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Post by Gilsa on Dec 12, 2016 4:06:10 GMT
Personally I really do enjoy it because it adds a bit more depth to the characters and the story. I like that companions have a life instead of standing around waiting for the protagonist to stop for a chat. The only downside is how jealous some players can get like the Leliana/Alistair pairing in the Darkspawn DLC or being upset that Blackwall gave Josephine flowers and not to the Inquisitor. Those characters start to get a bit of undeserved hate and it can dampen the enjoyment of fan threads at times.
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Post by eternalgoddess on Dec 16, 2016 5:47:08 GMT
I like the idea of Peebee and Vetra getting together if we don't romance them. So that's a yes from me and I liked it in previous Bioware games when they did. Would like it even better if I could romance both of them myself.
Btw Javick the one with the crush on Liara it's becuase he's a Prothean she's interested in him. It's typical male behaviour that when they fancy a female. Happened to me all the time never was interested though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 8:03:11 GMT
If it makes sense for the characters.
I'd rather they avoided rivalmances however.
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Post by geometricflowers on Dec 26, 2016 9:50:43 GMT
If it makes sense for the characters. I'd rather they avoided rivalmances however. I think a well written rivalmance can work for a few certain characters, but for the most part I agree. As to our squadmates romancing each other if our protagonist isn't in the picture: sure, why not? It's like real life in that you have no right to jealousy if you're not together. If a potential LI that I haven't romanced hits up some other squadmate or starts to flirt with some character we run into out in the galaxy, good for them. It adds to my immersion if they have a life outside of their relationship with my PC.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2016 18:52:31 GMT
If it makes sense for the characters. I'd rather they avoided rivalmances however. I think a well written rivalmance can work for a few certain characters, but for the most part I agree. As to our squadmates romancing each other if our protagonist isn't in the picture: sure, why not? It's like real life in that you have no right to jealousy if you're not together. If a potential LI that I haven't romanced hits up some other squadmate or starts to flirt with some character we run into out in the galaxy, good for them. It adds to my immersion if they have a life outside of their relationship with my PC.I couldn't agree more with the bolded. It makes them seem more like real people.
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 27, 2016 5:48:54 GMT
I think a well written rivalmance can work for a few certain characters, but for the most part I agree. As to our squadmates romancing each other if our protagonist isn't in the picture: sure, why not? It's like real life in that you have no right to jealousy if you're not together. If a potential LI that I haven't romanced hits up some other squadmate or starts to flirt with some character we run into out in the galaxy, good for them. It adds to my immersion if they have a life outside of their relationship with my PC.I couldn't agree more with the bolded. It makes them seem more like real people. I think I agree. It would be nice to see some glimpses into what you might have had if you had romanced that person. Something for the next PT.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2016 18:31:05 GMT
Unless we wake up in a world where there's no such thing as a word budget and they can use all the voice acting they want-I have to say I'm against taking up assets for the side romances that never go any where and usually annoy me.
I've already suffered with Iron Bull in the previous game not only sleeping with a chantry lady, but having to keep him away from Dorian on top of that was a pain in the butt. Even if you romance one of them tons of the flirt banter happens ANYWAY. It's super annoying!
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 29, 2016 19:30:52 GMT
Unless we wake up in a world where there's no such thing as a word budget and they can use all the voice acting they want-I have to say I'm against taking up assets for the side romances that never go any where and usually annoy me. I've already suffered with Iron Bull in the previous game not only sleeping with a chantry lady, but having to keep him away from Dorian on top of that was a pain in the butt. Even if you romance one of them tons of the flirt banter happens ANYWAY. It's super annoying! Don't forget a few of the Skyhold servants too. But yeah, I have yet to have a case of this where it furthered my enjoyment of the game, and instead all lessened it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2016 21:22:10 GMT
Unless we wake up in a world where there's no such thing as a word budget and they can use all the voice acting they want-I have to say I'm against taking up assets for the side romances that never go any where and usually annoy me. I've already suffered with Iron Bull in the previous game not only sleeping with a chantry lady, but having to keep him away from Dorian on top of that was a pain in the butt. Even if you romance one of them tons of the flirt banter happens ANYWAY. It's super annoying! Don't forget a few of the Skyhold servants too. But yeah, I have yet to have a case of this where it furthered my enjoyment of the game, and instead all lessened it. true. I only really singled out that one cause she's standing right there at the door at Haven. so unless you plug your ears while frantically running by her you get that banter ever game before you can lock in a romance with Iron Bull. Mean while all the early game flirt options with him go no where-why does my inquisitor have no game? lol!
