the neon." I made some adjustments and, after watching Atomic Blonde and it's neon everything aesthetic, I pieced them together. Matt Murdock is definitely not a bad image to have in your head when you're neck deep in prose and editing. media.giphy.com/media/S3PBQjMl2qJ4A/giphy.gif(Seriously Charlize Theron makes a damn good "fan cast" of FemShep.) images-production.global.ssl.fastly.net/uploads/posts/image/137944/atomic-blonde-main-image.jpg
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Post by BloodOfShiagur on Jan 17, 2018 14:46:48 GMT
i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/904/853/653.gifWell, I got to be honest: Ryder was extremely naive when it comes to Reyes. I mean the dude is your contact for Vehnn Tarev which is fine and it makes sense as to why he comes out to meet you. But the way he inserts himself into Ryder's narrative of Kadara "You need a friend in Kadara Port. I could be that guy, etc." and stuff he would high key send off warning signals for an experienced soldier like Shepard. (Of course I love him though.) Shepard's fatal flaw is that fact that she is refusing to trust him and not using him to his full potential. Just as I'm working through the narrative now, and he changes shit a lot because he's an amazing resource for her to have. However, Shepard has the shadow broker on the ship and intuition, can she really believe him when he says he wants to basically go on a suicide mission out of the goodness of his heart? Also I'm going back and forth tbh, I like the idea of Katia being with Thane in ME2 and it leading to her basically falling for Reyes in the end, but tbh, I keep going back and forth? It's pretty obvious with the shipping titles on archive that she ends up with Reyes in some capacity, so her grieving Thane and very quickly rebounding with Reyes might be unrealistic and make her unlikeable. I like Kaidan because I make poor life decisions, it's typically a coin toss between him and Garrus when I do OT (although I like Garrus more, I'm a little sentimental when it comes to Kaidan since I had a big crush on his ME3 appearance.) Also, will have to add that this helps a lot with rationalizing Kaidan and his bullshit (spoilered because the image is HUGE!) I think that depends on the Ryder. I always roleplayed mine as extremely wary of him, but at the same time quite taken with the way he carries himself. She knows he is too well informed about some things, too interested in others, and generally scoffs at him quite a lot yet during the Roekaar quest (the height of this comes with her reflection upon the issue when he claims he's good at getting people to talk. She clearly sees she might have fallen for it too and isn't happy about it) yet eventually goes with it because she's not as good at being all time responsible dutiful Pathfinder person as her father would have been, and unsuspecting Reyes' agenda would go as far as him being the Charlatan, she's glad to have a little off the record adventure. But good point about the Shepard part, now I'm quite curious how he'll actually end up proving his usefulness in the story, given that Shepard already has a trusty information provider. I don't know how it would make her unrealistic if you go about it right, and as far as I know characters without flaws are Mary Sues and no way realistic, so why not, really. Hmm, I see how that might work, but wouldn't it be the very opposite of rationalizing? It was high time for that, been too long. You left a breadcrump that spoiled your presence so I had a hunch it would happen. Yeah, definitely. I was getting to feel too safe without the ever present threat of being ninja'd every time I'm writing a post Yes and in turn the whole AI. Hehe, yes, that's why he should keep it a secret. Well, it must be someone who is very loyal to Reyes and somewhat charismatic. I think it also depends on how they want to play it. Whether the person plays the fake Charlatan or says they're only a representative because the boss won't deal with people directly. They can have multiple people in this case. Yes, I think so. He can also spy a bit on the Outcasts' activities this way. He just needs to hang out in the bars and listen. Depends on who would get to deal with him, I think. The AI might as well not be all that interested in who the Charlatan is, as long as the partnership stayed profitable. Unless of course Ryder got so pissed off they'd ruin the Collective's prospects with the whole AI somehow. Sure, let's hope Reyes has suitable people at his disposal, though. No matter whether the person pretends to be the Charlatan or just the go-to Charlatan agent, the Collective needs good representation. Multiple people would be good too when the business starts flowing, a bit like the Shadow broker agents. Hehe, that would surely give him no trouble. He's already proved that skill when he lookd up the information about the Collective. They can add rooms, or build other stations. I don't know if they have so many of them there. I think they have goals we don't know about. They might have created all the animals as well and who knows what lives in the other clusters. I would definitely have mine take a look. But it could be that you can tell Christmas from the outpost to settle in a different direction. Yeah, the station looked like it could probably be infinitely expanded. For all we know they might have created everything in whole Andromeda, or on the other hand never get further than the angara due to the opposition (whoever it was) cutting all their life form creation experiment short. I think Reyes would be disappointed otherwise But the Christmas thing makes sense, the Collective can probably entertain only so many visitors and the factins need to play nice. Actually, he came in through the wall a secret door (you can hardly see it here but in the very beginning he has this toothy smile on his face). No fucking way!!! Reyes can pass through walls like a pro (so no wonder he's smiling, who wouldn't be?). Suddenly the whole "Charlatan is a boogeyman" thing makes even more sense. I wonder where he learned that. Oh, ok I found the thread (aww, why haven't I seen this before) and forced my self to not read all pages right now. No, it looks normal. Really, his neighbours should tidy up a bit. Of course I let myself in to check on them lol. Also that there's a weapons dealer in the apartment block. What a neighbourhood they force him to live in. Well, tough luck for the person I guess. One doesn't skip such things the first time around "] . Why not? It's constantly updated with new animal cuteness, so why not go for it? Well, he's Jensen, he'd have his apartment all fancy even if he was living in some shack under the bridge or the like But I think he could be doing worse yet, that building is still pretty fine. And he must really appreciate the arms (and praxis kits) dealer so close. Sure, one has to know what kind of people share the building with him. I usually get quite itchy for progress after long intros myself so I don't find it that improbable. And really, why shouldn't one have a chance to enjoy a moment of watching the protag watch the TV anytime they want? Indian beers, lol. I seldom let him have a drink. I think once or twice only. I'm horrible, I know, but he's on duty. That is too good a coincidence to pass up. There should be a remake of the parody made out of game footage. The freedom beer, I like that. At least one of them is, I believe. I haven't yet examined all of them. But.. all that alcohol is just laying aound, begging to be stolen, how can you resist it, especially when you consider Jensen never seems to be impaired for long by drinking? Yeah, but in that he'd also need a Czech policeman to take him to the beer tour, and I don't know who could play the part suitably in MD. But Jensen is a lonely character, he could probably manage on his own. But the more I think of it, some reference to it would be hilarious. It's... revolutionary, isn't it? All the Samizdat guys should be drinking it Yes, lots of things one can consider for this quest. For the missions, the first one is rather short. Getting to the objective takes a while but you have to go in this direction anyway. The second one is longer though. If you ever play that one, the after-mission report could be, well, interesting. Maybe try to treat it as an investigation, you never know what leads you could find. Well, maybe next time. I'm not that good at keeping away from additional content. See, that's the way to get me into it for sure. Now I totally want to see what it's about. Too bad it probably doesn't lead to more Koller presence.
