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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 1, 2016 21:01:55 GMT
Yeah, they'd already be falling into the old and tired cliches before we even get to Andromeda. I'd rather the source be Reaper or Collector in origin, since they are at least established so isn't a case of a mysterious alien artifact. I was sorta hoping for wormholes myself. I'd rather just forget Mass Effect and the Reapers ever happened, just make that trilogy noncanon as far as Andromeda goes. Sadly, I'm unlikely to get my wish on either matter. I doubt they'd use wormholes. The game is a Mass Effect game so we have to get there using the Mass Effect. If we used wormholes, the whole point of it being a Mass Effect game is gone since weare no longer using the science the franchise is named after.
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Post by Steelcan on Nov 1, 2016 21:02:20 GMT
so how did the astronauts leave the moon with the eagle module still on its surface?
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Nov 1, 2016 21:02:31 GMT
Forget even travelling to Andromeda, How did that thing (the Ark) get build so quickly? We see it dwarfing A Dreadnought which are around 1km in lenght, by comparison a modern day supercarrier is no larger than 340 meters and they take almost nine years to build. Liara even mentions that the Shadow Broker's ship took "decades" to built. The resource and manpower drain that this thing is probably as much as would be needed for a fleet dreadnoughts that could take on the Reapers with ease. This (except for the last part -- there's no taking on the Reapers with anything any one planet, not to mention an entire quadrant, can build). When and who knew are dwarfed by this. Unless they are going to retcon that work started prior to 2183 CE, there's only at most 3 years between ME1 and the beginning of ME3. No way all that can be built in that amount of time.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 1, 2016 21:04:28 GMT
Forget even travelling to Andromeda, How did that thing (the Ark) get build so quickly? We see it dwarfing A Dreadnought which are around 1km in lenght, by comparison a modern day supercarrier is no larger than 340 meters and they take almost nine years to build. Liara even mentions that the Shadow Broker's ship took "decades" to built. The resource and manpower drain that this thing is probably as much as would be needed for a fleet dreadnoughts that could take on the Reapers with ease. This (except for the last part -- there's no taking on the Reapers with anything any one planet, not to mention an entire quadrant, can build). When and who knew are dwarfed by this. Unless they are going to retcon that work started prior to 2183 CE, there's only at most 3 years between ME1 and the beginning of ME3. No way all that can be built in that amount of time. Well, we built the Crucible in only a few months, and that is bigger than Hyperion. Then again with the Crucible we had "everyone who can hold a hammer" working on it.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Nov 1, 2016 21:04:52 GMT
so how did the astronauts leave the moon with the eagle module still on its surface? Oh crap! Nice catch, I totally missed that! Ha, what a blooper!
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Post by hivemind on Nov 1, 2016 21:05:02 GMT
By the way, i think it's MomRyder standong there alomgside with DadRyder. Otherwise why put one sibling and not both while at this point of the story it's obviously they a together.
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Post by Iakus on Nov 1, 2016 21:05:28 GMT
I was sorta hoping for wormholes myself. I'd rather just forget Mass Effect and the Reapers ever happened, just make that trilogy noncanon as far as Andromeda goes. Sadly, I'm unlikely to get my wish on either matter. I doubt they'd use wormholes. The game is a Mass Effect game so we have to get there using the Mass Effect. If we used wormholes, the whole point of it being a Mass Effect game is gone since weare no longer using the science the franchise is named after. I dunno. The way the relays and ftl work ("massless corridors") sounds like something close to wormholes.
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Post by Arcian on Nov 1, 2016 21:05:56 GMT
Because at the FTL speed of ME2-ME3 era ships, it will take 570 years to reach Andromeda. They are rounding it up to 600 because nice round numbers are nice. Well, the slagged ruins of what was formerly a ship would take that long to reach Andromeda. Assuming it didn't drop out of ftl once the electronics fried and the crew got cooked Of course, I'm just saying if it was possible to make the journey with ME2-ME3 era tech, it would take 570 years. so how did the astronauts leave the moon with the eagle module still on its surface? By invoking the same powers of space magic ME:A is apparently running on.
