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Post by Beerfish on Dec 5, 2016 17:00:12 GMT
I'm gonna upgrade the docking section with turian life support systems. Cause "you humans are all racist!" I am going to build a special air lock just for turians.......so I can quickly shoot them out if required.
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Post by themikefest on Dec 5, 2016 17:13:27 GMT
I am going to build a special air lock just for turians.......so I can quickly shoot them out if required. Don't forget the airlock for the asari as well. Don't want them feeling left out.
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Post by Beerfish on Dec 5, 2016 17:16:09 GMT
I am going to build a special air lock just for turians.......so I can quickly shoot them out if required. Don't forget the airlock for the asari as well. Don't want them feeling left out. Wood chipper.
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Post by revanshep78 on Dec 5, 2016 20:18:07 GMT
An idea just occurred to me: what if the Nexus is "upgraded" by your resources in MP? It's reasonable to think that everything you need in the SP can be done by the single "arms" of the Nexus. But by being able to add resources you win from MP to create a "bigger" Nexus. It'd be a way to not have the MP affect the main storyline of the SP experience but still see gains in the SP mode by playing MP. Just a thought!
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Post by AnDromedary on Dec 5, 2016 20:42:50 GMT
An idea just occurred to me: what if the Nexus is "upgraded" by your resources in MP? It's reasonable to think that everything you need in the SP can be done by the single "arms" of the Nexus. But by being able to add resources you win from MP to create a "bigger" Nexus. It'd be a way to not have the MP affect the main storyline of the SP experience but still see gains in the SP mode by playing MP. Just a thought! I really really hope this is not the case. That sounds like a huge effect of MP on SP, even if you don't need the upgrades, just visually that would be a huge difference (and the visuals do matter as well). Ideally, MP shouldn't affect SP at all IMO. really don't know why BW insists that this is a good idea. But if they have to have an effect there, I really hope it'll only be some BS little stat upgrades somewhere in some obscure menu, that I can ignore and not see if I don't want to. #triggered
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Post by Element Zero on Dec 5, 2016 22:29:39 GMT
An idea just occurred to me: what if the Nexus is "upgraded" by your resources in MP? It's reasonable to think that everything you need in the SP can be done by the single "arms" of the Nexus. But by being able to add resources you win from MP to create a "bigger" Nexus. It'd be a way to not have the MP affect the main storyline of the SP experience but still see gains in the SP mode by playing MP. Just a thought! An idea just occurred to me: what if the Nexus is "upgraded" by your resources in MP? It's reasonable to think that everything you need in the SP can be done by the single "arms" of the Nexus. But by being able to add resources you win from MP to create a "bigger" Nexus. It'd be a way to not have the MP affect the main storyline of the SP experience but still see gains in the SP mode by playing MP. Just a thought! I really really hope this is not the case. That sounds like a huge effect of MP on SP, even if you don't need the upgrades, just visually that would be a huge difference (and the visuals do matter as well). Ideally, MP shouldn't affect SP at all IMO. really don't know why BW insists that this is a good idea. But if they have to have an effect there, I really hope it'll only be some BS little stat upgrades somewhere in some obscure menu, that I can ignore and not see if I don't want to. #triggered I've mentioned before that I believe the AVPs are the secondary XP-like resource that the devs have mentioned. If so, it can be earned in both SP and MP modes of the game. Making MP an AVP fast-track would be fine, as long as the SP-only crowd had no issues earning sufficient quantities. I think it will be fine.
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Post by AnDromedary on Dec 5, 2016 22:39:00 GMT
I've mentioned before that I believe the AVPs are the secondary XP-like resource that the devs have mentioned. If so, it can be earned in both SP and MP modes of the game. Making MP an AVP fast-track would be fine, as long as the SP-only crowd had no issues earning sufficient quantities. I think it will be fine. If you could earn everything in SP (and just need a little longer to do it than in MP), I would indeed be fine with that.
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Post by scifiguy53425 on Dec 7, 2016 8:27:12 GMT
100% they're going to force us to build the nexus ourselves in a similar way to the war assets in ME3. Or at the very least upgrade the nexus
I only think that because of the Andromeda update where they said the nexus will only be partially built before they get to Andromeda.
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Post by ssanyesz on Dec 7, 2016 10:58:39 GMT
I think DAI's Requisition / gathering / Skyhold upgrade system had so much potentional, sadly it was not fully/propery used.