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Post by starlord on Jan 17, 2018 17:22:13 GMT
I think that depends on the Ryder. I always roleplayed mine as extremely wary of him, but at the same time quite taken with the way he carries himself. She knows he is too well informed about some things, too interested in others, and generally scoffs an him quite a lot yet during the Roekaar quest (the height of this comes with her reflection upon the issue when he claims he's good at getting people to talk. She clearly sees she might have fallen for it too and isn't happy about it) yet eventually goes with it because she's not as good at being all time responsible dutiful Pathfinder person as her father would have been, and unsuspecting Reyes' agenda would go as far as him being the Charlatan, she's glad to have a little off the record adventure. But good point about the Shepard part, now I'm quite curious how he'll actually end up proving his usefulness in the story, given that Shepard already has a trusty information provider. I don't know how it would make her unrealistic if you go about it right, and as far as I know characters without flaws are Mary Sues and no way realistic, so why not, really. Hmm, I see how that might work, but wouldn't it be the very opposite of rationalizing? Ah I see, I tried to make my Ryder as "I know what you're doing and I don't like it" as possible, but that shit was very difficult to do. I never felt like my Ryder was really like "I kinda like you, but I'm just going to be overly sarcastic in an attempt to wave you off, even though I know it won't work." (Which was what I was going for.) Yeah, but it's just like, Thane is a great character and I was scared of making whoever reads it mad that he's getting brushed aside because he's dying. However, I kind of feel like Thane would want Shepard to find someone else, especially since she was there for Koylatt. He would want his son to have someone that was close to his father to be there for him, so by extension, he'd want Shepard to meet someone and be happy. The way he's written makes doing that easier, idk, I'll see how it works. I hope it works! Oscar Isaac is a very beautiful man and, if they made a Mass Effect movie (hopefully not a retelling of the story, maybe just stories set in that universe) I think he would make a great Kaidan. IDK Oscar does a great job in strengthening and portraying one note characters as multi-faceted. Also he's gorgeous, so that helps!
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Post by orchid on Jan 18, 2018 12:01:25 GMT
True. (Btw, Reyes cheating on Ryder is a rather horrifying thought for some reason) Think house keys are still a thing in ME? If indeed Ryder ends up with a different home than the Tempest? Well, celibate would be a nice and very appreciated option in that case But I think Reyes didn't descent from heaven, he came regularly through the door. If he came through a hole in the wall it would make for a different kind of entrance altogether I think Jacob is the only LI who ever cheated on the PC. It’s just not done. Maybe the thought is horrifying, because it’s something that might actually happen? Reyes certainly isn’t fawning over Ryder and it seems clear he might dump Ryder if their interests conflicted too much, or if Ryder became preachy maybe. He’s also dishonorable. Even though that’s not IMO enough to brand him a potential cheater, it wouldn’t be inconceivable either. He’s well-written enough that we can’t just assume him to sit there pretty, ready to serve on Ryder’s whim. Still, ultimately I think he's not the type to go that far, because of the reservation he showed in wanting to wait until Ryder knew about the Charlatan business before committing - he has certain principles. At most, I think he could meet another person, fall for them and maybe even fuck them, but then he'd break up with Ryder immediately afterwards. I don't see him carrying another affair behind Ryder's back (or am I being too starry-eyes again? ) House keys figuratively, if you’ll graciously allow it. The Tempest is just a work place as far as I’m concerned, which may be because of my adverse reaction to the attempts at forced camaradie. Daddy’s old quarters on the human ark are Ryder’s home, except they have to share that with the sibling. But if Peebee can afford quarters of her own, probably Ryder can get such accommodation as well. I don't know why you’re being literal about everything, but I can’t muster the energy to be cute about it today. But the idea I got from the High noon fail was that the Collective was badly damaged and scrambling to live, but not gone altogether. When Reyes suggests this is not the end in the e-mails, he sounds like he's going to rebuild and take the Port anyway, [--] That’s his intention, but for the sake of choices mattering, hopefully not successful. I don't know, in that case I just insert a default "in my opinion" everywhere. Ryder isn't a set character, they can't be discussed as one. The unpaid drinks already? But he even made up for that with a pretty rare expensive whiskey. The voice acting is just another thing to be omitted when it doesn't fit, just like a line of dialogue. But even taking in account the female VA I could pretty well imagine Ryder starting to steam about it but then immediately chiiling, telling herself she couldn't have expected any better. I don’t think you did that, actually. Stiffing the bill is a pretty bad sign, yeah, most people IRL would probably balk at that. I don’t act in the best interest of my player characters, so they have to deal. If the bad impression gets made at that point, however, it’s hard for any future amend to patch things up. The stolen whisky isn’t a considerate gesture for the date either; Ryder merely gets to share the spoils by the virtue of being present, so it wouldn’t do much if they ever get there in the first place. As for voice acting, single line said the wrong way can be ignored, but if the direction of the voice acting for the entire character gives certain air, it’s that much harder to act against it. At least for me it is, since voices affect me strongly. The French f!Ryder came across as professional and knowing her self-worth (+ dressed in hexagons), so she has her standards set higher than getting left with the bill by a low-life. Although I guess it would've been fun to test that - with english!Reyes I probably would've...I demand Drack be pulled out of the Black Hole Cthulhu maw, he's too old and not pleasing to Cthulhu palate anyway And since the minor characters also count, Bain Massani and that totally inconsequential but cool af Turian girl you pull out of cryo earlier and she tells you where Kett have their supplies in the cluster. They'd make for great future NPCs. Fuck, I think I've forgotten the militia... Kandros. That's the Nexus one. Drack was passable, but not actually good by his own merits. I’d leave him a peripheral character, while stocking the squad with better people. I don’t understand why people like Bain Massani. He was a forced reference, much like Conrad’s sister, only worse because Bain was apparently intended to live up to Zaeed’s badassery. Easter Eggs ought to be discreet IMO. Nah, they only kiss one time and he holds it fast^^. He should have had time to set it down next to him. It's treasure after all, or so he say. Yes, it looks so plain, they should have made it golden like the one from the news . Lol, yes maybe she wanted to make a toast (to her "great leadership" ) with it but then it was nowhere to be found. I wonder where they got it. If someone took it with them when they left the Nexus (yes, they took provisions but that, hehe) or stole it later. Not if you look at the flycam, it’s all but falling off. In the narrative, yeah, he probably took it with him without any further incidents, sure. Actually, he came in through the wall a secret door (you can hardly see it here but in the very beginning he has this toothy smile on his face). And he was nice enough to teach Ryder how to use it. Makes sense, otherwise he’d be T-posing in midst of the other customers before the cutscene started. Is there an invisible room behind the wall where he disappeared, to store the model?
