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Post by Kaidan Fan on Feb 1, 2017 21:46:59 GMT
Cerberus was always about promoting humans. It would only be natural if they found out about this project to try and insert spies and such. That doesn't bother me in the least. So long as it doesn't become some huge story in the new games. As for Cora though, if is she TIMs daughter, she may have just wanted to strike out on her own and get away from him and Cerberus. Which is also fine with me. Edit: I just watched that MiniusGC video. It was real good!
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Post by longshadow on Feb 1, 2017 21:47:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 21:50:49 GMT
Didn't they say at some point that Cerberus is not following us to Andromeda? Or did I make that up to make myself feel better? Cerberus isn’t just an organisation or the people behind it. Cerberus is an idea; that idea is not so easily destroyed.
Devs said Mass Effect Andromeda is a clean slate so I think Bioware probably did destroy Cerberus (yes the idea too ) Anyways Bioware has had enough characters with daddy issues. Hope Cora is her own person.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 1, 2017 21:52:38 GMT
Cerberus isn’t just an organisation or the people behind it. Cerberus is an idea; that idea is not so easily destroyed. That's right LET'S GO CERBERUS LET'S GO clap your hands LET'S GO CERBERUS LET'S GO clap your hands AGAIN. SOUND OFF EVERYONE LET'S GO CERBERUS LET'S GO clap your hands EXCELLENT
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 1, 2017 21:57:45 GMT
Cerberus was always about promoting humans. It would only be natural if they found out about this project to try and insert spies and such. That doesn't bother me in the least. So long as it doesn't become some huge story in the new games. As for Cora though, if is she TIMs daughter, she may have just wanted to strike out on her own and get away from him and Cerberus. Which is also fine with me. Yeah that's kindof what I'm hoping that Cora joined the AI to get away from her father in the same way that Miranda joined Cerberus to get away from hers
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Post by colfoley on Feb 1, 2017 21:58:21 GMT
Cerberus isn’t just an organisation or the people behind it. Cerberus is an idea; that idea is not so easily destroyed.
Devs said Mass Effect Andromeda is a clean slate so I think Bioware probably did destroy Cerberus (yes the idea too ) Anyways Bioware has had enough characters with daddy issues. Hope Cora is her own person. Games should be ripe for conflict, and story telling, and the one thing BioWare seems to be doing well with Andromeda is having several different and competing conflicts going on within the game. The 'Cerberus idea' could easily just be another conflict that will need to be resolved in the game's narrative. IE you have some members of the expedition which will want to put humanity (or at the very least the Milk Way natives) out on top and have them dominate the other species,and you will have others who won't. Lets just hope BioWare just does not resolve everything one quest at a time but you have multiple quests, side quest and main quest, that deal with each one of these major conflict points.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 1, 2017 22:02:50 GMT
The new IP sound disappointing. I was really looking forward to a new RPG series from Bioware. Same. Expecially the heavily implied multiplayer nature of the game. I hate multiplayer. I play videgame to NOT have to do with real people. I want to be blissfully asocial while I play. I feel I've mentioned it as many times as you'll hear the words "Witcher 3" by now but Resident Evil 6 was in my opinion a game where I totally enjoyed my usual habits of video games whilist playing the entire thing with a stranger. I specifically want no voice-chat and I turn off player names in the menus so I get the illusion that the other player is a real character in the world that is assisting me, but I find some kind of joy in knowing that there's a human being on the other end of the line, and being a campaign-co-op game he can't really get in my way unless he's a bad player. Fortunately I found one stranger and played the entire thing with him and we posted reactions over PSN messages afterwards and then talking about about the game, much like we'd do here on a board. I really fucking liked that experience. It reminded me of when I was a kid and I still had friends that wanted to look at me playing a single player game or vice versa instead of the competitive MP games that I have never found enjoyment in. I'm thinking that the RE6-type game is the overall approach BioWare is going for but maybe in a semi-MMO setting. I actually liked SWTOR for the way it integrated the social aspect and it worked fine whenever I played and only focused on questing and story as well as one flashpoint or two. It feels cool to enter another player's ship and travel to a distant freighter to oversee his character's story missions before you return to whatever you were doing, and it's never overly "social" where you have to chat or be bros and shit. I find myself wanting to "introvert" when I play video games too and I felt both RE6 and SWTOR let me do that while still technically playing with other people. That's all I need. However, I hope the new IP doesn't feel too dumbed down. I expect more than a RE6-type rollercoaster experience from BioWare. I've come to expect branching paths and freedom of choice to some degree -- they'd better not drop that now that it isn't an "RPG" anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 22:15:36 GMT
