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Merry★* 。 • ˚ ˚ ˛ ˚ ˛ ••。★ Christmas★ 。* 。° 。 ° ˛˚˛ * _Π_____*。*˚˚ ˛ •˛•˚ */______/~\。˚ ˚ ˛˚ ˛ •˛• ˚ | 田田 |門| ˚And a happy new year! Eurogamer had a phone conversation with Creative Director Mac Walters and Producer Fabrice Condominas in Edmonton. The conversation revealed a bit more (story wise). The article link is posted below. I don't see this as a spoiler since it's in a game article. However, for the sensitive ones: May be Spoilers AheadApparently, the Dec 1 trailer is just a tease of what happens to the different ARKs. This is central to the story of how things failed to go as planned upon arrival... The Nexus Uprising and Kelly Sloane becoming a pirate leader as an example. The Kadara Outpost was setup by the various MW races. Note: We can also build them as long as we meet certain criteria.
Ryder talks to SAM Fabrice Condominas: "... SAM is ultimately not a living being - its more of an AI or robot. But it's way broader than EDI - the relationship is way different. SAM handles a number of things as well as your vessel. It is connected to you permanently and was connected to - and knew - your father, Alec. There's a very specific relationship there. It's more of a partner than EDI was - you're way closer emotionally to SAM."
Facial Animations and lip-syncing Fabrice Condominas: "We are absolutely working on it. As was mentioned in the tweets it's actually something that comes last in the polishing stage. We've been using full facial capture for the first time to record the actor's performance and it's also the first time for BioWare [using this technique] working in Frostbite - I think we're beginning to push that fairly far. We're actively working on it and it's the last thing to be polished before we do a manual pass and really, really tweak all those movements because we first wanted to make sure the dialogue is final and settled. "
Game Release in spring 2017 Fabrice Condominas: "There's absolutely no reason to be worried. BioWare is all about quality and believe me - the team is extremely aware of how fast that is coming [laughs]. But we're focusing on that - that's our objective...."
About the Books Mac Walters: "The first novel which comes out is more about setting up the backstory of certain factors at the point when Ryder arrives in the galaxy..."
Mac Walters: "So, when we first announced our partnership with Titan the idea was I'd do a fourth book which would be a bridge to the movie - which is still something that's out there and we're still talking about. But when I became creative director [on Andromeda] that became priority, I guess [laughs]. And with the state of where the movie was.."
Cut Squadmate and Future DLC Mates Mac Walters: "You know game development is a constant series of decisions - there's always going to be some scope reductions. Because we decided to do loyalty missions that meant every squad member had their own special mission plus a significant amount of relationship dialogue. Ultimately, the only reason we chose to cut was because of that..."
Mac Walters: ".. Part of it too was we're playing up the Tempest crew members much more and we have a salarian on the crew. We put a lot of investment in that character..."
Mac Walters: "...I think there's a lot of different ways we could introduce new characters like that, new squadmates, whether they are one-offs for a mission... But I think Andromeda is more of a persistent experience, more of an open world than we've done before. Even once the critical path story, the main narrative, is done there's still a lot to accomplish. It's a game of exploration so if we wanted to create a space for a new follower we can do it...."
Future MW races in Andromeda Mac Walters: "We have a plan, I can tell you that much. We have a whole backstory around how it is possible any major species you could have seen in the Milky Way could one day be a part of the Andromeda adventure..."
About the Nexus Mac Walters: "That area is more for - if you meet a race in Andromeda which is not hostile - introducing them to the cultures of the Milky Way. So I would say it would represent the species that are in the game and then, down the road, if other species are added, it will expand...."
Fabrice Condominas: "The exploration aspect of the game is not only about geography - cultural exploration is key to the game. That notion of exploring the anthropologies and cultural and linguist sides - that's why that area is there."
Article link: www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-12-09-mass-effect-andromeda-interview
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Post by RageUnderFire on Dec 28, 2016 16:24:55 GMT
Judging from how he answered the question we'll have at least 7 sidekicks.
These 6 are for sure money.
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No more than 8 imo since they invested so much into fleshing each out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 18:39:04 GMT
I am not reading that 7 squaddies seem likely from this. If anything, I think 6 sounds more and more likely.