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Post by BloodOfShiagur on Jan 21, 2018 12:10:36 GMT
Ah I see, I tried to make my Ryder as "I know what you're doing and I don't like it" as possible, but that shit was very difficult to do. I never felt like my Ryder was really like "I kinda like you, but I'm just going to be overly sarcastic in an attempt to wave you off, even though I know it won't work." (Which was what I was going for.) Yeah, but it's just like, Thane is a great character and I was scared of making whoever reads it mad that he's getting brushed aside because he's dying. However, I kind of feel like Thane would want Shepard to find someone else, especially since she was there for Koylatt. He would want his son to have someone that was close to his father to be there for him, so by extension, he'd want Shepard to meet someone and be happy. The way he's written makes doing that easier, idk, I'll see how it works. I hope it works! Oscar Isaac is a very beautiful man and, if they made a Mass Effect movie (hopefully not a retelling of the story, maybe just stories set in that universe) I think he would make a great Kaidan. IDK Oscar does a great job in strengthening and portraying one note characters as multi-faceted. Also he's gorgeous, so that helps! I think it can work quite easily, it's not like Shepard didn't know Thane was dying, and I think I remember one of them mentioning that they knew it was just for a while. If it doesn't happen two hours after he's dead or something, it should be fine. Respect for the Kolyat thing, though, I can't stand the whiny brat. He'd be pretty much on his own Any progress with the fic by now? I think Jacob is the only LI who ever cheated on the PC. It’s just not done. Maybe the thought is horrifying, because it’s something that might actually happen? Reyes certainly isn’t fawning over Ryder and it seems clear he might dump Ryder if their interests conflicted too much, or if Ryder became preachy maybe. He’s also dishonorable. Even though that’s not IMO enough to brand him a potential cheater, it wouldn’t be inconceivable either. He’s well-written enough that we can’t just assume him to sit there pretty, ready to serve on Ryder’s whim. Still, ultimately I think he's not the type to go that far, because of the reservation he showed in wanting to wait until Ryder knew about the Charlatan business before committing - he has certain principles. At most, I think he could meet another person, fall for them and maybe even fuck them, but then he'd break up with Ryder immediately afterwards. I don't see him carrying another affair behind Ryder's back (or am I being too starry-eyes again? ) Maybe it's not done for a reason, though. Even if I like not-so-ideal scenarios because of the added RP possibilities, there is this thing called too much realism, and who would enjoy dealing with that. Anyway, in Reyes's case it's not unthinkable, but I hope they'd at least go about it in some clever way and it wouldn't be a part of a plot aiming to make him an insufferable pain in the ass like Jacob was in his quest, romanced or not. To be honest, at discovering the flirt options I thought Reyes was going to be a fling at best, not a full fledged LI and I kind of imagined him cheating on Ryder the first chance he gets anyway in any other case. Which is due to the dishonorable part, I guess. But you make a good point about the whole commitment business, so who knows, really. He's generally interestingly willing to commit to Ryder, given that shifty style of his. Maybe he'd tell Ryder and risk endangering their possibly profitable alliance... That’s his intention, but for the sake of choices mattering, hopefully not successful. I somehow can't help but think the High noon choice lets you decide primarily about one thing and that's the fate of Sloane Kelly (and consequently some Port leadership issues, yeah). We all know how any half-assed attempts to decide about Reyes end, and I'd like to think it's there for other reasons than trolling the players. It's quite fitting Ryder doesn't succeed in shooting him, actually. They never have much control over what he does, and almost zero chance to influence it. I don’t think you did that, actually. Stiffing the bill is a pretty bad sign, yeah, most people IRL would probably balk at that. I don’t act in the best interest of my player characters, so they have to deal. If the bad impression gets made at that point, however, it’s hard for any future amend to patch things up. The stolen whisky isn’t a considerate gesture for the date either; Ryder merely gets to share the spoils by the virtue of being present, so it wouldn’t do much if they ever get there in the first place. As for voice acting, single line said the wrong way can be ignored, but if the direction of the voice acting for the entire character gives certain air, it’s that much harder to act against it. At least for me it is, since voices affect me strongly. The French f!Ryder came across as professional and knowing her self-worth (+ dressed in hexagons), so she has her standards set higher than getting left with the bill by a low-life. Although I guess it would've been fun to test that - with english!Reyes I probably would've...Sure it is, but I'd consider it more of a sign if Reyes just casually walked up to Ryder and wanted to make an acquaintance, or if he actually left them with the bill after their meeting in Kralla's during the Zia quest. During their first meeting it pretty much looked like a part of the business transaction between them, not really anything personal. Ryder was the one who needed the info, after all, so why not pay for the provider's drinks. Yeah, the provider didn't really ask their opinion on the matter before he went for it, but still, business Hmm, now that you've said it, I'm starting to wonder whether Reyes had any intention of sharing that bottle if he weren't caught red handed in the first place. Testing that would almost be too much fun to pass up ( Oh, right, she wears hexagons. The shape is spreading. ) Too bad there isn't something like selective voice acting, people have translators in ME anyway, what would be the big deal... Drack was passable, but not actually good by his own merits. I’d leave him a peripheral character, while stocking the squad with better people. I don’t understand why people like Bain Massani. He was a forced reference, much like Conrad’s sister, only worse because Bain was apparently intended to live up to Zaeed’s badassery. Easter Eggs ought to be discreet IMO. I liked Drack. Maybe it was the lack of more interesting characters, but he was not bad nevertheless. As for Bain, well, maybe it helps that I don't pay all that much attention to the Easter egg angle. He shows more character in his five minutes of screen time than many of the ones with much bigger parts to play ever do. Zaeed or no Zaeed, to me that's the only thing that counts. Oh, I would’ve thought they’d just shoot at Jensen right away. What a shameful display from Jensen. How does that encounter go exactly, do they let you leave the casino all shamed or does it result in firefight? I actually haven't even tried speaking to them, they looked like they weren't open to negotiations and why negotiate indeed if I can just steal my calibrator and no one gets the wiser Hee, it would be, wouldn't it? But it's not the only one failed convo that would make him look like that. (It's probably still more of a shame to lose to Taggart) But now I'm tempted to try exactly that, so I'll get back to you on how it went. He wears clothing most of the time, and I guess he stands out in a crowd anyway, same as the other Tyrants. As long as Namir has a shirt on, he’s maybe the most inconspicuous of the trio, in fact. (Now if only I knew how Federova manages to stay upright with her en pointe feet.) I don’t know who’d want that, maybe it’s just for super-soldiers that haven’t got that much choice, or the classic ancient rich person that wants renewed youth in a strong body (I guess they’d have face implants as well). Yeah, but there's standing out as in having a few artificial limbs, and as in not having skin Fedorova probably had a long of experience with wearing high heels and then got some training. Or maybe it's like walking on those piratey wooden legs. Btw does someone refer to the infamous trio as Tyrants? I must've missed it in the game. I think this would still be drastic enough for soldiers to end their contracts over, if they were allowed to do it, that is. Or maybe poor Namir was just an experiment, a kind of "let's see if this shit is any good". Rich person preservation sounds like a great plan what to do with such a tech, though. Maybe that's where the aug tech could've bee n headed in some small insignificant way? Immortality would be the ultimate kind of aug anyway. Moat? I’ll have you know I’ve put half my skill points into swimming during my recent bog-related escapades. It's nice of you to tell me So, a half, you say? That's a lot, which of course greatly reduces the chances of you either EMP- or shark-proofing yourself, or investing in other skills you might need along the way, even though of course I have to consider I'm not aware of your current level and perks taken. By the way, have you seen those nice reports on latest volcano activity? Not yet, but I suppose I’ll need to be careful too. I’d hate for a random KO’d person dying by themselves ruining my ultimate pacifist run. I guess that could be attributed, lore-wise, to Jensen being careless and his victims just choking on their own vomit without Jensen carefully checking that they’re ok before he moves on. I just cloaked and moved fast at the office, no biggie. The police are pigs, they get what’s coming to them, and only reason Jensen should be careful about them is that if a policeman gets treated rough, it’ll be used as an excuse to exact vengeance on random augmented civilians. By this reasoning I didn’t kill police during my first pt. But eventually I’ll do a run where people will die a lot more (next pt, when I also see what the big deal w/ accepting Dvali’s offer is). Yeah, and now imagine some unfair NPC will die out of spite anyway, ungrateful for Jensen's efforts to save everyone's ass. I think the pacifist run shouldn't really be as strict as not a single soul dying, that's almost undoable. Ha, if he had to stop to check on everyone, that would make for the ultimate angel Jensen run. Especially when this can be prevented by just punching everyone, which is probably still the best takedown type (but those attacks from cover come close second) Ah, the cloak. It's also one of those useful augs I never get to spend points on till pretty late in the game. (Hacking comes first and all ). Agreed completely about the police. Actually I killed a whole lot of them in Útulek once (starting with the group that are kicking the aug when Jensen first arrives), but then got despondent about the backlash it would most likely bring the local augs, and reloaded. I did that at least one more time, actually. But, well, the what good would it be angle always prevails. Rather than exotic insects as interesting, beautiful and rare creatures, they’re pests that get exterminated presumably by gassing. I’m only half joking, too, considering how heavy-handed the allegories in general in this game are. I'm not sure if ants and roaches count as anything but pests anywhere, but I see your point. My most probable guess was that it could have something to do with Kafka (and that one who knows why famous story where the protagonist turns into a roach). They've already started bringing Čapek into it, so why not Kafka too. But since it deals with a man suddenly turning into an insect, we're back with your theory no matter what.
