Morrigan thread - "Tis cold in my tent, all alone..."

Can you call her out on the book? Since I despise Morrigan and mostly ignore her, I really don't know, but it would be cool - a cause for lovers quarrel

That's a wasted opportunity for character developement. I think, there should be more quarrels among the pairings  - without ending the romance. I liked it with the Zevran romance, where you can quarreal about him not being clear with the earring.

Sounds great. I just let AListair do the dark ritual, so that my GW can ride into the sunset with Zevran. But it is so hilarious, how both, Morrigan and Ali, are not amused

Hm. Morriganmancers and people who accepted the Dark ritual, I gotta ask you - which Kieran do you prefer? OG!Kieran or human!Kieran?

When I played the game for the first time in 2009, I obviously chose to do the Dark ritual... mostly to get naked scene, because 12 year old davesin really liked boobies. Now I'm slightly more mature and when I play the endgame part of Origins, I can't bring myself to do it even when the PC is romancing Morrigan. Putting Urthamiel's soul on a little boy with who-knows-what effects on his mind doesn't sound good to me (well, I know what effects, but that's metagaming. And even when metagaming, OG!Kieran is quite creepy).

Pragmatic Warden who isn't full into social darwinism, I suppose. Definitely not a paragon of virtue, but acting according to Morrigan all the time is often unproductive.

Normal Kieran for sure.

It amazes me that when people discuss the morality of the Dark Ritual, the fact that it involves using an unborn baby as a lab rat doesn't even enter the picture.

It doesn't cross anyone's mind that experimenting on your son may be a questionable choice.

A GW concentrated on the task - to gether an army à la cannon fodder. Pragmatism takes the 1st place here, not romances (sure there could be asshole GWs - just do anything, won't go anywhere anyway, the main task - romance or lure someone to the tent, the rest can wait, not a big deal).
With Morrigan - just leave her in the camp or give cakes - as I wrote somewhere, only with Evil PT (though I consider it's "Grey PT" anyway - can explain EVERY decision I made in "Evil PT" and why they are more reasonable) Morrigan approved everything but leaving Cailan's body for the darkspawn to have fun.
So both GW characters are suitable for Morrigan, she changes in both cases and in the long run it doesn't matter: she is still a lying bitch, even in DAI.


on one hand it's really creepy to accept such ritual from such likes as Morrigan, proposing it "just in time", BUT knowing that Flemeth is ivolved it doesn't seem so creepy - I don't see it as experiment on a child, Flemeth knows what she is doing (but after DAI knowing that Flemeth gave powers to that fucking Solas I would reconsider the ritual - I trust Flemeth in a way, but not that "all-the-time-screwing-asshole").
Remember, SVP, it's another universe, there are a lot of questions, puzzles, strange things we know nothing about - so making a ritual is not a big deal if you think of this: it is magic, magic that can change everything conidering GWs (where your GW won't die), in DLC WH Morrigan (if I understood correctly) gives some info to the GW about "how not to die from the calling". So thinking of this, don't you think it's worth investigating even if a child is born with a soul of a God? I say "yes".
Even Duncan mentions in the beginning that the darkspawn is all that matters, other things are just "nothings". And if there is a way to improve GW abilities, to investigate something new that can help with the future Blights (in case if they happen - only I think Solas will happen to scew everything again and again), I will do that.
Again, wrote it sevral times: it's a war, a grim realy of ANY war - people die anyway, sacrafices are made anyway; you can't avoide it.
In this case, if you prefer calling it that way - a child is a sacrafice made to get more info to fight GREATER threat. But I don't see the boy as a sacrafice - I see it as pragmatism. A GW is pragmatic using logic, brains, thinking about greater evil.
Grim for someone as a child is involved? Why?Because he is a child and nothing else? See nothing bad in it. Pragmatism is all that matters here.
Don't forget, please, it's DAU, not our world!

I don't see it as something aweful - to survive the battle using that ritual. As I see it: a GW just learns something new about the Blight, how to get rid of the calling + maybe something else.
Kieran is save anyway - Flemeth takes the soul of the God anyway and he simply remains a boy.
But yeah, OG Kieran is very interesting for talking with him.

Many Grey Wardens already have children before joining their ranks, so it could be that since Kieran doesn’t always exist.

I know the very last thing any Morrigan fan wants to see is another woman’s semi-nude body, but @kalinkafox has been posting some cosplay pics that I thought were pretty decent. The first two spoilers are OK, but the third spoiler has some NSFW images.

It is always a good thing to do with any thread forgotten for some time.



Your GW is so kind.
Even if I really like Morrrigan as a character in the game and always help her (she is different, not becaue I want to "tent" her), she, after saying those "friend-sister" words, just left you, just like that stupid Alistair - both did not get what they wanted.

I always stab her in DLC WH. Just can't choose other options as she simply lied, her those "friendly" words meant nothing at all after she just left you instead of helping even if she did not get her god-child.

No real friend would do such a thing.


But I still admire how Morrigan was made, C.Black voice in awesome.
Morrigan is "evil" yes, though for me it simply means "different", that is all.

But I can never forgive that backstab from her when she just left.