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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 4:39:32 GMT
Unless we wake up in a world where there's no such thing as a word budget and they can use all the voice acting they want-I have to say I'm against taking up assets for the side romances that never go any where and usually annoy me. I've already suffered with Iron Bull in the previous game not only sleeping with a chantry lady, but having to keep him away from Dorian on top of that was a pain in the butt. Even if you romance one of them tons of the flirt banter happens ANYWAY. It's super annoying! Both Bull and Dorian are flirty characters, so you knew what you were getting into when you initiated their romance arcs. You can't go to a Chinese restaurant and complain that there's no pizza  . I wouldn't say it is an unreasonable expectation to want one's love interest to not flirt with other party members after the relationship is locked in. I know Iron Bull was promiscuous before he got with the inquisitor, but he specifically says he will be completely true to the quizzy directly after they first start off (you don't even have to give him the necklace). If you like it great, but I think it's a valid complaint. |
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Post by Lorn on Jan 3, 2017 5:11:43 GMT
Both Bull and Dorian are flirty characters, so you knew what you were getting into when you initiated their romance arcs. You can't go to a Chinese restaurant and complain that there's no pizza . I know Iron Bull was promiscuous before he got with the inquisitor, but he specifically says he will be completely true to the quizzy directly after they first start off (you don't even have to give him the necklace). If you like it great, but I think it's a valid complaint.
So what you start off saying that if a LI flirts with anyone else after the romance is locked in then it's a problem, then you point out that once the romance with Iron Bull is locked in (unless you end it yourself) he will not be flirty with anyone else, but then you say it's a valid complaint? I better example would be using Isabella and Zevran, however the option is present for the player to take part, but that only angers people that are a bit more controlling about their significant others...  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 10:57:16 GMT
I wouldn't say it is an unreasonable expectation to want one's love interest to not flirt with other party members after the relationship is locked in. I know Iron Bull was promiscuous before he got with the inquisitor, but he specifically says he will be completely true to the quizzy directly after they first start off (you don't even have to give him the necklace). If you like it great, but I think it's a valid complaint.
So what you start off saying that if a LI flirts with anyone else after the romance is locked in then it's a problem, then you point out that once the romance with Iron Bull is locked in (unless you end it yourself) he will not be flirty with anyone else, but then you say it's a valid complaint? I better example would be using Isabella and Zevran, however the option is present for the player to take part, but that only angers people that are a bit more controlling about their significant others... I was pointing out that it doesn't make sense that he flirts with Dorian after he says he will be faithful to the Inquisitor. The Zevran scene is more of an issue for me personally because it's glitches to where He doesn't remember being in a relationship with the Warden. (which should cause him to turn her down if that's the case) |
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Post by Walter Black on Jan 3, 2017 16:01:59 GMT
Hunh, I would have figured Dorian's snark, ego and casualness on slavery would have turned you off of him. I stand corrected.
I guess I simply don't the same connections to the characters that you do. To me, each playthrough is a completely different entity. To use a comics analogy, for me Shepard and Ash are Pre-Crisis, Femshep and Garrus are Post-Crisis, and Garrus and Tali are New 52  .
He wasn't my favorite by any means, but I can't say I had to force myself through the romance as I had to with some other romances. Though yes those attributes you stated relegated him to being my romance only once to see what is was like. I don't really read comics but I understand what you are saying, just that doesn't work for me. I'm a bit envious. Pre and Post Crisis refers to Crisis on Infinite Earths, a massive crossover event that was basically an in universe excuse for DC to reboot their main books, as was the New 52. I'll give Superman as one example; in Pre-Crisis times, he was stuck in an endless "triangle" where Lois Lane loved the Man of Steel but merely pitied Clark Kent. Post-Crisis, new writers decided to have them behave like actual adults and get married. Come the turn of millennium, various editors decided that characters being married was "boring" and made them "too old"*. Thus in the New 52, Superman got together with Wonder Woman, since she was "more on his level" than Lois . Couldn't tell you what happened in Flashpoint or Rebirth, as I've lost interest in the monthly serials and stick to independent stories.
*I'm not the first person to notice that most of the creators (more often than not men) who declare married people boring and too old are curiously old enough for their own mid life crisis  .