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Post by starlord on Jan 23, 2018 10:00:15 GMT
I think it can work quite easily, it's not like Shepard didn't know Thane was dying, and I think I remember one of them mentioning that they knew it was just for a while. If it doesn't happen two hours after he's dead or something, it should be fine. Respect for the Kolyat thing, though, I can't stand the whiny brat. He'd be pretty much on his own Any progress with the fic by now? I mean... it would be darkly hilarious to have a My Immortal type dialogue/romance between the two 2.5 seconds after Thane is put to rest. ( I am a terrible, terrible human) Fic is going well- with my internship, things are slowing down, but I think I'll have a good editing session for it soon and it should be up! I'll drop the link here
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Post by orchid on Jan 23, 2018 11:08:27 GMT
Maybe it's not done for a reason, though. Even if I like not-so-ideal scenarios because of the added RP possibilities, there is this thing called too much realism, and who would enjoy dealing with that. Anyway, in Reyes's case it's not unthinkable, but I hope they'd at least go about it in some clever way and it wouldn't be a part of a plot aiming to make him an insufferable pain in the ass like Jacob was in his quest, romanced or not. To be honest, at discovering the flirt options I thought Reyes was going to be a fling at best, not a full fledged LI and I kind of imagined him cheating on Ryder the first chance he gets anyway in any other case. Which is due to the dishonorable part, I guess. But you make a good point about the whole commitment business, so who knows, really. He's generally interestingly willing to commit to Ryder, given that shifty style of his. Maybe he'd tell Ryder and risk endangering their possibly profitable alliance... Certainly. The ol' dilemma between depriving the player of agency and overt power-fantasy... They actually did some interesting things with Jacob, where Shep could demand too strongly that he open up to her leading into him dumping her right then and there. Too bad that they dumped all the experimentality into one or two characters (and with Jacob culminated it with the terribly handled cheating thing – Thane as a dying lover was pretty good afaik, the old dead-wife-syndrome aside), while the demure little lady LIs remained forever deferential towards m!Shepard. Reyes seems like a perfect balance between those sorts of romances, lacking only in more content. I will be interesting to compare Reyes to Deadfire’s approach when it comes out. Yeah, I didn’t really consider about the “real” LI vs. fling aspect of Reyes, I just took whatever scraps they were willing to give. The bolded part is interesting, and it's the first I’ve heard someone thinking this, it didn’t cross my mind or at least not in such terms. Most I could see, would've been Ryder and Reyes hooking up sort of casually and w/o any further plans, and Reyes having other people in his life without commitment to any one person, whereupon him sleeping around wouldn’t count as cheating. That was somewhat akin to my initial impression, so almost similar as yours. Sort of refreshing approach among all the avowals of eternal love. But as we can see from his flycam terrible grin, Reyes is smitten with Ryder as well. It can be a two-way street, he’s not immune either, just not to the degree to do anything overtly foolish. And since we’ve established that the Heleus dating scene is a cesspit, he might just as well commit to the beautiful/handsome Pathfinder anyway. But I wonder what it’ll do to the alliance if either of them hooks up with someone else and has to admit to it? I somehow can't help but think the High noon choice lets you decide primarily about one thing and that's the fate of Sloane Kelly (and consequently some Port leadership issues, yeah). We all know how any half-assed attempts to decide about Reyes end, and I'd like to think it's there for other reasons than trolling the players. It's quite fitting Ryder doesn't succeed in shooting him, actually. They never have much control over what he does, and almost zero chance to influence it. I saw the choice as a faction choice, which in a full-fledged RPG would be designed in more divergent path and possibly even result in actual changes either in game world already or at least in the ending slides. Thus I hold it important that if you choose the Outcasts, the Outcasts should rule, or at least all the while they ruled, it would result in tangible results even if a third power swoops in and takes over. It’s impossible to say if Reyes’ plot armor was intended as a sign that he’ll get the Port anyway later our choices be damned, or something else. As long as there would've been consequences and our choice was acknowledged, even Reyes succeeding later on via some other scheme could work beautifully, but I doubt how much resources BioWare would've put to that, if they were intending a sequel. Sure it is, but I'd consider it more of a sign if Reyes just casually walked up to Ryder and wanted to make an acquaintance, or if he actually left them with the bill after their meeting in Kralla's during the Zia quest. During their first meeting it pretty much looked like a part of the business transaction between them, not really anything personal. Ryder was the one who needed the info, after all, so why not pay for the provider's drinks. Yeah, the provider didn't really ask their opinion on the matter before he went for it, but still, business Hmm, now that you've said it, I'm starting to wonder whether Reyes had any intention of sharing that bottle if he weren't caught red handed in the first place. Testing that would almost be too much fun to pass up (Oh, right, she wears hexagons. The shape is spreading. ) Too bad there isn't something like selective voice acting, people have translators in ME anyway, what would be the big deal... It’s not a personal slight at all, true, but it’s a tell about what kind of person Reyes is. It doesn’t even have to relate to any potential relationship prospect, and neither was it any actual problem for Ryder that the Initiative has to pay 5 measly credits for a beer. Seeing this seemingly tiny, inconsequential gesture merely works as an indicator for Ryder's character evaluation of Reyes, where their first impression of someone would be that they’re not the dependable type. Well, Reyes did say that him fucking off would be for both their benefit. I’d like to think here that he did intend to wow Ryder with the bottle. He wanted it for his personal use anyway, not to sell it further, so why not maximize the enjoyment by sharing it with his someone special? Selective VA, now that's a genius' idea. Even better if it came with selective subtitles – just switch the dumbest characters to speaking a language you don’t know and leave it without subs, and you won’t need to even pay attention. (Hexagons are everywhere… something to consider... mysterious ellipses...)