Devs said Mass Effect Andromeda is a clean slate so I think Bioware probably did destroy Cerberus (yes the idea too ) Anyways Bioware has had enough characters with daddy issues. Hope Cora is her own person. Games should be ripe for conflict, and story telling, and the one thing BioWare seems to be doing well with Andromeda is having several different and competing conflicts going on within the game. The 'Cerberus idea' could easily just be another conflict that will need to be resolved in the game's narrative. IE you have some members of the expedition which will want to put humanity (or at the very least the Milk Way natives) out on top and have them dominate the other species,and you will have others who won't. Lets just hope BioWare just does not resolve everything one quest at a time but you have multiple quests, side quest and main quest, that deal with each one of these major conflict points. Fair enough, but if they introduce that sort of conflict in the game to add more conflict then I just hope it's not Cerberus. They've had their fun. Let some other organization/group/individual come in and make this game feel like a new game separate from the trilogy like the devs have been constantly saying it is rather than just shoving Cerberus into the plot. Right now I think humanity overall is more concerned with finding places to live, not trying to dominate the galaxy. There will be some humans who might act biased towards other species, but it doesn't have to be an organized conflict to be present in the game (if this human supremacy idea is present).
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Post by colfoley on Feb 1, 2017 22:18:45 GMT
Games should be ripe for conflict, and story telling, and the one thing BioWare seems to be doing well with Andromeda is having several different and competing conflicts going on within the game. The 'Cerberus idea' could easily just be another conflict that will need to be resolved in the game's narrative. IE you have some members of the expedition which will want to put humanity (or at the very least the Milk Way natives) out on top and have them dominate the other species,and you will have others who won't. Lets just hope BioWare just does not resolve everything one quest at a time but you have multiple quests, side quest and main quest, that deal with each one of these major conflict points. Fair enough, but if they introduce that sort of conflict in the game to add more conflict then I just hope it's not Cerberus. They've had their fun. Let some other organization/group/individual come in and make this game feel like a new game separate from the trilogy like the devs have been constantly saying it is rather than just shoving Cerberus into the plot. Right now I think humanity overall is more concerned with finding places to live, not trying to dominate the galaxy. There will be some humans who might act biased towards other species, but it doesn't have to be an organized conflict to be present in the game (if this human supremacy idea is present). Oh its not going to be called Cerberus. But it is going to be the same mindset exhbited by the Illusive Man within the trilogy. And sure the Milky Way peoples are going to be at a disadvantage when it comes to being able to put their people on top (maybe another reason to not have a bunch of warships in your expedition...just a thought), but there will be people who might want to. And it seems like Alec might be one of them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 22:22:43 GMT
Fair enough, but if they introduce that sort of conflict in the game to add more conflict then I just hope it's not Cerberus. They've had their fun. Let some other organization/group/individual come in and make this game feel like a new game separate from the trilogy like the devs have been constantly saying it is rather than just shoving Cerberus into the plot. Right now I think humanity overall is more concerned with finding places to live, not trying to dominate the galaxy. There will be some humans who might act biased towards other species, but it doesn't have to be an organized conflict to be present in the game (if this human supremacy idea is present). Oh its not going to be called Cerberus. But it is going to be the same mindset exhbited by the Illusive Man within the trilogy. And sure the Milky Way peoples are going to be at a disadvantage when it comes to being able to put their people on top (maybe another reason to not have a bunch of warships in your expedition...just a thought), but there will be people who might want to. And it seems like Alec might be one of them. We'll see in 49 days.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 1, 2017 22:39:39 GMT
Oh its not going to be called Cerberus. But it is going to be the same mindset exhbited by the Illusive Man within the trilogy. And sure the Milky Way peoples are going to be at a disadvantage when it comes to being able to put their people on top (maybe another reason to not have a bunch of warships in your expedition...just a thought), but there will be people who might want to. And it seems like Alec might be one of them. We'll see in 49 days. That we will
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 22:43:16 GMT
Jacob Bergen @jacob_bergen Frazier Commander, last month the odds were "good" for MP beta news. This unit requires calculated odds for the current month. Ian S. Frazier @tibermoonSince I was clearly wrong last month, I shall refrain from providing further calculations for this unit. Sorry!