We know that the leak indicated 7 and we know for sure that they cut one somewhere along the way. It could be that they started with 8 and cut to 7 prior to the leak. But that was a long time ago. I think it's more likely that they planned 7 and then made the cut to 6 (with the rumored synthetic squaddie getting the axe for being too similar to Legion and/or EDI), with the rationale being that they are beefing up the NPCs (like the Salarian Pilot, which is awesome because I'm stoked about that guy/gal for sure) to make sure that we still have a nice amount of character content. Quality over quantity, which I totally support.
So I think we've seen all of the MWG species squaddies (2 humans, 1 asari, 1 krogran, & 1 turian) and our final spot will be an Andromedan.
But, again, I've been totally wrong before. I would have lost my house on the bet that Cullen was a companion in DA:I.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 18:58:39 GMT
I am not reading that 7 squaddies seem likely from this. If anything, I think 6 sounds more and more likely. We know that the leak indicated 7 and we know for sure that they cut one somewhere along the way. It could be that they started with 8 and cut to 7 prior to the leak. But that was a long time ago. I think it's more likely that they planned 7 and then made the cut to 6 (with the rumored synthetic squaddie getting the axe for being too similar to Legion and/or EDI), with the rationale being that they are beefing up the NPCs (like the Salarian Pilot, which is awesome because I'm stoked about that guy/gal for sure) to make sure that we still have a nice amount of character content. Quality over quantity, which I totally support. So I think we've seen all of the MWG species squaddies (2 humans, 1 asari, 1 krogran, & 1 turian) and our final spot will be an Andromedan. But, again, I've been totally wrong before. I would have lost my house on the bet that Cullen was a companion in DA:I. I wonder if SAM might be the cut squadmate. That actually wouldn't be too bad, since he still exists in the game in a significant way. He just wouldn't have a robot body that goes on missions.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 19:01:11 GMT
I was thinking the same thing, Han. And that could explain why they keep struggling to explain SAM. If he was originally a squaddie and they had dialogue for him on quests, they might have tried to come up with a way to keep that dialogue in use without bringing him physically with you -- hence the new quasi-AI/sort of VI thing that he's got going.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Dec 28, 2016 19:26:21 GMT
Apparently, the Dec 1 trailer is just a tease of what happens to the different ARKs. This is central to the story of how things failed to go as planned upon arrival... The Nexus Uprising and Kelly Sloane becoming a pirate leader as an example. The Kadara Outpost was setup by the various MW races. Note: We can also build them as long as we meet certain criteria.
So... is this implying multiple Arks are attacked/disabled? I doubt any get destroyed outright since that would basically erase that species from the narrative, as well as the info about meeting other Pathfinders on the Nexus. We can build what? Outposts? I'm not sure what to make of this. Is that just the Bioware dev being anti-synthetic? If SAM isn't a full AI - sapient - why are we "way closer emotionally to SAM"? Are we going to be friends with VIs now? And romance them, because BSN? Either it's a VI and not really a living being, or it's an AI and is a living being, so get your lore straight, Bioware. Yeah, it's not really alive, but you'll be so emotionally attached to it!Wait, they're using mocap? Then why did we see the devs manually setting Peebee's expression in that E3 video? Have they changed direction, or are they going to touch up the actors' expressions? If they are using mocap, why did Ryder have no upper-facial-expressions? And how is that going to work for different headmorphs? Stretching the default to other faces didn't work out so well in ME3, but I thought the expressions were good in DA:I even with no mocap, so... I don't know what to expect. First they said the reason they cut a squadmate was because they felt too much like one (or more?) from the original trilogy. Now apparently the "only" reason is because of resources. Come on, which is it? Does this mean that after getting rid of squadmate DLC, they're... thinking of reintroducing squadmate DLC? Mixed feelings about that. Main companions, anyway; we often get temporary ones for a single DLC. So I think we've seen all of the MWG species squaddies (2 humans, 1 asari, 1 krogran, & 1 turian) and our final spot will be an Andromedan. But, again, I've been totally wrong before. I would have lost my house on the bet that Cullen was a companion in DA:I.Oh, that would have been great... Even if we had to replace a current squadmate with him, I can think of a few I'd axe We only got to take him on one mission depending on your playthrough...
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Post by midnightwolf on Dec 28, 2016 19:29:58 GMT
Wait.......Does this mean that they've cut a squad mate out, so they can charge us extra like they did with Javik? Or am I reading this wrong?