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 29, 2016 21:24:35 GMT
Don't forget a few of the Skyhold servants too. But yeah, I have yet to have a case of this where it furthered my enjoyment of the game, and instead all lessened it. true. I only really singled out that one cause she's standing right there at the door at Haven. so unless you plug your ears while frantically running by her you get that banter ever game before you can lock in a romance with Iron Bull. Mean while all the early game flirt options with him go no where-why does my inquisitor have no game? lol! To avoid that(other than not recruiting him I mean) I always go through the door from the other side. That way you don't get close enough to trigger the banter between the two Chantry sisters so I can pretend it doesn't happen.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2016 21:41:35 GMT
I may have to try that next play through.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Dec 29, 2016 22:45:34 GMT
No. I don't want this. I want to be the one and only overlord of romance.
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Post by Lorn on Jan 1, 2017 12:18:14 GMT
No, I do not want this because BioWare needs to conform to my puritanical standards!
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Post by CrutchCricket on Jan 1, 2017 20:00:32 GMT
Maybe. Or maybe we'll finally get that threesome they've been teasing since ME1....
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Post by Panda on Jan 2, 2017 12:12:13 GMT
I actually like when this happens so yes. I don't always understand the pairings, why these two are into each other, but there is many that I like. And I have no problem with my past-LI banging someone else while my new character is banging someone else. It's just fair.
Then above romantic/sexual relationships, I like friendships and rivalries between characters. One of my favorite features of ME3 was catching squadmates talking to each other, joking around, comforting each other, fighting.. it's just nice they aren't static characters who only interact with protagonist.
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Post by Walter Black on Jan 2, 2017 15:05:57 GMT
Just out of curiosity, is it just the possible sex you are opposed to, or that you do not want characters to have meaningful relationships outside the PC?
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Post by Walter Black on Jan 2, 2017 15:09:23 GMT
Unless we wake up in a world where there's no such thing as a word budget and they can use all the voice acting they want-I have to say I'm against taking up assets for the side romances that never go any where and usually annoy me. I've already suffered with Iron Bull in the previous game not only sleeping with a chantry lady, but having to keep him away from Dorian on top of that was a pain in the butt. Even if you romance one of them tons of the flirt banter happens ANYWAY. It's super annoying! Both Bull and Dorian are flirty characters, so you knew what you were getting into when you initiated their romance arcs. You can't go to a Chinese restaurant and complain that there's no pizza .
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 2, 2017 18:01:09 GMT
Just out of curiosity, is it just the possible sex you are opposed to, or that you do not want characters to have meaningful relationships outside the PC? Neither, actually. I don't want it because it ruins those romances for me. Not in the sense that I should be the only one they love, but in fact the opposite. They usually do a good job with those relationships that I can't do those romances because then I feel bad because feels like I am ruining something.
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Post by Walter Black on Jan 2, 2017 18:50:06 GMT
Just out of curiosity, is it just the possible sex you are opposed to, or that you do not want characters to have meaningful relationships outside the PC? Neither, actually. I don't want it because it ruins those romances for me. Not in the sense that I should be the only one they love, but in fact the opposite. They usually do a good job with those relationships that I can't do those romances because then I feel bad because feels like I am ruining something. Which ones? Fenris and Isabella are just physical, Aveline doesn't see Hawke that way, Josephine doesn't give Ortranto a chance one way or another, and based on some of your prior comments I don't think you would want Bull or Dorian anyway. Garrus and Tali might evolve beyond a fling, but that one scene doesn't compare to amount of content they have with Shepard. Like it or not, your scenario still prohibits characters having a life outside the player. Not to mention that each playthrough is an alternate reality unto itself, so all the characters don't have to match every time.