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Post by Mistic on Nov 1, 2016 21:11:44 GMT
so how did the astronauts leave the moon with the eagle module still on its surface? Isn't it a replica? Some kind of monument to the first people who reached the moon?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 1, 2016 21:12:58 GMT
so how did the astronauts leave the moon with the eagle module still on its surface? Isn't it a replica? Some kind of monument to the first people who reached the moon?
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Post by jackievakarian on Nov 1, 2016 21:14:47 GMT
It doesn't have to be well before the Reapers arrive. It could be just as the Reapers arrive or right before. Yes, the ship would take massive resources and manpower and technology to build. We don't know exactly when it is built or how long, but I would wager it is during the events of Mass Effect 3, as a last call, absolute last resort, during "Total War", when resources, equipment and manpower could be mobilized and used quickly and efficiently. Most people would assume the ship being built was part of the war effort and wouldn't question it very much. Building the ship compared with the resources being used to fight the Reapers would be relatively small, allowing humans to fight off the Reapers and still send out the ship to prevent extinction. The ship does seem to be being built in a non-war situation. But maybe its just part of the promo and not when it is actually built. Can't be. Earth gets invaded at the start of ME3, so all this area should be literally swarming with Reapers. It's impossible to secretely build something of this magnitude in the middle of a war zone. It's anywhere after humanity becomes part of the galactic community (daddy monologue) and before Earth gets hit that this trailer takes place. I never mentioned that it was secret. As long as humanity throws anyone at the ship who can use a hammer, like the Council did with the Crucible, that's the best explanation. It could still just be right before the Reapers arrive. I remember in an earlier trailer there looked like what would be flying transport cars being piloted to the ship. Even then, I'm not even sure this trailer is "canon" or fits in the story, and is just promotional.
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Post by Beerfish on Nov 1, 2016 21:17:49 GMT
so how did the astronauts leave the moon with the eagle module still on its surface? Isn't it a replica? Some kind of monument to the first people who reached the moon? Can't be, dumbasses have be able to use their idiotic cliche 'space magic' rather than using Occums Razor.
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Post by Steelcan on Nov 1, 2016 21:20:36 GMT
is it confirmed to be a monument at any point? Or is this just guessing to try and cover up BioWare's horrendous attention to detail?
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Post by FireAndBlood on Nov 1, 2016 21:21:53 GMT
so how did the astronauts leave the moon with the eagle module still on its surface? ILLUMINATI!!!
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Post by Wulfram on Nov 1, 2016 21:26:27 GMT
Space is a pretty forgiving place to build big stuff. I wouldn't assume that Dreadnoughts represent any kind of upper limit - warships need to be fast, but a civillian ship has no such limitation. Even on Earth, there are a whole bunch of civilian ships that are bigger than any warship.
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Post by Pearl on Nov 1, 2016 21:28:57 GMT
Neat.
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Post by maxon on Nov 1, 2016 21:30:07 GMT
Not sure if anyone noticed but the tumbnail image is not from the trailer. The surface of the planet is different, the tone is much darker and in the reflection is a galaxy instead of Earth. It appears that this is just one part of the bigger trailer that we will see on N7 day Not only that but that looks very like the Andromeda galaxy itself - which means it would have to be taken on the trip because once there you wouldn't be able to see all of it just as we can't see the Milky Way. so how did the astronauts leave the moon with the eagle module still on its surface? Isn't that the part that got left behind? There was a descent part and an ascent part. Edit: there's a picture on the wiki. Also there's a video on UTube of the blast off of Apollo 17 here:
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Post by Sartoz on Nov 1, 2016 21:31:59 GMT
,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ I see the vid as more marketing promo... nothing more, nothing new.
The N7 Day video is when we actually get to "taste" the game.