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Post by colfoley on Dec 28, 2016 19:31:14 GMT
Wait.......Does this mean that they've cut a squad mate out, so they can charge us extra like they did with Javik? Or am I reading this wrong? you're reading this wrong.
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Post by midnightwolf on Dec 28, 2016 19:34:49 GMT
Wait.......Does this mean that they've cut a squad mate out, so they can charge us extra like they did with Javik? Or am I reading this wrong? you're reading this wrong. Oh good. I need to not read when I've had a couple of Baileys in future. Still.....we should keep such thoughts in mind, since this is Ea 😊
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Post by Sartoz on Dec 28, 2016 19:56:30 GMT
Judging from how he answered the question we'll have at least 7 sidekicks. These 6 are for sure money. Andromlien Drack Krogan Turian Nerd Male Human Cora PeeWee No more than 8 imo since they invested so much into fleshing each out. Merry★* 。 • ˚ ˚ ˛ ˚ ˛ • •。★Christmas★ 。* 。 ° 。 ° ˛˚˛ * _Π_____*。*˚ ˚ ˛ •˛•˚ */______/~\。˚ ˚ ˛ ˚ ˛ •˛• ˚ | 田田 |門| ˚And a happy new year!
Well, I doubt we will have a Salarian squad member... no, that's not quite right. Sam is our Salarian squad member, albeit, located in the Tempest. So, we have our Salarian, Turian, Asari and Krogan + two humans = 6. I call we will have 2 x Andromedans.
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Post by Sartoz on Dec 28, 2016 19:58:13 GMT
Wait.......Does this mean that they've cut a squad mate out, so they can charge us extra like they did with Javik? Or am I reading this wrong? Merry★* 。 • ˚ ˚ ˛ ˚ ˛ • •。★Christmas★ 。* 。 ° 。 ° ˛˚˛ * _Π_____*。*˚ ˚ ˛ •˛•˚ */______/~\。˚ ˚ ˛ ˚ ˛ •˛• ˚ | 田田 |門| ˚And a happy new year!
More likely the game design allows for easy additions.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 28, 2016 20:09:54 GMT
you're reading this wrong. Oh good. I need to not read when I've had a couple of Baileys in future. Still.....we should keep such thoughts in mind, since this is Ea 😊 At the worse the character might be revived in story dlc but not as a companion.
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Post by midnightwolf on Dec 28, 2016 20:25:37 GMT
Oh good. I need to not read when I've had a couple of Baileys in future. Still.....we should keep such thoughts in mind, since this is Ea 😊 At the worse the character might be revived in story dlc but not as a companion. Hmm......I think I could live with that and be semi-happy about it.
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Dec 28, 2016 20:46:51 GMT
About the Books Mac Walters: "The first novel which comes out is more about setting up the backstory of certain factors at the point when Ryder arrives in the galaxy..."
Mac Walters: "So, when we first announced our partnership with Titan the idea was I'd do a fourth book which would be a bridge to the movie - which is still something that's out there and we're still talking about. But when I became creative director [on Andromeda] that became priority, I guess [laughs]. And with the state of where the movie was.."
Holy Orlaisian cheese!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 20:57:18 GMT
I'm not sure what to make of this. Is that just the Bioware dev being anti-synthetic? If SAM isn't a full AI - sapient - why are we "way closer emotionally to SAM"? Are we going to be friends with VIs now? And romance them, because BSN? Either it's a VI and not really a living being, or it's an AI and is a living being, so get your lore straight, Bioware. Yeah, it's not really alive, but you'll be so emotionally attached to it!I think they're just being vague to try and not reveal too much about the character. In the little bits they've released about the character so far however, it sounds like SAM is going to be a full AI.
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Post by themikefest on Dec 28, 2016 21:04:05 GMT
I gave you like for calling the asari that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 21:37:04 GMT
Judging from how he answered the question we'll have at least 7 sidekicks. These 6 are for sure money. Andromlien Drack Krogan Turian Nerd Male Human Cora PeeWee No more than 8 imo since they invested so much into fleshing each out. Merry★* 。 • ˚ ˚ ˛ ˚ ˛ • •。★Christmas★ 。* 。 ° 。 ° ˛˚˛ * _Π_____*。*˚ ˚ ˛ •˛•˚ */______/~\。˚ ˚ ˛ ˚ ˛ •˛• ˚ | 田田 |門| ˚And a happy new year!