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Post by colfoley on Feb 1, 2017 22:47:12 GMT
You know I am kind of glad they are waiting for the MP, given all their tweets they have been making about how the rest of the game is doing, and given that we still do not know much about the MP, it indicates its the after thought it should be and not a main attraction.
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Post by Muddy Boots on Feb 1, 2017 22:47:38 GMT
Decent video and some good thoughtful points made. I really, really, really, really, really (you get the idea) hope that Cerberus is not present at all in any upcoming or future Mass Effect titles. They were already an unabashedly redundant writer's pet that hogged way too much of the narrative spotlight in the previous trilogy (and practically had a monopoly on all secondary media) and their continued presence in Andromeda would just fly in the face of BioWare's decree that they wanted to move to a new galaxy in order to avoid the "old baggage" from the previous games; Cerberus is a pretty big musty old bag from where I'm standing. I'm pretty sure they did say we won't be seeing much, if any Cerberus-that they aren't coming to Andromeda. I think it's just speculation on Minius's part. And others. There's probably some other shady organization, maybe even the AI is a shady organization itself. We'll know in game. I don't mind if they're given some lip service. Though I am in the minority and wouldn't care if Cerberus plays a part in Andromeda, though it should be a smaller one than what we saw before.
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Post by Muddy Boots on Feb 1, 2017 22:49:16 GMT
49 days is foreveeeerrrr! I want it now. I'm not a patient person.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 22:50:53 GMT
49 days is foreveeeerrrr! I want it now. I'm not a patient person. If it makes you feel better don't include today and then it will be 48 days
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 22:51:54 GMT
Don't get salty! You know what happens.
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Post by KR96 on Feb 1, 2017 22:53:16 GMT
I personally think the whole reasons for going to Andromeda is debated over too often.
It's a reset of the franchise, plain and simple. Any and all reasons given for going to Andromeda, save maybe the idea of fleeing Reapers, is silly in comparison to the costs and uncertainties faced in that galaxy (especially considering humanity's incredibly brief period in this space community).
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Don't get salty! You know what happens. Indeed we don't want any bad eggs do we?
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Post by Muddy Boots on Feb 1, 2017 23:05:58 GMT
49 days is foreveeeerrrr! I want it now. I'm not a patient person. If it makes you feel better don't include today and then it will be 48 days I was that kid who would get up at some unholy hour, like 3 am on Christmas morning because I couldn't stand the wait. Nevermind that my parents had been up until 2 assembling things. I couldn't stand the wait. 48 days is only a tiny bit less of a wait than 49.
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Michael Gamble @gamblemike Actual bug from today: Shooting cover in the room with <Major NPC> loads player to multiplayer menu Julien Adriano @bwjulien @gamblemike Best part in all this is how a Dev from BF1 spotted this tweet and sent us a fix, as the same bug was found during their dev. Fabrice Condominas @faburisu
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Michael Gamble @gamblemike Actual bug from today: Shooting cover in the room with <Major NPC> loads player to multiplayer menu Julien Adriano @bwjulien @gamblemike Best part in all this is how a Dev from BF1 spotted this tweet and sent us a fix, as the same bug was found during their dev. Fabrice Condominas @faburisu
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 23:24:26 GMT
Don't get salty! You know what happens. How dare you. I always have some fries with my salt.
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