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Post by MrR40 on Oct 14, 2016 20:43:55 GMT
Hmm.. mugshot photo import would make it easier to create a character that resembles one's favourite actor/actress or model though.
I am thinking... John Cena...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 21:47:48 GMT
I would be the best looking male Ryder, if my face was used. Why not both?
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Post by theflyingzamboni on Oct 14, 2016 22:06:39 GMT
I could never understand why people want to import their own face in a game like ME. Like Bioware's romance scenes weren't awkward enough. Some people film their own, uh, romance scenes to watch later too, you know. Seems like there'd be a market.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Oct 14, 2016 22:09:14 GMT
If it came at the cost of losing all facial animation during cutscenes -- no raised eyebrows, no smiles/frowns, no squints, etc. -- would you still want it? I don't think any of those sports games have facial animation.
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Post by Pearl on Oct 14, 2016 22:46:59 GMT
The only appropriate use of face imports like this is Danny DeVito.
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Post by Mir Aven on Oct 14, 2016 23:49:45 GMT
I could never understand why people want to import their own face in a game like ME. Like Bioware's romance scenes weren't awkward enough. Some people film their own, uh, romance scenes to watch later too, you know. Seems like there'd be a market. Well, yes but those are live people. Sex scenes in video games look like a Barbie and Ken dolls trying to hump each other. If Bioware would add face importing from photos then we woud have "sex scenes that look like a Barbie and Ken dolls trying to hump each other while one of them have your face". It would make the whole thing go from funny to creepy.
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Post by Robo on Oct 15, 2016 0:10:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 0:16:47 GMT
Some people film their own, uh, romance scenes to watch later too, you know. Seems like there'd be a market. Well, yes but those are live people. Sex scenes in video games look like a Barbie and Ken dolls trying to hump each other. If Bioware would add face importing from photos then we woud have "sex scenes that look like a Barbie and Ken dolls trying to hump each other while one of them have your face". It would make the whole thing go from funny to creepy. Even putting the Ken and Barbie aspect of the romance scenes aside, there is just no way that a face with as many years on it as mine belongs on the body of a 20's or 30's something soldier. Imagine putting Hackett's head on Shepard's body and watching him court someone much younger still... like Tali... I think it would be totally laughable and completely kill any hope of further immersion in the story.
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Post by theflyingzamboni on Oct 15, 2016 2:56:28 GMT
Some people film their own, uh, romance scenes to watch later too, you know. Seems like there'd be a market. Well, yes but those are live people. Sex scenes in video games look like a Barbie and Ken dolls trying to hump each other. If Bioware would add face importing from photos then we woud have "sex scenes that look like a Barbie and Ken dolls trying to hump each other while one of them have your face". It would make the whole thing go from funny to creepy. I would contest that some live people look just as stiff and awkward when having sex.
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Post by bohemiadrinker on Oct 15, 2016 3:18:30 GMT
Agreed. Why would I want to role-play a character that looks like me when I am with myself 24/7? Takes away one of the reasons I play; to role-play. Because this way I get to be myself IN SPACE!!!1111!
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Post by Mir Aven on Oct 15, 2016 3:20:12 GMT
Well, yes but those are live people. Sex scenes in video games look like a Barbie and Ken dolls trying to hump each other. If Bioware would add face importing from photos then we woud have "sex scenes that look like a Barbie and Ken dolls trying to hump each other while one of them have your face". It would make the whole thing go from funny to creepy. I would contest that some live people look just as stiff and awkward when having sex. Well, I can't argue with that
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Post by Mir Aven on Oct 15, 2016 3:27:16 GMT
Well, yes but those are live people. Sex scenes in video games look like a Barbie and Ken dolls trying to hump each other. If Bioware would add face importing from photos then we woud have "sex scenes that look like a Barbie and Ken dolls trying to hump each other while one of them have your face". It would make the whole thing go from funny to creepy. Even putting the Ken and Barbie aspect of the romance scenes aside, there is just no way that a face with as many years on it as mine belongs on the body of a 20's or 30's something soldier. Imagine putting Hackett's head on Shepard's body and watching him court someone much younger still... like Tali... I think it would be totally laughable and completely kill any hope of further immersion in the story. I admit that I didn't even think that far. It makes the whole thing even stranger. Let's just hope that none of the RPG's implement the face import from photo anytime soon.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Oct 15, 2016 4:28:47 GMT
I doubt it but it would be really fun to se the videos of the abominations such a system would spawn. Yes, but on the other hand, it would probably mess up my features enough that I'd look better than normal I wouldn't expect to see this in MEA. I certainly wouldn't use it, goodness, the idea of my face being on a character in game... its bad enough walking past mirrors. Yeah, no thanks. I'm with you It might be fun, just to see, but definitely weird to play with. I could never understand why people want to import their own face in a game like ME. Like Bioware's romance scenes weren't awkward enough. Well, normally I wouldn't, but hey, all the characters including a potential romance are already going to call me by my first name ingame anyway, so why not just go all the way with the awkwardness and have my face, too? There is no way that won't be awkward for me Oh, that's going to be really weird either way... I don't really want to import a face, but I would love to see the character creator in action. Mmgh, I wish they'd release a demo as a promo. Just making a character I wouldn't want to import myself, but if the system was actually good, it would be interesting to import someone else, for lulz. Like a celebrity, or a friend, or another character from something Anyway, I agree, they should release a standalone CC before launch like they did for DA:O. I really hope it's better than DA:I's hair-wise...
