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Post by adasirin on Mar 18, 2017 3:13:09 GMT
Just tweeted them again. This is so confusing and bewildering I absolutely need an answer.
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Post by Hier0phant on Mar 18, 2017 3:14:11 GMT
The streamer probably encountered some type of rendering glitch that's hard to reproduce.
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Post by adasirin on Mar 18, 2017 3:15:03 GMT
The streamer probably encountered some type of rendering glitch that's hard to reproduce. Hahaha, a rendering glitch that happens to make Ryder super attractive?
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Post by xMissWoox on Mar 18, 2017 3:16:18 GMT
I don't suppose it could be a graphics quality issue? Notice the difference in the depth of field effect between the two images. Maybe she just looks different due to the discrepancies in graphics/lighting/texture & mesh quality? Only thing I can really think of.
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Post by adasirin on Mar 18, 2017 3:17:21 GMT
I don't suppose it could be a graphics quality issue? Notice the difference in the depth of field effect between the two images. Maybe she just looks different due to the discrepancies in graphics/lighting/texture & mesh quality? Only thing I can really think of. Nah, the facial structure is totally different. As are smaller details like the eyebrow shape.
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Post by Hier0phant on Mar 18, 2017 3:21:02 GMT
The streamer probably encountered some type of rendering glitch that's hard to reproduce. Hahaha, a rendering glitch that happens to make Ryder super attractive? lol that wouldn't surprise me though. #BioWareMontreal.
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Post by XKnight on Mar 18, 2017 3:26:00 GMT
I don't suppose it could be a graphics quality issue? Notice the difference in the depth of field effect between the two images. Maybe she just looks different due to the discrepancies in graphics/lighting/texture & mesh quality? Only thing I can really think of. Nah, the facial structure is totally different. As are smaller details like the eyebrow shape. yep. even though the overall face structures are too similar for mystery face to be a custom creation. they are similar, but there are subtle differences that make mystery face look much better and prettier.
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Post by Hier0phant on Mar 18, 2017 3:26:56 GMT
If this was on pc then i'd chalk it up to there being hidden graphics files like with Watchdogs but this stream is supposed to be from an XBone copy.
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Post by XKnight on Mar 18, 2017 3:27:16 GMT
Also.. Where's our Sara Ryder trailer? I thought that was coming like right away? Perhaps.... They DID change her face? We can only hope. And I want to customize it.... That would be a dream come true if they somehow stealth updated the default Sara model.....lol. because that would solve a lot of my female CC problems. I WOULD use default Sara if she looked like the mystery version.
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Post by PhantomJLK on Mar 18, 2017 3:36:17 GMT
Based of the EA access CC, its disappointing in my opinion, especially for the female characters, It was impossible to get the character I wanted, i restarted at least 4x to no avail.
Going off of one I just said and previous comments about the face(preset 1) in the french video, there is no way in H*ll to get a female player character to look like that. Sorry.
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Post by metta on Mar 18, 2017 4:18:11 GMT
Haven't read the entire thread, but have they said if they will do anything about the CC and if so when?
I don't know whether to worried or relived after seeing that pretty f-Ryder that doesn't seem to be from any of the presets. Should I be relieved that they have more presets that they can add? Or worried that they seemed to have removed a seemingly great preset?
How difficult would it be to make the eyebrows,eyes,nose and mouth switchable? I hope they can make it able change complexions without much difficulty.
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Post by mrobnoxiousuk on Mar 18, 2017 4:20:32 GMT
Haven't read the entire thread, but have they said if they will do anything about the CC and if so when? I don't know whether to worried or relived after seeing that pretty f-Ryder that doesn't seem to be from any of the presets. Should I be relieved that they have more presets that they can add? Or worried that they seemed to have removed a seemingly great preset? How difficult would it be to make the eyebrows,eyes,nose and mouth switchable? I hope they can make it able change complexions without much difficulty. They have hand waved umm'd and aww'd and gave vague assurances that something "MAY" be done without giving anything concrete like a date in return.
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Post by metta on Mar 18, 2017 4:28:20 GMT
Haven't read the entire thread, but have they said if they will do anything about the CC and if so when? I don't know whether to worried or relived after seeing that pretty f-Ryder that doesn't seem to be from any of the presets. Should I be relieved that they have more presets that they can add? Or worried that they seemed to have removed a seemingly great preset? How difficult would it be to make the eyebrows,eyes,nose and mouth switchable? I hope they can make it able change complexions without much difficulty. They have hand waved umm'd and aww'd and gave vague assurances that something "MAY" be done without giving anything concrete like a date in return. So the usual stuff. There goes me hoping something is done relatively soon... I just don't understand it. They have to had known how badly their CC would be received.