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Post by BloodOfShiagur on Jan 27, 2018 17:55:10 GMT
I mean... it would be darkly hilarious to have a My Immortal type dialogue/romance between the two 2.5 seconds after Thane is put to rest. ( I am a terrible, terrible human) Fic is going well- with my internship, things are slowing down, but I think I'll have a good editing session for it soon and it should be up! I'll drop the link here 2.5 seconds? I mean, she wouldn't even have time to rush out of the door. I'm not sure how even someone like Reyes would react to such a development, but what the hell, I'm way too much into dark comedy not to appreciate this, I'm afraid. And maybe I'm just the tiniest bit reminded of my first pt of ME3. "He's dead. Aw, that's terrible. That's heartbreaking. *RPing poor devastated Shepard breaking down over it* Am I actually feeling teary because of a game character dying? Can I romance Garrus now?" Certainly. The ol' dilemma between depriving the player of agency and overt power-fantasy... They actually did some interesting things with Jacob, where Shep could demand too strongly that he open up to her leading into him dumping her right then and there. Too bad that they dumped all the experimentality into one or two characters (and with Jacob culminated it with the terribly handled cheating thing – Thane as a dying lover was pretty good afaik, the old dead-wife-syndrome aside), while the demure little lady LIs remained forever deferential towards m!Shepard. Reyes seems like a perfect balance between those sorts of romances, lacking only in more content. I will be interesting to compare Reyes to Deadfire’s approach when it comes out. Yeah, I didn’t really consider about the “real” LI vs. fling aspect of Reyes, I just took whatever scraps they were willing to give. The bolded part is interesting, and it's the first I’ve heard someone thinking this, it didn’t cross my mind or at least not in such terms. Most I could see, would've been Ryder and Reyes hooking up sort of casually and w/o any further plans, and Reyes having other people in his life without commitment to any one person, whereupon him sleeping around wouldn’t count as cheating. That was somewhat akin to my initial impression, so almost similar as yours. Sort of refreshing approach among all the avowals of eternal love. But as we can see from his flycam terrible grin, Reyes is smitten with Ryder as well. It can be a two-way street, he’s not immune either, just not to the degree to do anything overtly foolish. And since we’ve established that the Heleus dating scene is a cesspit, he might just as well commit to the beautiful/handsome Pathfinder anyway. But I wonder what it’ll do to the alliance if either of them hooks up with someone else and has to admit to it? I still think the only interesting thing about Jacob was his transformation from a boring guy into an utter ass Thane on the other hand was great, too bad Garrus still wins hands down. Since not everyone is into experiments, I guess we should be glad we got these at least. Agreed with the Reyes stuff, plus it's interesting to have a romance tied to a specific plot arc, possibly a future power player, not a squad or crewmate all the time. Another experiment that went quite well, as far as I'm concerned. It was mostly because he was a NPC that came out of nowhere in the middle of the game to give a bit of info and assist in a quest. This kind of thing has never lead anywhere in any game I've played, so of course I was skeptical Besides, he somehow didn't seem as romance material due to that "cheaty" impression (as in that he probably says this to all the Pathfinders but just in a way of teasing, not really being all that interested. No "potential cheater" brand). As far as fist impressions go, this is pretty interesting, though, since we've agreed that Reyes actually can't have had that many lovers in Andromeda and approaches the whole thing with caution. So, a pretty false first impression, then? (But there were avowals of no more secrets, mind you. who knows what we could expect from Reyes in the future ) Hey, maybe Ryder's comment just sparked his vanity like that, you never know I think I've objected a bit in this case, and I still do. It's Ryder's dating options that aren't stellar, but Reyes has whole Kadara and maybe Elaaden to pick from for all we know. Thus, more options. None of them may still be as handsome, flashy, powerful and good for business as the Pathfinder, but the feeling of a LI coming in times of complete despair must still be lessened by it. Unless of course Reyes absolutely requires those qualities, period. Maybe that ultimately depends on how mature they manage to be about it and how much of a slight that hookup actually is. (Buut, I'd still think it funny to have Ryder give Reyes shit for shagging some random Tartarus broad and threatening it will have consequences for the Collective/Nexus alliance) I saw the choice as a faction choice, which in a full-fledged RPG would be designed in more divergent path and possibly even result in actual changes either in game world already or at least in the ending slides. Thus I hold it important that if you choose the Outcasts, the Outcasts should rule, or at least all the while they ruled, it would result in tangible results even if a third power swoops in and takes over. It’s impossible to say if Reyes’ plot armor was intended as a sign that he’ll get the Port anyway later our choices be damned, or something else. As long as there would've been consequences and our choice was acknowledged, even Reyes succeeding later on via some other scheme could work beautifully, but I doubt how much resources BioWare would've put to that, if they were intending a sequel. Oh, I never intended to hint at Reyes taking the Port as effortlessly anyway, even though that's the kind of choice negation that would probably happen, maybe even would be foreshadowed in the ending slides if they mentioned how things look future-wise for them. I'd expect casualties, shitstorm, no Keema and not as smooth transition by a long shot, maybe some results from the Outcasts fucking the place up too. I don't know if it was about the Port, but there had better be some reason. Wouldn't putting a plot armor on a character that's bound to become irrelevant and die in some dark corner of the cluster never to be heard of again, and making a tease-interrupt to show it off, be a rather odd decision? Especially if you consider they must've known there would be people who just want to kill him and be done with it at that point. It’s not a personal slight at all, true, but it’s a tell about what kind of person Reyes is. It doesn’t even have to relate to any potential relationship prospect, and neither was it any actual problem for Ryder that the Initiative has to pay 5 measly credits for a beer. Seeing this seemingly tiny, inconsequential gesture merely works as an indicator for Ryder's character evaluation of Reyes, where their first impression of someone would be that they’re not the dependable type. Well, Reyes did say that him fucking off would be for both their benefit. I’d like to think here that he did intend to wow Ryder with the bottle. He wanted it for his personal use anyway, not to sell it further, so why not maximize the enjoyment by sharing it with his someone special? Selective VA, now that's a genius' idea. Even better if it came with selective subtitles – just switch the dumbest characters to speaking a language you don’t know and leave it without subs, and you won’t need to even pay attention. (Hexagons are everywhere… something to consider... mysterious ellipses...) Point taken, but his not being a dependable type might well mean nothing at that specific point, then, unless it would also convince Ryder not to work with him further at all, not even on those quests (thus causing them to never make it to the end of the arc, yep) Who knows what else he was planning to steal in the storage before Ryder interrupted him But yeah, you're very likely right. Poor Mr. Sniper guy isn't special enough, though? . I wonder how the quest would proceed if Ryder didn't look for him (hm, wouldn't it actually be interesting if there was such an option? ) Yay, you know, I can come up with a few characters not only in MEA where I'd love such an option to bits. Not like all their dialogue weren't "blah, blah, blah" anyway. And it would be fun. The best thing about it is that subs can be switched off pretty easily, so no extra work ( something world-shattering approaches?)
