Character Creator & Character Customization (Official Thread)

My sides XD I had a Ross reaction.

Good starting points--but then you can't change that preset's eye shape, nose shape, mouth shape, brow shape. That's the source of the criticism--that you can't really veer from that starting point very much. That every head 8 will end up looking like head 8. This is the even more diverse future, so if someone wants to make their character mixed race with interesting features that appeal to that player or are familiar to them, why shouldn't they be able to? 

And I find it really perplexing that women can't choose the afro style the men have, nor men the pixie cut. If those styles fit our characters... why not? 

Hey, you don't have to defend that to me! Nothing wrong with choosing a color scheme that's aesthetically pleasing or familiar to you; I am addicted to freckles and red hair myself (*lol*) but I love the range you've chosen and I don't feel it looks samey at all. I like that Bioware always give us such a range of options of skin, though I miss the complexion options in ME:A so far because having seen a few naturally freckled African redheads, that was a look I really wanted to try to see if I could recreate at some point.

I see the difference in facial structure in all your Inquisitors; they don't look samey to me at all, and I love what you've done. I feel like your work is a great example of exactly why I love customizing, and would miss it acutely if this CC doesn't change. I love seeing what's possible beyond the restrictions of presets.

I'm in the same place with you--just want the basics here. The options we're used to which really alter the whole, if it's at all possible.

Bravo to all of that! People keep saying "but you can make a pretty Ryder." I like being able to make a pretty one if I want to, sure, but pretty's not always what a player is going for.

I fully, 100% support having good realistic presets which are already fairly pretty for those who just like to grab it and go. That is good. It should be that way for that type of player, and also for those of us who customize it's nice to have a harmonious base to work from! Far preferable to having a lot of really weird randomized presets that make everyone cringe. But we should still be able to change what we're used to, at least a little! I was crazy about the nose tip and bridge sliders for depth. I loved being able to make really different-looking noses. I loved being able to open and close the lids to make a more wide-eyed idealistic character, or a more hardass character. My brunette elf looked way tougher to me than my flirtatious and cheerful auburn-haired nice elf, and that changed how I played them. I liked that.

Being able to make a character that feels like it's ours is just really essential to people like us. I don't hate anyone for feeling otherwise, not at all... but if we're able to share our Ryders, that only really matters when we can make them ours and not 9 flavors of preset. Otherwise the feature is kind of superfluous. 

Yep. Sure you can make quite nice Asian character with the CC, Abilitydrain made one and I was quite happy with CC after seeing that cause I thought you could do a lot with it. But now if I make Asian character with CC she will look exactly like Abilitydrains. Same preset with only options to move facial features around without actually doing anything else with them isn't going to make characters look different from each other if the preset is same. Only hair and eyecolor can be different.

So to people saying that you can look nice character with the CC look at Abilitydrains Sara.. yes, but that's going to be all our Asian Sara's

It is funny that we are supposed to be 22 but most male and female presets (but especially the male ones) look wayyyy older! At least in DAI the inquisitors agebwas not defined,right? So we could make them older if we wanted.

Uh...well on the bright side the eyebrows seems to be an improvement? This is really disappointing.

Yet another slider that is missing from MEA -- complexion.  :smh:

Especially since they went out of their way to make it easier to import someone else's Ryder! Why bother? 

Wow, all the presets are hideous.

DISCLAIMER: I'm not trying to offend anyone or make this a representation issue. English isn't my first language and it's a little hard to find the words for what I'm trying to explain.

Regarding femRyders: I just realized something odd. How are both of the asian faces lighter skinned than the blonde face. You could argue tan, but afaik asians tan too. As a northern-southern-european-mix who has dabbled in asian make-up, it's near impossible to find foundation light enough in asian brands, even when I'm tanned. Granted my experience is mainly with Korean brands and for all I know Japanese and Chinese are paler. I know there's a skintone slider but it's based on the preset's default skintone and I'm pretty sure your average natural blonde is going to be paler than your average East Asian.

What I can see from presets basing on the matching mryder, there's 3x black, 2x East Asian, I guess Indian, Hispanic, blonde and I'm not sure what #2 is supposed to represent.

While all the ethnicities could use some additional presets in this CC of lacking sliders. I am a bit offended that BW thought a tan fake blonde was enough to represent the multiple colors, tones and shapes even your stereotypical white person comes in. As a milk pale person with dark eyes and hair with thick eyebrows and hooded eyelids, I dont see myself being able to make a self-insert even if I wanted to. And I'm pretty typical when it comes to how Europeans look.

The default Ryders are what the "light" presets should look like. Paleish skintone that matches multiple different hair and eyecolors with fairly generic facial features.

I'd like to also bring up the ginger Suvi who looks plastic and doll like. It seems MEA is using a shader that makes lighter characters look bad unless extra time is spent on them (default Ryders, Cora, Alec).

Now that I wrote this I'm wondering if I should even post. Someone is just going to take it the wrong way. Look, all I'm trying to say is that the blonde preset is terrible as the only "lighter" option.

This is highly disappointing news, the combination of having so few character creator sliders and the plain ugly presets will not make may a happy gamer, especially with the very good Dragon Age Inquisition Character Creator fresh in my head. I might wait another month or two before playing the game with the hope they'll add some more options for customization.

Seems to me they've had serious issues with all facial animations during development process so they even limited the character creator as far as they could get away with to decrease the chances of further ramifications. I think some developers screwed up. Badly.


I think we have finally reached the age of total regression. Politically, economically, technologically and now with electronic entertainment /media too. 

I totally agree. I would love to have the default as a starting base and then customize. It's just stupid that you cant recreate the default in the cc.

Not to rain on your parade but they do, Sarah especially. And with those cringy face animations your better of creating your own.