Powers, Skill Trees and Active Abilities (Official Thread)

I know right? Abouta month ago I was: "meh, don't get hyped. You got hyped for DAI, and you just got hurt real bad. Learn your lesson already."

After the gameplay trailer: "Gimme NAO!"

Hey, fellow skill-o-philes, do we have any detailed information on charge and nova yet?

Nova seems like a primer, which is pretty odd for such a skill. I'd think detonator seems more up it's alley. But anyway, maybe it's like shockwave  where it suspends enemies in the air for a short time. And what's up with it having a cooldown? It no longer uses up your barrier? That's a shame, as it made it a very niche skill. But then again, seeing as you can slap on any profile and skill now, and it wouldn't work with profiles which use shields.
Also, it'sd be REALLY cool if nova changes primer or detonator baased on how it's used. Eg, if it's performed from the air, it's a detonator, if it's performed from the ground, it's a primer.  But that's probably a bit too cool I wouldn't hold my breath.

Charge is a detonator, but we know next to nothing about it's additional functionalities. I'm really curious for it. Can it also become a primer? That'd be great!

EDIT: I know I keep spamming this thread with builds, but it's just so interesting (and a slow day at the office...) So, I've added some playstyles that I have in my mind right now, for others to be inspired (or criticise). Enjoy! This is also probably the order in which I'll invest in skills. I'll probably use a modded revenant with the overload mechanism, and a chargable shotgun. 

1-profile playstyle



Explorer

overload

turbocharge

charge



2-profile playstyle



Vanguard

nova

charge

throw







Infiltrator

overload

cryo beam

turbocharge



3-profile playstyle



Vanguard

nova

charge

throw



Infiltrator

tactical cloak

turbocharge

lance



sentinel

cryo beam

annihilation field

overload



4-profile playstyle



Vanguard

nova

charge

throw



Infiltrator

tactical cloak

turbocharge

lance



Engineer

Incinerate

Overload

Shield drain



Sentinel

cryo beam

annihilation field

remnant VI

Oh its for the shield recharge, I see.

Yeah. I keep going back. Its like that scab that you can't help but pick at. I know the game is going to be good and that all will be revealed when it comes out, but instead of waiting for the wound to heal, I just keep picking at the bugger

Because it has a little primer insignia on the skill logo (top left). It does not have a detonator insignia.

Yes it seems you can definitely spec abilities rather or not you won't them to be primers or detonators. In one image shockwave is only a detonator, but in the other it's both

Either way, I need for nova to be a detonator for my build.

throw can definitely be both a detonator and primer. See the last seconds of gameplay in the video (I knwo by heart by now, lol).

You know as much as any of us right now, I think. I did also notice that Nova seems to be a potential primer, which suggests that it's now primarily a damage-dealer plus control power (as it knocks down even shielded enemies).

It has a cooldown because they seem to be trying to get away from skill spam in general, and Vanguard on 200% cooldown bonus + upgraded Charge + Half Nova was the definition of spam. Not to mention that most enemies literally couldn't kill you. Hard to balance around that on any difficulty, especially since all the classes would have access to it now.

Plus I think they're trying to find ways of making Combat skills more distinguishable and/or appealing, and many of those have no cooldowns (just limited consumables).

There are six levels of each profile, didn't catch that before.

Say again? 6 levels to each profile or each power/passive? What do you mean?