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Post by Zitrus on Jan 28, 2018 22:04:21 GMT
Ah, a new order for the threads in this section. No more scrolling down and we're at the top. Depends on who would get to deal with him, I think. The AI might as well not be all that interested in who the Charlatan is, as long as the partnership stayed profitable. Unless of course Ryder got so pissed off they'd ruin the Collective's prospects with the whole AI somehow. Sure, let's hope Reyes has suitable people at his disposal, though. No matter whether the person pretends to be the Charlatan or just the go-to Charlatan agent, the Collective needs good representation. Multiple people would be good too when the business starts flowing, a bit like the Shadow broker agents. Hehe, that would surely give him no trouble. He's already proved that skill when he lookd up the information about the Collective. I don't know. I think they would at least try to find out. I can't imagine Tann not being curious about the real identity. Not if you look at the flycam, it’s all but falling off. In the narrative, yeah, he probably took it with him without any further incidents, sure. I did. It looked okay in a video I still have. When I looked again from the other side because I was in the game anyway I think some fingers glitched through it a bit though. It didn't look as nice. However, you've probably seen this, when he's waiting for Ryder's last answer it's actually stuck in the box and he's holding thin air. Makes sense, otherwise he’d be T-posing in midst of the other customers before the cutscene started. Is there an invisible room behind the wall where he disappeared, to store the model? As soon as the cutscene starts he's waiting under the stairs in a normal pose. That's pretty clever actually. Who knows what else he was planning to steal in the storage before Ryder interrupted him But yeah, you're very likely right. Poor Mr. Sniper guy isn't special enough, though? . I wonder how the quest would proceed if Ryder didn't look for him (hm, wouldn't it actually be interesting if there was such an option? ) Yay, you know, I can come up with a few characters not only in MEA where I'd love such an option to bits. Not like all their dialogue weren't "blah, blah, blah" anyway. And it would be fun. The best thing about it is that subs can be switched off pretty easily, so no extra work ( something world-shattering approaches?) He could come back to the party and then say let's go somewhere else. If Ryder stayed that is. If you could just leave he might share it with Keema or keep it and maybe be a bit disappointed if they were on the flirty path. Or how about we finally hear the alien languages. They have translators but if someone were annoying, in reality you could turn it off and ignore the person. *The X-Files Theme* Okay, I'm breaking silence before the storm in the spoiler section. Why not? It's constantly updated with new animal cuteness, so why not go for it? Because it was late when I wrote this. Well, he's Jensen, he'd have his apartment all fancy even if he was living in some shack under the bridge or the like But I think he could be doing worse yet, that building is still pretty fine. And he must really appreciate the arms (and praxis kits) dealer so close. Sure, one has to know what kind of people share the building with him. I usually get quite itchy for progress after long intros myself so I don't find it that improbable. And really, why shouldn't one have a chance to enjoy a moment of watching the protag watch the TV anytime they want? I would be worried if there was an armory in my block. I'm not saying they shouldn't have the chance but there's alyways the possibility of such things being a one-time thing, so I don't skip them. I would have added a third option for the TV, "sit down" and made the shower repeatable because it's already in the game anyway, but I'm not a programmer. At least one of them is, I believe. I haven't yet examined all of them. But.. all that alcohol is just laying aound, begging to be stolen, how can you resist it, especially when you consider Jensen never seems to be impaired for long by drinking? Yeah, but in that he'd also need a Czech policeman to take him to the beer tour, and I don't know who could play the part suitably in MD. But Jensen is a lonely character, he could probably manage on his own. But the more I think of it, some reference to it would be hilarious. It's... revolutionary, isn't it? All the Samizdat guys should be drinking it Oh, I stole the bottles and then sold them, I made good money. I didn't read the descriptions for most of them though. So I went back to look what I actually carried. I had lots ob Absinthe and Brown Ale (you can even read the ingredients on the bottle for that one.) I found the Indian beer, hooray. And while I was at it, I let him drink as much as possible. He can only drink a certain amount at once and then he was drunk for quite a while xD. There's this old police detective in a larger side quest, you've probably met him by now. Maybe he can be the one. While I was looking around I noticed something odd about the trash containers I didn't see when I played properly. Take a look. Why would there be incorrect German on them? (Plaststoffe is what they wanted to say, although Kunststoff or Plastik would be better.) For the tourists? It's even on some glass containers. So I was curious and looked for the real ones and found they made them pretty similar looking in the game. Apart from some of the labelling. And I like papír because we have Papier. Wow, Czech can be easy sometimes^^. Not yet, but I suppose I’ll need to be careful too. I’d hate for a random KO’d person dying by themselves ruining my ultimate pacifist run. I guess that could be attributed, lore-wise, to Jensen being careless and his victims just choking on their own vomit without Jensen carefully checking that they’re ok before he moves on. I just cloaked and moved fast at the office, no biggie. The police are pigs, they get what’s coming to them, and only reason Jensen should be careful about them is that if a policeman gets treated rough, it’ll be used as an excuse to exact vengeance on random augmented civilians. By this reasoning I didn’t kill police during my first pt. But eventually I’ll do a run where people will die a lot more (next pt, when I also see what the big deal w/ accepting Dvali’s offer is). Yeah, and now imagine some unfair NPC will die out of spite anyway, ungrateful for Jensen's efforts to save everyone's ass. I think the pacifist run shouldn't really be as strict as not a single soul dying, that's almost undoable. Ha, if he had to stop to check on everyone, that would make for the ultimate angel Jensen run. Especially when this can be prevented by just punching everyone, which is probably still the best takedown type (but those attacks from cover come close second) I dragged a lot of bodies around and nobody died. I read that it can happen and thought oh well, but then it wasn't a problem. Don't drop them from too high though. It's not that hard actually. Just don't shoot them with bullets or slice them lol. I'm glad though that if other people kill it's not on me. Like the police in the beginning when you want to visit Koller. I told them that imposters are blocking the way and they said they'll take care of it and I thought they're going to arrest them but no, they went there and started a firefight. I'm not sure if ants and roaches count as anything but pests anywhere, but I see your point. My most probable guess was that it could have something to do with Kafka (and that one who knows why famous story where the protagonist turns into a roach). They've already started bringing Čapek into it, so why not Kafka too. But since it deals with a man suddenly turning into an insect, we're back with your theory no matter what. Hehe, that's a good idea. Makes me think of the "ll Metamorfoso" poster from HR. Would fit right in the shop in this case. I found it on my little trip. I think I've even been there. I remember one with poisonous gas inside.