I don't know how it will be in MEA, but i hope the Nexus will have more upgrade options like Mage/Templar tower and infirmary/training grounds, much-much more. The idea was great, just too little and few options was added to the game.
Don't know if we as pathfinder can establish colonies, but how great it would be if we could and also upgrade them, like searching lots of resources turn them in the Nexus, and then chosing upgrade for colonies, like turrent defenses, or medical upgrades, or securty personal armors and weapons upgrades, or more defensive droids/mechs around/inside the colonies, or provide shield around colonies, or weather protection system, or more housing, or other buildings... And not just in text, but we could see it too.
The potential are endless, so were in DAI, sadly it was unrealized there, hope they vastly imporve on it MEA so there would be a point collecting minerals and other resources.
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Post by Ahriman on Dec 7, 2016 14:00:18 GMT
I don't know how it will be in MEA, but i hope the Nexus will have more upgrade options like Mage/Templar tower and infirmary/training grounds, much-much more. The idea was great, just too little and few options was added to the game. I don't think it will be for us decide, we are a mere Pathfinder, not a Nexus Queen. Otherwise it will look quite meta. For customizable upgrades we have Nomad and perhaps some settlements.
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Post by Iakus on Dec 7, 2016 17:50:43 GMT
An idea just occurred to me: what if the Nexus is "upgraded" by your resources in MP? It's reasonable to think that everything you need in the SP can be done by the single "arms" of the Nexus. But by being able to add resources you win from MP to create a "bigger" Nexus. It'd be a way to not have the MP affect the main storyline of the SP experience but still see gains in the SP mode by playing MP. Just a thought! I really really hope this is not the case. That sounds like a huge effect of MP on SP, even if you don't need the upgrades, just visually that would be a huge difference (and the visuals do matter as well). Ideally, MP shouldn't affect SP at all IMO. really don't know why BW insists that this is a good idea. But if they have to have an effect there, I really hope it'll only be some BS little stat upgrades somewhere in some obscure menu, that I can ignore and not see if I don't want to. #triggered There shouldn't be a single thing in SP, not even a purely decorative trophy, that isn't available through purely SP play.
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Post by javeart on Dec 7, 2016 18:08:08 GMT
I really really hope this is not the case. That sounds like a huge effect of MP on SP, even if you don't need the upgrades, just visually that would be a huge difference (and the visuals do matter as well). Ideally, MP shouldn't affect SP at all IMO. really don't know why BW insists that this is a good idea. But if they have to have an effect there, I really hope it'll only be some BS little stat upgrades somewhere in some obscure menu, that I can ignore and not see if I don't want to. #triggered There shouldn't be a single thing in SP, not even a purely decorative trophy, that isn't available through purely SP play. I completely agree. But still, having the option of winnig whatever this AVG point are through MP, might be nice. I definitely was grateful for MP in ME3 making possible to avoid a lot of scanning and N7 missions
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Post by warbaby2 on Dec 7, 2016 18:08:31 GMT
I really really hope this is not the case. That sounds like a huge effect of MP on SP, even if you don't need the upgrades, just visually that would be a huge difference (and the visuals do matter as well). Ideally, MP shouldn't affect SP at all IMO. really don't know why BW insists that this is a good idea. But if they have to have an effect there, I really hope it'll only be some BS little stat upgrades somewhere in some obscure menu, that I can ignore and not see if I don't want to. #triggered There shouldn't be a single thing in SP, not even a purely decorative trophy, that isn't available through purely SP play. Agreed - please no reiteration of the war readiness system in ME3.
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Post by jackievakarian on Dec 7, 2016 18:27:23 GMT
100% they're going to force us to build the nexus ourselves in a similar way to the war assets in ME3. Or at the very least upgrade the nexus I only think that because of the Andromeda update where they said the nexus will only be partially built before they get to Andromeda. I swear to fucking god they better not have this fucking bullshit again. Or the least they can do is make it more tolerable, which it sounds like they are doing. Edit: Oh, I misread this. I thought you were referring to gathering resources in Skyhold and having to pass a threshold to continue the main story. Why the fuck is everyone worried they will bring back the War Asset thing? Bioware has confirmed time and time again that they won't force you to play the multiplayer. Where is everyone pulling this out of their ass? It has been confirmed that playing multiplayer will give you bonuses and incentives for the main campaign, but you aren't forced to play MP otherwise and it is optional. It won't effect the ending either.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2016 18:38:38 GMT
100% they're going to force us to build the nexus ourselves in a similar way to the war assets in ME3. Or at the very least upgrade the nexus I only think that because of the Andromeda update where they said the nexus will only be partially built before they get to Andromeda. I swear to fucking god they better not have this fucking bullshit again. Or the least they can do is make it more tolerable, which it sounds like they are doing. Edit: Oh, I misread this. I thought you were referring to gathering resources in Skyhold and having to pass a threshold to continue the main story. Why the fuck is everyone worried they will bring back the War Asset thing? Bioware has confirmed time and time again that they won't force you to play the multiplayer. Where is everyone pulling this out of their ass? It has been confirmed that playing multiplayer will give you bonuses and incentives for the main campaign, but you aren't forced to play MP otherwise and it is optional. It won't effect the ending either. If each upgrade of the Nexus will yield and actual interesting unlock of areas/functionalities of the Nexus, then its upgradability is not a bad thing.