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Post by XKnight on Mar 18, 2017 4:30:18 GMT
so, I've now seen vids where they show the male model who default Scott Ryder is supposed to be based on. and default Scott does look like said model.
but then that just begs the question, what the heck did Bioware do to default Sara? She looks nothing like the extremely attractive and beautiful model she's supposed to be based on.
I mean......seriously........wth??!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 4:32:36 GMT
so, I've now seen vids where they show the male model who default Scott Ryder is supposed to be based on. and default Scott does look like said model. but then that just begs the question, what the heck did Bioware do to default Sara? She looks nothing like the extremely attractive and beautiful model she's supposed to be based on. I mean......seriously........wth??!! There are a lot of theories. Mostly involving Bioware catering to feminazis and some such, but yeah the default look is not that similar to its model. I like it though, she looks adorable, and her voice acting makes her out to be kind of a nerd, which is awesome.
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Post by XKnight on Mar 18, 2017 4:38:20 GMT
so, I've now seen vids where they show the male model who default Scott Ryder is supposed to be based on. and default Scott does look like said model. but then that just begs the question, what the heck did Bioware do to default Sara? She looks nothing like the extremely attractive and beautiful model she's supposed to be based on. I mean......seriously........wth??!! There are a lot of theories. Mostly involving Bioware catering to feminazis and some such, but yeah the default look is not that similar to its model. I like it though, she looks adorable, and her voice acting makes her out to be kind of a nerd, which is awesome. yeah, I'm reading up about those theories now. not sure what to think.......lol. and the current default Sara isn't bad bad. She does have that adorable look to her. but why then did you even hire that super hot model in the 1st place to base Sara off of, but then not really use the likeness. but you kept Scott's real life model's likeness. that does make you go.......hmmmm............
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Post by XKnight on Mar 18, 2017 4:51:06 GMT
I just noticed, too, that the mystery Sara face has a totally different eye color ( brownish ) than current default Sara ( blue ).
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Post by Hier0phant on Mar 18, 2017 5:07:34 GMT
I just noticed, too, that the mystery Sara face has a totally different eye color ( brownish ) than current default Sara ( blue ). I think he created a custom Sara, canceled, and then selected the default Sara setting off a glitch that merged the textures along with the custom Sara's mesh overriding the default's (pay attention to the cheeks, and jaw).
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Post by XKnight on Mar 18, 2017 5:14:27 GMT
I just noticed, too, that the mystery Sara face has a totally different eye color ( brownish ) than current default Sara ( blue ). I think he created a custom Sara, canceled, and then selected the default Sara setting off a glitch that merged the textures along with the custom Sara's mesh overriding the default's (pay attention to the cheeks, and jaw). that's one hell of a glitch......lol. also, I'm noticing other "differences." I've been watching the French version "side by side" with another video of default Sara going through the opening moments. It's weird that the animations are the same. Lexi looks the same. but stuff in the background is different. In the French version, when Sara is sitting down and Lexi is conducting the initial check up ( follow my fingers ) and then the "tone box" tutorial pops up, if you look in the background, you can see that the ceiling lights are blinking red. In the English vid, the ceiling lights are solid blue/white. then when the camera focuses back on Sara, you can see a monitor behind her. In the French version, the screen is blinking. In the English vid, it's solid. also, as the scene progresses, in the French video, you can see sparks and smoke in the background. None of that is in the English vid. this is all so weird........lol.
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Post by Mintty on Mar 18, 2017 5:22:42 GMT
I just noticed, too, that the mystery Sara face has a totally different eye color ( brownish ) than current default Sara ( blue ). Hmm Scott's were originally brown but changed to blue at some point in development; so I guess this is more evidence towards this mystery Sara potentially being an earlier rendition...
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Post by Hier0phant on Mar 18, 2017 5:28:01 GMT
I think he created a custom Sara, canceled, and then selected the default Sara setting off a glitch that merged the textures along with the custom Sara's mesh overriding the default's (pay attention to the cheeks, and jaw). that's one hell of a glitch......lol. also, I'm noticing other "differences." I've been watching the French version "side by side" with another video of default Sara going through the opening moments. It's weird that the animations are the same. Lexi looks the same. but stuff in the background is different. In the French version, when Sara is sitting down and Lexi is conducting the initial check up ( follow my fingers ) and then the "tone box" tutorial pops up, if you look in the background, you can see that the ceiling lights are blinking red. In the English vid, the ceiling lights are solid blue/white. then when the camera focuses back on Sara, you can see a monitor behind her. In the French version, the screen is blinking. In the English vid, it's solid. also, as the scene progresses, in the French video, you can see sparks and smoke in the background. None of that is in the English vid. this is all so weird........lol. I don't even know what to think about this anymore. This has to be a BioWare conspiracy.