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Post by orchid on Feb 6, 2018 18:25:49 GMT
As far as fist impressions go, this is pretty interesting, though, since we've agreed that Reyes actually can't have had that many lovers in Andromeda and approaches the whole thing with caution. So, a pretty false first impression, then? (But there were avowals of no more secrets, mind you. who knows what we could expect from Reyes in the future ) [--] None of them may still be as handsome, flashy, powerful and good for business as the Pathfinder, but the feeling of a LI coming in times of complete despair must still be lessened by it. Unless of course Reyes absolutely requires those qualities, period. Maybe that ultimately depends on how mature they manage to be about it and how much of a slight that hookup actually is. (Buut, I'd still think it funny to have Ryder give Reyes shit for shagging some random Tartarus broad and threatening it will have consequences for the Collective/Nexus alliance) Maybe. But Ryder at that point can hardly have done that much math on it, and who knows what Reyes did back in MW. (He’s gonna lie again lmao. But hopefully not on the big stuff.) Well, Zia was beautiful but not much else. Lol at the bolded. But hey, why not play Ryder as the pettiest brat, were it allowed? Imagine the game giving that much width to RP Ryder. Wouldn't putting a plot armor on a character that's bound to become irrelevant and die in some dark corner of the cluster never to be heard of again, and making a tease-interrupt to show it off, be a rather odd decision? Especially if you consider they must've known there would be people who just want to kill him and be done with it at that point. That outlook can go both ways, aka him anyway losing or even giving away the Port - in order to set up something more lucrative at a secret haven found within the heart of the black hole, maybe? Ultimately what I’d like would be the costliest method, e.g. fully branched alternative Ports (like in Tyranny, a location can be altered significantly based on what you decide in the intro deciding your char’s history in the campaign). Point taken, but his not being a dependable type might well mean nothing at that specific point, then, unless it would also convince Ryder not to work with him further at all, not even on those quests (thus causing them to never make it to the end of the arc, yep) Who knows what else he was planning to steal in the storage before Ryder interrupted him But yeah, you're very likely right. Poor Mr. Sniper guy isn't special enough, though? . I wonder how the quest would proceed if Ryder didn't look for him ( hm, wouldn't it actually be interesting if there was such an option? ) At that specific point it would merely give a strong first impression, which would immediately arise to mind were she later on tempted by him otherwise. But I dunno, since I didn’t really get past that point with this particular Ryder. Who knows what she might have done, maybe grown a mind of her own and eloped with Liam, lol. Yeah, that’s what I’ve been saying. He totally snooped at their computers and planted a listening bug or two, and left a whoopee cushion on Kaetus’ chair. The Mt. Milgrom was just coup de grâce. Nah, Reyes is impulsive and adventurous, surely he’ll rather share the drink with his latest conquest than spend another evening with the ol’ uncle. They probs have their own fun pastimes anyway. I tried that with one of my Ryders. I thought that what if Ryder was upset at being neglected and left the party, waiting nearby at some other bar or eatery to see if Reyes would later on try to call him all panicked... But the game wouldn’t let me leave, of course. Ah, a new order for the threads in this section. No more scrolling down and we're at the top. Or not. I personally have probably said most the things I’ve had to say about Reyes, as fun as it has been (not that I’ve solemnly decided to abandon the thread or anything either lol). I did. It looked okay in a video I still have. When I looked again from the other side because I was in the game anyway I think some fingers glitched through it a bit though. It didn't look as nice. However, you've probably seen this, when he's waiting for Ryder's last answer it's actually stuck in the box and he's holding thin air. Since you’re so dogged about this, use that energy to browse the thread until you find that one screenshot (possibly by BloodOfShiagur) where the bottle is seriously just about to fall down. Hadn’t seen that angle before, but he’s at the same position at another timestamp, I guess his model gets pushed backwards which caused that to happen. As soon as the cutscene starts he's waiting under the stairs in a normal pose. That's pretty clever actually. Unfortunately I can’t really see what’s happening in that video, but I’ll take your word for it. Thnks for looking it up! Or how about we finally hear the alien languages. They have translators but if someone were annoying, in reality you could turn it off and ignore the person. That way lies the Kotor 1 & 2 approach of repetitious pig Latin phrases from aliens, which rarely were any pleasure to listen to. Unless the devs constructed several pseudo-authentic languages or a least grammars and believable sentence structures, which they wouldn’t.
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Post by BloodOfShiagur on Feb 10, 2018 11:45:06 GMT
Ah, a new order for the threads in this section. No more scrolling down and we're at the top. A new order begins, yeah. Why does it sound ominous? I don't know. I think they would at least try to find out. I can't imagine Tann not being curious about the real identity. Probably. It might still depend on how much of a power player the Charlatan becomes, but maybe just taking hold of the Port is enough to raise some questions. I'd be quite curious to see him try, I can't help but imagine it as a pretty funny endeavor Given how no one really has experience in those games, Reyes might well prove to be too well hidden. He could come back to the party and then say let's go somewhere else. If Ryder stayed that is. If you could just leave he might share it with Keema or keep it and maybe be a bit disappointed if they were on the flirty path. Or how about we finally hear the alien languages. They have translators but if someone were annoying, in reality you could turn it off and ignore the person. Hmm... leaving the party would be a good option. After all, Ryder might not care what Reyes is doing after being subjected to too much waiting Sharing this kind of treasure with Keema? Nah, I think it would sooner be Mr. Sniper guy, or he'd keep it to himself for when the coup succeeds. Keema somehow doesn't seem to fit the scheme. For the languages, what orchid said. They'd certainly end up being low priority and we'd be on the endless repetition path once again. I'm fine with translators and an odd word or structure here and there which can really be unique, like they did a little with the angara. But otherwise using a translator with a peculiar glitch on that one alien language as an excuse would be priceless. Maybe. But Ryder at that point can hardly have done that much math on it, and who knows what Reyes did back in MW. (He’s gonna lie again lmao. But hopefully not on the big stuff.) Well, Zia was beautiful but not much else. Lol at the bolded. But hey, why not play Ryder as the pettiest brat, were it allowed? Imagine the game giving that much width to RP Ryder. Heehee, sure, The mysterious history of MW Reyes. Too bad we'll never know. I'm not sure if he could successfully change his outlook on hooking up so dramatically in six months or so, but maybe this cautious approach really is just the result of his need to stay in the shadows. Well, definitely. I still think "big stuff" is too vague to make it impossible to play loose with it (Now I'm kind of imagining Reyes sitting on some all-galactic threat, claiming he didn't find it important when it's discovered he knew all along ) She's probably the only woman (human, who knows about the rest, of course) in the game you can immediately say to be pretty. Which one of Ryders's pre-Reyes LIs has at least that? Yeah, I completely agree, it would be fun. What a flaw to add to Ryder and a way to move major events. And then there would be all those silences and mean stares when someone asks why the Charlatan's gone dark so sudden... That outlook can go both ways, aka him anyway losing or even giving away the Port - in order to set up something more lucrative at a secret haven found within the heart of the black hole, maybe? Ultimately what I’d like would be the costliest method, e.g. fully branched alternative Ports (like in Tyranny, a location can be altered significantly based on what you decide in the intro deciding your char’s history in the campaign). True. The