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Post by theflyingzamboni on Oct 15, 2016 6:58:58 GMT
I wouldn't want to import myself, but if the system was actually good, it would be interesting to import someone else, for lulz. Like a celebrity, or a friend, or another character from something Anyway, I agree, they should release a standalone CC before launch like they did for DA:O. I really hope it's better than DA:I's hair-wise... Please please please. I hate having to go through intro shenanigans to get to CC, and being unable to save custom faces so I don't have to recreate it from scratch when I inevitably realize in game that I need to tweak the jaw and nose a few notches.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 8:30:23 GMT
I have to ask, have you tried Simon's homebrew yet?
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Post by Shinrai on Oct 15, 2016 10:15:46 GMT
Wasn't the face of maleRyder in the last gameplay footage scanned, too? I think Biofan said this in one of his videos that his face was a scan of the CGI actor - please correct me if I'm wrong and understood that the wrong way. I don't know if that meant face scanning mechanic ingame or just use for the footage only.
For this thread: If Bioware found a way to incorparate this feature nicely and without technical bugs - why not? I wouldn't use my face though, that would be too much selfinsert for me. But I would use some beautiful facemodel to have a beautiful femRyder in the end.
The danger I sense here is that you use a photo of someone who doesn't want or know that. Like googling a face, think "Hey, he/she looks nice for my Ryder." You don't mean it bad at that moment. But if he/she'll end up in a public thread or other public room (like a Let's play on youtube or twitch) as a game protag, sees that and is not amused about it he/she could end it in a lawsuit. For EA, BW or in the end the player himself/herself. Edit: worst case scenario here. How will you control personal use of something like that? Through regulations?
So I'd rather play it safe and use a nicely done CC with a good & solid amount of eye/hair and slideroptions.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 11:42:26 GMT
Wasn't the face of maleRyder in the last gameplay footage scanned, too? I think Biofan said this in one of his videos that his face was a scan of the CGI actor - please correct me if I'm wrong and understood that the wrong way. I don't know if that meant face scanning mechanic ingame or just use for the footage only. For this thread: If Bioware found a way to incorparate this feature nicely and without technical bugs - why not? I wouldn't use my face though, that would be too much selfinsert for me. But I would use some beautiful facemodel to have a beautiful femRyder in the end. The danger I sense here is that you use a photo of someone who doesn't want or know that. Like googling a face, think "Hey, he/she looks nice for my Ryder." You don't mean it bad at that moment. But if he/she'll end up in a public thread or other public room (like a Let's play on youtube or twitch) as a game protag, sees that and is not amused about it he/she could end it in a lawsuit. For EA, BW or in the end the player himself/herself. Edit: worst case scenario here. How will you control personal use of something like that? Through regulations? So I'd rather play it safe and use a nicely done CC with a good & solid amount of eye/hair and slideroptions. People wanting to use celebrity faces is, I would think, one reason why the game should be reluctant to put it in. When a game uses a scanned face model for a PC (like they did by using Vanderloo for Shepard), they pay that person for using their face. Players, naturally, would not be willing to pay whatever celebrity for using their face in the game... and then there's the issue of people intentionally distorting the face (something the celebrity might find objectionable).... and then showing the game all over YouTube. It's part of the reason why Bioware designed their CC such to make it impossible to create a PC that looked like default Shepard and did not allow players to alter things about the default face.
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Post by Shinrai on Oct 15, 2016 11:55:21 GMT
Wasn't the face of maleRyder in the last gameplay footage scanned, too? I think Biofan said this in one of his videos that his face was a scan of the CGI actor - please correct me if I'm wrong and understood that the wrong way. I don't know if that meant face scanning mechanic ingame or just use for the footage only. For this thread: If Bioware found a way to incorparate this feature nicely and without technical bugs - why not? I wouldn't use my face though, that would be too much selfinsert for me. But I would use some beautiful facemodel to have a beautiful femRyder in the end. The danger I sense here is that you use a photo of someone who doesn't want or know that. Like googling a face, think "Hey, he/she looks nice for my Ryder." You don't mean it bad at that moment. But if he/she'll end up in a public thread or other public room (like a Let's play on youtube or twitch) as a game protag, sees that and is not amused about it he/she could end it in a lawsuit. For EA, BW or in the end the player himself/herself. Edit: worst case scenario here. How will you control personal use of something like that? Through regulations? So I'd rather play it safe and use a nicely done CC with a good & solid amount of eye/hair and slideroptions. People wanting to use celebrity faces is, I would think, one reason why the game should be reluctant to put it in. When a game uses a scanned face model for a PC (like they did by using Vanderloo for Shepard), they pay that person for using their face. Players, naturally, would not be willing to pay whatever celebrity for using their face in the game... and then there's the issue of people intentionally distorting the face (something the celebrity might find objectionable).... and then showing the game all over YouTube. It's part of the reason why Bioware designed their CC such to make it impossible to create a PC that looked like default Shepard and did not allow players to alter things about the default face. Yeah, I think the same. That's why I don't think they will integrate face scanning into the game. But I wouldn't mind the opportunity in a game, though. That's all I wanted to say. I'm aware about the background of CCs and I am happy that they are there. Thanks for your insight, explanation & opinion I didn't know the system behind default CC & the use of other stuff for actual players because I'm not familiar with laws in the gaming industrie etc. I can just assume a few things .