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Post by Raga on Jan 5, 2017 20:50:40 GMT
Fenris and Isabela bug me for other reasons that have bugged a lot of fans of them, particularly Fenris. He only has sex with Hawke once yet that freaks him out and causes him to drop the relationship for three years, yet with Isabela apparently he has no issue. Plus the fact I got that dialogue while romancing them(I know it was likely a bug but still). Aveline I'm fine with since as you said she is never interested in Hawke that way so I'm not interfering with anything. Josephine I barely dodged a bullet due to that quasi-attraction between her and Rainier, who also talked about his stalker-ness even when I was in a romance with Josephine(again, I know now it was a bug but still), since nothing ever comes of it(and I hate Rainier and he doesn't deserve happiness). And Josephine doesn't love Otranto and tries to break it off herself in her own way so you aren't interfering with love. What comments are you referring to regarding The Iron Bull and Dorian? You're right about me not wanting The Iron Bull though I gave it a try, but I enjoyed my Dorian romance. Garrus and Tali are a prime example of it ruining their romances for me, since both were close friends of Shepard and Shepard wants them to be happy so I feel guilty romancing either one. That's fine that you feel that way, but for various reasons from biological to personal I don't. I mean, I know there is more than just The One out there for a person, but that doesn't apply to games same way you can only date a few people rather than anybody. So I feel bad about breaking that strong bond between the characters. But in the world of your character, who loves Fenris/Isabela/Tali/Garrus/Dorian/Bull this love does not exist. In this world these companions loves your character. (Poor Anders lonely always, if Hawke not in love with him... this don't bother you? So: your Hawke can romance Anders – just not rivalry, please: that kills him slowly!) I like the idea of the romances between the companions. Sorta OT, but for me the rivalmance is the only way to go for Anders. Followed by killing him. Hawke even had unique dialog about this in DAI which pleasantly surprised me. |
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Post by Raga on Jan 5, 2017 20:57:35 GMT
Both Bull and Dorian are flirty characters, so you knew what you were getting into when you initiated their romance arcs. You can't go to a Chinese restaurant and complain that there's no pizza . I wouldn't say it is an unreasonable expectation to want one's love interest to not flirt with other party members after the relationship is locked in. I know Iron Bull was promiscuous before he got with the inquisitor, but he specifically says he will be completely true to the quizzy directly after they first start off (you don't even have to give him the necklace). If you like it great, but I think it's a valid complaint. I can't agree with this without being hypocritical because I enjoyed the heck out of silly platonic flirting with Vega while doing a Garrus romance. Heck there is even a renegade interrupt for this in the tango scene which is quite entertaining. Likewise, my straight maleHawke play flirted with Anders while in a Merrill romance. And I routinely play flirt with Dorian when playing a character romancing Solas. I see no reason my LI can't have the same fun I'm having. In fact, flirty, snarky LIs are my favorite, so I would probably enjoy it. Then *I* get to be the one pulling them back in during the tango scene. Sounds fun. *Edit* It depends on how its done. Silly, platonic flirting sounds fun. Cheating on me and impregnating another woman (I'm looking at you Jacob) doesn't sound so fun. I never romanced Jacob but just the knowledge he will do that is infuriating. |
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Post by Catilina on Jan 5, 2017 21:05:02 GMT
But in the world of your character, who loves Fenris/Isabela/Tali/Garrus/Dorian/Bull this love does not exist. In this world these companions loves your character. (Poor Anders lonely always, if Hawke not in love with him... this don't bother you? So: your Hawke can romance Anders – just not rivalry, please: that kills him slowly!) I like the idea of the romances between the companions. Sorta OT, but for me the rivalmance is the only way to go for Anders. Followed by killing him. Hawke even had unique dialog about this in DAI which pleasantly surprised me. (Yes, in rivalry a good choice to kill him, instead to torture him until the slow death. I can imagine, that likes this dialogue, who dislike Anders. I prefer the friend/supporter version.) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 5:16:48 GMT
I wouldn't say it is an unreasonable expectation to want one's love interest to not flirt with other party members after the relationship is locked in. I know Iron Bull was promiscuous before he got with the inquisitor, but he specifically says he will be completely true to the quizzy directly after they first start off (you don't even have to give him the necklace). If you like it great, but I think it's a valid complaint. I can't agree with this without being hypocritical because I enjoyed the heck out of silly platonic flirting with Vega while doing a Garrus romance. Heck there is even a renegade interrupt for this in the tango scene which is quite entertaining. Likewise, my straight maleHawke play flirted with Anders while in a Merrill romance. And I routinely play flirt with Dorian when playing a character romancing Solas. I see no reason my LI can't have the same fun I'm having. In fact, flirty, snarky LIs are my favorite, so I would probably enjoy it. Then *I* get to be the one pulling them back in during the tango scene. Sounds fun. *Edit* It depends on how its done. Silly, platonic flirting sounds fun. Cheating on me and impregnating another woman (I'm looking at you Jacob) doesn't sound so fun. I never romanced Jacob but just the knowledge he will do that is infuriating. Understandable. Everyone has their limits on what they like and can put up with! I never romanced Jacob either, and I almost did with my first run since I played as female shep the first playthrough of ME2. Something about him rubbed me the wrong way though, and I went with Thane. That didn't end much better, but my shep moved on to Kaidan. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 5:52:51 GMT
Unless it compromise the mission or myself, what they do in the bedroom is their business.
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