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Post by jackievakarian on Dec 7, 2016 18:44:42 GMT
I swear to fucking god they better not have this fucking bullshit again. Or the least they can do is make it more tolerable, which it sounds like they are doing. Edit: Oh, I misread this. I thought you were referring to gathering resources in Skyhold and having to pass a threshold to continue the main story. Why the fuck is everyone worried they will bring back the War Asset thing? Bioware has confirmed time and time again that they won't force you to play the multiplayer. Where is everyone pulling this out of their ass? It has been confirmed that playing multiplayer will give you bonuses and incentives for the main campaign, but you aren't forced to play MP otherwise and it is optional. It won't effect the ending either. If each upgrade of the Nexus will yield and actual interesting unlock of areas/functionalities of the Nexus, then its upgradability is not a bad thing. That depends on how tedious it is, how high the unlock thresholds are and what exactly the new functions and upgrades are. I know there will be upgrades and crafting that will allow you to survive on more planets with more dangerous weather, but I'm not sure if that is more of an upgrade for Ryder or the Nexus. Probably Ryder. I can see Nexus upgrades advancing the plot, civilization and settlements, but we don't know exactly what the upgrades are. Or if you even upgrade the Nexus in the same way you upgrade Ryder or the Nomad, because I know you upgrade the Nomad and Ryder's powers with the same currency/XP, and the Nexus seems to be more based on resources. I could be wrong.
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Post by Element Zero on Dec 7, 2016 18:59:11 GMT
Everyone is getting all huffed and puffed about the AVPs, when we don't know what their purpose really is. It's entirely possible that they are points rewarded for accomplishing Nexus Mission Goals, and are spent on things other than building the Nexus. I understand why people jump to that conclusion, but it's not the only possibility.
I've said repeatedly what I think they are and some of the ways I think we will earn them. Points we earn via defending interests (SP and/or MP), taking strongholds, etc... sound to me like we are accomplishing the Ai Mission, the Nexus Mission Plan. Will that "build the Nexus"? Maybe. I could see it doing other things, though. Try to relax. The cup is not always half empty. This is entertainment we are discussing.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Dec 7, 2016 20:05:28 GMT
There shouldn't be a single thing in SP, not even a purely decorative trophy, that isn't available through purely SP play. Agreed - please no reiteration of the war readiness system in ME3. Indeed that's the one real nasty thing about ME3 I have no interest in MP and people shouldn't be forced into having to d oit in order to achieve the score they want. As long as both systems are kept seperate from one another then that's good for everyone. Both SP and M|P should be kept sepreate from one another much like they are in DAI. That way if people want to just play multiplayer they can and those of us who wantto play out a single player campainto acvhieve a certain result they can also. Win for both sides then.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Dec 7, 2016 20:10:41 GMT
100% they're going to force us to build the nexus ourselves in a similar way to the war assets in ME3. Or at the very least upgrade the nexus I only think that because of the Andromeda update where they said the nexus will only be partially built before they get to Andromeda. I swear to fucking god they better not have this fucking bullshit again. Or the least they can do is make it more tolerable, which it sounds like they are doing. Edit: Oh, I misread this. I thought you were referring to gathering resources in Skyhold and having to pass a threshold to continue the main story. Why the fuck is everyone worried they will bring back the War Asset thing? Bioware has confirmed time and time again that they won't force you to play the multiplayer. Where is everyone pulling this out of their ass? It has been confirmed that playing multiplayer will give you bonuses and incentives for the main campaign, but you aren't forced to play MP otherwise and it is optional. It won't effect the ending either. We'er only worried because they did this initially with ME3. Thankfully they used the DLC's to correct this problem so that eventually wasn't one any longer.We'er just hoping it stays away right from the beginning his time assuming it's even there.