Maybe my experiences have jaded me, but I find the myth of "One True Love" ultimately depressing. Aside from the statistical unlikelihood of meeting that one person, it puts massive limitations on who people can bond with. Are they bigoted, narcissistic, and/or control freaks? Are they so afraid of being hurt that they don't want to take a chance outside their comfort zone? Do they have trouble forming connections? Speaking as an introvert myself, I agree it can be difficult to find such a person. That said, I can connect with women different than me (to balance out my weaknesses) as well as the same (for common ground).
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 2, 2017 19:12:06 GMT
Neither, actually. I don't want it because it ruins those romances for me. Not in the sense that I should be the only one they love, but in fact the opposite. They usually do a good job with those relationships that I can't do those romances because then I feel bad because feels like I am ruining something. Which ones? Fenris and Isabella are just physical, Aveline doesn't see Hawke that way, Josephine doesn't give Ortranto a chance one way or another, and based on some of your prior comments I don't think you would want Bull or Dorian anyway. Garrus and Tali might evolve beyond a fling, but that one scene doesn't compare to amount of content they have with Shepard. Like it or not, your scenario still prohibits characters having a life outside the player. Not to mention that each playthrough is an alternate reality unto itself, so all the characters don't have to match every time.
Maybe my experiences have jaded me, but I find the myth of "One True Love" ultimately depressing. Aside from the statistical unlikelihood of meeting that one person, it puts massive limitations on who people can bond with. Are they bigoted, narcissistic, and/or control freaks? Are they so afraid of being hurt that they don't want to take a chance outside their comfort zone? Do they have trouble forming connections? Speaking as an introvert myself, I agree it can be difficult to find such a person. That said, I can connect with women different than me (to balance out my weaknesses) as well as the same (for common ground).
Fenris and Isabela bug me for other reasons that have bugged a lot of fans of them, particularly Fenris. He only has sex with Hawke once yet that freaks him out and causes him to drop the relationship for three years, yet with Isabela apparently he has no issue. Plus the fact I got that dialogue while romancing them(I know it was likely a bug but still). Aveline I'm fine with since as you said she is never interested in Hawke that way so I'm not interfering with anything. Josephine I barely dodged a bullet due to that quasi-attraction between her and Rainier, who also talked about his stalker-ness even when I was in a romance with Josephine(again, I know now it was a bug but still), since nothing ever comes of it(and I hate Rainier and he doesn't deserve happiness). And Josephine doesn't love Otranto and tries to break it off herself in her own way so you aren't interfering with love. What comments are you referring to regarding The Iron Bull and Dorian? You're right about me not wanting The Iron Bull though I gave it a try, but I enjoyed my Dorian romance. Garrus and Tali are a prime example of it ruining their romances for me, since both were close friends of Shepard and Shepard wants them to be happy so I feel guilty romancing either one. That's fine that you feel that way, but for various reasons from biological to personal I don't. I mean, I know there is more than just The One out there for a person, but that doesn't apply to games same way you can only date a few people rather than anybody. So I feel bad about breaking that strong bond between the characters.