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Post by XKnight on Mar 18, 2017 5:31:07 GMT
I've also noticed in the French vid, the dialogue wheel when you first meet Sam is slightly different ( Sam itself looks slightly different, too ). There are only 2 choices. In the English vid, there are 3 choices.
also, after Lexi stands Ryder up and the camera shifts to where Scott's cryo chamber is supposed to be, in the French vid, it's completely gone! You see the 2 scientists standing there, but where the cryo chamber is supposed to be in the English vid is completely not there in the French vid.
when Cora first enters and floats in, in the French vid, there are 3 people standing around in the background in the room behind her. but in the English vid, those 3 are not there - the room behind Cora is empty.
so, I'm really starting to think this French vid is either bugged or it is somehow an older/different build.
but that begs the question, how did that earlier incomplete build make its way to the guys Xbox 1 via early access??
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Post by Frhozen on Mar 18, 2017 5:41:04 GMT
Are these guys just playing the EA Access trial or do they have some sort of review copy? If it's the latter, I guess it's possible that EA France handed out review copies from a different build than the trial (either by mistake or because this is a newer version... which would be weird because the trial version supposedly has the day-one patch included... who knows). EDIT: Okay, reading that last post, it definitely sounds like the version they're playing is older. I guess whoever handed out the French review copies fucked up.
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Post by pixiqui on Mar 18, 2017 5:42:00 GMT
so, I've now seen vids where they show the male model who default Scott Ryder is supposed to be based on. and default Scott does look like said model. but then that just begs the question, what the heck did Bioware do to default Sara? She looks nothing like the extremely attractive and beautiful model she's supposed to be based on. I mean......seriously........wth??!! Honestly I was just wondering this. I dont think it had anything to do with feminism or a sjw agenda like many people think. I have a couple theories for why she looks different from her face model. I was looking at the face model and a recent pic of fem ryder expecting to see major differences in the facial features but they actually look very similar. So i dont think its one thing in particular I think it's a combination of things that went wrong that explains the difference. If you look closely at female ryder's facial features they look spot on with the model but something is still off. (Pics under spoiler) The model Jayde Rossi, in alot of the pictures that people are seeing of her online, she's wearing makeup and on photoshoots (which means there's some photo editing involved) and female ryder as you notice doesn't wear much makeup (which make sense because she's suppose to be a solider so that's pretty rational) however the face model was most likey told not to wear any makeup and pull her hair back when the face scan was taking place so they could get the most accurate view of her facial features and as a girl that wears makeup, it can make the face look a bit different. Male ryder's model obviously doesn't wear makeup so that could somewhat explain some of the difference. Another thing is the art style, as everyone knows by now the eyes look really dead and overall the artstyle is cartoony which adds to the uncanny valley look and lastly compared to the face model fem ryders face is a tad bit puffy for some reason maybe it was to make her look younger? Im not sure why but I do notice it. Alone these things probably wouldn't change her face to much but all those together is probably why femryder looks so different to many people from her face model. The terrible facial animations also don't help. Overall, I think femryder is very attractive but also in a average way. She isn't supermodel gorgeous but im sure with better hair and some makeup she would be. I get how some people dont think she's attractive but you would think she's the ugliest video game character ever the way people make it seem which makes it worse is her facial features are almost exactly like her model so it's twice as insulting. I think if you gave femryder the same hair and makeup as her model she'd probably look just like her. Anyways that's my theory of why she looks so different.
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Post by lynroy on Mar 18, 2017 7:28:47 GMT
I return here every now and then just to look at the Ryders that people post, think that they have been great and it is fun to see them. However I don't really feel like talking or hyping about it because it feels like I would be trolling the thread. The CC is great for me but for those who got the hang of the sculpting in DA:I you miss that version. I had a lot of problems with that so I don't miss the boxes of unsure coordinates. I do miss freckles and the more free options of skincolors but hope we might get them later. I would love to have even more presets but won't hold my breath. If there is someone else who likes making Ryders and sharing pics, and wants to make a new thread would you mind posting a link here. Have looked a little but haven't seen anything like it. I am staying in the spoiler-free thread but I did look around. I like to share fun and pics, but I do not wish to troll the people who usually post here. If I started doing my usual thing here, it just wouldn't feel right. Just trying to find out if anyone else would be interested in a thread like that or if there is one and I missed it. Have a good time, hope things will be added that makes those who are unhappy happier. And thank you for keeping this thread free from spoilers. I didn't see anyone answer this and just in case anyone that swings by this thread wants to know the same thing, there is a thread in Character and Romance section for posting Ryders: bsn.boards.net/thread/3876/share-ryders-good-looking-edition
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