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Post by jackievakarian on Dec 7, 2016 20:13:53 GMT
Everyone is getting all huffed and puffed about the AVPs, when we don't know what their purpose really is. It's entirely possible that they are points rewarded for accomplishing Nexus Mission Goals, and are spent on things other than building the Nexus. I understand why people jump to that conclusion, but it's not the only possibility. I've said repeatedly what I think they are and some of the ways I think we will earn them. Points we earn via defending interests (SP and/or MP), taking strongholds, etc... sound to me like we are accomplishing the Ai Mission, the Nexus Mission Plan. Will that "build the Nexus"? Maybe. I could see it doing other things, though. Try to relax. The cup is not always half empty. This is entertainment we are discussing. We're discussing the quality of entertainment.
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Post by Element Zero on Dec 7, 2016 20:18:09 GMT
I swear to fucking god they better not have this fucking bullshit again. Or the least they can do is make it more tolerable, which it sounds like they are doing. Edit: Oh, I misread this. I thought you were referring to gathering resources in Skyhold and having to pass a threshold to continue the main story. Why the fuck is everyone worried they will bring back the War Asset thing? Bioware has confirmed time and time again that they won't force you to play the multiplayer. Where is everyone pulling this out of their ass?It has been confirmed that playing multiplayer will give you bonuses and incentives for the main campaign, but you aren't forced to play MP otherwise and it is optional. It won't effect the ending either. We'er only worried because they did this initially with ME3. Thankfully they used the DLC's to correct this problem so that eventually wasn't one any longer.We'er just hoping it stays away right from the beginning his time assuming it's even there. As jackievakarian mentioned in his post, it's already been flatly stated that this won't happen in MEA. You can R-E-L-A-X.
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Post by jackievakarian on Dec 7, 2016 20:19:23 GMT
We'er only worried because they did this initially with ME3. Thankfully they used the DLC's to correct this problem so that eventually wasn't one any longer.We'er just hoping it stays away right from the beginning his time assuming it's even there. As jackievakarian mentioned in her post, it's already been flatly stated that this won't happen in MEA. You can R-E-L-A-X. Actually I'm a dude. But thank you anyway
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Post by Element Zero on Dec 7, 2016 20:25:03 GMT
Everyone is getting all huffed and puffed about the AVPs, when we don't know what their purpose really is. It's entirely possible that they are points rewarded for accomplishing Nexus Mission Goals, and are spent on things other than building the Nexus. I understand why people jump to that conclusion, but it's not the only possibility. I've said repeatedly what I think they are and some of the ways I think we will earn them. Points we earn via defending interests (SP and/or MP), taking strongholds, etc... sound to me like we are accomplishing the Ai Mission, the Nexus Mission Plan. Will that "build the Nexus"? Maybe. I could see it doing other things, though. Try to relax. The cup is not always half empty. This is entertainment we are discussing. We're discussing the quality of entertainment. Yeah, but some discuss it like we're dealing with a serious life crisis. An occasional reality check isn't out of order. Look how you're own words are completely ignored, in the post below. People tend to ignore the positives or neutrals and focus on the negatives, their worries and their fears. They also tend to jump to all sorts of unfounded conclusions. That's what I was suggesting, less bluntly. As is nearly always the case, the BSN could benefit from taking a deep breath, looking at the actual facts, and trying to relax. Anyway, I'm not here to antagonize or cause trouble in the thread. Please carry on and consider or ignore my words, as desired.
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Post by Element Zero on Dec 7, 2016 20:26:05 GMT
As jackievakarian mentioned in her post, it's already been flatly stated that this won't happen in MEA. You can R-E-L-A-X. Actually I'm a dude. But thank you anyway My bad dude. You even have the icon right there for me to check!
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Post by warbaby2 on Dec 7, 2016 20:26:59 GMT
As jackievakarian mentioned in her post, it's already been flatly stated that this won't happen in MEA. You can R-E-L-A-X. Actually I'm a dude. But thank you anyway That's the convincing Cloe impression you got going there. Problem with the Nexus system is: It most likely lends itself incredibly well to a MP tie in - think about it. Not only is there are progression system that it could play into, there are also outposts that need to be defended once the Pathfinder has established them... just like the MP mission in ME3 where basically missions to protect war assets. I hope I'm wrong...
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