Well, I doubt we will have a Salarian squad member... no, that's not quite right. Sam is our Salarian squad member, albeit, located in the Tempest. So, we have our Salarian, Turian, Asari and Krogan + two humans = 6. I call we will have 2 x Andromedans. SAM is a VI (or AI). That's already been confirmed. He's not a salarian.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Dec 29, 2016 0:41:12 GMT
So Uhm...are we going back to a "AIs are not alive" mindset? If she was a VI like Avina then sure.
But SAM is broader than EDI thus she cannot be just a VI....so uhm...what is SAM?
Or is Bioware trying THAT hard to distance themself from ME3.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 29, 2016 0:44:54 GMT
So Uhm...are we going back to a "AIs are not alive" mindset? If she was a VI like Avina then sure. But SAM is broader than EDI thus she cannot be just a VI....so uhm...what is SAM? Or is Bioware trying THAT hard to distance themself from ME3. I think its much more likely that Sam is a VI, maybe an advanced VI, but they have been with Ryder since Ryder was born hence Ryder has a special relationship with them and looks to them as a guiding figure. Hence their relationship is 'broader' even when EDIs programming is more so. Like Tony Stark and Jarvis. Jarvis is not a true AI, not even close, yet Tony views him as a very close companion.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Dec 29, 2016 0:53:18 GMT
So Uhm...are we going back to a "AIs are not alive" mindset? If she was a VI like Avina then sure. But SAM is broader than EDI thus she cannot be just a VI....so uhm...what is SAM? Or is Bioware trying THAT hard to distance themself from ME3. I think its much more likely that Sam is a VI, maybe an advanced VI, but they have been with Ryder since Ryder was born hence Ryder has a special relationship with them and looks to them as a guiding figure. Hence their relationship is 'broader' even when EDIs programming is more so. Like Tony Stark and Jarvis. Jarvis is not a true AI, not even close, yet Tony views him as a very close companion. Uhm...in one of his incarnations Jarvis is as close to an AI as a software can be but I get it Then again Sam COULD be a Geth-like VI. A gestalt VI intellect that approximates AI level of awareness. It would be feasible given the amounts of tasks she has to take on and as such the need to be "more than a single program"
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Post by colfoley on Dec 29, 2016 0:56:51 GMT
I think its much more likely that Sam is a VI, maybe an advanced VI, but they have been with Ryder since Ryder was born hence Ryder has a special relationship with them and looks to them as a guiding figure. Hence their relationship is 'broader' even when EDIs programming is more so. Like Tony Stark and Jarvis. Jarvis is not a true AI, not even close, yet Tony views him as a very close companion. Uhm...in one of his incarnations Jarvis is as close to an AI as a software can be but I get it Then again Sam COULD be a Geth-like VI. A gestalt VI intellect that approximates AI level of awareness. It would be feasible given the amounts of tasks she has to take on and as such the need to be "more than a single program" Indeed. But I mean that Jarvis, however AI he is like is not a 'true' AI. If Age of Ultron was Mass Effect Jarvis would be at best a low level Geth and Ultron would be the true AI.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Dec 29, 2016 1:04:39 GMT
Uhm...in one of his incarnations Jarvis is as close to an AI as a software can be but I get it Then again Sam COULD be a Geth-like VI. A gestalt VI intellect that approximates AI level of awareness. It would be feasible given the amounts of tasks she has to take on and as such the need to be "more than a single program" Indeed. But I mean that Jarvis, however AI he is like is not a 'true' AI. If Age of Ultron was Mass Effect Jarvis would be at best a low level Geth and Ultron would be the true AI. and I meant that in one of the comic book storylines Jarvis is the digitized intelligence of Tony's dead butler...
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Post by colfoley on Dec 29, 2016 1:07:06 GMT
Indeed. But I mean that Jarvis, however AI he is like is not a 'true' AI. If Age of Ultron was Mass Effect Jarvis would be at best a low level Geth and Ultron would be the true AI. and I meant that in one of the comic book storylines Jarvis is the digitized intelligence of Tony's dead butler... ...crap. In that case check mate, quite, quite.
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Post by derrame on Dec 29, 2016 1:08:28 GMT
will there be Squadmates DLc's?
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Dec 29, 2016 1:12:52 GMT
and I meant that in one of the comic book storylines Jarvis is the digitized intelligence of Tony's dead butler... ...crap. In that case check mate, quite, quite. Story twist SAM is the digitized intelligence of Ryder's dead mom
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