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Post by theflyingzamboni on Oct 15, 2016 17:11:49 GMT
I have to ask, have you tried Simon's homebrew yet? Thompson's Tar? Yeah I've tried it.
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Post by goishen on Oct 15, 2016 17:44:05 GMT
I might use it, but only for a game, since I only tend to play through ME as a guy once or twice anyway. As far as females go,
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Post by Jaal Ama Darav (Kierro) on Oct 15, 2016 20:00:48 GMT
Hm, putting your face on a companion and have that companion be a romance option... That takes "Go f--- yourself!" to a whole new level.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Oct 15, 2016 21:53:57 GMT
Wasn't the face of maleRyder in the last gameplay footage scanned, too? I think Biofan said this in one of his videos that his face was a scan of the CGI actor - please correct me if I'm wrong and understood that the wrong way. I don't know if that meant face scanning mechanic ingame or just use for the footage only. So I'd rather play it safe and use a nicely done CC with a good & solid amount of eye/hair and slideroptions. I doubt Male Ryder's face was scanned, simply because the quality of it wasn't that great. Sheploo looked better, quality-wise. Honestly, it was disappointing considering it was in a tech demo! Female Ryder looks better so far for some reason. Male Ryder definitely looked like he was made in the CC, which has been what Bioware has been going with lately for presets. I think that's good just because I hate getting locked out of features the presets have. I agree, I'd rather they devote more resources into the CC itself than do some gimmick like that. Some areas of the CC desperately need it, after all People wanting to use celebrity faces is, I would think, one reason why the game should be reluctant to put it in. When a game uses a scanned face model for a PC (like they did by using Vanderloo for Shepard), they pay that person for using their face. Players, naturally, would not be willing to pay whatever celebrity for using their face in the game... and then there's the issue of people intentionally distorting the face (something the celebrity might find objectionable).... and then showing the game all over YouTube. It's part of the reason why Bioware designed their CC such to make it impossible to create a PC that looked like default Shepard and did not allow players to alter things about the default face.We also couldn't edit (ME3) default Femshep either, nor male or female Hawke, none of whom used face-models
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 22:29:48 GMT
Wasn't the face of maleRyder in the last gameplay footage scanned, too? I think Biofan said this in one of his videos that his face was a scan of the CGI actor - please correct me if I'm wrong and understood that the wrong way. I don't know if that meant face scanning mechanic ingame or just use for the footage only. So I'd rather play it safe and use a nicely done CC with a good & solid amount of eye/hair and slideroptions. I doubt Male Ryder's face was scanned, simply because the quality of it wasn't that great. Sheploo looked better, quality-wise. Honestly, it was disappointing considering it was in a tech demo! Female Ryder looks better so far for some reason. Male Ryder definitely looked like he was made in the CC, which has been what Bioware has been going with lately for presets. I think that's good just because I hate getting locked out of features the presets have. I agree, I'd rather they devote more resources into the CC itself than do some gimmick like that. Some areas of the CC desperately need it, after all People wanting to use celebrity faces is, I would think, one reason why the game should be reluctant to put it in. When a game uses a scanned face model for a PC (like they did by using Vanderloo for Shepard), they pay that person for using their face. Players, naturally, would not be willing to pay whatever celebrity for using their face in the game... and then there's the issue of people intentionally distorting the face (something the celebrity might find objectionable).... and then showing the game all over YouTube. It's part of the reason why Bioware designed their CC such to make it impossible to create a PC that looked like default Shepard and did not allow players to alter things about the default face.We also couldn't edit (ME3) default Femshep either, nor male or female Hawke, none of whom used face-models I'm guessing that FemShep was not editable to avoid creating a discrepancy between the two. You could, however, use the CC to make a FemShep that looked very similar to the default one; whereas, you could not create an even remotely similar MaleShep to the default (Vanderloo) face. I don't play DA, so I can't speak to what was done there.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2016 0:17:40 GMT
If I were to import my face? I have no idea how many times I would have restart the game and make myself a new face. One that suits the character I'm playing. Using my face, just sounds silly.
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