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Post by Heimdall on Nov 1, 2016 21:33:35 GMT
Forget even travelling to Andromeda, How did that thing (the Ark) get build so quickly? We see it dwarfing A Dreadnought which are around 1km in lenght, by comparison a modern day supercarrier is no larger than 340 meters and they take almost nine years to build. Liara even mentions that the Shadow Broker's ship took "decades" to built. The resource and manpower drain that this thing is probably as much as would be needed for a fleet dreadnoughts that could take on the Reapers with ease. Building the Arks is impossible because of logistics and technological and economical reasons. Unless we have some sort of outside help. One guess is that it's going to be like Contact. We will get some mysterious blueprints and follow it so we can explore a new galaxy. This whole focus on exploration (we had three trailers that pretty much says the same thing "we are explores bla bla bla) makes me thing those ships were not built to escape the Reapers. Well, I still think they are for escaping the Reapers. Remember the old ARKCON patch? Speculated to be short for "Ark Contingency"? I think somewhere along the line the devs changed it to Andromeda Initiative and targeted exploration as their marketing tag line in order to distance the game from negative associations with the Reapers and the ending backlash. It might be that escaping the Reapers is a secret objective for what is advertised to the volunteers as an exploration mission, which we might only learn about in some optional codex entry or something.
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Post by shechinah on Nov 1, 2016 21:35:45 GMT
By the way, i think it's MomRyder standong there alomgside with DadRyder. Otherwise why put one sibling and not both while at this point of the story it's obviously they a together.The sibling and Ryder? I don't believe it has been. As far as I know, what we've had confirmed is that the sibling is out there but I don't recall any confirmation that they're together with Ryder. Some theorized the sibling was one of the characters present in the 4K trailer but again, nothing confirmed as far as I know.
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Post by fade9wayz on Nov 1, 2016 21:37:16 GMT
I never mentioned that it was secret. As long as humanity throws anyone at the ship who can use a hammer, like the Council did with the Crucible, that's the best explanation. It could still just be right before the Reapers arrive. I remember in an earlier trailer there looked like what would be flying transport cars being piloted to the ship. Even then, I'm not even sure this trailer is "canon" or fits in the story, and is just promotional. By secret I meant hidden from the Reapers. It's just impossible for it to be built around the moon during ME3, if we consider the trailer canon. If it's not, then trying to date when the Arks are built is just baseless speculation, aka, what we've all done until now. If it's canon, and I don't see why BW would try blurring things like this at this point, then we can try and speculate what daddyRyder means by 'being part of the galactic community'. It would give us a narrower window. Is it after the First Contact war? Is it when humanity gets an embassy on the Citadel? Is it when Humanity gets a Council seat? I lean towards Council seat, even if it does leave very little time to build these massive Arks. Then again, it is possible they started building the Hyperion around the Moon, then finished and launched it somewhere else, along with the other ARKS, during some of the ME3 events.
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Post by sosolaris on Nov 1, 2016 21:42:29 GMT
Join the Andromeda Initiative today. Orientation begins November 7: bit.ly/2eQTuuCLooks awesome. Can't wait for N7 day.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Nov 1, 2016 21:42:38 GMT
Jesus Christ, that's a long ass post I won't be bothered to quote.
My point is that those folks add nothing to the topic, and their salt were watered down years ago, no point in discussing that Again. Period.
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Post by Silvery on Nov 1, 2016 21:42:39 GMT
Cool trailer and I signed up right away.
"Registered recruits will be among the first contacted to receive critical mission information, special training opportunities, and will also be eligible for reward upon program completion. Orientation begins Nov. 7."
I wonder what you get upon completion, a in-game item hopefully. Also wonder how the orientation will go with N7 day and what it will actually be?
I do wonder is the ARK above the Moon just there for show in the trailer or if that is supposed to be something more to when/where a ARK was built? If it is the latter then it would suggest to be they would have to have been built after ME3.
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