giving away option is interesting, and Reyes just might pull his agents from there in order to expand, while some level of stability is reached. But then again keeping hold over a prosperous port must be pretty lucrative with the kind of business the Collective does. (Also, the Black hole lair will definitely need a bar) Losing it via a coup or something might cost him too much and make him useless in the following games, unless there was an intriguing quest tree to help Reyes get the operation up and running. Alternative Ports would be the best, though, no doubt that. At that specific point it would merely give a strong first impression, which would immediately arise to mind were she later on tempted by him otherwise. But I dunno, since I didn’t really get past that point with this particular Ryder. Who knows what she might have done, maybe grown a mind of her own and eloped with Liam, lol. Yeah, that’s what I’ve been saying. He totally snooped at their computers and planted a listening bug or two, and left a whoopee cushion on Kaetus’ chair. The Mt. Milgrom was just coup de grâce. Nah, Reyes is impulsive and adventurous, surely he’ll rather share the drink with his latest conquest than spend another evening with the ol’ uncle. They probs have their own fun pastimes anyway. I tried that with one of my Ryders. I thought that what if Ryder was upset at being neglected and left the party, waiting nearby at some other bar or eatery to see if Reyes would later on try to call him all panicked... But the game wouldn’t let me leave, of course. Why did an insanely bad elopement plan that ends in some weird shit and nearly getting eaten by a cthulhu immediately spring to my mind? Lol, poor Kaetus, sitting on the only whoopee cushion in Andromeda. Too bad the game only lets you go look for him when he's well into the process, it might be interesting if Ryder could follow him all the way (and then giving him a scare, lol), it's not like SAM didn't track him to that storage in the beginning. Makes sense. On the other hand his pastime with favorite uncle may involve planning a local takeover and for that kind of fun the bottle would be just the thing. Why would Reyes be panicked? He probably didn't expect Ryder to go look for him in the first place, even if the chance of that was pretty big. Unless this was a part of his plan somehow. I would be worried if there was an armory in my block. I'm not saying they shouldn't have the chance but there's alyways the possibility of such things being a one-time thing, so I don't skip them. I would have added a third option for the TV, "sit down" and made the shower repeatable because it's already in the game anyway, but I'm not a programmer. Would you know if there was an armory in your block, though? But that guy in Jensen's building is more like hypostim dealer than a true armory, I had him cnfused with the other guy in the second building. Exactly, the resources are there, and if the scenes are skippable, there's no good reason not to allow reusing them. Can't poor Jensen have a shower and a shot of whiskey whenever he feels like it? Not to mention the Tv. If you don't watch the entire program on one go you never get it with a cutscene. That one's very easy to skip, because you simply don't expect it. Bah. A sit down and have coffee without Eliza prattling option, now I'd like that. But I must admit it kind of makes more sense with the TV on. Oh, I stole the bottles and then sold them, I made good money. I didn't read the descriptions for most of them though. So I went back to look what I actually carried. I had lots ob Absinthe and Brown Ale (you can even read the ingredients on the bottle for that one.) I found the Indian beer, hooray. And while I was at it, I let him drink as much as possible. He can only drink a certain amount at once and then he was drunk for quite a while xD. There's this old police detective in a larger side quest, you've probably met him by now. Maybe he can be the one.
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Why would there be incorrect German on them? (Plaststoffe is what they wanted to say, although Kunststoff or Plastik would be better.) For the tourists? It's even on some glass containers. So I was curious and looked for the real ones
and found they made them pretty similar looking in the game. Apart from some of the labelling. And I like papír because we have Papier. Wow, Czech can be easy sometimes^^.
Adam Jensen - Interpol justice-doing, on to the Illuminati conspirators that want to take over the world, saving kittens from trees, doing a bit of weapon and booze trade on the side. Sounds legit. (I've only recently discovered how much you can gain from selling Neuropozyne. I never did, though.) I read most of the desciption during the final mission and I discovered that the Svobody beer is most likely really Freedom beer, which is cute. The brown beer sounds pretty suspicious, though I never notice the ingredients I mostly drank the Pilsner beer, occasionally svobody beer, and since it's Jensen lots of whiskey too. I love what the maximum amount of drinks does with his vision. Haa, yesss, he could definitely be the one, unless he's to busy wrapping up his last case to show Jensen around. Now that would make a hell of a post-credit scene Huh, that's interesting. I never noticed the dumpsters had German text. Maybe they just extrapolated that from some notes that appear in more languages, unaware that it doesn't involve thrash bins. But in the end I think that's just your standard DX linguistic situation. Google translate notes, German dumpsters, the Dvali theater is entirely in Slovak, by the way Yay (double yay for learning a new German word) See? Czech is definitely easy. I dragged a lot of bodies around and nobody died. I read that it can happen and thought oh well, but then it wasn't a problem. Don't drop them from too high though. It's not that hard actually. Just don't shoot them with bullets or slice them lol. I'm glad though that if other people kill it's not on me. Like the police in the beginning when you want to visit Koller. I told them that imposters are blocking the way and they said they'll take care of it and I thought they're going to arrest them but no, they went there and started a firefight. I've accidentally electrocuted a thug but then I reloaded because it was awkward. I forgot I didn't drag him to the next room. Did you aim to get the no-kill achievement, btw? Does it involve the robots you hack, too? Yeah, that was surprisingly radical. But imagine it was a Russian trying to unconvincingly pretend a) that he was Czech he belonged to the organization that's ruled by other unconnected Russians. That must've pissed people off, and thus invoke some mafia practices on poor Drahomír and crew. And thus, another point for my conspiration theory. Hehe, that's a good idea. Makes me think of the "ll Metamorfoso" poster from HR. Would fit right in the shop in this case. I found it on my little trip. I think I've even been there. I remember one with poisonous gas inside. I always looked at that one too (but now I'm not sure if it was a billboard, a poster, or if it was written above a building. Or was it all of these?) With how positive and shiny it was it would be fitting if the roach really was the MD counterpart of this. But we may be digging too much into it. Yep, there was gas. It was also the location where K and crew wanted to go once I busted them out of the police station. Luckily I'd un-gassed it way before that.
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Post by starlord on Mar 10, 2018 7:34:12 GMT
BloodOfShiagurUgh, I deserve the cone of shame I got major writers block, but I found some inspiration to finish in the unlikest of places, so I'm back in the saddle! (took me bloody long enough!) Recently, in avoidance of a paper I have to write, I got back into playing Horizon: Zero Dawn (my back log is borderline obnoxious) and I found a dude in game that reminds me of Reyes kinda in appearance??? He doesn't look like Reyes 100%, but the position of power, awkward flirtation, and the fact that I'm crushing super hard- means that he's my H:ZD Reyes. (Even though Zarl is freaking gorgeous too) However, they smashed my beans because no one is a romance option!!! I appreciate the reasoning behind it- Aloy is a strong, independent woman on a mission who needs to focus 110%, but goddamn it, don't give me an dialogue wheel with no way for me to swoon ;-; I still haven't forgiven New Vegas for not letting me live my baddie mummy Mormon fantasy with Joshua Graham. .... Anyways.. not giving specific dates because my ass cannot be trusted to be accurate, but my awkward flailing over H:ZD has giving me back my spark, so expect a link... If this thread isn't completely a corpse.
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