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Post by Catilina on Jan 2, 2017 19:20:27 GMT
Fenris and Isabela bug me for other reasons that have bugged a lot of fans of them, particularly Fenris. He only has sex with Hawke once yet that freaks him out and causes him to drop the relationship for three years, yet with Isabela apparently he has no issue. Plus the fact I got that dialogue while romancing them(I know it was likely a bug but still). Aveline I'm fine with since as you said she is never interested in Hawke that way so I'm not interfering with anything. Josephine I barely dodged a bullet due to that quasi-attraction between her and Rainier, who also talked about his stalker-ness even when I was in a romance with Josephine(again, I know now it was a bug but still), since nothing ever comes of it(and I hate Rainier and he doesn't deserve happiness). And Josephine doesn't love Otranto and tries to break it off herself in her own way so you aren't interfering with love. What comments are you referring to regarding The Iron Bull and Dorian? You're right about me not wanting The Iron Bull though I gave it a try, but I enjoyed my Dorian romance. Garrus and Tali are a prime example of it ruining their romances for me, since both were close friends of Shepard and Shepard wants them to be happy so I feel guilty romancing either one. That's fine that you feel that way, but for various reasons from biological to personal I don't. I mean, I know there is more than just The One out there for a person, but that doesn't apply to games same way you can only date a few people rather than anybody. So I feel bad about breaking that strong bond between the characters. But in the world of your character, who loves Fenris/Isabela/Tali/Garrus/Dorian/Bull this love does not exist. In this world these companions loves your character. (Poor Anders lonely always, if Hawke not in love with him... this don't bother you? So: your Hawke can romance Anders – just not rivalry, please: that kills him slowly!) I like the idea of the romances between the companions.
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Post by Walter Black on Jan 2, 2017 19:29:18 GMT
You're right about me not wanting The Iron Bull though I gave it a try, but I enjoyed my Dorian romance. That's fine that you feel that way, but for various reasons from biological to personal I don't. I mean, I know there is more than just The One out there for a person, but that doesn't apply to games same way you can only date a few people rather than anybody. So I feel bad about breaking that strong bond between the characters. Hunh, I would have figured Dorian's snark, ego and casualness on slavery would have turned you off of him. I stand corrected.
I guess I simply don't the same connections to the characters that you do. To me, each playthrough is a completely different entity. To use a comics analogy, for me Shepard and Ash are Pre-Crisis, Femshep and Garrus are Post-Crisis, and Garrus and Tali are New 52 .
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 2, 2017 20:14:47 GMT
You're right about me not wanting The Iron Bull though I gave it a try, but I enjoyed my Dorian romance. That's fine that you feel that way, but for various reasons from biological to personal I don't. I mean, I know there is more than just The One out there for a person, but that doesn't apply to games same way you can only date a few people rather than anybody. So I feel bad about breaking that strong bond between the characters. Hunh, I would have figured Dorian's snark, ego and casualness on slavery would have turned you off of him. I stand corrected.
I guess I simply don't the same connections to the characters that you do. To me, each playthrough is a completely different entity. To use a comics analogy, for me Shepard and Ash are Pre-Crisis, Femshep and Garrus are Post-Crisis, and Garrus and Tali are New 52 .
He wasn't my favorite by any means, but I can't say I had to force myself through the romance as I had to with some other romances. Though yes those attributes you stated relegated him to being my romance only once to see what is was like. I don't really read comics but I understand what you are saying, just that doesn't work for me. I'm a bit envious. But in the world of your character, who loves Fenris/Isabela/Tali/Garrus/Dorian/Bull this love does not exist. In this world these companions loves your character. (Poor Anders lonely always, if Hawke not in love with him... this don't bother you? So: your Hawke can romance Anders – just not rivalry, please: that kills him slowly!) I like the idea of the romances between the companions. Yes they do still exist. And yes while the character I romance has love, the character they would romance if not for me does not. Anders doesn't deserve happiness or love.
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Post by Catilina on Jan 2, 2017 20:21:39 GMT
[...] But in the world of your character, who loves Fenris/Isabela/Tali/Garrus/Dorian/Bull this love does not exist. In this world these companions loves your character. (Poor Anders lonely always, if Hawke not in love with him... this don't bother you? So: your Hawke can romance Anders – just not rivalry, please: that kills him slowly!) I like the idea of the romances between the companions. Yes they do still exist. And yes while the character I romance has love, the character they would romance if not for me does not. Anders doesn't deserve happiness or love. No, this romances not exist in world, where the mentioned companions in love with your character, only in that world, where your character love with other companions (or no one). The romances between the companions makes them more real. (Yes, I know your opinion about Anders, but always fascinated me as you decide who deserves love and who deserves death. I simply can't resist, sorry. You are the true Justice! Then go with Solas. He lonely too.)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 2:50:52 GMT
No, I do not want this because BioWare needs to conform to my puritanical standards!
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